Was My DM Right To Force Romance Between DMPC & My Character? | Narrated D&D Story

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  • I’m so happy that the DMPC got murdered even after trying to cheat their way to some ridiculous roleplaying victory. Remember your character, your choices. Don’t let a DM control your character.
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  • @RagnarokAvatar
    @RagnarokAvatar Рік тому +119

    This DM didn't want to play D&D, she wanted to write a fanfic.

    • @GM-lx7ji
      @GM-lx7ji Рік тому +9

      It always surprises me how many DMs do these kind of things.

    • @craigtucker1290
      @craigtucker1290 Рік тому +3

      And as usual with fanfic, it is just terrible.

    • @Metalisalearning77
      @Metalisalearning77 Рік тому +1

      Didn't even get past the prologue either

    • @RagnarokAvatar
      @RagnarokAvatar 7 місяців тому

      Want to know what's really sad? On the reddit page of this story, the OP said that this incident turned him off of D&D. Minmaxer found herself a new group and even invited OP but said no, it's sad that Minmaxer was the only one in this story to have a happy ending. . .

  • @r1l426
    @r1l426 Рік тому +75

    The paladin stopping the dmpc's speech with polearm master/sentinel was so funny.

    • @Dramoklos
      @Dramoklos Рік тому +13

      literally got bonked by hornyjail bat

    • @TexMeta
      @TexMeta Рік тому +6

      I love that min/maxer so much. Sounds like a great player, especially as they went to save the OP from the DMPC.

  • @confectortyrannis275
    @confectortyrannis275 Рік тому +59

    Forced romance of any kind is against consent. Period. I don't care what your story is, I don't care what is going on. I say no, I mean fuckin no, and push this at your peril.
    No excuses.

    • @the_multus
      @the_multus Рік тому +7

      you can make forced romance work in a darker campaign, but the player (unlike their char) still should be on board

  • @thurmanstevenson5692
    @thurmanstevenson5692 Рік тому +49

    Hope you and min/maxer found a good table to go to

  • @nocount7517
    @nocount7517 Рік тому +24

    Absolutely not! As others have said, this DM didn't want to play a game, she wanted to write a fanfic with her Gary Stu OC.

  • @Isredel
    @Isredel Рік тому +11

    "Force"
    and
    "Romance"
    is an oxymoron. A Romance CAN'T be forced. A Romance has to involve mutual consent otherwise it's just harassment or worse.

  • @Modhunter42
    @Modhunter42 Рік тому +14

    When 'that guy' is the female DM.
    Take the min/max'er with you and RUN.

    • @Metalisalearning77
      @Metalisalearning77 11 місяців тому

      Well the Min Maxer here was "This Guy" as a lady & what an MVP she was

  • @nathanielgrindstaff4909
    @nathanielgrindstaff4909 Рік тому +4

    What a terrible DM. I was worried this story wouldn't have a happy ending for the players. Glad they took down that awful DMPC.

  • @WolfHunter732
    @WolfHunter732 Рік тому +20

    The moment DMPC is 2 levels higher then party that threw the first of many red flags.

    • @LuckoDaStars
      @LuckoDaStars Рік тому +1

      When I do a session and I have a dmpc, I always make sure that the other players take the final charge and only interfere if things are not going in their favor. I prefer to to guide my players, not hold their hand and coddle

    • @konradgoscicki6649
      @konradgoscicki6649 Рік тому

      I did something like that once. At the very first session my players were introduced to my dmpc. The leader of their group, a legendary warrior, wise mentor, and tactical genius.
      She died at the end of the same session. And yes, it was scripted.

  • @Raging_Duck
    @Raging_Duck Рік тому +20

    Is there main character syndrome version for DMs? Because this is how it sounds (and it is nightmare) - DMs that are there just to tell their story and you/we are all just side characters

  • @Eantrin
    @Eantrin Рік тому +4

    “Bet someone wishes DM PC was here.” Hits the sesame notes as “where’s poochie?”

  • @kryskiller666
    @kryskiller666 Рік тому +3

    The only time I've seen forced romance work was precisely when the whole point WAS that it was forced. One of the PCs being mind-controlled for a day, marrying to someone he cared nothing for and once he woke up, was told breaking his wife's feelings would kill her, all caused by a trickster God that was having a laugh.
    Like 20 sessions later, the dude learns that not only the curse was fake as shit, his 'wife' was told the exact same thing and none of them felt ANYTHING from the start. By the end, that PC and the NPC did become best friends from the stupid experience.

  • @ringilgondolin7490
    @ringilgondolin7490 Рік тому +5

    That DM was despicable, and there are very few other ways of putting it.

  • @ArcaneSorceror
    @ArcaneSorceror Рік тому +8

    Don't even need to watch the video. No, your DM isn't right to force a relationship.
    There are red flags of behaviour, this is the toxic partner telling you to accept their toxic behaviour without ANY gaslighting

  • @Ozarka0
    @Ozarka0 Рік тому +5

    Oh I thought I heard this story before! One of my favorites I ever listened to. I normally call bullshit on Reddit stories, but sometimes they're too entertaining for me to care.
    Plus, a very *tiny* sliver of respect towards the that lady DM who actually let her damn rogue get killed. Alone, and unloved.
    Edit: Just wanted to do a quick shout out for this art. Like, really , it's *really* good.

    • @Metalisalearning77
      @Metalisalearning77 Рік тому +1

      Though it would make a very interesting Yandere story

    • @Ozarka0
      @Ozarka0 Рік тому

      @@Metalisalearning77 right!?

    • @Metalisalearning77
      @Metalisalearning77 Рік тому

      Or perhaps a scenario (NPCs) for the players to unravel & remedy/escalate to various or hilarious results

    • @chriscasas5009
      @chriscasas5009 Рік тому

      Technically, she didn't "let" the rogue get killed. There was no way to lie to the party about his stats since she made them so public

  • @Wbfuhn
    @Wbfuhn Рік тому +11

    Just based on the title, no. No person should be forced into a relationship between characters. It has to be agreed on.

  • @FayeBloodPlays
    @FayeBloodPlays Рік тому +6

    That DM is sickening. I wish Him and Min/Maxer should have said that if the DM just wanted to rail road them they don't want to continue playing in their campaign. That would at least give the DM a chance to change things while setting a clear boundary

  • @GreaterGrievobeast55
    @GreaterGrievobeast55 Рік тому +25

    *No* i've been in two Roleplays were a romance was more or less forced on my character and it sucks! I don't care what story goal it's meant to achieve, it's never worth the expense of the another players comfort. Yirbel Lives yeah yeah...

    • @lokitakahashi3042
      @lokitakahashi3042 Рік тому +1

      whoops. i slipped and my sword went through there chest. rolling for coup de grace😜

    • @derrikthegreat4133
      @derrikthegreat4133 Рік тому

      Ive seen this many times but have no idea what it means, what is "yirbel lives" about?

  • @WaveShock007
    @WaveShock007 Рік тому +16

    No. The Dm is wrong on so many levels. They are violating OP's Consent

  • @CoffeeTaku
    @CoffeeTaku Рік тому +25

    This is both a horror story and a glory story lmao

  • @Metalisalearning77
    @Metalisalearning77 Рік тому +3

    I hate to declare this but this implied 'ship' was worse than Twilight!!
    & Twilight was bad enough!?
    & no doubt the Min/Maxer was the MVP in that session!

  • @jacksparrowismydaddy
    @jacksparrowismydaddy Рік тому +1

    I would just leave, say "well you can just obviously rp with out me. you don't need me here." take my character and go.

  • @craigtucker1290
    @craigtucker1290 Рік тому +3

    Yes, the DM was wrong.
    The DM cannot take away player agency, tell a player how to run their character, or force a character's player to do or feel anything. This was just a bad, and hopefully, inexperienced DM.

  • @yoyoboy87
    @yoyoboy87 Рік тому +2

    So I got a dmpc story that also ends in the dmpc dying.
    Short version: It was a one on one session with this insane dm. My arcane archer and his dmpc are up against some half dragons. Being an air genasai, I just float up out of reach and pick them off with arrows. The dmpc however gets roasted by like five breath weapon attacks from each half dragon and eventually dies. When it was over, I asked him how they got so many breath weapons and he said it’s in the stat block. He then showed it to me and I pointed out the recharge mechanic. He looked at me like I grew a second head as I explained how it worked. After that he decided to be petty and give me nothing for the session and I think that was the last time I ever played with him.
    He was a real piece of work.

  • @thibni_
    @thibni_ Рік тому +2

    Ooooh uuggghhhhhh....
    Nope, I would have got up and quit that game once I noticed the while DMPC.....

  • @Keiji555
    @Keiji555 2 дні тому

    Currently in an RP, and some NPCs sometimes helps us so much, that he's had to put some on the bus, so that we don't rely too much on those characters.
    They still talk, but it's far more complicated, and it would be hard to explain the friendship to others.
    It's fine for characters to rp with NPCs and try to get info out of them, but you've got to be careful if you bring powerful allies a bit too much, cause at times, even the DM doesn't want to rely too much on him. We've done that, and he's had to be creative..

  • @legomaniac213
    @legomaniac213 Рік тому +5

    If you ever need to add a DMPC to a game, then their role should *ALWAYS* be one that supports the PCs. The players as a whole are the main characters, never the DMPC.

    • @LiMe251
      @LiMe251 Рік тому +1

      Good times to have a DMPC [my opinion]
      #1: When you can't get a good amount of players
      #2: You realize your players aren't strong enough to take on a plot required fight and need a small push
      The End [imo]

    • @Metalisalearning77
      @Metalisalearning77 Рік тому +1

      Currently playing my 2nd game as a player, planning to be a DM next year...
      Any tips on how to do good DMPCs?

    • @LiMe251
      @LiMe251 Рік тому +2

      @@Metalisalearning77 try to keep 'em on the same level as the players, don't overshadow the players, and make sure your players are on board.

    • @Metalisalearning77
      @Metalisalearning77 Рік тому +1

      ​@@LiMe251OK.... could they (with Player's permission) be part of their character background? Or would that be pushing it?

    • @LiMe251
      @LiMe251 Рік тому +1

      @@Metalisalearning77 that's something you'd have to discuss with the individual player

  • @jacksparrowismydaddy
    @jacksparrowismydaddy Рік тому +1

    when I have to use DMPCs I have my players control them in battle.

    • @Metalisalearning77
      @Metalisalearning77 Рік тому +1

      Planning to be DM myself & after watching this I'm going to do my best NOT to do what's happened here

  • @ecos889
    @ecos889 Рік тому +2

    No forcing romance is a no-no. Your characters don't have to enter a romance if you the player do not consent. Whilst not as serious as IRL it's still an issue of consent as you the player control that character.
    Not only that often forced romances by a DM usually is a power move to either force IRL some kind of deluded version of "romance" to bloom with the player they are targeting or to roleplay their NSFW fantasies without the player's consent especially if not told in advance or questioning whether or not players want that kind of content.
    So it's a reg flag if it's forced and it's a sign the long-term goal for the DM is to use it as an avenue to SA the target player of DMs interest. If the player does not consent of course so would likely just have me leave the table citing the reason to other players.
    There can be romance for the humor of course but even then it's under the player's control whether or not they want to continue with the scene or not. But consent is always the issue in any game regardless of a player or their character's sex, sexuality, or gender identity.

  • @willhicks7027
    @willhicks7027 Рік тому +2

    The min-maxer sounds like a fun player from the story I hate the idea of forcing romance.

  • @starbird3939
    @starbird3939 Рік тому +2

    Story 1
    The OP is a yaoi fan girl that time warped from the mid 00’s when Gravitation and Loveless were the only gay fiction in the anime community, and fan girls wrote tons of poorly written and characterized fan fics.
    I will say the fan fiction has gotten better, as have boys love.
    As for this DM, forcing a romance on a player is a big no no and super not cool-be it hetereo or queer.

  • @Vulpecula-Enfield
    @Vulpecula-Enfield Рік тому

    Wow! She is totally a control freak.

  • @GoliathPyroson
    @GoliathPyroson Рік тому +1

    Damn the dm was terrible, that sucks man

  • @Glitch_Online
    @Glitch_Online Рік тому +1

    I liked good stories, not drama. Thanks for the good tiems.

  • @mysticmouse7983
    @mysticmouse7983 Рік тому

    This kind of issue could have been headed off by session zero safe spacing discussion .

  • @TexMeta
    @TexMeta Рік тому +1

    Women who fetishize gay male relationships are some of the most lacking in self awareness people ever. I hope to always have friends and players as good as that min/maxer.

  • @R3GARnator
    @R3GARnator Рік тому +4

    Female basement dwellers like this DM were pretty common on tumblr before the great collapse.

  • @25taylor91
    @25taylor91 Рік тому +2

    It’s wild because 2/3 of my players love to romance npc’s lol

  • @Sparkbomber
    @Sparkbomber Рік тому

    FTR, a DM trying to force something like this on another person's character is a gross violation of consent. Nothing wrong with a consensual relationship, but this was just the DM trying to insert her yaoi fantasies.

  • @warsolender1077
    @warsolender1077 Рік тому +1

    min maxer an op have the best character romance ^^

  • @waitwhat238
    @waitwhat238 Рік тому

    I don't even need to listen to everything.
    No. He wasn't

  • @bartlester591
    @bartlester591 Рік тому +1

    In my opinion, and someone who’s been on both sides of the DM screen I’m gonna say this dungeon Masters should not force their NPC‘s on player characters know if the player characters, the one that initiates it that’s fine, but I don’t think you did dungeon Masters have the right to force their PCs whether they’re male or female on anyone specially if the character doesn’t want it There is just such a thing is no meeting no and if you tell them you’re not interested in your not interested in going there and if they continue to push it then just walk away because it’s not worth it. I’m sorry I’m giving up years of playing DND because I could never find a party they didn’t want to be serious about sexual issues and believe me I met some mentally deviant her people in my time but when you tell someone you’re not interested in it and they keep pressing it that’s harassment

  • @dragonmasterknight7
    @dragonmasterknight7 11 місяців тому

    Oh god..... THIS story....

  • @benkayvfalsifier3817
    @benkayvfalsifier3817 Рік тому +3

    Can you spell "railroad" ?

  • @TheRuneTail
    @TheRuneTail Рік тому +1

    "I didnt leave cause of midmaxer" then talk to the MM and leave with them. Geez not many brains on this Op

    • @eechee2979
      @eechee2979 Рік тому +2

      Victim blaming. Weird flex but okay.

  • @stephanieedgar6308
    @stephanieedgar6308 10 місяців тому

    I don't know why these kind of people play DND. You like fanficition and cheesy romance novels? To each their own. But you can't create a game group for a team game if your only going to play by yourself. Dragging others along is not okay. Honestly, if you have enough experience to create an advertisement for a DND group then you have the experience to go into notepad app and type up a fanfiction instead of being selfish. 99% of players are not going to let you say how their characters feel. They aren't going to drop themselves at your characters feet and lick your boots. No they most ikely came to specifically avoid that kind of stuff. Like I said if you like fanfiction that is ok. But it is honestly a better idea to just go into a notepad app on your computer, phone, tablet, or whatever you have and just write down this grand story you have in your head. Don't host a DND session to try to write it. Just don't

  • @phillipburke9522
    @phillipburke9522 Рік тому +3

    It's a generational thing, in that a whole generation of players now think D&D is Critical Role and the like. Instead of it being about dice rolls helping to shape a story, they want to tell their story, and the dice are just sort of incidental. I highly doubt you will see this problem in any game with players from the old days, or experienced players beyond about 30 years old.

  • @NotMyRealName6
    @NotMyRealName6 Рік тому +2

    This is another DM forcing their fetish on their players, in this case yaoi.

  • @themr.greenshow7144
    @themr.greenshow7144 Рік тому

    Nope nope nope im not going to listen to this story

  • @jimmyflow007
    @jimmyflow007 4 місяці тому

    Wrong and sickening to pervert DnD like this...

  • @Lnaruto93
    @Lnaruto93 Рік тому

    If dm wanted to seduce the Claric should have been bard not a rogue unless bards/rogue

  • @number1360
    @number1360 Рік тому

    I blasted coom so hard. Yes yes yes

    • @ChryssaBL
      @ChryssaBL Рік тому

      Are you the toxic af DM? I sincerely hope you seek professional help before you rape someone.

    • @R3GARnator
      @R3GARnator Рік тому

      Ok.

  • @Dewani90
    @Dewani90 Рік тому +19

    Sheesh, don't force your BL fantasies on others, that DM sounded a lot like a fujoshi (girls who love boys who love boys), on the other hand minmaxer MVP of the show, saved our OP from being power top... because a bottom he wasn't.
    also thanks for sharing these tales, I raise my keg for Oogie the Honorary Dwarf (what?, everyone has their own favourite DNDtales characters)

    • @Lithiel
      @Lithiel 11 місяців тому

      yah I had a dm and or fellow rp/mod like this multi-times, and holy shit it was miserable.... Every. single . TIME.
      I'm waiting for the day this situation goes differently but after 4 different separate situations with a new fujoushi in the group, I've YET to see this scenario deviate. You either indulge in their BL ship or ELSE. My character either Dies, the champaign dies, I'm forced to leave because I wont play along, or I'm a rival for their own ship (even when I'm NOt participating in ships/romance) and thus I must be *removed*. ugh...

  • @dragonmasterknight7
    @dragonmasterknight7 11 місяців тому

    Oh god..... THIS story....