THIS IS WHAT MAPPA DID TO FIX THE CONTROVERSIAL ENDING of Attack on Titan Manga vs Anime
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- Опубліковано 2 чер 2024
- THE UNTHINKABLE JUST HAPPENED TO THE ENDING of Attack on Titan The Final Chapters. It surpassed and truly improved the polarizing ending.
0:00-1:27: INTRO
1:27-6:12: Eren and Armin go for a walk
6:12-7:39: The "10 Years at least" scene
7:39-12:24: New Anime Scene of Eren & Armin
12:24-12:33: SPOILERS for Breaking Bad Finale
12:33-14:07: Armin says goodbye to Eren
14:07-14:28: Thank you Marine Inoue for Voicing Armin
14:28-15:16: 3 year time skip
15:16-17:35: Post Credit scene
17:35-19:11: OUTRO - Фільми й анімація
Don’t know why ppl hated Eren for his emotional breakdown, it just symbolizes the boy we’ve known from season 1-3 is very much in him.
Same thing i thought and couldnt understand, why ppl telling me, that this destroyed his character. Doesnt make any sense..
Haters being haters. Nothing anyone can do to make them happy
The only part i don't like was when he cried wanting to stay with mikasa and don't want him with anyone else. That's the only part i think was out of character bcs he always cares about mikasa passively. Not wanting her to be free with anyone else was kinda f up😂. But other than that his character was done beautifully
I didn't mind that or him saying he did it because he's an idiot. I just don't like the time travel aspect of the founding Titan and attack titan being able to manipulate events lol it's infinite regress
@@megatbasyarullah4859that too. That's why I don't get how the show even has shippers he always gave brother
Tbh I think Eren's breakdown was necessary to show that he's still human, that he's still the Eren who wanted to live happy life
Also... Eren being so obsessed with Mikasa in the end shows HOW he could know what Ymir was feeling... the obsession and love Ymir had with Fritz, that made her stick around for 2000 years. It's the same he feels toward Mikasa, that's how he could tell what she was feeling... he knows it. And why Ymir would side with him over Zeke in the first place.
I never had a problem with Eren's emotional breakdown in of itself.
It's the fact he did so AFTER admitting to killing 80% of all humanity, billions of people. It sounds like "I killed billions, but waaaahhh, I don't want Mikasa to find another man!"
In the anime, they swapped the order. They made Eren cry first, and then used it to make Eren admit to trampling billions, and arguing that he for that reason should not be allowed to live. That made a lot more sense.
it still doesn’t make sense and has giga loser vibes
@@ranges787 he is a teenager???
Eren had a run similar to Thanos where he was the fan favorite but just like Thanos his character fizzled out the at ending.
@@TheFoolishable do you know why ?
because isayama magically decided to not ripp off muv luv in the LAST chapter … what a 🤡 he should have committed to 100% not 99% and this travesty of an ending
@@zakzerak7191 look at eren when he speaks to reiner in the basement does he look like a teenager to you ? does he act like one? it’s a lazy excuse this ending is a 180 turn around destroying his character
Fun little fact that it seems you might not have noticed. The song playing at the end is sung by Mikasa's voice actor, and when the bird wraps the scarf around her, you can hear Eren's voice actor sing together with her. An absolutely BEAUTIFUL ending to this amazing story, so much love poured into it.
Add to that the original song, 13 no fuyu, was only sung by Mikasa and never by anyone else.
@@kidoki_lwlahh thanks i was looking for the songs name😂
@@kidoki_lwl I absolutely adore that song so much😭
I just went back to rewatch that scene and I'm sorry -but I'm gonna have to bill you for my next three therapy appointments
I don't speak Japanese
Eren's dialogue after Armin punches him is just a reminder that these kids are STILL 19 YEARS OLD. At their core, they're children for god's sake!! They've been burdened with these larger-than-life powers, responsibilities, these tragic fates, these horrific existences. But they're still kids, they're still teenagers, and you shouldn't forget about that. Why? Because that is all part of their tragedy. They should've had a normal childhood, a normal teenagehood, they should've had time to worry about their crushes and their childish wants. Instead, Eren had to see the most fucked up thing imaginable for any single person and become a slave to it for the following years until his death. The big scary skeletal murder monster makes you forget about that. This scene reminds you about that. It IS cringe because Eren IS cringe, EREN. IS. A. TEEN. And that's what's so sad and tragic about all of this, and about that scene.
Makes me feel so bad for him. He suffered so much. Wish they at least added more scenes for him.
I don't even think it was cringe at all. Who wouldn't react the same way after knowing that the love of your life could potentially spend their life with someone else?
Eren's reaction was completely rational imo. I'm sure anyone would've had a meltdown if they were in his situation.
@@pokimanefartcompilation I find it revelating that Eren finally showed his true feelings since he stopped showing any emotions at all after the ceremony memory thing.
I had very mixed feelings when the manga ended with how the story took its turn. but it wasnt until i read a youtube comment that pointed out that Eren wasnt even trying to save the world, he just wanted to give his friends peace for as long as they could live. Eren never wanted to be heroic in the first place, and i became more understanding with the ending, the story has always been about survival, from beginning to end. What Eren did is still unjustifiable cause he mustve stomped on people that has nothing to do with Paradisian suffering. It just goes to show that the story never tried to be overly deep or heroic, it was just about survival
yeah
BUT INCEST ENDING for god SAKE
The dislike the manga ending, but I think the anime ending is a genuine improvement:
1. One issue of the fake death of Jean and connie remains but the fact that they decided to release this all as ine large episode greatly helps it as it does give you the whiplash of emotions.
2. The change in the armin and eren scene was great and saved the ending here for me. Wven if its a mistranslation, "Thankyou Eren for being a mass murderer for our sakes" is a tereible line no matter how you look at it. Instead I love the new dialogue and the part about Armin taking equal responsibility for all of it and how they will both meet each other in hell is just lovely.
Yeah, I think that line was always misinterpreted. It was meant to be Armin while being polite, trying to point out how ridiculous Eren's position was. It was sarcastic and a little bitter.But that complexity can just not be shown in a manga panel. Anime tranlated things to be what the author almost meant the scene too come across as.
1. I don't remember there was a scene where Jean and Connie faked their death? Where? Even i didn't see it in the manga. They changed to Titan, but they don't die because their neck didn't cut. They turned back as human after the curse lifted.
2. i am agree with you but not about the line. Like @darrel7493 said, those line was like polite sarcasm from Armin to Eren. I think its just how Isayama delivered it in misunderstanding way. maybe it was due to different culture or missed in translation. Maybe, in Japan, those type of lines were really seen as harsh. But, since we are not Japanese, it was difficult to digest. That's why me personally don't have issue with the lines. But i agree with you that the change in anime, made the dialogues were more comprehensive and easy to understand. Also the emotions shared by the two and the half responsibility took by Armin, showed how he still cared for Eren and not abandoned him at all, like you said, It's lovely. Kudos to Kaji Yuuki and Inoue Marina who well delivered dialogues in real emotional voices.
It is just, i found the scene where they hugged suddenly after looked at each other, really funny. I like the way they did it in manga tho. But, it is just my personal opinions.
Really really happy with how it ended, it’s refreshing to see an anime / manga actually have a closed ending, rather than continuing on for chapters and season etc.
how's anyone happy with
"why did you do it?"
"uuugh,. idk? only ymir knows"
this is like Char Aznable staging a world-ending event just to confess to his rival about his mommy issues.
@@impreza0109most of anime onlies don't pay attention probably that's why they're fine with it lol
@@impreza0109I love it when ending haters deliberately ignore things literally spoon fed in the show.
"Why did you do it?"
"To reduce the outside world to 20% so they can't attack Paradis and make my friends into heroes"
"To end the Titan curse because this was the only Possible future that Ymir sought"
"Because I wanted a free world with no humans".
But I guess if you actually have to acknowledge things shown in the anime you won't have an excuse to hate it anymore.
@@kingkiller5325 it's just bad writing tbh. there are better ways to end it.
there could've been a confrontation between Eren and Armin with clashing ideologies (when armin was deepthroated by the okapi)
We could've had more dialogue from Levi and Hange about how the pressure of being the commander made her forget that the Titans are beautiful (to her)
-Reiner's redemption arc isn't finished
-Annie and Pieck had nothing.
-Historia's pregnancy is a red herring (in a story where every little details mattered)
-Kruger's advice was for nothing
-Themes of the "sins of the father" were never realized
-Most characters are butchered, their motivations, actions and words make no sense.
-Lost girls don't add anything to the story
-The ending's lessons are terrible: don't defend yourself and your loved ones if someone wants to kill you; no matter how hard you work and try, in the end destiny resolves everything; treat your children like garbage and dgas about their future; feelings of one single person are more important than lives of millions of people; never move on from someone you are obsessed with and so on
tl;dr - But of course you won't read this because truth hurts.
There are a few valid reasons you should be unsatisfied with the ending like the fact the MC died and it’s kind of ok cause he completed all his goals but it’s just like Annie said think about yourself as well, and it’s stupid as well that he could have taken their powers they never would’ve caught up completed the rumbling then erased all their memories of the rumbling and erase titan powers with the founder keeping himself and all his friends alive and exploring the open free world, I mean that ending would be goated. And one line I didn’t like was Eren agreeing that he was a slave to freedom cause that’s an oxymoron you can’t be a slave to freedom or you would be the most free and Eren was the least free, the line just isn’t good.
the last ep showed us how much armin has grown also. the leader he wanted to be, but loves his friends also
fuck armin. i wish they chose erwin!
Armin would never thank or understand eren killing the entire world, he would be begging eren to not do it. Ending is horrid, completely destroyed his character
he never thanks eren for killing the entire world, and he still criticizes him for it. All he says is that he understands Erens feeling and reminds him that he started Erens obsession with the outside world@@justvibing9842
you didn't get it@@justvibing9842
bro led the island to death fuck kinda leading is that ? lol
atleast they clarified the ending more than the manga. also eren looks off in the shed scene
Thicc neck
He looks more handsome and not emo 😂
Wdym by off
It's way off bcs his thick neck is unrealistic
@@CrimsonRobloxhe's been chopping wood
Those added lines from Armin (about trampling the world not being a solution, that yes conflicts like this happened over and over but we still should try to find a way to understand each other, but now people will loose hope even in that and the only lesson they'd learn from that would be kill or be killed) are a perfect micro-cosmos for the entire show, wonder if it was added by the anime staff writers or Isayama himself because that whole segment was a perfect addition/change. It completely changed my view of the ending. After checking out the ending in the manga form it felt cluncky, abrubt, too few lines to really grasp what the characters meant but in the anime they expanded that whole Armin/Eren scene so much it finally clicked for me.
Pretty sure isayama wrote the script, even if he didn’t he was at least part of the scriptwriting
Iseyama wrote it.
The problem with aot is that the manga was very controversial cus of the lack of explanation of the characters motives but the anime i think fixed everything which is good but those who read the manga first and hated it will still hate the anime ending cus the manga left a bad taste in there mouth.
I bet all anime onlys enjoyed the hell out of the last episode they have never had that bad taste.
Look at chibi reviews- he says really bad things about the anime ending but the anime ending dont deserve that much hate that chibi portrays- he clearly driven by the hatred of the manga which is understable.
Im just really glad that i didnt read the manga so i could have one of the best anime ending in my life and it will stay with me forever.
Aot for me was a life experience that im glad i could witnessed in my lifetime.
The manga ending was all over. The anime did it better I still have plot related issues with the end. But that's mainly because I think some things were lazy.
Yeah, who would expect that we only need these dialogues changes and Add-on to set everything right 😂
Im sure Isayama wrote it himself.
And im sure this is what he wants to deliver in the manga, but its limited by frames.
In the manga, this whole Eren-Armin conversation are the most thing that i hate, but in the Anime, damn Goosebump....
@@fadlanibrahim9866 The problem is that everything is in the manga or anime but u have to watch it like 6 time to understand.
Like Eren says he had to order the smiling titan to kill his mom cus Berthold was meant to die instead but it was too early for him to die.
And im was just like what the hell are you talking about Eren.....
And i rewatched the ep in s4 where they showing the colossal titan attack on the first wall.
And Berthold was retransformed to human and Berthold and the smiling titan was looking at each others eye and the smiling titan just walked past him and Berthold even says ,,Huh?'' like why the titan ignored him.
The writing is just too perfect.
And the other thing that other people hating on that Eren killed his own mom.
But if he didnt do that he may get eaten or decide to not join tovthe survey core if his mom does not die.
And if he does not join the survey core the second attack by berthold and reiner would destroy whole paradise
The whole reason Reiner and Berthold didnt continue to destroy the walls cus they knew Eren has the founder.
So everything just clicks man and people just hating on it cus they dont understand nothing.
Erens emotional Scene about Mikasa is simply a HUMAN reaction. He love Mikasa. No one, who really LOVE anyone can simply give up on the other person. Even Erens Mom, before shouting on both (Eren an Mikasa) to run away, said "come back" before eaten by the titan. Dont know why people talking about "hate" it. Its simply human. No one wanna die. No one wanna get forgoten about. No one wanna leave his loves behind.
Eren has human feelings after all. I loved his childish desire to have Mikasa all for himself.
ANyway, Eren never changed, he was always like this, but like Mikasa and everyone else, people didn't want to see him like that.
For me the ending was perfect.
I'll miss this amazing anime ❤
So he basically never had character development since he stayed the same
@@samup4378 yea which to me at least makes him such a top tier mc
@@kxzrm9892lmao
@@samup4378He has a character development. Only his core character never changed. But his pov changed so his action changed, either. And that changes indeed his character. He just always attacked/ move forward. He always was stupid but he was omniscient as well. He followed his desired and concept of freedom. That pov about freedom always changed. He fell in a timeloop where he got the best solution for himself.
It’s not childish
I was really surprised to find out that the scene of eren crying about mikasa and not wanting to die was so hated. I will never understand that.
It made me laugh in relief. „Ey, there he is!“ For four years (which, to him, felt even longer) Eren had been bottling up EVERYTHING, and the dam is finally allowed to break. One last selfish rant - and less than 48 hours later everything is over.
Useless simp killed population over a girl he kissed 1 time & started crying when he about to die💀
And also consider Eren’s mind is experiencing everything from his childhood to the present at once. That selfish thought he voiced out might be coming from the child Eren.
@@ArDeeMee right? Little kid held it in for so long, and only broke down in front of his best friend, that too before making him forget everything. Give the kid a break
From what I've head from people who don't like it.
It's because the serious, focused, and cruel Eren persona was broken here.
So basically, they're upset, because Eren wasn't a complete "badass".
Honestly, Eren showcasing his feelings is a good thing. Let's remember that AoT has always had gray characters (except for that Marley guy who kept taunting Grisha). This moment demonstrates that Eren at the end of the day is human as well.
Damn, Commander Erwin can't catch a break, still missing his arm even in the afterlife. Same with Hange, not getting her eye back. After the way they both went out, you'd have thought they'd at least be made whole again after everything.
Didn't even catch that lol
At least Levi carried out his final wishes.
"Only Ymir knows"
Probably because thats how Levi remembered them looking. Whether it was a vision through the paths/afterlife or a hallucination of some sort I can't say.
They were whole. Them magically gaining the parts they sacrificed would invalidate said sacrifice. You know aborted babies don't reform in the afterlife either.
To me, the moment when Eren abandons the whole badass attitude and admits that he’s f*cking terrified is great. Reminds me a lot of that moment in the Bible where Jesus talks to God Father before being crucified and asks if there isn’t any other way. He IS God, he KNOWS that it’s his destinty, and yet he doesn’t want to die to fulfill it, because he is human as well and it goes against his very nature. Nothing pathetic in that. Eren loves Mikasa and can’t stand the idea of her finding another love, but also wants her to survive him and have the choice. Humans are permanently contradicting ourselves, it’s not bad writing, it’s reality
You know something i would like to see ,eren conversation with others instead just mikasa and armin.
I can picture Eren saying to jean to take care mikasa with bitterness and jealously and saying a farewell with a punch because most be hard because deep down even he will like to mikasa never forget about him 💔 , still recognize that is not good for her to live alone at least for 10 years which clearly is a lie going against is own desires.
Also to reiner saying to him keep living and that he doesn't have the right to take his own life until he try to atone his sins.
To Annie to take care of armin because he doesn't know how to fight and he just pretend to be getting hit by armin
Ask forgiveness to levi for being a huge idiot and levi just putting more salt to the wound but in the end levi saying to him he soon will be with him so he doesn't end up making another mess in the after life (probably hell)
@@jesusfontalvo703bro , cant imagine he will say Jean that . I still think its not jean, but npc
@user-df8lp9zq8s There is a big difference between "want to" and "obligated to" , Eren will definitely wouldn't anybody to stay with mikasa but in his nature to cared deeply about his friends and love ones. That's why he said the big lie of "at least 10 years," but he said it anyway because that's a selfless wish to mikasa being to keep moving forward, but either way it is cool. If the case that he was actually him, i hope Jean didn't make a move on mikasa at least for 13 years. Also, that doesn't change the fact that mikasa will still love forever, eren. Or maybe it is jeans with his son and simply mikasa holding
I thought the moment after the punch when Eren cried and looked like a child was authentic and appropriate for the scene. Eren himself said his mind exists simultaneously at all times. In that one moment, he was a powerless, hurt boy, a teenager in puberty with feelings on speed.
Eren's breakdown was a brilliant writing twist. He is a kid, he is by no means an adult, and all this horror they went through since Shiganshina fell it makes you forget how young these people really are. When faced with his own demise and that he will die and not be around, that is horrifying, scary and depressing. It's a cry for help. Holding onto not wanting things to change, holding onto not wanting people to move on because you love them. Is it selfish? Absolutely. That's how humans are.
That cry Armin let out when seeing Erens severed head fucking broke me. I knew it was coming but the Japanese voice actress went over the top with it and that shit hit. 😢
I watched this scene repeatedly.
it reminded me of when my family member died, you just cant believed it, the person is gone
@@marcflores3503cringe
@@gamingthisera6339I believe it
@@huniverso armin scream reminded me of my family reaction to the death
Just a few line changes, and they really cleared everything up. No need for the hour long video "This video will change how you see Eren" just so that people can clear up the misunderstandings. Glad that Isayama's message is finally fully realized.
Also the added post credit scene really did give the whole thing a satisfying conclusion.
In the manga when eren said he does not know why he did it we can see his father pronounce the words "you are free" (8:58). I don't know what were the original way it was written but it could be a a subtle way of the author to tell us that eren is indeed slave to freedom like he said in the adaptation, by using the same words Ymir was told before being chased in the woods : You are free.
Wow, i didn't think about that...
Is Grisha mouthing it in English or Japanese? I’d guess he would phrase it as “omae wa jyuu”
wow, nice analysis
for me, the only thing I hated the most about the original ending is how the conversation was done. For example, the reveal of Eren killing 80 percent of humanity being moved to the end, Armin reacting to it like any normal person would hearing that and the extra added lines. I didn't like how he was so passive about it in the manga. But other than that, the ending is amazing it was just the conversation that killed it for me.
I don't really understand why people call Eren's crying scene pathetic...
What I see is a teenager that was destined to wipe out most of humanity and see and feel every step of that, that knows that he's gonna die...but wishes to be with his friends and most of all - the woman he loves.
He never admitted it, but finally when he faced the fact that he's going to die in front of his friends, and that he doesn't wanna die - he confronts the reality that he will never be with Mikasa.
He's childish for saying that he doesn't want her to get over him for a decade, but it makes sense of such a person that faces such things with his immaturity, to say that!
I swear half the people that criticize this scene, would've absolutely said the same thing if they were in Eren's shoes.
It's immature, but it's humane.
I personally see the cabin scene as his memory gift to Mikasa, where they pretended to run away.
In the paths you don't have time, so this could very well be for months that they "played" this.
For both Mikasa, and Eren.
I wanna make sure I didn t misunderstand, didn't eren do all this shit hoping that having a common enemy would unite different people in a common goal overcoming war and hate?
@@RevolverOcelot94 I think it was to stop the outside world from being capable of attacking paradise/Eren's friends so that Eren's friends could live long lives and be seen as heroes. In being seen as heroes, peace can be achieved for a time.
@@RevolverOcelot94basically yeah. I imagine he tried doing things without the Rumbling, and Paradis was destroyed (Marley was already capable of fighting titans). Even starting the Rumbling as a show of force but not attacking would also just cause Marley to want to attack first and they might win. So immediately using the Rumbling to attack without much time to prepare was the best way to ensure its effectiveness, which in turn guarantees Paradis survives at all.
But in truth, Eren didn't really want to start the Rumbling. Though a part of him did. Basically he sees the outside world in general as his enemies, but not everyone in specific. And faced with his future actions born out of the need for revenge, he grows softer towards the innocents. So when he says that he kills 80% of the world, that was the LEAST he could manage, he would have done less if possible.
Without the rumbling, Paradis and his friends suffer and die, with the Rumbling everyone else dies, through his final gambit to sever his ties to his friends and sacrifice himself so that they can stop the rumbling he can save his friends and also spare at least 20% of the world.
In this case his friends are likely guaranteed safety as being the saviors of the world, and hopefully having people outside Paradis would create a world that MUST learn to coexist, rather than only one nation living alone and never learning to let go of their hatred for others. This shows with Levi giving kids candy that the world is coming together to rebuild. So it does end up being a best possible outcome given the criteria Eren was aiming for.
Though, whose to say that there was a better way if Eren was willing to sacrifice his friends (though he technically already did, given his reaction to Shasha's death, almost like that was one sacrifice that he couldn't avoid without further sacrifices).
But I think the ending is supposed to show 2000 years passing, of which at least a 1000 of peace before the futuristic war starts. So he was successful at holding off war for a very long time, which is pretty good considering he was only aiming for his friends lifetime.
But this is all my interpretation, but I think it tracks with what the story implies.
@RevolverOcelot94 No, this idea was already said by Pixis, but Eren disagreed by it. He said that those ideas were like bedtime stories, to good to be true. common enemy to unite people was Marley propaganda, using Paradis as enemy.
What Eren did was creating heroes / saviors who saved the world and people will owed them (SC) which turned people to sided with the heroes, and they will listened to what heroes wanted as a "reward" to save the world. This were a concept that already did by Marley with Tybur and King Fritz, "created" Helios the Hero. Also in Uprising Arc manga, Armin already explained this concepts as Erwin's plan (the scene was when Hange and Levi tortured Sannes and co, while Eren cs talked about how they were not good people again. This scene was not in the anime). So, basically, rumbling is inspired by King Fritz and Erwin's plan but with worldwide scale.
They spent 4 years on that hut. The last 4 years of Eren's curse gift
When Eren says that his head is messed up and there is no past or future in the paths. Reminds of something the Tenth Doctor said in a Doctor Who episode with the weeping angels. "Time is one wibbley wobbley, timey whimey stuff."
Yea, same here. I had a similar thought reading the manga.
I tried to be anime only since 2013 but I was spoiled by youtuber thumbnails posting about the manga ending... So I gave up and read the last chapter and the new content that was added and I didn't think it was bad, just rushed and that maybe the translations were off. I hoped they wouldn't change it, just polish it and I'm glad that's what they did. I love Eren so much because he isn't a near perfect shonen protagonist, he's flawed and he made mistakes on his path that he paid for with his life and the love he and Mikasa shared. He cries and reveals how scared he is around those he truly cared about. These characters are so dear to me, I will be thinking of all of them for 10 years at least! 😂
The female vocals in the credits song is Mikasas VA! With eren VA vocals as well
Isayama-sensei in interviews said that he considers the anime the finished product while the manga is the testing phase. Hence, it is most likely that studio MAPPA listened to Isayama-sensei suggestions in order to rework, fix, and improve from what he delivered two years ago in the manga.
And, even the music played while the ending credits rolled out was as well a top-notch decision.
about that scene that everyone hated, isayama actually said that when he wrote that scene he thought to himself, “eren is back.”
The Truth is, People Wasn't Ready for this Ending, The Proper End for a Masterpiece...
Honestly, anime ending helped make more sense to all the open questions in it. Essentially Eren seeked for freedom, but it was impossible as he was fated to die no matter what. He was slipping out of that cage of 'freedom' by killing everyone. Ymir just wanted to even the scales... her curse essentially came from hatred on her beloved that betrayed her time and time again without any escape as a slave consort with her three daughters. She needed a release that she wasn't allowed with her own hands: Lover killing another. Even when Ymir's curse is not there, it truly shows that the cycle wasn't just aroun Ymir's curse, but in whole of humanity. Hatred, love and grudges are inherently linked in humans that cannot be erased. Another rile up, biased narrative, could turmoil another tragedy.
Never read the manga as I wanted to watch the anime till the end. It was simply heart wrenching and yet sombre at the end. Really a generational anime series and I was sobbing at some scenes.
Introduced this to my eldest daughter and she’s starting on season 1. Loving it!
How old is she? Mine‘s 10, and I just like other‘s input on this. I‘m tending to show her this at around 14.
@@ArDeeMee she’s 13. And she managed to binge watched 52 episodes in 3 days. 😂 her fav right now is Levi.
@@CaptTsubasa09 Sounds good. Also, of course it’s Levi. 😂
Appreciate the comparisons. I was an anime only so its nice to see the differences and similarities.
Same.
one reason i really liked erens crying scene was because it starts off really silly and then immediately turns disturbing. good contrast 💯💯
Fantastic video, thank you very much!
Glad you liked it!
Keep up with the good work man. 👍
Making the buildings futuristic was a great change so the conflict that destroyed paradis happens generations down the line not 10 to 20 years lol
just like the song title, probably between 2000-20000 years after rumbling
The manga is more like 100 years later or a bit less. Mikasa also shown died by old age beforehand
but in manga shown that Mikasa died by old age. If she died in 80 yo, that would be around 60 years after Eren died and there also possibility that war happened 100 years after Mikasa died. That would be 160 years, not 10 to 20 years.
Personally, I think the ending was just fine in both Manga and Anime 🤷🏻♂️
As a manga reader, Im happy to see that people appreciated the ending, Im glad now that Im not alone 😢
People who didn’t like the ending convinced themselves Eren was just a merciless mastermind.
Those who did like it realised Eren is still just a child who stumbled across the power of gods and just wanted to give his friends the world.
I still just hate how many loses Levi had.. he lost everyone that was close to him, lost his leg, fingers, eye, etc. He never caught a break.
I always thought that he started the rumbling because "if someone tries to take away my freedom, i won't hesitate to take theirs". I always interpreted this line as "if someone tries to kill me, i won't hesitate to kill them". And he did that ever since he saved Mikasa in season 1, it's who he is. And since he knew what was coming. The rumbling was the only way to stop the enemy from destroying his home.
You mentioned the strong Gibhli atmosphere, YES! That last shot of the kid and their dog gave me such Nausicaa vibes. ♥️
Nice video, thank you
Awesome vid. Thanks 🙏
Glad you liked it!
I've heard so many people talking about the ending being disappointing, but I have yet to hear a concrete reason as to why.
Levi being alive after taking a thunder rod was dumb and it wasn't like he was needed for the story at all? This was just flat out not needed and stupid.
@@youare5907you would've been content with an off screen death for one of the most beloved characters in the series? he is literally an ackermann, the name itself carries plot armor
@216MALACHI It wasn't off screen, we see him get blown up.
It's because their headcanon didnt happen. Also many people wanted eren to be with historia after killing his whole friends lmao
Im looking forward to the videos in the coming decades breaking down and dissecting this masterpiece...
I like the spoiler alert for the breaking bad comparison segment. 😊
I think Eren only laughed because of what Sasha said. I interpret Eren saying "I tested it" as in "I tried to change the circumstances so the rumbling wasn't necessary, but I didn't succeed". The rumbling after all WAS his wish. He says multiple times that he wanted to do it, that he wanted to level everything. He said it to Ramzi and he said it again to Armin. Add to this what Eren was thinking when he walked through Marley in the first special "I imagine we never found a way to safe Paradis", which can only mean that he was trying to find ways to safe Paradis without the Rumbling. As he didn't find any, the Rumbling was the only way to reach his goal. And he knew that. I guess what I wanted to say is: In the end what Eren saw when he touched Historia was the result of his choices and not the result of some invisible force preventing him from choosing a different path. He was free. His freedom led to the Rumbling. His extraordinaire wish for freedom (being a "slave" to freedom) only made his choices easier.
So because he was born the way he was, the rumbling happening at his hands was inevitable?
@@rokurro7251 Yes. "You did what you did because you are what you are" is true for every person ever. Even for you. If you would have the same choice ten times and the parameters are the same every time I'm sure you would make the same choice ten times. The same is true for Eren, the only thing that could have prevented him from doing the Rumbling would be a change in circumstances. The question if this is "freedom" in this case is a brutally philosophical one. If one were to say "no" then no human ever had, has or will have freedom of choice, because the result will always be determined by the circumstances.
@@arsehole3528Save, not safe
This is why in one scene, someone comments that Eren is the absolutely worst person to get his hands on the power of the Founding Titan. I forgot who it was exactly, Levi or Reiner maybe, maybe someone else.
@@mrgalaxy396 It was Reiner in the season 2 finale. "The one person in this world I would not want to have this power, Eren, is you"
Thank you man❤
I liked the ending it was perfect.
Remember people, Eren is only 19 years old. 😂
You mean the same 19-year-old who killed two grown men when he was young, planned a coup against his military, genocodied the entire world, murdered his mother? yeah man just a "19-year-old". No 19-year-old ever acts like this or anyone as a matter of fact.
Aye man so am I. I grew up with this show fr so I can say that eren being a slave to freedom is supernatural. If it wasn’t and without aoe than you would not have un answered questions like why did his dad inject him.
Eren with supernatural abilities controlled the whole thing. He used supernatural powers to convince his dad to do his will and sent a Titian to kill his mom jus to kill everyone as a 19 year old.
When you put it like that you start to realize 19 is old enough to not be a kid and to be accountable for all your actions . He deserved to die because he was a slave . He hated slavery and just wanted freedom, death was that for him.
@@thejellybeangamer3284 I think you missed the point here. Puberty ends when the brain chemistry finally settles down - somewhere around 22 years old.
Eren learned that his days were counted at age 15, that fucks up your psyche.
The ending was phenomenal loved it all the way and I feel kind of sad now that it's ended. Like closing a hell of a long chapter in my life as well since I started to watch from the beginning. This was so emotional in so many levels and all the crying and "goodbye" stuff just broke me down man. I can't believe it's ended. Ofc I read the manga about over a year ago but wasn't ready for the music and the animation being so beautifully done and well queued. You can really tell they went all out and small changes but not big ones, well adapted to the manga. They really put much love in it for us fans in this one.
Also before I forget, Ymir found a large tree and got her titan powers when she was looking for shelter. The ending reminds me of that so much, like full circle or something, the kid finding a large tree in a post apocalyptic world where Eren's tree was. Never thought of as much until now.
Never read the manga but good to know there wasnt much difference between the two and thats good. All I'll say is that this was beautifully well written and produce.
For me,the credit scene really hits hard, the world will never be in peace so long as human are in it...
I’m currently downloading them now and i’m can’t wait to watch them.
So hyped!!
That was it - the scene where Eren did break down? That was the scene the manga readers hated? What? That was one of my fav. scenes of the final part. That scene showed Eren just all the maks off - it was humanizing him, showing how he actually feels and what he truly wants. Seeing this scene I was so happy that they put it in there - I am actually mind blown that the manga reader hated this scene lmao. Fucking iditons hahaha who cares - we got a masterpiece of an ending to the anime, is it a complete perfect ending, no but it is absolutely amazaing and a masterpiece imo. I am really glad and happy it ended this way. AoT will be my fav. shows and I am happy that I can go back and re-watch it in it's entirety knowing the ending will be really satisfying too.
If only there was buildup to his "true" feelings
@@annett5 There are like 138 chapters that literally build up to this but you need to read them not just look at the drawings XD
@@annett5 other than roughly 6 breakdowns throughout the series and the obviousness of the facade he was wearing throughout the whole season, no there wasnt any buildup
@@GiovanniGeoNo need for build-up
@@jesseowenvillamor6348 that was my point, what build-up do you need for a totally in-character death-bed reaction?
I understand it like this. Eren knows that wars will never end (as shown in the epilogue). Therefore to save his people he wants to kill the titan powers, because otherwise his people will always be targeted by the rest of the world. Armin understands him and tries to reason with him that he doesn't need the rumbling. But Eren says "why would they believe us" (shown when the Eldians DO lose their power but are still threatened by the Marleyans) and Armin says they just have to convince them / talk it out. That argument isn't enough for Eren and so he sends out the rumbling to reset the world. Thing is though that the ending makes them both kinda right. Armin still has to travel around doing foreign politics to convince people that Eldians are good. With the world destroyed no country can retaliate and wipe out the now powerless Eldians and so Eren is right. Whether the rumbling was needed or not we don't know. If titans existed in the modern day and all lived on an island. Would the governments decide to send nuclear weapons and wipe them out? It would definitely be suggested.
Also Eren IS controlled by Ymir he sees the future but can't avoid it. So did HE really send titans to kill his mom or did Ymir force him to? Just because he knows it's going to happen doesn't mean he can stop it the timeline is already set in stone.
I just wanna say thank you for the spoiler warning on breaking bad. People don't usually do that for older shows
i love the changes especially about ymir waiting for someone to end the cycle, which is mikasa
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The part of the ending that still rocks me (after reading the manga and watching the anime finale last night) is the continuity of war and the cycle of violence. Even though Armin and friends had some peace in their lifetimes, it actually made my stomach drop and I felt hopeless knowing that the cycle of pain and killing just continued, forgetting the horrible past they came from - it fits PERFECTLY with the themes of the show that it explored, but it makes me feel sick almost, like our characters suffered so much for almost no reason (even though there were A LOT of reasons and a broken kid with too much power) - I still think it was an amazing adaption, one of the greatest stories ever told
6:38 I didn't read the manga ending, so when I watch it for the first time. That scene, I love it, it breaks his facade, in the end he still human although he inherit the founding titan powers.
I understand people hated Eren especially in the end, imagining yourself as teenager suddenly having memories as far as 2000 years with most of it filled with war combine with future sight of every possible way of how your friends died it is very very hard, Eren basically dangling in his last sanity point of trusting everything on his friends hands
How could Eren erase Mikasa's memories from the 4 years in the Path? She's an Ackerman and even the Founding Titan with a direct Noble user could never do it.
How could Eren direct Dina to his mother when he can only send memories to former Attacking Titan carriers? Or was he really in the past and could use the Founding abilities there?
I was really glad we got to have a moment of OG Eren with Armin when he broke down about how he felt about Mikasa. I enjoyed AoT S4, but one thing it missed was OG Eren. After he touched hands with Historia and saw his future, he wasn't the same anymore and it kind of felt like we had a new character in the body of an old one for the majority of S4. But the overall play of S4 was done really well!
After reading the manga ending I was honestly so emotional I was scared to watch it animated and just go into an existential crisis over how intensely it hit me. Can’t believe we’ve been able to see such a monumental story come to an end in the manga and the anime, one of the favourite pieces of writing, no matter the medium or genre. I remember people being upset with the original manga ending but I loved that there wasn’t an easy way to tie up the
conflict. I also liked the scene with Eren showing his original personality is still in there, and how much he did love Mikasa the whole time… it really feels like a young man struggling so deeply and realistically with losing the person he loves. I found the anime ending gorgeous too and such a beautiful way to tie everything together. It was poignant and I appreciate that there are no easy answers in the story and the cycle of war is realistic. You summed it better than I could’ve!
Thank you
You're welcome
I’m thinking back on how long it took for this anime to come to full fruition, upon watching it from the beginning again you can see how much love mappa poured into every single frame, it’s not like other anime’s where a lot of the details are lost in translation. It’s a work of art from beginning to end, I do think the animation looked a little clunky on the last two episodes though, kinda wish they didn’t go with the berserker animation style for that
Mappa really spoon-fed us all just because some manga readers were illiterate and completely misunderstood the ending. And now they felt losing so they're just coping more and more as more anime onlys praising the ending.
I don't see any counter-version in the original. The Eldians did not finish off enemies who deserved death, and decades later they paid for it. Moral of AoT - finish enemy to the end, and do not listen humanists, otherwise enemy will kill everyone you love. The Yegerists were right All this time.
What your saying makes no sense Eren wiped most of Eidians outside the wall. The conflict has nothing to with Eidians or Marley because titans don't exist. The problem is humans.
@@Temujin18S I meant that Eren should have been prevented from destroying people of the outside world, while the titans still existed.
Then, in the future, there would not have been a war that destroyed inhabitants of Paradise Island.
That's what I meant.
@@user-oj4ll2bf6k Fair enough
@@user-oj4ll2bf6k There would have been war again regardless of what Eren chose to do, that was inevitable, he simply wanted the best outcome he could muster for his friends, while indulging in his desire to decimate but ultimately he had very little control over how things would play out, as he explains.
An eye for an eye isn't as effective as it at first seems and while understandable, it is just too simplistic, I'm not sure what came first but, "An eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind" sums it all up really.
The flowers on Mikasa's death bed symbolizes purity proving the fact she loved Eren till her last breath and never married anyone else. And the scarf that mikasa wore given by Eren truly symbolizes love according to Japanese culture. And talking about the scene where Mikasa is visiting the grave along with a man, I truly believe it's Armin and in anime they even portrayed a woman along with her child behind them standing as if waiting for the man who's with mikasa which suggests it's Annie with her adopted child which further solidifies everything..
she married jean you dingleberry
@@salaarxd748 yeah, in jean's dream you floozy
@@salaarxd748 Nope never married
Cope Its pretty clear that its her kid it's either
A. A random guy as her husband
Or
B. Jean
And I just went back to clarify to make sure and yeah The baby has black hair
You know like Mikasa
Funny how Annie and armin are both Blonde's
I get it you want Mikasa to only have ever loved eren but She obviously did find love again at some point and that's a good thing she deserves to be happy
I have never cried at an ending like this until i read the finale. Eren revealing his love for Mikasa, not wanting to die, and wanting her to not stop loving him, suddenly made everything hurt. I was reading in bed and teared up so bad my nose got completely blocked and i couldn't breath through my nose. Had to get up to clear it, husband woke up asking what's wrong.
I wished so much that eren could have had a happy ending with mikasa. His methods messed up for sure, but i can't bring myself to hate him. Left a very hollow feeling in my chest. I was glad that Levi survived despite being wheelchair bound. Also glad Annie lived. I always felt that she was not the villain she was perceived to be in the female titan arc.
Isayama did this on purpose. he didnt make eren show any feelings before that scene to make fans cry. No one knew if eren loved her back and now the ending just makes more sad that they both loved each other but cant be together
its very epic to see collosal titans throwing hands. I always thought they were incapable of actual combat
I just knew they were saving 13 no fuyu for the end
Comparison well done. 👏
Since season one I thought this anime will end with the main characters infiltrating into the titans' boss cave and killing him. Didnt expect more humans in the world and a metaphore on human cycle of conflict but I kinda predictdd the boss fight xd
Wait... _That's_ what people hated about the ending? I thought that ppl hated it cuz it was a bit unsatisfying but, they hated it because Eren finally showed his true petty feelings about Mikasa??
If the anime "fixed" issues the manga had then theirs a lot you can hate.
One example being killing Levi off just to bring him back for what? For the beast titan to randomly sprout out and die?
Sasha laughing when eren says he wants his friends to live long healthy lives.
Eren using the founding titans powers to remove the ability to become titans why? We know paradise island will form a army and eren thinks paradise island > the world, so why not give them a slight edge? He also has the founders powers so it's not like he can't remove all the cons of having titan powers like a short lifespan.
But also yea eren having any feelings but family love for her was weird af.
So glad they fixed it. Amazing ending 😊
Hey, just want to let you know that amazon jp released AOT final season part 3 in episodic format and fans realize that there's some fixes here and there compared to the original. Maybe you can make a comparison video about it
It’s exactly how I felt! When he did that I was like “there he is, he’s still Eren”
maybe im just weird but i always kinda interpreted the ending exactly how it was in the anime. Just a couple dialogue changes that expanded on what was truly meant. I eren and armin scene in the manga was always kinda weird with armin thanking eren for what he did but I took it as him thanking him for his sacrifice regardless if that sacrifice was one he agreed with. But at face value it truly just looks like armin was agreeing with what eren did which is just not true and felt weird if you didn't put deeper thought into it. Im glad they explained what armin was actually trying to say in the anime. Im really happy with the ending, im so glad they didn't do an AOE... reading all the AOE theories (even the cooler ones) always felt off from what the characters needed, deserved, or were growing toward, but thats just me. I hope Isayama sees that he made a great ending to this amazing story
Wasn't the author the one to give direction for the scenes? Give the man his fair do, Man. You make an amazing series and you still get trashed on for making an ending that people ain't like in the most stressful situation an artist can be in--Shounen jump (I think?).
The author is really involved in making aot so i would think he changed how the ending convo went
Music please? The one that’s playing in the first minute or so.
Question!
In ending credits scene, after it showed the destruction of the future paradis island, it showed the a man standing in front of the tree eren is buried under. Do you think that tree is deliberately meant to look similar to the tree ymir fell into??
Maybe it’s just me?😅
I was wondering if it may be hinting of history of titans repeating in that way as well?
It is a direct parallel yes, the tree the boy is about to enter at the end is the one Eren was buried beside, the entire ending of the show really is trying to talk about the inevitable and cyclical nature of violence and history but with also some hope from people like Armin who want to at least try and make things better.
I feel like some of that got through as yes, the world destroyed itself again, but this child entering the tree isn't being hunted like the last, simply exploring what was left behind, so somewhere along the line some change was affected no matter how small and could mean the next person to bring that power into the world won't be haunted by such a horrible past.
In the anime, the biggest change was the revelation of Eren's true motivation and goal on why he did all the things he did using the power of the Founding Titan and the Attack Titan, influencing the past to make sure the right timeline's events should happen that leads to The Rumbling... but as the anime revealed, Eren can't change some events that will happen even though he tried many times to alter them... in the end, unlike in the manga Eren's goal was just following the path that was set for him by Ymir, but in the anime Eren's true intention was revealed as "he was just an idiot who wants to level everything", and so repairing the broken contradictory of Eren's character aka "Eren's Character Assassination by Isayama" that most fans of the series were clamoring to change...
also want to point out that the anime makes erens power in the paths a lot clearer. Eren explains he experiences past present and future all at the same time and sees the various futures through memories. he uses the memories to test the future restults and with that is able to choose which path to take in the real world by sending those memories, hence why he tells armin that he can't undo the bloodshed anymore. the future got set and eren even admits hes a slave to freedom because the outcome he started the rumbling for is freedom for eldia and his friends.
imo hope this finally puts to bed the obsessive idea that eren was in "stuck" some time loop 🙄
Except Ymir shouldn't need 2000 years to be freed if everything is simutaneous. She is literally linked to all Eldians.
This is the ending that people were whining sucked?! 😭
It was literally the same ending
@@YourLoveableBard yup
In french, the Dina's revelation is translated in the anime same as in the manga.
I need to know if there's anything about the Crawling Titan. I had a guess a long time ago that it was a baby that was transformed into a pure titan.
Timeskip Jean looks a bit like Snake, Makes me wanna see a Metal Gear anime by Mappa
We should give the credit for this masterpiece of a finale to HAYASHI and all the staff who worked rather than MAPPA
For a moment Now lets think thats what happened. Mikasas entire character is built around eren, her loyalty and love for him. Will mikasa love her husband the same way she loved eren. Is it fair for her husband that mikasa wears her scalf all the time which her ex lover gave her. Is it fair for her husband that mikasa goes to her first lovers grave all the time. Is it fair for her husband that she brings her child at her ex lovers grave. Is it fair for her husband that she was burried next to erens grave and not his? Is it really fair for her husband? Me personally i would not want thats why i think the possibilty of her being married to someone else is really low. Even after her death with the new ending song we see mikasa being united with eren in her afterlife but not her husband. Now ask yourself when all of her life has revolved around eren and even after eren all she thinks about is eren, does it makes sense that she married someone ?
Personally I think she isnt married to someone but thats in the manga ending, if we are talking about the anime-ending which is hinting that she got married.... Then yes she might have been
To answer all your question, the most probable answer to that is she was married to Jean, I mean it makes sense. We all know Mikasa will always have Eren first in her heart and will always come back to him when she dies, Jean knows all of this, he just got to accept that he will always come second to her, theres no other way around it
I mean just look at Jack and Rose.... They did it first 👍
Pretty sure Mikasa never married or had children if you go by her burial symbolism.
We can also assume that the guy with her was Armin and his kid with Annie. With the later scene is everyone's descendants. Showing his friends are still together and are like a family.
Yeah She didn't get married in the first place and in a draft even Armin had same hairstyle and in the manga it was very CLEARLY shown that Mikasa's wrist was still hidden which means she didn't pass down her crest so that kid is adopted and as shown in the ending song Eren and Mikasa got reunited in the afterlife which also proves that she didn't get married and stayed single
@@dranillaasrapti9333Throughout the series it was shown Jean gets irritated by how much Mikasa loves Eren and Mikasa kept loving Eren till the end so that guy is anyone but Jean and even if he is they aren't together he's just accompanying her
Even in the anime she didn't get married she was literally buried next to Eren and as shown in the ending song they got reunited in the afterlife which also proves that she didnt get married and stayed single
It was a lot better in the anime.
I stand by the fact that I liked the scene where Eren has a breakdown. Some people said og Eren is gone but I never agreed with that assessment. He was still there and he still had feelings and wants but he hid it behind this facade of someone who doesn’t care. Eren has always cared, his biggest issue is the fact he’s basically a slave to fate. I finally remembered who this character was when he has his breakdown and I think said breakdown was really necessary. People needed to be reminded that this person is simply a person making choices and whether or not those choices are right, that doesn’t stop him from being a person with wants. Barely any people would be 100% okay with killing off a majority of people.
it is absolutely amazing that in the after credits when you see paradis island developing and then you see an airplane crashing into a tower this immediatly reminds me of 09/11. This is such a brilliant hint to our time (events that we personally lived through and can directly relate to) and makes it hit even harder! An absolute masterpiece!
It didn’t crash into a building, it was shot down. Super boring war stuff. It’s more about the contrast of the peaceful tree, and the wild explosion.
@@ArDeeMee yes I rewatched it- you are right!
@@redroseibarahime8755 =3
Anyone knows how to ask the author who Mikasa ended up with ? Because if any of you rewatching this episode knows that it's heart killing especially during Mikasa's scene and the music. By knowing Mikasa's ending, the only thing uncertain in this ending, can put each of you in peace. Why ?
Because Eren got a closure, Armin got a closure.
But Mikasa ? Just normal ending. Did she live a good life ? Did she feel heartbroken each time she lived with another man seeing how she can live with Eren (considering she didn't remove the scarf)
Somehow mappa made it more emotional with that ost's man💔
loved the manga ending. But i do think the anime version is made to be liked by a higher amount of people. I also like the anime version more. The eren armin dialog is actually my favorit scene in the show so im glad that upgraded it a bit in the anime
I remember being really disappointed by the ending mostly because it felt really rushed and I think the anime fixed a lot of the problems.
Some parts still feel kind of comical (I will never like that panel of Mikasa kissing Erens cut off head) but it truly felt like a great ending now
Yeah that's one thing that really bothered me in the ending. The final interaction between Mikasa and Eren was way too rushed, that scene was the finale of the entire action sequence and it just needed more breathing room. Her kissing his severed head was tragic, but imagine if they had a little dialogue before the sword fell. Mikasa refraining from killing him even after all the things he did, despite knowing what needs to be done. Eren then reminds her what needs to be done, maybe saying sorry or professing his love, leading up to the kiss and then a little goodbye between the two as Mikasa pulls the strength in her to strike down her one true love and Eren being in bliss for finally acheiving the ultimate freedom and being freed from the insane world he was a part of since birth. Something like that would have brought a lot more gravity to that scene, their final interaction and Mikasa's mourning in the scenes thereafter that much heavier. But hey, can't have everything in an otherwise great finale.
@@mrgalaxy396 That would have unnecessarily dragged out an already dragged out fight, and been pure melodrama. They already had their dialogues, Mikasa even had her four years of being with him. If she‘d stopped, she would have forced Eren to kill her instead.
He didn’t know whether any of his friends would even survive the fight, so „she made it“ is a good last thought to have.
I agree the kiss seemed a little weird and i was NOT expecting it. I wish they didnt kiss bruh
@@yntao 5 second rule.
@@ArDeeMee😂 that’s wrong lmao
12:30 I immediatly thought of breaking bad when hearing him say that 😂
Eren mentioned he wanted Mikasa pine for him for at least 10 years and yet she pined over him for the remainder of her life.
I thought that was beautiful
She married Jean few years after the anime made it very obvious for you 😂😂😂
No she didnt
@@TienNguyen-ky4dx It’s ambivalent. Black hair isn’t unique, just like red hair. You can read it like that, or not. Both are fine.
For aguments sake she did get with jean. He spends his whole life knowning hes second place to a dead man. And even in death mikasa is laid to rest with eren.
@@NotAnAmerican You kids are way too young for this conversation. Grieving the loss of a loved one, and then moving on with your life is the most normal thing in the world.
I laughed when eren said that he wanted Mikasa to pine for him for at least 10 more years