Dark Knight is SAVED! Warrior Better Than EVER! | Xeno Reviews Patch 6.1 Tank Balance Changes
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- Опубліковано 18 вер 2024
- Yoshi-P finally did it! Dark Knights are no longer in the grave! Xeno reviews the patch 6.1 job balance changes for tanks and is incredibly happy with pretty much everything (except GNB... poor gunbreakers LUL). A lot of Xeno's suggested changes actually got implemented in the game in patch 6.1. They are FINALLY listening!
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Ran the new dungeon with a drk. Popped living dead, used unleash once, was up to full HP. Dark knight is truly saved
Finally the title of WORST INVULN tank skill goes to Gunbreaker now Lol
Was the healing effect removed once you went full HP/Undead rebirth?
@@dannyVulture I would assume so since healing is attached to walking dead
@@extinctbaryonyx warrior invuln is worst then gunbreaker inv 99% of the time imo
what even hits you that hard there?
Xeno at the end, he's not the hero we deserve, but the hero we need. A silent protector, a dark knight.
not so silent, i mean 😂
It's nice when there is a healthy dialogue between players and developers. Starting to play FFXIV last year has been amazing.
I agree that in general CBU3 does a good job of this, but at the same time what you're not seeing as a new player is the ~7 years that Living Dead went unchanged despite it being almost universally hated in the community (from what I hear yoshi-p left it unchanged because of lore reasons.)
It also helps that the Devs play their own game, as well as those of their contemporaries, *actively*!
@@Cyromantik That's the most impressive part. Yoshi-P even progs ultimate/savage fights like any hardcore player lol
Oh yeah bro, it only took 7 years for this change to DRK, changed SAM that no one asked for, boring ass healer roles, physical range SMN that's so brain dead that you can make a 1 button macro and parse purple and trash ass MCH that has 0 purpose in the game but griefing any party they're in. They TOTALLY listen to community feedback. You're overly positive about getting thrown scraps.
If you have complains, use the in game support. It’s working well though. But try to be more constructive and respect l, otherwise it’s just like shoving to ppl face for that.
To be honest, I always thought SE doesn't watch Xenos because they don't like him. But after seeing these changes I would advise dollar tree Kratos to shine that gorgeous head of his, Yoshida might indeed be watching.
They din't, his viewers has prolly been spamming them with his suggestions.
While to some he might look negative he still have solid criticism over tank jobs and sometimes other stuff too. I think the FFXIV team in general is open minded enough to take any form of criticism even if they disagree with some. Feedback is feedback good or bad and if u run a live service u live or die by that feedback.
Everyone jumped the gun and assumed new LD was nerf before we got details tho
lol dollar tree kratos😆
@@jacksanity7508 we have kratos at home
As soon as I saw the patch notes, I was like “Xeno got everything he wanted” lol
Except Dark Mind being fixed lol
Except gnb buff
Except for button bloat being fixed. Or TDN not longer costing MP
Dark Mind and Salted Earth are still trash, but baby steps tbh
The DRK developer woke from his coma and finally turned in his homework. He got an A
As much as I like the changes theres still quite a lot of work left to do like fixing Salted Crap, Lolblation and Dork Mind just to mention a few not counting TBN being totally outdated compared to other job's equivalent, so no, its not an A and more of basic fixes that should have happened years ago
We will always remember 6.1, as the best time to be a tank.
Unless you're Gunbreaker, maybe we'll get our full bloodfest rotation in no mercy by 7.0
@@ValbrandrLeonhardt Well, we can't all be winners. :D
@@ValbrandrLeonhardt Maybe we'll be able to get that one hypervelocity inside of NM
@@ValbrandrLeonhardt Well you guys should have fun in pvp!
@@JackgarPrime gunbreakers in crystalline conflict scare the shit out of me, they just jump in and kill D:
Something he said at the beginning about Stalwart soul, as a level 62 DRK myself, yes, it does give blood gauge as soon as the gauge is unlocked.
I immediately thought of Xeno when I saw the drk changes. The change to living dead is exactly what I felt it should have done from the beginning and I love it so much.
Okay the intro is an absolute banger and quality editing 👌 was waiting for his reaction
I did some test in e4s unsynced no echo as it starts with a TB. With 77k hp, every hit I did healed 21k hp (crit not counted) so whatever you do, 4 hits will cleanse the debuff 100%
Thank God, DRK is my main class, anything with a greatsword is my go to.
Props to the editor! I really like the old-timey effect you put on the inserted video clips from the past. It gave the video a lot of extra character.
The dark knight changes look amazing, I can’t wait to play. I hope it’s enough to make me stop thinking “My party would have an easier time if I was another tank.” While in dungeons
This. I dealt so much with this when I leveled both warrior and dark knight through endwalker.
Yep! I was a DRK and my whole party died and they were like “you could have solo’d that if you weren’t a DRK” and I was pretty annoyed
@@gamewolf375 I didn’t have too much trouble leveling once I got the new nasceant stuff after the first dungeon, but that first dungeon is such a PAIN!!! Until you unlock the additional sustain. >_
@@Ashen_Hollow Warrior was great. That's the thing. I meant comparatively.
@@dimitriosgladio059 i wouldve said "you could have lived if you were good" lmao imagine getting wiped then complaining that your tank didnt solo. another one i probably wouldve said was "Yeah, I didnt come in here expecting to have to solo. Youre right."
My god that intro was amazing! Keep up the great work Xeno!
THANK YOU! THERE IS A GOD! While I'm genuinely envious of the people who have played 3.0 Dark knight, I'm genuinely enjoying it as it is now. Holy fuck, these changes are amazing.
3.0 DRK was definitely something special but I'm really glad you're getting to enjoy it now
GNB main here to weigh in on greedy wants: Sounds like a lot but... I'd like a 50-100% increase in healing potency for HoC and Aurora. An extension to No Mercy wouldn't hurt either, but the core rotation feels good right now.
Also for those that want to quibble over that being potentially too much... Bloodwhetting, Equilibrium(+Thrill of Battle), and Clemency would still probably outstrip GNB sustain even with those buffs.
Gnbs mit is super strong though
@@starbard691 Yes damage reduction is good (but the same could be said of the rest of the tanks at raw mitigation), but health sustain is not. There's a reason you can do no healer runs as a WAR where you might not with any other tank, and that gap was pretty wide until PLD started catching all the buffs.
Tested it this morning. Living dead works now even solo. Drk is saved
Can out heal a tank buster soloing old content?
@@DeeFourCee if youre soloing old content, then id assume youre doing it unsynced, and depending on what it is you should be able to mitigate through a tank buster rather than use living dead. But the basic principle is the same. No matter what content, you should theoretically be able to heal yourself out of living dead so that you wont die after its duration, as long as there is an enemy to hit
@@never5930 i meaning content that wad previously not possible but like some SB EX
@@DeeFourCee for stormblood EX, i actually did the 4lords (i think thats what its call) to farm with my tank friend for his mount and we were able to double tank each boss and it was doable that way. When trying to solo SB trials, it might be possible but i was never able to meet the dps check as a tank. To be fair i only tried once or twice solo
I can now play DRK on the new ultimate without being worried about living dead, that's some poggers news
Inb4 there’s a boss that does exactly what Xeno said would suck…a boss you can’t hit but tank buster
So happy to finally see you get a W for once man! Can't wait to see you kill it with these adjustments
I only got to test living dead once and with a massive group using an aoe it was healing close to 10k per hit. Rebirth activates literally with only 1 second passing lol.
Can't wait to pop LD and spam Unmends for heals. :D
It's pretty amazing just how much fun Dark Knight is to play now with these changes.
Dark knight has finally received the love it deserves
Almost like Xeno himself made these Drk changes! Thanks the god damn 12!!!
It's almost like Yoshi-P and devs are lurking in Xeno's stream/UA-cam channel.
for warrior and dark knight, they basically answered every requests from Xeno, i cant believe this is happening
almost every request, now they just need to get rid of the guaranteed crit/direct hit rate and warrior is perfect.
@@gigabased4 no, guaranteed crit is bliss.
Hell of a step in the right direction for DRK, just sad it took this long for some of these changes. I'll see you in Patch 12.1 when they finally finish tuning DRK.
Still got the shit trait for the pet/dot/thingy, and the Asmon Special(plunge recast).
TBN is still worse than the rest of the other tanks' short-term mitigation.
And DRK's actual "HP regen" ability is tied to a 300 second cooldown. For reference, WAR has the exact same ability on a 25 second cooldown.
@@WhiplashSL Yep, i kinda think the devs for Drk just worked part time for the past two expansions.
This feels like the Monkey paw curled on me. DRK is my favorite tank and got buffed finally. The cost... Samurai lost Kaiten... I'll take it.
The Kaiten removal has been overblown anyway now that SAM can still meld Direct Hit and it matters since Midare and Namikiri only Critical Hit instead of _Critical Direct Hit._
@@D-Havoc Truebut I can't do a sick swordspin before every Iaijutsu. Plus it just makes me not really care about my meter anymore. It's not bad but flavor was lost.
@@D-Havoc Yea, 2000 dps loss minimum on a 0 utility melee is definitely overblown.
Obviously.
@@Grav53 except we didn't just straight up loose 2000 dps... the values, if I read the notes right, were moved around on sam so they'd still be outputting roughly the same damage, but differently.
@@aliciafraser1835 Look at FFlogs and say that again. The notes say one thing but math and results are another. We lost 2000 dps because of the potency loss from Kaiten, and the shift in potency to our other attacks do not nearly make up for the loss. Going from a 990 potency attack (with Kaiten) to 600 is a gigantic nerf compared to just critting on a 990 potency ability.
Even if you Crit direct hit every single Midare , you're still losing out on several hundred potency just from the 360 potency loss alone. If they really wanted to keep it the same, they would have actually done the math. Instead we got fucked.
Lol the start was epic
Gave a thumbs up for the intro alone lmao
Now lets cry about TBN and Oblation… we can do it.
Just another 3 expansions thats all.
in case of gunbreaker
they should add a protection to your gnashing fang combo where if you started but then you need to move the boss and double weave you could go back to your main 123 or any other gcd without interrupting the combo
of course they also need to increase the duration of no mercy but everyone including xeems have been saying that
and in case of dark knight's sustain I've got couple ideas
1- take the description of oblation and put it on dark mind(oblation will be an upgrade to tbn)
2- combine abyssal drain with salted earth and add a debuff to enemies inside the dot pool making every damage they take( even from the party) or a percentage of it goes as heal to the dark knight and of course the button changes to the second ability
3- oblation just takes current tbn and adds a heal either if the shield breaks or not
if it breaks you get 10% of max hp as heal and if it doesn't break the remaining of the shield is converted to hp with a minimum value of the former 10%, meaning for example if there is 3% remaining shield you still get 10% heal and if 12% remaining shield you get 12% heal
now we could argue about the value of the minimum amount of heal you get from it but that's just my idea
Sooo pumped to be a Drk main again
most of the sensitive 14 players hate xeno but i still like him because he speak the truth.
DRK is SAVED, even the self mitigation is still need a lot of improvement but the LD rework and Blood weapon is good enough
Edit :Most sensitive players.
Honestly they should give blood weapon back its life steal and DRK will be as solid as every other tank
Correction: most of the sensitive ffxiv players hate xeno*
@@kahome Literally this. Absolutely.
@@Sammysapphira what I meant of improvement is like drak mind mits at least make it can take all dmg.
Ofc in raid everyone prefer DRK because they do dmg and have quite short invuln. And tbn is good with flat mit.
But in dungeons is another story.
@@Sammysapphira aren't they missing a mit in level 70 content (ultimates) compared to the other tanks? also dark mind only effecting magic attacks?
Warrior getting an easy fix to inner release stacks while rdm over there still have dualcast cast canceled by sprint and pots
That intro to the video was a BANGER LMAO!!!!
also I don't see this get mentioned but with blood weapon change and early level stalwart souls dark knight actually now has a normal aoe routation that actually feels good with you being able to hit 5 blood weapon normally now where as previously you need to use your single target routation or do some weird delirium shenanigans to hit 5 blood weapons with aoe.
So now, TBN changes? Either Edge/Flood need to have their own cd and mp cost removed or vice versa for TBN.
Delete Oblation and just rework Dark Mind to function like that.
Can introduce another skill/ability/trait for removing Oblation….or re-introduce an previously deleted Drk skill/ability from past expansions.
Wouldn’t hold your breath for any blackest night changes anytime soon
@@r4hillman …if we keep talking about it like we did LD…..then maybe SE will see the ‘feedback’
And change it sooner rather than later
Reducing the mp cost would be nice too….to bring Drk in the line w/ the other tank that ‘uses magic’
Nah TBN is good as it is. I have no desire for that ability to just become another tank CD. It's unique because of it's risk-reward system and super low cooldown that makes it extremely versatile in a prog setting. Oblation sucks, but they just need to add a self heal onto it or something and I think DRK will be fine.
@@ethanhenderson3942 Tanks that use magic for offense and defense:
Clemency - 2k mp
The Blackest Night - 3k mp
Holy Spirit/Holy Circle - 1k mp each (dmg and self healing)
Edge/Flood of Shadow - 3k mp each (if Dark Arts not active and just dmg)
Don’t think it would hurt for Drk to see at least a reduced mp cost for whenever they use those magic abilities
@@GEMINIVice1 2k for both TBN and their offensive spells so they can easily spam 5 times with 10k mp
Man , justice for living dead makes me pretty happy . But tbh ill prob still main GNB till the nerf our dmg into the dirt.
DRK and WAR got all the major changes I wanted, so fuckin hyped for this patch
Call me fanboying or whatever, but we're a a little bit of clunk cleanup on GNB away from pretty much being in the golden age of tanks. Probably some other nitpicks to clean up with DRK and WAR but with the 6.1 changes, it's hard to ask for much more.
Now we only lack Sole Survivor, Tar Pit for sustain, delete dark mind and restore Shadow Veil, cut the mana cost on TBN turn the spells into weaponskills, separating Carve and Spit/Abyssal Drain CD and, maybe, work on that unmend trait.
Not going to lie, when I saw the changes to Dark Knight I immediately thought, "I want to see how Strummer responses to this"
Yoshi P.
*I salute you*
Three steps forward, one class entirely gutted and thrown in a shallow grave in a ditch, doused with gasoline and set on fire to burn the evidence. Next patch they're going to use a pair of needlenose pliers to remove Samurai's teeth so the cops can't even check the dental records.
Pour one out for the Kaiten swing.
as a samurai main, i'm in a lot of pain
Right after Xeno said “let me draw it”, I got a commercial with three women sitting on a bench and the middle one was talking looking to the left but both sides have been listening. Kinda fitting.
I think drk should get overtime healing for standing in salted earth, then it should get a burst heal with salt and darkness for every enemy hit by it. Plus the range of salted earth should be increased
Oh nice, responded to earlier video but looks like they’ve been buff since then
lol i have DK unlocked looking forward to leveling it.
The joy is real!
Here's a tank buster ExxDee
Now i'm flyin' away TeeHee
Ahh i'm fucked GeeGee
Thanks for introducing me to that absolute banger of a song at the intro.
fantastic edit! great stuff!
WAR keeps on winning, but we're happy to see the other tanks come up near our level!
RIP Silver Samurai
MCH changes are a joke. I bet Yoshi P. would delete the job from the game if he could get away with it. I'm happy for DRK finally getting some love.
Idk much about what’s wrong mechanically but 2.5% damage increase isn’t the worst
@@DeeFourCee Idk where you got 2.5% from but a measly 10 potency on a few abilities and an extra 350 potency every 2 mins isn't nearly enough for how far behind they are in damage
@@DeeFourCee Also hypercharge needs the blood weapon treatment because it still makes it highly ping dependant
@@playeroneirl1886 the balance
@@DeeFourCee Even if their guess is correct that still isn't nearly enough to put them above bard and dancer. Having no unique utility and the lowest damage is like BLM doing less damage than the other casters.
Just tried it, if Delirium is up it’s an automatic cleanse. It’s a straight death otherwise if you’re reliant on that for the cleanse.
No that's not correct at all. It doesn't matter what gcd you use the heal will always be 1500. So any 4 gcds will slef cleanse
Any 4 hits. So an aoe that hits four targets is an instant it seems like.
@@XenosysVex Thanks for the correction, someone brought it up also in my 24 man earlier. I'm just bad :^)
LMAO! Your face in the thumbnail cracked me the fuck up.
That glorious intro lifted my mood a bit after getting written up for having an earbud in walking to the lunch room for break. Otherwise, I'm kind of fuming.
While my GNB is sitting in a corner moping my WAR is sharpening her axe ready to fell cleave! Finally some well deserved tank adjustments and a huge gz to all you DRKs out there FINALLY.
Living dead is basically benediction in trash pulls however the healing part will disappear once undying rebirth takes affect so mitigation is needed to not drop to low health again.
EDIT: They had living dead in such a state for so long that most healers don’t know about this change or think I’m trolling them.
When I saw the living dead change, the only thing that came in mind was your reaction to it.
When I looked into the note especially fix of living dead and then I just realized Xeno is god. The solution was exactly what he proposed in previous video.
Now it's an qualify skill and remains class style as Dark knight.
'Dark Knight is Saved' aged so well.
It would've been funny if they gave blood weapon 5 stacks but it still had a 10s duration
That intro stole my sub while I wasn't looking
Oh, good. Time to come back and play again
tanks become the best itteration of themselves, meanwhile Samurai becomes the worst job in the game (and the most braindead)
Yeah, they just killed my SAM... it's impossible to play anymore.
It boggles my mind how such a frustrating, stupid change can make it all the way through their levels of playtesting and come out the other side with people on the dev team saying "yeah, this is good."
@@blueray222 yeah, makes me just think that they have 1 team in charge for all jobs, look at the job and be like "yeah, this feels better, let's do it"
Wish we had more of an insight how they did their testing and who did it for each job since sometimes it feels like they have no idea about the job.
Like as someone in the balance discord (who made an forum post aswel) said.
if this is to reduce button bloat, then why is Shoha divided in 1 and 2 (ST and AOE) or the kenki spender OGCDs being split between AOE and ST, or why is the namakiri button seperate and not transformed into namakiri when using igishoten, right there 3 buttons saved vs 1 button.
The reasoning Yoshi gave was because the more we continue the higher the stats are gonna go the more of an gap between not critting/direct hitting and getting an crit/dh on your big hitters (please, ever since the stat squish stats feel as pointless as they could, for example the crafted mage body had 29 difference in intelligence vs the ilvl 600 body ... only 29 intelligence)
This wasn't an issue in shadowbringers where the stats were skyhigh, where tanks at the end would have 200k HP for example, why would it be an issue now.
Checked in the balance and apparently the new Ogi Namakiri hits lower as the old setsugekka (with Kaiten) how do you fuck it up that badly. (this was done on an SSS dummy with pots, so no raid buffs)
just mind boggling, stopped maining SAM since i've proceeded to fill the magical dps slot for my static (red mage) so the buff in displacement was nice, although you rarely use it since you know, you can't double weave using it but whatever.
Hope that they see all the feedback from the SAM community and go "maybe we fucked up, let's reverse the changes as think on it again"
THAT INTRO WAS GLORIOUS LMFAOOOO
Soon as i read the drk patch notes last night i laughed and thought of you
Once I see the changes on living dead I know there's gonna be a video coming soon
On range of Overpower. New aoe is radius 5y. Old 8y distance. However, it definitely hit a little beyond it's target. It also had quite a bit of width especially at end of 8y. So it's a bit hard to directly compare area.
Old Overpower's design fit well with a slow pull style. Where you let enemies run toward you and can take the time to angle off first to reach you to hit the rest. New one better fits rushing ahead and being in the middle of enemies.
Outside of the pull mobs immediately circle around you though so it's always been a huge pain to reposition, then your dps has to reposition, then reposition again 5 seconds later. Now just unga bunga like other tanks.
Leo pulling up historic critiques from Xeems is wonderful. Shows how long this stuff has been thought about. Xeems brain is more game than neurons now.
The pld changes initially made me so excited because you could move your Valor combo around. In my mind you could have it so you could have double Valor under tincture. But someone on the balance did the math and said it was worse. Oh well, I think it'll allow for some nutty optimization in the future.
There will likely be a fight or two where you can gain a DPS edge abusing it but as mentioned its mostly fat finger insurance. PLD is the lowest DPS tank still I think and missing Confiteor/blade combo was probably too punishing to casual PLD players. That and the new combo changes make PLDs a bit more flexible in using their support kits, though that doesn't really apply to savage.
Tbf its easy to look at these patch notes and speculate on the effect they'll have. We just have to wait and see it all in practice
I haven't tried DRK yet since the fix. I'm hopeful.
DRK was my first tank, and my favorite until just like 2 months ago
Maybe this is a stupid question and since I'm still leveling warrior that's probably the case but why does warrior not get an aoe gauge builder until the 70s? Am I missing something or does it make as little sense to other people as it does to me that you get a spender way earlier but not a builder? Wouldn't that just mean I should be saving my gauge for single target then, at least until I can easily replace it? I'm confused.
No it's just stupid. One of the few times I think the developers were 100% idiots. The best you can do is use infuriate in aoe and then inner release at 70. If you have gauge during aoe use it since it's not hard to gain anyway
The thumbnail upside down clickbait frown is gold.
Ok they are definitely watching your content dude.
Just started playing ff14 2 months ago and I am so glad I never had to experience the old TLD.
I have used this several times in duty finder to clinch bosses when my healer has died. He healing is massive and it works for every hit on the duration so you can self cleanse.
It's decent in pack pulls but you need to communicate to your healer ahead of time that you plan on using it because they will panic and to save you before it pops causing you to miss the window. If TLD pops you will be at full health after 1 unleash so it's best to hold still until the duration is nearly complete.
Love the reaction looking forward on your future vids. Thank you
gnb needed some changes to the continuation but apparently no one posted a thread on the forum so they didnt do anything about it,
drk and gnb still have burst window issue, hard to pop mits
Now we just need the beards that are in the fucking game :smadge:
DARK KNIGHT IS GOOD>?!??! THANK GOD I FUCKING RESUBBED WE ARE WINNING
I feel like I need to subscribe twice after that intro.
We gotta get a harp sound playing in the transition whenever Xeno from an old video is talking.
Will be interesting to discover which ones are not in the 'most attacks'... but still awesome
Everything that normally goes through tank invulns this ain't exclusive to dark knight every tank invuln is the same
Blade of Faith no longer being a combo action with Confiteor is the best news of the year for me. My ape brain has pressed Holy Spirit 5 times in a row and lost Confiteor windows too many times.
It's easy to count to 3, get distracted by fight whilst still mashing keys then roll the dice instead of spend half a second checking your buffs. Counting to 5 really is tuff.
DRK Main: I"M IN THE GRAVE!!!!
They just need to hand over class balancing to you my boy.
cleanses in 4 gcds guaranteed, 3 with a crit, 2 with 2 crits, realistically 3 in content where you've got a kardia or a fairy or aoe regens on you. completely self sufficient even in single target as long as you can slap something
I've been waiting for this video!!!!!
Im just here for the opening...
You can 3 gcd heal if you have a combo'd souleater as one of hit.
Best Patch to be a Tank, worst to be a Dps. Might gona Switch from Sam back to playing Tank again
4:55 you can in fact, fully healed yourself, my tank just did that on meteion ex
Imo all dark knight really needs now is a bit more mitigation. Maybe tack something onto dark arts. Make it so when your blackest night is absorbed you get like 5 to 10 seconds of say 15% damage mitigation. Or maybe make it so dark mind blocks more than just magical. If that happens dark knight will be perfect
New living dead is actully so good , actully love it man
They finally let the DRK dev out of the basement
WE DID IT