Railgunner dominates on long maps and bosses. Juggernaut can shred Tanky enemies with a higher DPS but with lower range. Honestly, you should get Juggernaut first bcuz of how lenient it is in mid game to late game but railgunner can be used for the Nightmare modes and upcoming events. Edit: Might was well we add some more popular towers to this comment since people still see it Laser Gunner: Extremely versatile having Stealth Detection, Armour Piercing, and Clean damage to any type of enemy(meaning it won’t get its damage reduced by Bullet or explosive resistant enemies.) Your go to tower for expert mode as stealth and Armour are way more frequent, resulting to Juggernaut struggling way more. Additionally the range of top path and the Cheap price of bottom path makes it shine on expert. Downsides are its damage being in numbers, making it harder to maintain and micro, horrible cost efficiency against normal enemies with no resistances. Toxicnator: In light of recent nerfs, this things garbage lol. Just kidding, its bottom path is good for hard waves such as 30, 31 and 33. Top path USED to be extremely risky and rewarding for speed-running on expert but a monkey came and crippled it. Use it for early game to shave off a minute I guess. Although the bottom path has good use on bosses such as the Exo-Santas and Erad. Artillery: due to popular demand(and me actually using it) Artillery is one of the best towers to have assured control, meaning you can easily choose what enemies to kill and avoid. Top path for quick and fast splash damage, use fuel for speedrunning expert but no stealth detection once top path is reached. Bottom path arti will pull an Oppenheimer and eviscerate anything in its radius. Downsides are its long reload time, Jammers that disable you from reaiming it, and you have to constantly monitor and micro it(for both paths until Ofc, 5-2 arti) Warship: Mix Juggernauts DPS, Railgunner‘s range, Artillery’s splash damage and snipers bottom path and you’ll get an absolute behemoth of a tower, if we can call it a tower. This behemoth is very special, that it can only be placed on VERY VERY VERY large oceans of water, only found outside the map. However, it has GLOBAL range so it can easily target and deal constant damage to an enemy with ease. Top path boasts extreme crowd control albeit no stealth detection(LG & sniper save us). Bottom path turns it into a splash damage railgunner, with convenient stealth detection. One of the best towers ever added. Armoured factory: TBA. And so concludes all of the endgame towers. If you want me to list any other towers, feel free to reply. Of course there’s no Perfect tower, everyone has their flaws but every tower can synergise and help one another to win.
i hate how yt comments are npc comments like i/ i didnt like my own comment or stopping kids from saying… etc. instead of telling what they actually feel about the video yk what i mean?
I'd say, Jug is overall better than railgunner. Yes, I'd agree that in terms of boss shredding, railgunner would beat it. However, jug is overall more useful throughout the whole game. Railgunner's main drawback is that it is slow. Jug doesn't have such issue, while still maintaining one the highest DPS in the game. You'd generally have more use for it throughout the four modes we currently have. Plus, hordes would mess you up if you mainly rely on rail.
literally soloed expert using railgunner as my only dps tower, top railgunner spam with supports shred everything, including cloned hordes of enemies (the map wasn't even long)
Almost never use jug in expert he is completely useless on expert meeting tons of armored enemies and always need flare ability or laser gunner. Explosive is better even bottom mt outclass jug in expert mode. Railgun,mt,and laser, and artillery is better for expert ngl
@@luukschouteten8928 That one new map, which is for some reason has "easy" difficulty when its not easy at all, its literally 5 times shorter than every other easy map, while towers cannot attack in the road loop due to the huge obstacle in the middle, as well as some small obstacles which are very much in the way
Bro say juggernaut is best for crowd control💀, juggernaut is best for single target damage that is best for juggernaut not crowd control that for splash damage towers
@NathanielOlbara you ducking idiot, juggernaut has very fast firerate and can destroy hordes of low health enemies quickly, while railgunner can only shoot one target per ducking 12 seconds
@@NathanielOlbara So you're telling me for example 0.1 firerate tower with 60 damage would do same against hordes than 2 firerate tower with 1200 damage?
It Is so sad that everyone forgets about top path jug having armor pierce And lotta range with it also being cheaper cause Its actually good/must have in expert cause else you're probably dead
I honestly agree with ya mate. Top path on juggernaut is good for expert due to ap. You do need hidden support to kill hidden ap enemys but it by far more useful and more dps then laser gunner
Giving that bot jugg has more dps than top rail (while also being affected by edj way better, having stealth detection, dealing with swarms with or without tanky enemies but without having that much range), you can probably do better with jugg against bosses if you set them all to strong while dealing with swarms with something else (top path lg spam, artillery, perhaps bottom missile...)
Just to let you know that the reason edj doesn’t help that much is because the bottom path rail gunners have that 11 sec aim time that can’t be buffed so while the reload got cut by .30 of a sec it doesn’t matter.
This is like the “is accel better than enginner” dilemma. It’s kinda hard to tell and it’s kinda both cuz u don’t want to lose juggernaut but u also don’t want to lose railgunner
Personally, I think juggernaut is much better since edj can affect fully juggernauts same to John, and Jugg can help through mid and late game on boss too, and railgunner just gonna take care of bosses what can be actually some sort of dps support for boss.
Credit should be given where it's due, range matters a lot for bosses, especially for Eradicator and its MK2 counterpart as they have close range attacks that decimate your towers and having the ability to just place your DPS towers halfway across the map on a cliff while still attacking the boss at all times is super valuable so you have to spend less money overall as the towers will stay alive much longer and *effectively have more DPS and better price efficiency.
Good video elite, best part of this video is where yoy explain briefly through the towers, cons and pros. love heart this comment if you can or comment so i would feel like i actually support.
Ok so *Jugg* is an good defense at early to end game but has lower range than Art and Rail but in raw power Jugg takes it just because he is reliable to kill zombies and *Rail* is more for boss takedown but need another tower to finish the job if theres an enemy with more hp than the dying boss it goes good on early and endgame (same has Jugg) *Art* he has good aoe for early has good splash on late game and same thing has Jugg and Rail good for early game but you gonna need some dmg support. Overhaul these 3 towers need to be used on the lategame because *Jugg*: has low range but extremelly strong shredds bosses easily but if an enemy escapes from his range theres where Rail enter *Rail*: has huge range but takes a long time to attack so its more for an boss takedown from afar but need support if theres an enemy with more hp than the boss theres where Jugg helps *Art*: best splash on the game (excluding battleship because still on development) good splash dmg huge range so he is better for strong spam of enemys does not have an good dps on his own and theres when Jugg or Rail or even both enter
Railgunner atleast for me Is a bit better, take in mind you got More towers to support It early on, like snipers or laser gunners, they just shred away a boss and the rest of your towers get a cakewalk literally
Both are good. Railgunner can easily take down bosses and so can juggernaut. Juggernaut can reach up to 1000 dps while railgunner 500 but with huge range. You can just make a coin flip on what you want or pick them by what you think looks cooler. It really doesnt matter which is better for early-mid because they get outperformed by other towers anyway
Jet profile picture, based man detected. As someone who didnt unlock Railgunner yet, i agree 100%. Just pick whatever, either one will work fine. The only real difference is that The Railer will get destroyed by hordes, but will also shred through bosses and tanky enemies much more quickly than Juggernaut (yknow, what it was made for? Its specialty?). Juggernaut is a more general tower, it can do anything and everything good enough without much support.
Railgunner falls in an awkward place for me. Juggernaut is overall stronger spammy waves and can shred bosses effectively and even if it does struggle with hoards there are towers like artillery which can combo well with juggernaut. Railgunner on the other hand is extremely powerful against bosses and tankier enemies overall, but can’t really do much against hoards. You also can’t really combo it with towers like artillery since some waves need high dps to do well. It’s also doesn’t perform too well with juggernaut since you lack good splash damage. I agree that railgunner is powerful, especially against bosses, but I think juggernaut is overall a more versatile option, but railgunner has only recently came out so we’ll see truly how strong it is.
Juggernaut is overall better imo. While the jug doesnt normally have AP (top path max has though), it has monsterous dpm which will most definitely help you every horde wave. Railgunner is great for bosses, however if there are hordes its most likely going to be useless on that. Overall, get Jug. It has High DPM, can get Armor Piercing top path and is able to withstand much more imo.
Basically, this is just the sniper or operator argument Operator does more dps but less range, and sniper deals less dps with more than 2x the range Edit: Do not open the replies. There is ww3 going on down there. If you want my advice, just ignore people like this since they want the attention that they can't get from their freinds or classmates since they are always annoying and you can't convince me otherwise.
Yeah, jugg has a similar price yet does double the damage at bottom path, mows down hordes AND pierces armor at top path. Rail is very expensive for what it is, needs small splash damage for a buff at least.
@@blueislifelifeisroblox Railgunner is already extremely great, you can get through hordes of enemies at the last waves of expert with just top path railgunner spam with supports, it doesn't need any buff at all. Also pretty sure Railgunner pierces armor at any path, unlike Juggernaut
@@cta1403 pause. so you think top path railgunner is good for wave 34, 37 and 38? what delusion? i only see you kicking yourself in a whirlpool because i'm ratioing railgunner. you dumping a bomb of arguments on me about rail did not buy that rail doesn’t need a buff since it's more expensive but does a speck of dust worth of shit compared to juggernaut's at that point splash damage, stomp damage, whatever the hell i'd wanna call such high damage. that seems like a concept you can't grasp, the only thing you can grasp is your security camera if you had a railgunner plushie if it existed and then someone robbed you with dual mini guns on them solely for securing the plush.
@@cta1403 watch me as i get 3 bottom path juggernauts and 2 top path only and manage to kill every multiplied charger boss, multiplied armored runner. i'm sure you need 12 top path railgunners to get ANYWHERE close to that
@@blueislifelifeisroblox Yeah, it is good for waves 30-40. Literally won expert using top path rails, as i said (oops i've said that in the different comment, sorry), i've had about 6-7 max top rails and 2 bottom rails, aswell as one John for the damage buff and 2 max edjs. Blud really keeps saying Railgunner is worse than Juggernaut, when Railgunner range is 4 times bigger, and atleast it ain't getting oneshot by a single EradicatorMK2 ability 💀
so you were the dude who made railgunner set to strongest?top path set to should first since it fires faster and it a pain to change from strongest to first?
You should try the battle bricks! its SUPER FUN! Well made and isn't garbage like other td games. It is super hard though ngl. But its pay to win so it's perfect for you :troll:
@@EnderKnightGames well if you end up liking the game and playing it here's a tip: NEVER SPENDNYOUR BRICKS ON XP. NO MATTER WHAT. (Bricks are the second currency)
tbf you can't really compare Juggernaut to Railgunner, they're both very different in what they specialize in. Of course, I think for most people they would want to get Juggernaut first since his high DPS tends to make him good all around for shredding hordes and bosses, whereas you can get Railgunner later on to specialize solely for bosses with its insane single shot damage. It's kinda like how Minigunner and Ranger work in tandem in TDS, except Railgunner would be more specialized in his role with his almost 7k damage at a maxed bottom path.
@@IMBADATHUNTINGMYHTS-jr8db yeah artillery and rail would make for a better comparison. One does a bit less damage but can annihilate hordes while the other one does crazy damage but can only disintegrate one target at a time
tbh, expert is the only mode where you can use its full potential, and that's if you're the only person farming, and everyone else is carrying. (by full potentional, i mean get like atleast 10 of them and watch it shred the boss in less than 60 seconds)
6:35 well you can set it to strongest on earlier waves and on waves later on with heavy enemies spam and elite grenadiers in expert ( idk if they exist in funni intermediete ) You can set it to WEAKEST with one jugg on max bottom to deal with shocky bois that sutn
Juggernaut also can be for bosses wdym? You rsther get alot of juggernauts and dj with john at expert or tbh any mode instead of grinding expensive railgunner who will carry u only at boss ( it wont help you through mid or early game ) so basiclly this tower is not worth 15k. I rsther buy juggernaut which I did instead of buying railgunner.
@@krakersowyswir2122juggernaut is good for bosses yes but railgunner is just simply better and more safer/reliable than juggernaut. Juggernaut is better in just about any other scenario though
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this is like compairing a dps unit to a nuker unit, both have different purposes, juggernaut has bigger dps while railgunner deals more damage in large bursts.
Railgunner is made to Deal with bigger enemies like MK II or other Mini Bosses. Juggernaut is made to Deal with hordes, Also bigger enemies the same as Railgunner but takes time to kill.
I don’t really like how compared them by how much dps instead of RNG as rail gunner will have some really good spots for it and will most likely deal more dmg overall with its RNG, but ngl artillery is just better than both railgunner and juggernaut cuz he carry’s in long maps
jugg is obviously better for dps and makes expert way easier while railgunner is optional and is not really that good Edit:railgunner isn’t as reliable as jugg because it has high cooldown
i just get laser gunners to account for railgunner's lack of crowd control, usually works jugg is just better, railgunner is cool and silly (and has alot more range) but we don't need that in these gamemodes
If you have both of the towers a combination of them is especially good if you have bottom ot top jugg and some bottom rails on strongest i shred through experty with that.
how come you mention rails dps when it’s meant to suck at dps since it’s damage per second For example the max rail bottom path has a 11 second aim time and one second reload time with a dps of 600 while jugg has 1050 (with edj since most of the time a edj will be used) Or a raw dps with no buffs of 750 but rail has 8100 damage which in let’s say 2-4 Dose so much! But it will suck for any horde's So if the game mode persists around high hp enemies and not hordes rail will be best jugg will be best with hordes since it’s a high fire rate tower (if your reading this thanks for reading my yap session) :D
Railgunner can shred bosses and high health enemies while jug has better crowd control (and yes for a fact it can also shred bosses but not good as the railgunner)
No juggernaut can shred bosses BETTER than railgunner because it literally has 1050 dps it takes 6 seconds to deal as much damage as the railgunner wich means railgunner is a bad tower that shouldnt be 15k and instead should be 10k its literally worse than juggernaut how is this even a debate? people are really dumb these times bro
@@desertman88 Why do you have to add ''people are really dumb these times'' Bro are you mad? infact, its just easier to solo expert with the railgunner you have to use mine layer with jug but you dont even need any of those if you didnt watch YuukTv's railgunner video he literally shreds eradicator mk II in 52 seconds and you just have to wait for the eradicator to get all to way to the back and using jug is just risky.
@@gamemaster6552 Jugger is still better than railgunner lmao im sure there are videos that use juggernaut to shred eradicator mk II, also railgunner is alot more expensive than jugger
Juggernaut is also good against bosses, it is good against both bosses and hordes and deals double the damage than railgunner at max level which makes it better for late game overal, the only thing railgunner has advantage in is range, which allows you to not have any need to sell and buy after boss goes out of range.
You are comparing a 2-2 Jugg with a 0-0 rail, that is not fair especialy since the jugg costed you 13k and rail 3.2k so bassically you could have had 11 rails for that price (0-0 rails to be more exact), also a 2-2 rail is cheaper than a 2-2 jugg
1:38 What noob would have the 15k coins to buy a railgunner ☻ any ways i dont railgunner is good (i have it), im gonna wait for Nightmare or whatrever is the next difficulty maybe adding an Smart Targetting or deleting the 11sec weird couldown of the 2.5 and just leaving it like a competent tower
Railgunner: good for shredding final bosses Pros: good for killing final boss, big range, high health. Cons:slow aim, slow firerate, big placement, expensive. Juggernaut: best for almost all Pros:really good for any enemy, top path cheap with armor piercing, Cons: big, expensive. Conclusion: I've learned/realized that juggernaut is good, railgunner is also good, but juggernaut chunky
due to rebalances and all of that i think railgunner would be better because you can get a faster firerate or more damage which both help it by a longshot, especially since juggernaut is expensive and you can only really get it at late game, and bottom bath is really good but expensive jug also struggles alot with elite/expert and will with nightmare i imagine (and to be fair its kinda hard to compare cuz on intermediate elite didnt really upgrade the rail and said u only want a little bit of dmg when the tower is meant for dmg)
It doesn’t matter anymore, g juggernaut is real. Still, I like how elite didn’t just say what the tower does and which is better and gives actual reasons and situations when it is more reasonable
Railgunner dominates on long maps and bosses. Juggernaut can shred Tanky enemies with a higher DPS but with lower range. Honestly, you should get Juggernaut first bcuz of how lenient it is in mid game to late game but railgunner can be used for the Nightmare modes and upcoming events.
Edit: Might was well we add some more popular towers to this comment since people still see it
Laser Gunner: Extremely versatile having Stealth Detection, Armour Piercing, and Clean damage to any type of enemy(meaning it won’t get its damage reduced by Bullet or explosive resistant enemies.) Your go to tower for expert mode as stealth and Armour are way more frequent, resulting to Juggernaut struggling way more. Additionally the range of top path and the Cheap price of bottom path makes it shine on expert. Downsides are its damage being in numbers, making it harder to maintain and micro, horrible cost efficiency against normal enemies with no resistances.
Toxicnator: In light of recent nerfs, this things garbage lol. Just kidding, its bottom path is good for hard waves such as 30, 31 and 33. Top path USED to be extremely risky and rewarding for speed-running on expert but a monkey came and crippled it. Use it for early game to shave off a minute I guess. Although the bottom path has good use on bosses such as the Exo-Santas and Erad.
Artillery: due to popular demand(and me actually using it) Artillery is one of the best towers to have assured control, meaning you can easily choose what enemies to kill and avoid. Top path for quick and fast splash damage, use fuel for speedrunning expert but no stealth detection once top path is reached. Bottom path arti will pull an Oppenheimer and eviscerate anything in its radius. Downsides are its long reload time, Jammers that disable you from reaiming it, and you have to constantly monitor and micro it(for both paths until Ofc, 5-2 arti)
Warship: Mix Juggernauts DPS, Railgunner‘s range, Artillery’s splash damage and snipers bottom path and you’ll get an absolute behemoth of a tower, if we can call it a tower. This behemoth is very special, that it can only be placed on VERY VERY VERY large oceans of water, only found outside the map. However, it has GLOBAL range so it can easily target and deal constant damage to an enemy with ease. Top path boasts extreme crowd control albeit no stealth detection(LG & sniper save us). Bottom path turns it into a splash damage railgunner, with convenient stealth detection. One of the best towers ever added.
Armoured factory: TBA.
And so concludes all of the endgame towers. If you want me to list any other towers, feel free to reply. Of course there’s no Perfect tower, everyone has their flaws but every tower can synergise and help one another to win.
uber late game? what does that mean
like the final wave
really late game. Probably for expert mode, and most likely being useful for the upcoming nightmare mode.@@Kyterfied
@@KyterfiedSorry, I got confused from another game. Anyways what I meant was it could def be used for the upcoming Nightmare modes
artillery dominates every thing including juggernaut and railgunner (cringe) #500dmgsplash
i hate how yt comments are npc comments like i/ i didnt like my own comment or stopping kids from saying… etc. instead of telling what they actually feel about the video yk what i mean?
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Like: "__ likes and 0 reply?, let me fix that" right?
@@doggydude2668 ur goddamn right jessie
I'd say, Jug is overall better than railgunner.
Yes, I'd agree that in terms of boss shredding, railgunner would beat it.
However, jug is overall more useful throughout the whole game. Railgunner's main drawback is that it is slow. Jug doesn't have such issue, while still maintaining one the highest DPS in the game. You'd generally have more use for it throughout the four modes we currently have.
Plus, hordes would mess you up if you mainly rely on rail.
literally soloed expert using railgunner as my only dps tower, top railgunner spam with supports shred everything, including cloned hordes of enemies
(the map wasn't even long)
Almost never use jug in expert he is completely useless on expert meeting tons of armored enemies and always need flare ability or laser gunner. Explosive is better even bottom mt outclass jug in expert mode.
Railgun,mt,and laser, and artillery is better for expert ngl
I agree
@@cta1403what map was it?
@@luukschouteten8928 That one new map, which is for some reason has "easy" difficulty when its not easy at all, its literally 5 times shorter than every other easy map, while towers cannot attack in the road loop due to the huge obstacle in the middle, as well as some small obstacles which are very much in the way
Personally my thoughts that railgunner is best for damaging a boss/high hp boss whereas juggernaut is best for crowd control
Bro say juggernaut is best for crowd control💀, juggernaut is best for single target damage that is best for juggernaut not crowd control that for splash damage towers
@NathanielOlbara you ducking idiot, juggernaut has very fast firerate and can destroy hordes of low health enemies quickly, while railgunner can only shoot one target per ducking 12 seconds
@@NathanielOlbarahe means that it is better at crowd control.....
Can you not use common sense?@@NathanielOlbara
@@NathanielOlbara So you're telling me for example 0.1 firerate tower with 60 damage would do same against hordes than 2 firerate tower with 1200 damage?
It Is so sad that everyone forgets about top path jug having armor pierce And lotta range with it also being cheaper cause Its actually good/must have in expert cause else you're probably dead
bro that's not sad people just don't care.
Ok, tell me the reason why they dont care then
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I honestly agree with ya mate. Top path on juggernaut is good for expert due to ap. You do need hidden support to kill hidden ap enemys but it by far more useful and more dps then laser gunner
everyone forgets that artillery is better that jugg and rail combined spread the truth #atrillery gang
Giving that bot jugg has more dps than top rail (while also being affected by edj way better, having stealth detection, dealing with swarms with or without tanky enemies but without having that much range), you can probably do better with jugg against bosses if you set them all to strong while dealing with swarms with something else (top path lg spam, artillery, perhaps bottom missile...)
Just to let you know that the reason edj doesn’t help that much is because the bottom path rail gunners have that 11 sec aim time that can’t be buffed so while the reload got cut by .30 of a sec it doesn’t matter.
logically, the EDJ should make the aim time longer, since it's pretty hard to aim with loud music blasting in your ears
This is like the “is accel better than enginner” dilemma. It’s kinda hard to tell and it’s kinda both cuz u don’t want to lose juggernaut but u also don’t want to lose railgunner
yeah both towers have their ups and downs i guess
Nice I was waiting for someone to post this. This helped me decide witch to buy
Good stuff! Can't wait to watch this video, Elite!
Yes you can
how is it "good stuff" without even watching it
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Rail gunner is the meta against bosses while juggernaut is op against bosses while being better mid late game
@@Brazil0987why?
he just types that on every single comment randomly@@timurginali1922
@@timurginali1922Ignore this attention seeker he's everywhere
@@timurginali1922 he is just rage bait ignore him
@@HardabilityIt's an account that comments to get people rage at them that's all
Juggernaut is useful and more versatile for every map and mode, definitely get it first
ya and itll help with elite grinds n allat
0-0 jugg is insanely efficient
@@Brazil0987 welcome to the world you fucking newborn
Yooo, this reminds me of ranger vs accelerater
@@Brazil0987 why🤨
Personally, I think juggernaut is much better since edj can affect fully juggernauts same to John, and Jugg can help through mid and late game on boss too, and railgunner just gonna take care of bosses what can be actually some sort of dps support for boss.
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Credit should be given where it's due, range matters a lot for bosses, especially for Eradicator and its MK2 counterpart as they have close range attacks that decimate your towers and having the ability to just place your DPS towers halfway across the map on a cliff while still attacking the boss at all times is super valuable so you have to spend less money overall as the towers will stay alive much longer and *effectively have more DPS and better price efficiency.
Good video elite, best part of this video is where yoy explain briefly through the towers, cons and pros. love heart this comment if you can or comment so i would feel like i actually support.
2:26 I thought he was talking about the TDS plushies for a second
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Railgunner is meant to deal with bosses but juggernaut does it too for a better price
Ok so *Jugg* is an good defense at early to end game but has lower range than Art and Rail but in raw power Jugg takes it just because he is reliable to kill zombies and *Rail* is more for boss takedown but need another tower to finish the job if theres an enemy with more hp than the dying boss it goes good on early and endgame (same has Jugg) *Art* he has good aoe for early has good splash on late game and same thing has Jugg and Rail good for early game but you gonna need some dmg support. Overhaul these 3 towers need to be used on the lategame because
*Jugg*: has low range but extremelly strong shredds bosses easily but if an enemy escapes from his range theres where Rail enter
*Rail*: has huge range but takes a long time to attack so its more for an boss takedown from afar but need support if theres an enemy with more hp than the boss theres where Jugg helps
*Art*: best splash on the game (excluding battleship because still on development) good splash dmg huge range so he is better for strong spam of enemys does not have an good dps on his own and theres when Jugg or Rail or even both enter
Juggernaut is used to do crowd control, and Railgunner is used to tear big enemies to shreds
juggernaut is twice the dps, so it is better than railgunner at taking down bosses quick.
@@DemiCape but Railgunner is a ton of damage in 1 shot I’d use him to short circuit EradMKII
Railgunner atleast for me Is a bit better, take in mind you got More towers to support It early on, like snipers or laser gunners, they just shred away a boss and the rest of your towers get a cakewalk literally
Both are good. Railgunner can easily take down bosses and so can juggernaut. Juggernaut can reach up to 1000 dps while railgunner 500 but with huge range. You can just make a coin flip on what you want or pick them by what you think looks cooler. It really doesnt matter which is better for early-mid because they get outperformed by other towers anyway
With EDJ: 1050 DPS, with ability: 1575, with ability and edj top path and john rage ability: 2K DPS-
@@bloxingdue john rage ability works on railgunner too it doesn't matter what you pick as your late game dps
@@melonium0but what about the hp
@@LavelinaAli Juggernaut has stun immunity instead
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As someone who didnt unlock Railgunner yet, i agree 100%. Just pick whatever, either one will work fine. The only real difference is that The Railer will get destroyed by hordes, but will also shred through bosses and tanky enemies much more quickly than Juggernaut (yknow, what it was made for? Its specialty?). Juggernaut is a more general tower, it can do anything and everything good enough without much support.
Railgunner falls in an awkward place for me. Juggernaut is overall stronger spammy waves and can shred bosses effectively and even if it does struggle with hoards there are towers like artillery which can combo well with juggernaut. Railgunner on the other hand is extremely powerful against bosses and tankier enemies overall, but can’t really do much against hoards. You also can’t really combo it with towers like artillery since some waves need high dps to do well. It’s also doesn’t perform too well with juggernaut since you lack good splash damage. I agree that railgunner is powerful, especially against bosses, but I think juggernaut is overall a more versatile option, but railgunner has only recently came out so we’ll see truly how strong it is.
They should so add a “sandbox” mode like in bloons, so you can mess around and test towers for fun, like they could include it in vip pass
@@Brazil0987wow a sandbox has skill issue while it doesn't even require skill because it literally has admin commands
pretty dumb to only include it on vip
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i agree, literally all admin,mod,dev and owner of any tower defense is sometimes making one of their match into a playing field (sandbox)
and also i think they should make it you need to be level 100 cause theres a huge gap between artillary and warship
Juggernaut is overall better imo. While the jug doesnt normally have AP (top path max has though), it has monsterous dpm which will most definitely help you every horde wave. Railgunner is great for bosses, however if there are hordes its most likely going to be useless on that. Overall, get Jug. It has High DPM, can get Armor Piercing top path and is able to withstand much more imo.
Also, remember about the prices. Top path Jug with AP costs much less than a railgunner.
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I love your videos man:)
I really like how TDS took so long to release juggernaut that John said "fine, I'll do it myself"
I’d recommend getting juggernaut first cuz you can spam for more good dmg and then grind for railgunner
#aretillerypride get artillery first
@@rotary64Artillery the goat!
@@Brazil0987 As someone who (regretfully) bought rail gunner i can indeed confirm that artillery requires more skill to use
@@Bobert_Toast i have gotten artillery it helped me win expert
@@andrejnikolic5612 that's why he's the goat
Didn't john already told that railgunner is ONLY meant for boss takedowns and not normal enemies
Basically, this is just the sniper or operator argument
Operator does more dps but less range, and sniper deals less dps with more than 2x the range
Edit: Do not open the replies. There is ww3 going on down there. If you want my advice, just ignore people like this since they want the attention that they can't get from their freinds or classmates since they are always annoying and you can't convince me otherwise.
@@Brazil0987 This has nothing to do with skills doe, I doubt anyone even struggle to use sniper / operator.
@@Brazil0987It isn't even about skill issue what?
@@Brazil0987 what is blud yapping about
don’t give the troll attention
@@Brazil0987 *attention SKILL ISSUE CANT EVEN TYPE PROPERLY
I Cringe when people like elite talk about how good rail gunner is, #aretillerypride #artillerysupremace #stickittotherailgunner #artillerygang
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Personally Railgunner is a pretty good boss shredder, but juggernaut is just better.
Yeah, jugg has a similar price yet does double the damage at bottom path, mows down hordes AND pierces armor at top path. Rail is very expensive for what it is, needs small splash damage for a buff at least.
@@blueislifelifeisroblox Railgunner is already extremely great, you can get through hordes of enemies at the last waves of expert with just top path railgunner spam with supports, it doesn't need any buff at all. Also pretty sure Railgunner pierces armor at any path, unlike Juggernaut
@@cta1403 pause. so you think top path railgunner is good for wave 34, 37 and 38? what delusion? i only see you kicking yourself in a whirlpool because i'm ratioing railgunner. you dumping a bomb of arguments on me about rail did not buy that rail doesn’t need a buff since it's more expensive but does a speck of dust worth of shit compared to juggernaut's at that point splash damage, stomp damage, whatever the hell i'd wanna call such high damage. that seems like a concept you can't grasp, the only thing you can grasp is your security camera if you had a railgunner plushie if it existed and then someone robbed you with dual mini guns on them solely for securing the plush.
@@cta1403 watch me as i get 3 bottom path juggernauts and 2 top path only and manage to kill every multiplied charger boss, multiplied armored runner. i'm sure you need 12 top path railgunners to get ANYWHERE close to that
@@blueislifelifeisroblox Yeah, it is good for waves 30-40. Literally won expert using top path rails, as i said (oops i've said that in the different comment, sorry), i've had about 6-7 max top rails and 2 bottom rails, aswell as one John for the damage buff and 2 max edjs.
Blud really keeps saying Railgunner is worse than Juggernaut, when Railgunner range is 4 times bigger, and atleast it ain't getting oneshot by a single EradicatorMK2 ability 💀
so you were the dude who made railgunner set to strongest?top path set to should first since it fires faster and it a pain to change from strongest to first?
You should try the battle bricks! its SUPER FUN! Well made and isn't garbage like other td games. It is super hard though ngl. But its pay to win so it's perfect for you :troll:
You mean Battle Cats? Cause if so that’s not on Roblox but idk
he gonna spend so much bricks trying to get an uber
@@EnderKnightGames there's a roblox version of it. And it's WAY better in my opinion.
@@bonesworth9079 Ohhhh, sorry I didn’t know, I assume it has no ahem… questionable stuff, I’ll check it out
@@EnderKnightGames well if you end up liking the game and playing it here's a tip: NEVER SPENDNYOUR BRICKS ON XP. NO MATTER WHAT. (Bricks are the second currency)
tbf you can't really compare Juggernaut to Railgunner, they're both very different in what they specialize in. Of course, I think for most people they would want to get Juggernaut first since his high DPS tends to make him good all around for shredding hordes and bosses, whereas you can get Railgunner later on to specialize solely for bosses with its insane single shot damage. It's kinda like how Minigunner and Ranger work in tandem in TDS, except Railgunner would be more specialized in his role with his almost 7k damage at a maxed bottom path.
but you can compare rail gunner and artillery #artillerygang #500dmgsplash
#aretillerypride
@@IMBADATHUNTINGMYHTS-jr8db yeah artillery and rail would make for a better comparison. One does a bit less damage but can annihilate hordes while the other one does crazy damage but can only disintegrate one target at a time
tbh, expert is the only mode where you can use its full potential, and that's if you're the only person farming, and everyone else is carrying.
(by full potentional, i mean get like atleast 10 of them and watch it shred the boss in less than 60 seconds)
What is “it”
@@JeszczeMonke rail
6:35 well you can set it to strongest on earlier waves and on waves later on with heavy enemies spam and elite grenadiers in expert ( idk if they exist in funni intermediete ) You can set it to WEAKEST with one jugg on max bottom to deal with shocky bois that sutn
Elite you always help me out with seeing what towers are good and your other content! You make my day!
Bro is bot
Basically, railgunner for bosses. Juggernaut for like, everything else.
Juggernaut also can be for bosses wdym?
You rsther get alot of juggernauts and dj with john at expert or tbh any mode instead of grinding expensive railgunner who will carry u only at boss ( it wont help you through mid or early game ) so basiclly this tower is not worth 15k. I rsther buy juggernaut which I did instead of buying railgunner.
@@krakersowyswir2122juggernaut is good for bosses yes but railgunner is just simply better and more safer/reliable than juggernaut.
Juggernaut is better in just about any other scenario though
I agree, railgunner is only good in one situation bosses. Just buy literally every other tower than Railgunner.
combined is most powerful. Imagine a full squad one with jugg, one focus on stealth, one focus on railgunner
Elite I love your content so much I've been watching for 2 years now! You got me into TDS and other tower defense! Thank you for bringing me into this community!
Dude is bot
just a normal guy that has a railgun but turns into a litterl war machine at 2-5💀
bro change you comments to newest and its like bloods vs crips meme but with artillery and railgunner lmao 💀what is this
Jugg very inportant for crowd controll rail doesnt have that thats why jugg more important
Is john gonna add like Accelator in the game More dps than Jug (i hope so)
Edit: so I mean like accelarator but call it incinerator it is just my idea
why would he just copy a tower from a completely different game.
He can’t just copy over the same concept as accelerator with the same design. If you want a laser themed tower, then refer to laser gunner.
@@jeb-the-doomed Yeh but i am saying that Its like Lg but more dps (not bottom path)
In Twitter, Tdx retweeted a post showcasing animations of a refractor tower which may be the same as accelerator.
@@basically5300 thats what i am saying its like accelator but a whole new desing
john works pretty well with railgunner,but you need to time the ability
"should I get the one that's good at everything or the one that's only good at taking down the bosses" it's honestly a no brainer GET JUG FIRST!!!!
Me waiting for my rg to shoot 10, 250 hp enemies when it takes 11sec for 6k dmg
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Basically accelerator vs ranger
this is like compairing a dps unit to a nuker unit, both have different purposes, juggernaut has bigger dps while railgunner deals more damage in large bursts.
There needs to be a golden armored or barracks thoughts?
Man I really want to grind for that railgunner
do it then
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@@desk537 why
@@AGutBustinDrumSolo got banned
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Juggernaut dps and rail gunner has more range and pierces bullet resistance and no splash but over 6k damage on one path
While you are at it, SSK JOHN WHY THE HECK HE REMOVED BLOOD?!
oh yeah i just notice that
Probably Roblox being cringe
Railgunner is made to Deal with bigger enemies like MK II or other Mini Bosses.
Juggernaut is made to Deal with hordes, Also bigger enemies the same as Railgunner but takes time to kill.
I don’t really like how compared them by how much dps instead of RNG as rail gunner will have some really good spots for it and will most likely deal more dmg overall with its RNG, but ngl artillery is just better than both railgunner and juggernaut cuz he carry’s in long maps
Your forgetting that explosion resistance exist in the game
elite when high tier towers are destroying easy-mid difficulties:😮
I just realized
Is bottom path rail Max based on electricizers bottom path from tower blitz?
No, john has never played tower blitz, atleast on camera
Possibly one of his Developers/Modelers has played tower blitz before.@@PatrykPer
Did you forget, that john gives more dmg as a buff? Im asking because its not in the video
Bro really brought 3 of the most expensive towers into a solo
jugg is obviously better for dps and makes expert way easier while railgunner is optional and is not really that good
Edit:railgunner isn’t as reliable as jugg because it has high cooldown
i just get laser gunners to account for railgunner's lack of crowd control, usually works
jugg is just better, railgunner is cool and silly (and has alot more range) but we don't need that in these gamemodes
Juggernaut of railgunner? Idk I didn't watch the full video yet
juggernaut vs railgunner
Juggernaut is better
Tip you can solo intermediate mode with op then jugg and rail bottom path
elite best uploader lets go
Ngl railgunner bottom oath is like top path eletc in tower blitz 😅
@@Brazil0987says you who spams alot and also that isn't skill that's just basing on older stuff
Me watching this a few mins after getting juggernaut: I should’ve take some notes from here before buying it
@@Brazil0987 Thanks for telling
If you have both of the towers a combination of them is especially good if you have bottom ot top jugg and some bottom rails on strongest i shred through experty with that.
how come you mention rails dps when it’s meant to suck at dps since it’s damage per second For example the max rail bottom path has a 11 second aim time and one second reload time with a dps of 600 while jugg has 1050 (with edj since most of the time a edj will be used) Or a raw dps with no buffs of 750 but rail has 8100 damage which in let’s say 2-4 Dose so much! But it will suck for any horde's So if the game mode persists around high hp enemies and not hordes rail will be best jugg will be best with hordes since it’s a high fire rate tower
(if your reading this thanks for reading my yap session) :D
Railgunner can shred bosses and high health enemies while jug has better crowd control (and yes for a fact it can also shred bosses but not good as the railgunner)
@@Brazil0987 What do you mean by ''sKiLL IsSuE''
@@Brazil0987 Explain how and stop liking your own comments its like brain rot ill track your house down if you wont just stop doing it
No juggernaut can shred bosses BETTER than railgunner because it literally has 1050 dps it takes 6 seconds to deal as much damage as the railgunner wich means railgunner is a bad tower that shouldnt be 15k and instead should be 10k its literally worse than juggernaut how is this even a debate? people are really dumb these times bro
@@desertman88 Why do you have to add ''people are really dumb these times'' Bro are you mad? infact, its just easier to solo expert with the railgunner you have to use mine layer with jug but you dont even need any of those if you didnt watch YuukTv's railgunner video he literally shreds eradicator mk II in 52 seconds and you just have to wait for the eradicator to get all to way to the back and using jug is just risky.
@@gamemaster6552 Jugger is still better than railgunner lmao im sure there are videos that use juggernaut to shred eradicator mk II, also railgunner is alot more expensive than jugger
Rail gunner is good against bosses
Juggernaut is good against hordes
Juggernaut is also good against bosses, it is good against both bosses and hordes and deals double the damage than railgunner at max level which makes it better for late game overal, the only thing railgunner has advantage in is range, which allows you to not have any need to sell and buy after boss goes out of range.
Lagg moment at the start xd
You are comparing a 2-2 Jugg with a 0-0 rail, that is not fair especialy since the jugg costed you 13k and rail 3.2k so bassically you could have had 11 rails for that price (0-0 rails to be more exact), also a 2-2 rail is cheaper than a 2-2 jugg
I wa snot reffering to the shop prize but placement cost@@Brazil0987
1:38 What noob would have the 15k coins to buy a railgunner ☻
any ways i dont railgunner is good (i have it), im gonna wait for Nightmare or whatrever is the next difficulty
maybe adding an Smart Targetting or deleting the 11sec weird couldown of the 2.5 and just leaving it like a competent tower
yea bro why would you spend 15 on a gay tower when you can get a artillery #atrillerypride
If the noob uses ranger to get railgunner
Railgunner: good for shredding final bosses
Pros: good for killing final boss, big range, high health.
Cons:slow aim, slow firerate, big placement, expensive.
Juggernaut: best for almost all
Pros:really good for any enemy, top path cheap with armor piercing,
Cons: big, expensive.
Conclusion: I've learned/realized that juggernaut is good, railgunner is also good, but juggernaut chunky
@@Brazil0987can you say anything rather than skill issue
@@Simlygoobrhe's in kindergarten his vocabulary isn't advanced enough to say anything else 😔
Ahhh... the long time argument of the TDS minigunner and ranger has been passed to TDX.
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The juggernauts that the revived plague doctor summons have armor*
due to rebalances and all of that i think railgunner would be better because you can get a faster firerate or more damage which both help it by a longshot, especially since juggernaut is expensive and you can only really get it at late game, and bottom bath is really good but expensive
jug also struggles alot with elite/expert and will with nightmare i imagine (and to be fair its kinda hard to compare cuz on intermediate elite didnt really upgrade the rail and said u only want a little bit of dmg when the tower is meant for dmg)
maybe if you upgraded your railgunner instead of leaving it on lvl 0 we'd see how good it really is
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Max down path has aim time,thats why dosant get buffed by dj,but jonh buff makes it a bit stronger...just a bit
6600 damage per shot.... are you kidding? With that amount damage, even 10% damage buff is already insane
armor boss hunter very long range:railgunner hiddens high dps :jug
1:38 Noobs with railgunner? Alr Elite.
It doesn’t matter anymore, g juggernaut is real. Still, I like how elite didn’t just say what the tower does and which is better and gives actual reasons and situations when it is more reasonable
rail gunner is prob for players who struggle on the last wave as it acts like sniper but more effecient
For me i hallucinate like the railgunner is like the missle trooper on early game but more expensive
main enemy targeting option when
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Im just gonna get rail installed just because he looks cool lol
BRO WHY DIDENT YOU DO NIGHTMARE MODE!?
its not released yet????
have you never even played the game?
It’s not out yet you dummy
have you ever ddeveloped a brain that understands sarcasm?@@glareninja
Railgunner made to deal with strongest enemy and bosses with their ridiculous damage on bottom path
So basically u need both for expert jugger for mid game and rail for endgame
love how they both bald asf
this is like comparing a carrot to water, they have different purposes and cant be compared
yea the same way you cant compare artillery to any other tower cuz artillery is the best
Bruh the npc comments 😮 crazy guys
hold on 12 minutes ago?!
These towers are really OP so WE juste need one of them to grind or do expert