Glad to see Andrew Hawkins doing well. I saw Johnny's first training camp. Andrew impressed me at practice, especially catching punts. Good for you Andrew.
Johnny’s rise was in an interesting place in time - he couldn’t legally capitalize on his name, image and likeness back then, while social media was taking off.. this was when Twitter and IG were taking off and news traveled faster than ever, so there was no way they could keep the off field shenanigans under wraps like they probably have with other players in the past.. he catapulted collegiate players becoming “famous” beyond the casual football fans.. whether you followed college football or not, you knew who Johnny Manziel was.. A&M made around 700 million in revenue after Johnny’s first year.. He would’ve made sooo much money if the NIL existed back then. What an interesting life he’s lived.. and still so young at that. Hope he finds his happiness and calling
The Johnny Manziel experience for me was one of the best five high school football players I have ever scouted, and the documentary just confirmed the worst kept secret in south Texas that Manziel had off-the-field issues that for some reason nobody has dug far enough to find yet.
Eh.. I wouldn't say that. Roger Staubach. Manning. Ken Stabler. Otto Graham. White Mobile qbs have always been around. They just weren't stigmatized for being mobile. In all honesty it racism why there's even the so called "conventional " or "Mobile" qb. It's basically code words for black. Not necessarily how qbs play. Because plenty of white qbs were Mobile. Shit ken Stabler was an option qb at Alabama. So was Manning at old miss. So was Staubach at navy. None of those qbs ever got dinged for being athletic or running. They only did it to the black qbs. Which is why the labels are even a thing in the first place.
@anthonygraham8122 I totally agree with the point you're making, but the OP's point that Tarkenton was the "original white mobile quarterback" is accurate also. All the QBs you listed came into the league after Tarkenton, except Otto Graham.
@jesseluff1 eh, not really. My point was being mobile wasn't a thing because most qbs did it. Bart Starr, Joe Kapp. They were before tarkenton. It's not about who came before or after. Pretty much most of the white qbs were Mobile. It'd be like saying Jerry Rice was the original black wr technician on routes. That's not true because most black wrs are/were route technicians before and after Jerry Rice. My point is Fran tarkenton wasn't the original because most of the qbs back then did run. It just wasn't talked about seen in a negative way.
1:30 all I have to say in response to that take is MARCUS MARIOTA. One look at his mechanics and it’s clear he was always gonna be trash. The Eagles should have never even signed him.
Come on, there's plenty of white college QBs who had swag, he wasn't a big deal until he beat Bama. As much as Johnny screwed up his life, there are QBs who get 8 hours of sleep and don't drink an ounce of alcohol who never beat Bama.
People dont realize when you are depressed you do things unconsciously to sabotage your life. Only later in hindsight do you see that you did that stuff on purpose.
That was back when taking photos and showing everyone in the world was starting to become strong. Now people are more aware that someone is taking photos or taking videos and will be posting it. Nothing is going to be private.
Attitude #1, he was overconfident and thought his pure talent would suffice. Problem is that college level shit dont always translate in the NFL. #2 size matters. when everyone else on the field is not only bigger but also just as fast as you are, they are gonna catch you and crush you.
Crazy how quickly ppl forget lol & smh. Tim Tebow was def just as big if not bigger than Manziel. Florida was actually winning lol. Tebow was HUGE and i hated every minute of it.....dude was all over EVERYTHING smh
I never understood why scouts pumped him up. The dude was BARELY 5'8". He wasnt 6' like they were saying. I met him. Im 6'1 and felt like a giant next to him. He weighed 160....maybe. He was tiny. Not an athletic bone in his body.
It's hard to single out his biggest issue in terms of translating his game to the NFL, but one of them is that his famous escapability at the college level just turned into sacks and small gains in the NFL. He just wasn't quick enough
I remember little football Johnny trying to beat the panthers all pro LB Kuechly to the corner. Yea he ended up getting destroyed for a big loss. After that I knew he was low quality low iq.
Throwing 3 picks in WALK THROUGH is Insane!!
facts 🤣😭
You go through lots of walk throughs huh
@BlakeBearden-lt3cf been through both sides blake haven't even seen 3 on the professional level
The doc didn't interview any teammates which was annoying, but this helps make up for that. Great insight
Glad to see Andrew Hawkins doing well. I saw Johnny's first training camp. Andrew impressed me at practice, especially catching punts.
Good for you Andrew.
I never thought about the white vick aspect. Thats such a good point.
Vick won games tho
Johnny’s rise was in an interesting place in time - he couldn’t legally capitalize on his name, image and likeness back then, while social media was taking off.. this was when Twitter and IG were taking off and news traveled faster than ever, so there was no way they could keep the off field shenanigans under wraps like they probably have with other players in the past.. he catapulted collegiate players becoming “famous” beyond the casual football fans.. whether you followed college football or not, you knew who Johnny Manziel was.. A&M made around 700 million in revenue after Johnny’s first year.. He would’ve made sooo much money if the NIL existed back then. What an interesting life he’s lived.. and still so young at that. Hope he finds his happiness and calling
Crazy that they had that awareness that they were living a 30 for 30.
We all do
#Earth #mothernature #itiswhatitis
The Johnny Manziel experience for me was one of the best five high school football players I have ever scouted, and the documentary just confirmed the worst kept secret in south Texas that Manziel had off-the-field issues that for some reason nobody has dug far enough to find yet.
There's no way they didn't know. Kid could just flat-out ball. You know how it is as a fb player. And he beat bama! Sky was the limit
@@timothymoore2966they knew. Everyone knew. His first week at Texas A&M he got arrested they knew he had off the field problems.
@@timothymoore2966one of the main reasons he didn’t have tons of big offers
They should've interviewed his teammates
They should've interviewed his bartenders
DragonFlyJonez needs to turn his mic on!
Hawk looks like a young GZA right here.
I saw Johnny Manziel at the pool at the Hard Rock in Las Vegas during the middle of a season. The guy must have weighed 120 pounds.
Who knew bernie Williams knew so much about football…
Hawk needs a documentary his road to the NFL was different
Crazy story.
Boy, Andrew has a smooth delivery
Fran Tarkenton is in the Pro Football Hall of Fame, which was the original white mobile quarterback.
Eh.. I wouldn't say that. Roger Staubach. Manning. Ken Stabler. Otto Graham. White Mobile qbs have always been around. They just weren't stigmatized for being mobile. In all honesty it racism why there's even the so called "conventional " or "Mobile" qb. It's basically code words for black. Not necessarily how qbs play. Because plenty of white qbs were Mobile. Shit ken Stabler was an option qb at Alabama. So was Manning at old miss. So was Staubach at navy. None of those qbs ever got dinged for being athletic or running. They only did it to the black qbs. Which is why the labels are even a thing in the first place.
Damn you’re old
@anthonygraham8122 I totally agree with the point you're making, but the OP's point that Tarkenton was the "original white mobile quarterback" is accurate also. All the QBs you listed came into the league after Tarkenton, except Otto Graham.
@jesseluff1 eh, not really. My point was being mobile wasn't a thing because most qbs did it. Bart Starr, Joe Kapp. They were before tarkenton. It's not about who came before or after. Pretty much most of the white qbs were Mobile. It'd be like saying Jerry Rice was the original black wr technician on routes. That's not true because most black wrs are/were route technicians before and after Jerry Rice. My point is Fran tarkenton wasn't the original because most of the qbs back then did run. It just wasn't talked about seen in a negative way.
Yeah but Frank had the basic mechanics of a QB
1:30 all I have to say in response to that take is MARCUS MARIOTA. One look at his mechanics and it’s clear he was always gonna be trash. The Eagles should have never even signed him.
Y’all forgetting about Nebraska’s Eric Crouch.
Yeah and Crouch had legit 4.4 speed, much much faster than Manziel
My man was a confidential informant...Yo, fam...don't be snitching on me to my agent...
Come on, there's plenty of white college QBs who had swag, he wasn't a big deal until he beat Bama. As much as Johnny screwed up his life, there are QBs who get 8 hours of sleep and don't drink an ounce of alcohol who never beat Bama.
That’s 🧢
People dont realize when you are depressed you do things unconsciously to sabotage your life. Only later in hindsight do you see that you did that stuff on purpose.
That was back when taking photos and showing everyone in the world was starting to become strong. Now people are more aware that someone is taking photos or taking videos and will be posting it. Nothing is going to be private.
Attitude #1, he was overconfident and thought his pure talent would suffice. Problem is that college level shit dont always translate in the NFL. #2 size matters. when everyone else on the field is not only bigger but also just as fast as you are, they are gonna catch you and crush you.
Size and athleticism was never his problem though. He was an alcoholic and drug addict that was his problem
Sometimes two comments can be true at once!
@@Sleezygem his performance on the field had nothing to do with partying.
Jimmer Ferdette might have made more college money … but that’s the only one I can think of that had more hype
I don’t think Jimmer and Johnny are in the same ball park. Jimmers was nice but not box office or national media hyped.
Bro not even close they Johnny was A list
Tebow was bigger 🤔
Reggie Bush not even close..
Dam can you get to the point
Take away Mike Evans and Johnny Manziel is nothing. Evans was the star and Manziel got the credit.
Looking out for Johnny … translation--- snitching
Crazy how quickly ppl forget lol & smh. Tim Tebow was def just as big if not bigger than Manziel. Florida was actually winning lol. Tebow was HUGE and i hated every minute of it.....dude was all over EVERYTHING smh
Yea exactly. Tebow was definitely bigger than manziel but manziel was in the same stratosphere if that makes sense
I never understood why scouts pumped him up. The dude was BARELY 5'8". He wasnt 6' like they were saying. I met him. Im 6'1 and felt like a giant next to him. He weighed 160....maybe. He was tiny. Not an athletic bone in his body.
Won a hesiman but no athletic bones alright
It's hard to single out his biggest issue in terms of translating his game to the NFL, but one of them is that his famous escapability at the college level just turned into sacks and small gains in the NFL. He just wasn't quick enough
The guy on the right. he has facial hair so that says not gay. But.
I remember little football Johnny trying to beat the panthers all pro LB Kuechly to the corner. Yea he ended up getting destroyed for a big loss. After that I knew he was low quality low iq.
Hey dan how is your brother? 😂