Learned this tactic in law school and continue to do so as a practicing attorney. It’s a classic lawyer speak. That statement was meant to look as if it could mean two different things. So, when there’s more investigation into it, the person who wrote it can rightfully say that he was telling the truth.
The other disturbing part of both Morrison and Evans "stepping down" from ministry is the immediate or imminent action to place their children into pastoral positions. These churches are not an inheritance for man, but a holy trust and a bond to Jesus Christ. Without knowing the facts, those family members need to heal and recover from the shock and betrayal of trust. The congregants need time to renew from this intense bodyblow. Trustees and decons need the Holy Spirit to guide them in their ministry to restore the churches and bring them back to God.
I understood from his statement that he Tony, convey to his children that he was stepping down.. however, I don't believe that he told them what it was!!!
I said the moment I heard Tony Evans stepping down there is far more to the story than what he was saying? When I recently heard he was remarried, I was living out of state and did realize his 1st wife had passed. After finding who he married, I know instantly something is not right and will be revealed sooner rather than later.
We all want wholesome pastors and sadly these pastors skip over what the Bible says for the men who hold the Pastor office. You’re to be blameless, no scandal, husband of 1 wife ( no divorce. After death is ok) have his own house in order, meek, no anger issues , and so forth. That why many can not fill this spot.
These Pastors need to fall down on their knees and repent to God and the people they have crushed. I just left a Ministry where the Pastor was narcissistic, verbally abusive, hated black women, and let Jezebel ran the show, who wasn't even his Wife. I am heartbroken, but I will heal and move on eventually.
I was giving him credit for steping down because I did not know. I retract. Shout out to the Elders. Most importantly, thank God for moving these Mega Pastors out of their positions. We Are Tired of the Mess.
I was a member of OCBF for a few years many years ago. While a member, Pastor Evans was very vocal and clear that, if you’re a leader in the church and you commit “sexual sin”, you must come before the church congregation, publicly confess your sin, and ask for forgiveness from the church. Then you are to step down from your position and be “restored”. And after this period is over, you can be officially restored to your leadership position. This public restoration also happened before the church. I was still a member when I saw this happen during a church service for some member of leadership who had cheated on his wife (the restoration part). So for Pastor Evans not to hold himself up to the same standard he has required of others is the problem and the hypocrisy of it all. If he had an affair and cheated on Lois while she was alive (which is the rumor), and covered it up for years while requiring his leaders, elders, children and deacons to do otherwise. Then, that is truly shameful, and he deserves the consternation he is getting.
Tony Evans should’ve retired, and kept it moving. People do wrong, until they get caught. His son needs to move in silence. He is basically 😅begging people to turn a blind eye…indirectly.
The engagement I saw, so I never got the impression they didn't know. They came on stage before it all happened and held hands. I'm praying he does what God wants and doesn't hide. Now I dont believe Lois cleaned up anything...no
I'm a lover and an admirer of Pastor Evans but I was surprised to hear that this "sin" was committed some time ago( and I.was taken back by it)so why now do something about it and not before which isn't in keeping with his character.
For me it was no brainer that he was being blackmailed... and somebody out there somewhere knows something he obviously doesn't want to get out... If his behavior is over 30 years old, in my opinion, it has to be something pretty bad... and I'm not sure I'm buying that it wasn't a crime, because after 30 years, what else would you be afraid of getting out but criminal Behavior.
I honestly think he wanted to walk away from the ministry and focus on the new wife if he did something most likely it’s pertaining unto the first wife
These people who are always posting their "perfect" families are the very one's who are messed up mentally and emotionally. They are also the one's who are hiding all kinds of skeletons 😮
I bet any amount of money, this new fiancé surfaced as a decoy, hoping it would work to slow down rumors. You are right, somebody was fixing to hit the “live button” & tell all.
I agree! Upon reading the vague statement of his stepping down, the word "obfuscating" came to mind: to make unclear, hard to understand, especially deliberately. So sad. It's obvious to me, as you pointed out, there's no repentance without clarity.
All people have to do is to compare what these fake pastor teach w/the Word of GOD. People will continue to be deceived by being lazy. When you stand before GOD you will not be able to say "I did not know". Wake Up people.
I hate to spread rumors but I heard on another UA-cam channel the reason that Tony Evans stepped down and yes it was blackmail from a certain community.
I feel that the Elders should have brought Paster Evans before the church body, spelling out the purpose of the sudden stepping down. Pastor Evans, then could have addressed the gathering of saints and visitors. Whatever is in the butter milk will alternately rise to the top. "Let us all pray."
Mr. Evans is being blackmailed!! He is trying to get in front of it! Will probably will be made public .😢🙏🏽 Romans 3 no one is righteous, but he is disqualified from ever being a pastor again!! Titus 1:7. That’s why the Bible states not to trust in man. Jeremiah 17:5
Not sure if I am going on off track right but I attended Hillsong London a number of years and his famous daughter use to be a guess speaker, never connected with her sermons at all. young folks loved her. I never connected with her sermons
Seems to me he keeps his children in the dark because they would hold his feet to the fire. He doesn't want their buy in. It gives me mean daddy vibes.
Tony Evans is a false teacher that has perverted and twisted the scripture for many years. His error in teaching has become the standard for many Christians, that most today believe the things he shares as truth. The fact this his son is standing and preaching in his father's place is also a perversion of biblical standards because he was never reviewed to be qualified as an elder to lead. His son is given the place to preach simply based on the standard of being the son, and not Elder qualifications. Why is he preaching is ridiculous when a qualified elder should be the one leading the Church. If Tony Evans has temporarily stepped down to sin from long ago, it also means he stopped being qualified as an elder long ago and has been living with a lie, living unwisely, lost self control, and has now lost his reputation. All these are the same qualifications required by an elder yet hiding this sin has disqualified him repeatedly for yrs Tony Evan has permanently disqualified himself from ministry but now is trying to keep control of the ministry and the money thru his family and his son taking over. this is a corrupted and evil people and church organization for they all continue to support the lie he has lived and in wanting to come back in the future. The whole church is in sin.
Learned this tactic in law school and continue to do so as a practicing attorney. It’s a classic lawyer speak. That statement was meant to look as if it could mean two different things. So, when there’s more investigation into it, the person who wrote it can rightfully say that he was telling the truth.
Yep! But what baffles me is how many thousands of ppl can't see thru it and when you try to explain it to them, they still don't get it sigh.....
I wish you all will leave it to God and stop speculating,
I wish you would stop clicking, you hypocrite.
All have sinned and fallen short of God’s ill
bible said put not ur trust in man but God’s word! period!
I don't trust any of these people!!!!
I don't know what all is going on in Texas but these pastors are falling.
The other disturbing part of both Morrison and Evans "stepping down" from ministry is the immediate or imminent action to place their children into pastoral positions. These churches are not an inheritance for man, but a holy trust and a bond to Jesus Christ.
Without knowing the facts, those family members need to heal and recover from the shock and betrayal of trust. The congregants need time to renew from this intense bodyblow. Trustees and decons need the Holy Spirit to guide them in their ministry to restore the churches and bring them back to God.
I think he may be trying to get ahead of a scandal by coming out and stepping down. Stay tuned.
This is FUNNY…. We will NEVER Know, because it’s none of our business!!!😊
I understood from his statement that he Tony, convey to his children that he was stepping down.. however, I don't believe that he told them what it was!!!
i really thought TONY was one of the good guys after TD JAKES scandal. i was wrong.
I said the moment I heard Tony Evans stepping down there is far more to the story than what he was saying? When I recently heard he was remarried, I was living out of state and did realize his 1st wife had passed. After finding who he married, I know instantly something is not right and will be revealed sooner rather than later.
We all want wholesome pastors and sadly these pastors skip over what the Bible says for the men who hold the Pastor office.
You’re to be blameless, no scandal, husband of 1 wife ( no divorce. After death is ok) have his own house in order, meek, no anger issues , and so forth. That why many can not fill this spot.
I disagree with your interpretation of Tony Evans statement.
Continued prayers for Dr. Tony Evans 🙏🏽 and we're looking forward to Rev. James Meeks' message today at OCBF!
This is starting to sound kinda Greenleaf-ish to me🤦🏾♀️
I took his statement that his family was aware of his decision to step down.
Sounds like he is blackmailed.
I don't know enough about the subject to give a comment on this subject. 🙏
These Pastors need to fall down on their knees and repent to God and the people they have crushed. I just left a Ministry where the Pastor was narcissistic, verbally abusive, hated black women, and let Jezebel ran the show, who wasn't even his Wife. I am heartbroken, but I will heal and move on eventually.
Pride is the root of this whole thing.
Yes, his children had a weird look o their face during the engagement announcement.
I was giving him credit for steping down because I did not know. I retract. Shout out to the Elders. Most importantly, thank God for moving these Mega Pastors out of their positions. We Are Tired of the Mess.
I was a member of OCBF for a few years many years ago. While a member, Pastor Evans was very vocal and clear that, if you’re a leader in the church and you commit “sexual sin”, you must come before the church congregation, publicly confess your sin, and ask for forgiveness from the church. Then you are to step down from your position and be “restored”. And after this period is over, you can be officially restored to your leadership position. This public restoration also happened before the church. I was still a member when I saw this happen during a church service for some member of leadership who had cheated on his wife (the restoration part).
So for Pastor Evans not to hold himself up to the same standard he has required of others is the problem and the hypocrisy of it all. If he had an affair and cheated on Lois while she was alive (which is the rumor), and covered it up for years while requiring his leaders, elders, children and deacons to do otherwise. Then, that is truly shameful, and he deserves the consternation he is getting.
Tony Evans should’ve retired, and kept it moving. People do wrong, until they get caught. His son needs to move in silence. He is basically 😅begging people to turn a blind eye…indirectly.
The engagement I saw, so I never got the impression they didn't know. They came on stage before it all happened and held hands. I'm praying he does what God wants and doesn't hide. Now I dont believe Lois cleaned up anything...no
I think it might be an overstatement to say his wife doesn’t know, maybe the children don’t……..
I'm a lover and an admirer of Pastor Evans but I was surprised to hear that this "sin" was committed some time ago( and I.was taken back by it)so why now do something about it and not before which isn't in keeping with his character.
That's because people are so just judgemental as if they are without sin.
For me it was no brainer that he was being blackmailed... and somebody out there somewhere knows something he obviously doesn't want to get out...
If his behavior is over 30 years old, in my opinion, it has to be something pretty bad... and I'm not sure I'm buying that it wasn't a crime, because after 30 years, what else would you be afraid of getting out but criminal Behavior.
I honestly think he wanted to walk away from the ministry and focus on the new wife if he did something most likely it’s pertaining unto the first wife
....for those saying, "thats between him and God,I don't care what he did". He certainly does that's why he's lying and dodging truth.
I think all churches should pay taxes than they wouldn't have money to live like kings and queens 💯🙅
I was suspicious of him when kirk Franklin said he was his spiritual father and he throws up to many hand signs for me
These people who are always posting their "perfect" families are the very one's who are messed up mentally and emotionally. They are also the one's who are hiding all kinds of skeletons 😮
I bet any amount of money, this new fiancé surfaced as a decoy, hoping it would work to slow down rumors. You are right, somebody was fixing to hit the “live button” & tell all.
It's believed he married her for that reason.
I really enjoy all his sermons.
These wolf pastor exemplify the importance of seeking God and reading the Bible for yourself.
Its interesting how easily Christians lie. Forget about the verse that says a liar shall not tarry in my sight.
I still support him hes used mightly by god
Of course you do.
I agree! Upon reading the vague statement of his stepping down, the word "obfuscating" came to mind: to make unclear, hard to understand, especially deliberately. So sad. It's obvious to me, as you pointed out, there's no repentance without clarity.
yep the wife always makes the husband look good when he wrong or upsides down especially in black community!
Or Johnathan could be lying. That’s a possibility
All people have to do is to compare what these fake pastor teach w/the Word of GOD. People will continue to be deceived by being lazy. When you stand before GOD you will not be able to say "I did not know". Wake Up people.
He said years ago... why now??? I am sick of this hypocrite pastors.
Just because someone “goes live” doesn’t mean they are telling the truth.
I hate to spread rumors but I heard on another UA-cam channel the reason that Tony Evans stepped down and yes it was blackmail from a certain community.
I feel that the Elders should have brought Paster Evans before the church body, spelling out the purpose of the sudden stepping down. Pastor Evans, then could have addressed the gathering of saints and visitors. Whatever is in the butter milk will alternately rise to the top. "Let us all pray."
Big money buys the best "Crisis Management" PR team! Keep talking cause loose lips, sink ships.
In January, it was said 2024 is the year of reveal. In my DJ Khalid's voice: "another one!"
Let the journey of revealing continue....
Mr. Evans is being blackmailed!! He is trying to get in front of it! Will probably will be made public .😢🙏🏽 Romans 3 no one is righteous, but he is disqualified from ever being a pastor again!! Titus 1:7. That’s why the Bible states not to trust in man. Jeremiah 17:5
Tony Tony...
Loved many many.of your sermons...
Not sure if I am going on off track right but I attended Hillsong London a number of years and his famous daughter use to be a guess speaker, never connected with her sermons at all. young folks loved her. I never connected with her sermons
I disagree with your own (opinion)...
I caught that when the son said it and I was wondering if the son was lying!
My first thought when I heard him was: WELL … ONE of them is lying
Meet the real Tony Evans. You are eerily on point.
I used to read his email devotional, it was all a huge sales pitch! I deleted them and removed them from my inbox.
Seems to me he keeps his children in the dark because they would hold his feet to the fire. He doesn't want their buy in. It gives me mean daddy vibes.
Plus didn't one of the children get pregnant and had to tell the whole congregation....I digress
Pastor Evans is over rating himself and he undermining the church and the family
Always felt they were not as close as they made out
The Evans Family is extremely close❤ to
Everyone saying he doesn't need to reveal the truth!?!?
Hahaha 😢
And I just received his bible and commentary that cost 130$
Can you do more than 15 minutes I just love your commentary and your insight on topics I keep binge watching them!
I like your concept of no videos on yr podcast, so we avoid distractions and just listen! Thank you!
Hey MVMO to clarify, Jonathan is the older son NOT the younger son. Anthony is the younger son.
The son could be lying
He was too nervous during that sermon, on that part, I don't believe he was lying. It's a pattern.
Sad......😢
hiding…awful… wonder what his new wife thinks…
So very disappointed with this man 😢
Tony Evans is a false teacher that has perverted and twisted the scripture for many years. His error in teaching has become the standard for many Christians, that most today believe the things he shares as truth.
The fact this his son is standing and preaching in his father's place is also a perversion of biblical standards because he was never reviewed to be qualified as an elder to lead. His son is given the place to preach simply based on the standard of being the son, and not Elder qualifications. Why is he preaching is ridiculous when a qualified elder should be the one leading the Church.
If Tony Evans has temporarily stepped down to sin from long ago, it also means he stopped being qualified as an elder long ago and has been living with a lie, living unwisely, lost self control, and has now lost his reputation. All these are the same qualifications required by an elder yet hiding this sin has disqualified him repeatedly for yrs
Tony Evan has permanently disqualified himself from ministry but now is trying to keep control of the ministry and the money thru his family and his son taking over. this is a corrupted and evil people and church organization for they all continue to support the lie he has lived and in wanting to come back in the future. The whole church is in sin.
I didn't even know Tony Evans was married.
Hi, can you do a video about Pastor William Murphy?
Im am so glad I walked away from the church years ago,
Mess
He lied about a sin he committed causing him to resign his position
Who cares. The damage has been done.
How can ome trust a man rocking fake hair?
Okay, now that you said they looked shocked 🫢 makes sense because to me they looked unsupportive.