We Tried Crazy Old School Bodybuilder Exercises (Do They Still Work?)

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  • Опубліковано 31 лип 2024
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    We tried crazy old school bodybuilder exercises. Do they still work?
    0:00 - Intro
    0:31 - Molding A Mighty Back
    1:58 - Barbell Wrist Twists
    3:13 - Javelin Press
    4:00 - Reeves Deadlift
    5:31 - Monkey Rows
    7:00 - Barbell Turns
    8:18 - Kettlebell Extensions
    9:28 - Verdict
    #classic #bodybuilding
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  • @oldmanmuscle
    @oldmanmuscle Рік тому +17

    Hi guys,
    The exercise you are referring to as "monkey rows" is an outstanding movement for anyone with compromised shoulder stability or shoulder joint issues. Late last year, I did a video about this movement on my channel, but I had no name for the exercise because it was something that just came from my own head (I had never seen or heard of something like this one before, and I've been bodybuilding since 1968). I was looking for something that was easier on my shoulders with less, or no, risk to them. What my goal was is to work the same deltoid musculature as side DB laterals without having the DBs way out to the side, which can cause joint issues for lifters with compromised shoulders if the angle is off a little bit. I did way too many heavy overhead presses and upright BB rows for 50 years, which I believe is finally showing up now negatively at 72 in the form of shoulder stability. It you compare this movement to DB side lateral raises, you will see that at the uppermost point of the movement, your deltoid complex is in nearly the identical position as with a lateral side raise, and the result in muscle stimulation is essentially the same. Hold a dumbbell in each hand (lighter for the strict lateral raise side), and do both movements at the same time in front of a mirror while watching your delts. I do feel it also in my traps, but the weight is fairly light for maximizing trap growth. The great thing about this movement is that the hands are in the neutral position, palms facing one another, so there are none of the problems associated with BB upright rows (not a good exercise, but I did them for decades because that's what I was taught by Bill Pearl and the guys at his gym when I was a novice). BTW, the name of my video is "Build bigger shoulders with less risk of common injuries!" if you are interested. Thanks for highlighting this great DB exercise, a very productive movement that I have been using for over a year now, and getting excellent results with no injuries at all. Take care!
    steve

  • @richluke24
    @richluke24 Рік тому +28

    I used to do those "monkey rows" when I was a teenager about 20 years ago, my dad taught me them. Stopped doing them when I went to a gym rather than training at home, as no one else was doing them.

    • @MightyFartBomber1
      @MightyFartBomber1 Рік тому +2

      Just do them my guy! I feel like once someone sees you and gets curious enough to try it out, it might actually become a trend that you started. I used to shy away from doing workouts that nobody else in the gym does and might look weird (a few ab exercises in my case and soon monkey rows too) but then I just remind myself I went to the gym for a selfish reason- for my sake, not for them and then the shyness just goes away. Just as long as I am confident that the seemingly awkward thing that I am doing actually works and in this case the monkey rows actually has a great deal of trap and delt activation

    • @jarlielloach1468
      @jarlielloach1468 Рік тому +2

      I still do monkey rows

    • @tammyt3434
      @tammyt3434 Рік тому

      It's tough being the only one in the gym doing something, but sometimes that's how you become a leader.

    • @richluke24
      @richluke24 Рік тому

      @@tammyt3434 lol I don't mind, I haven't trained in a gym for about 3 years. I train at home in my garage, don't have a bench, use my dads weights from the 70's and I'm a boss at floor pressing ;)
      I'm also easily the biggest strongest bloke in the garage ;) (I train alone).

  • @BBP081
    @BBP081 Рік тому +29

    For the wrist twist curls it kind of makes sense: with a dumbbell the weight is on either side of your hand, the weight is balanced so their is no resistance to pronation or supination. Turning your wrist over is easy, so to make pronation or supination a challenge you need put the weight on one side of the hand. Try grabbing a hammer and go through the pronation/supination movement versus a dumbbell of similar weight and you will see the difference. So, by grabbing a rope you make the force gravity against elbow flexion and forearm supination at the same time.
    That said, this set up does not look very practical. Using a cable machine with the rope attachment or a kettlebell with towel through it may be easier.

    • @papaspaulding
      @papaspaulding Рік тому

      Id imagine even using the 'rope' attachments on a barbell has its use in that it wold force you to lower the weight and really control the movement to keep the bar stable forcing more time under tension as a result. but with dumbells its pretty much just a standard alternating curl (or how ive always done them at least)

  • @LTPottenger
    @LTPottenger Рік тому +13

    You're supposed to shrug the reeves deadlift at the top. This really hammers your side delts. My favorite side delt exercise.

  • @elikebudi
    @elikebudi Рік тому +38

    I respect this old time bodybuilders. If they hadn’t found those exercises, there wouldn’t have been today’s exercises. I am wondering how people of 2090 find our current fitness exercises 😀🤔 Great video as always!!!

    • @fittysit-tea5287
      @fittysit-tea5287 Рік тому +5

      A lot of the "current" exercises we do are already 50-100+ years old. So we have an idea of what works thanks to modern science.
      There probably will be new invented exercises and new science on nutrition but everything we do now is safe & works so future exercises will probably be very similar.

    • @Alexor715
      @Alexor715 Рік тому

      Oh when looking at Russia angrily shaking its ancient nuke fist I don't think there will be any 2090. 😉

    • @Joe_Pittard
      @Joe_Pittard Рік тому +1

      @@fittysit-tea5287 modern science? Bruh, we've been doing these the whole time, we already knew what worked

    • @jimboorins5038
      @jimboorins5038 Рік тому

      @@Alexor715 Russia hardly poses a threat compared to the globohomo kosher west.

    • @Brandon68plus1
      @Brandon68plus1 Рік тому +3

      No one will be exercising in 2090 just lipo and sculpting muscles with surgery.

  • @fraseplow
    @fraseplow Рік тому +5

    Stumbled across the monkey rows a couple months ago and they quickly became a part of my upper routine. So how much easier on my shoulders than an upright row.

  • @JackgarPrime
    @JackgarPrime Рік тому +22

    The thing that I'm not liking about the kettlebell extension is that the weight is directly above the top of your skull. If your grip slips, that's gonna be really bad news, even on lighter weights.

    • @kamo7293
      @kamo7293 Рік тому +4

      fair point. if you go too heavy maybe use straps to inc grip

    • @JackgarPrime
      @JackgarPrime Рік тому +5

      @@kamo7293 Even then I worry that a cramp or slip would still result in bad times for your noggin.

    • @diogeneslantern18
      @diogeneslantern18 Рік тому

      Indeed, it's a very tenuous movement.
      A lot of people in the kettlebell community also question the safety risks of TGUs (myself being one of them)

    • @Alexor715
      @Alexor715 Рік тому

      Use straps for extra safety then. It's not about the grip strength so it's no big deal.

  • @ajcarter2548
    @ajcarter2548 Рік тому +5

    You two have helped me so much. Not quite at the status of "buff" but I think I'm back to my "hot little number" status. Thanks guys and keep on keeping on!

  • @MrPrimitiveman
    @MrPrimitiveman Рік тому

    Excellent video! Like to see this be a complete series! Thanks for the great content!

  • @Jpopguin
    @Jpopguin Рік тому

    Awesome! I’d love to see you guys do more old school strength feats!

  • @miamidolphinsfan
    @miamidolphinsfan Рік тому

    Exactly what I expect from y'all!! STAY BUFF DUDES much love from Miami, Fl

  • @RealRuler2112
    @RealRuler2112 Рік тому +2

    I love how Hudson tries to be serious & Brandon just keeps making him laugh while he's trying to do these. XD

  • @rolsson1693
    @rolsson1693 Рік тому +6

    Please do more old school!!! Cheers 🍻

  • @porkchopproductions0314
    @porkchopproductions0314 Рік тому +2

    The Reeves Deadlift has always been a one time caliente that Reeves did at York Gym. Everyone was weightlifters and Reeves was the only bodybuilder there. They all thought Reevs was weak, so he had someone load up 400 pounds to the bar and deadlifted it like the Buff Dudes did

  • @miskee11
    @miskee11 Рік тому +56

    I actually do the "wrist twist barbell curls" pretty often, but as spider curls instead. It's a very good movement for poor home gym owners who don't want to buy a set of dumbbells for a couple of grand. In my opinion it works wonders when done as a spider curl, because then the weight doesn't really bang on to your body. I also do plain hammer curls with the same exact setup from time to time.

    • @jordanreynolds1498
      @jordanreynolds1498 Рік тому +3

      When I saw the Dudes doing them I thought it looked like a useful exercise that could be utilised

    • @kamo7293
      @kamo7293 Рік тому +4

      yeah I was going to point out that it's useful for minimalist home gym owners

    • @clydenolet736
      @clydenolet736 Рік тому +1

      300LB of Olympic weight and a 45LB usually runs about $400

    • @happyjam92
      @happyjam92 Рік тому

      Dumbbells don't cost anywhere close to that

    • @newport5504
      @newport5504 Рік тому

      Id laugh if I seen ya doing that at the gym

  • @petriaspvik
    @petriaspvik Рік тому

    Would love a part 2!

  • @Snarksalot69
    @Snarksalot69 Рік тому

    Thanks!

  • @youtubecreators384
    @youtubecreators384 Рік тому +3

    Some crazy old school exercise I could suggest is the two hands anyhow lift, which Arthur Saxon to this day holds the record on.

  • @christopherwinrow3878
    @christopherwinrow3878 Рік тому

    Brilliant video mate respect YNWA brothers

  • @gregorysorce1898
    @gregorysorce1898 Рік тому

    When Hudson did the javelin press he reminded me of Prince Adam lifting his magic sword yelling "I have the power!" becoming He-Man.

  • @zeroman155
    @zeroman155 Рік тому

    Fun videos like this one is when Buff Dudes are at their best. 😁💪👌👍✅

  • @chaddy1207
    @chaddy1207 Рік тому +4

    If you do the monkey rows really slow, 4 seconds up, 4 seconds down, you get major trap activation.

  • @ryanmelvey8764
    @ryanmelvey8764 Рік тому +1

    monkey row seems really cool. like a pulling version of a dip

  • @TheAllanBrownlie
    @TheAllanBrownlie Рік тому +2

    Cant believe ive never done a monkey row. It makes so much sense

  • @Enno9
    @Enno9 Рік тому

    A very nice Video 💪👌

  • @Black_Adam911
    @Black_Adam911 Рік тому +1

    I've seen people use towels to curl and do pull-ups. Really thickens the wrists and forearms.

  • @wakemusicalarm
    @wakemusicalarm Рік тому +1

    I'd love if you guys and The Duke took a trip around the world to see rare and foreign work outs and health and high protein buff diets from other cultures!!!

  • @Vnm-sh1jv
    @Vnm-sh1jv Рік тому +2

    Been doing monkey rows, but twisting the wrist towards the end, for years. Love that workout. Some people ask me where I got it from, but I don't remember. It's a really good workout and activates the crap out of your traps and rear delts and even some lats.

  • @xlittlep
    @xlittlep Рік тому

    Would love to see more of these videos, especially since you found some winners.

  • @webeducation
    @webeducation Рік тому +1

    That montage had me rollin 😂

  • @stevene6181
    @stevene6181 Рік тому

    Awesome video

  • @meekrodriguez6438
    @meekrodriguez6438 Рік тому

    Dope video

  • @TheHylden
    @TheHylden Рік тому +2

    My shoulders have a lot of issues doing rows and stuff. The monkey rows actually really look good. I am definitely giving them a try 👍

  • @mitchiedjdotcom
    @mitchiedjdotcom Рік тому

    That barbell turn one reminds me of one I found on UA-cam when I first starting going the gym, where you hold out a weight and slowly turn it as if your turning a steering wheel back and forth, the burn kills and I didn't half get some funny looks in the gym didn't do it after the first try lol

  • @cincomorales
    @cincomorales Рік тому

    Great video

  • @vetonpro1
    @vetonpro1 Рік тому

    Perfect exercices

  • @nunninkav
    @nunninkav Рік тому

    The Reeve's DL is actually really good for shoulder distraction, if you have a shoulder impingement it helps alot!

  • @jodycameron-roy2544
    @jodycameron-roy2544 Рік тому +2

    I'm pretty sure the Reeves Deadlift is actually done as a shrug. Golden era bookworms UA-cam channel has a video on it.

  • @alpulley4894
    @alpulley4894 Рік тому +1

    Can you guys do a video on" 1 set to failure" type of workout? I keep hearing about this, seems interesting. Curious if you guys can try the system out

  • @kennethmacgregor-Gregorach
    @kennethmacgregor-Gregorach Рік тому +2

    The hospitals must have been full back then after people tried these out! I've been doing Monkey Rows off and on for a few years, I like them.

  • @JackgarPrime
    @JackgarPrime Рік тому +3

    Awwww yeah, more of these! My shoulder joints are hurting just from the intro!

  • @thebonk7138
    @thebonk7138 Рік тому +1

    Bruh those BB turns hurt my rotator cuffs from just watching yall do them

  • @ilbothegunner8145
    @ilbothegunner8145 Рік тому

    nice upload guys vut please also make a video about what do we need to do when again pandemic strikes when again all stores are close tnx in advance

  • @Eisbreaker1
    @Eisbreaker1 Рік тому +1

    I believe the rotation on Barbell Turns has to do with the fact that muscles tend to become stronger within a 15° range of motion from the position you train them in. If you do a 15° rotation before each press on these, and you go both directions, you end up training the entire range of motion your shoulders could work in - so you get maximal muscle fiber recruitment. It would probably make a good exercise for any athlete that uses a stick, bat pole, etc. in their sport.

  • @peterfisk6598
    @peterfisk6598 Рік тому +2

    These style videos are awesome!

  • @lwskiner
    @lwskiner Рік тому +1

    Try using an E-Z curl bar for the Reeves but do either a stiff-leg deadlift or bent row with that hand position/grip, those are excellent exercises.

    • @What-he5pr
      @What-he5pr Рік тому

      Sounds awesome, thanks for the idea.

  • @enriqueneria432
    @enriqueneria432 Рік тому

    Hahaha I've been doing the monkey curls this whole time and didn't know they were called that. I just started doing them because they look and feel great!! Stay buff buff Dudes 💪💪

  • @anthonypena336
    @anthonypena336 Рік тому

    I now read every Buff Dudes video title in Hudson's voice lol

  • @GeneDarrTV
    @GeneDarrTV Рік тому +3

    The first one didn't even look like an exercise, looked more like a stretch ones does in the morning after waking up 😂

  • @bjornsiebert3412
    @bjornsiebert3412 Рік тому

    Monkey rows are great, also known as hip huggers. Been doing them with bands for a while now and can highly recommend them

  • @tammyt3434
    @tammyt3434 Рік тому

    Monkey row: "If you haven't done this one give it a try."
    I carry my own groceries, so definitely done this one.

  • @deamianalt
    @deamianalt Рік тому

    I would love to see you guys do a 10-day challenge of water fast plus vitamins to settle the debate of whether water fasting is killing your gains while working out. Do a DEXA scan before and after

  • @justinkenneybrew5179
    @justinkenneybrew5179 Рік тому

    My body told me to do the inverted dip movement with the dumbbells. Pretty interesting to find out it's an official old school exercise.

  • @Mike_61610
    @Mike_61610 Рік тому

    I use your videos to learn new workouts.

  • @papaspaulding
    @papaspaulding Рік тому

    Ive never heard of monkey rows before but do actually do these with resistance band as found it a good movement for shoulders and traps towards the end of a workout

  • @leonardohernandez1411
    @leonardohernandez1411 Рік тому +3

    Amazing video ! I'm gonna try the monkey rows.

  • @nickdoci4454
    @nickdoci4454 Рік тому +2

    You may want to talk to Nick Best. He has good knowledge this area.

  • @duelknight69
    @duelknight69 Рік тому +1

    Guys can you also make a review of the bullworker. When I was young I often saw my dad using it in his exercise routine. What's you're thought about this? Thanks and more power guys.

  • @richtheunstable3359
    @richtheunstable3359 Рік тому

    Definitely going to add some monkey rows in to my workout later today.

  • @bloodink9508
    @bloodink9508 Рік тому

    Wrist twist curls seems like rope grip cable curls with extra supination before they had that set up. I see dudes doing this to this day.

  • @HUGECOCH69420
    @HUGECOCH69420 Рік тому +2

    i will deffinetly be doing the monkey rows exercise

  • @dsiii98
    @dsiii98 Рік тому +2

    Barbell turns could be good if you’re a practitioner of martial arts with bo staffs.

  • @chrisfalx3251
    @chrisfalx3251 Рік тому +1

    When you and your brothers find grandpa’s old weights out in the garage this is the kind of shit we would do

  • @jimmc4952
    @jimmc4952 Рік тому

    Buff dudes youtube buff academy Thors hammer. Basically the javelin press with a kettle bell. Pretty fun exercise

  • @peterparahuz7094
    @peterparahuz7094 Рік тому

    i've been doing the 'monkey row' with external rotation for rear delts. i was unaware of its simian name.

  • @davidliftsheavycircles
    @davidliftsheavycircles Рік тому +2

    Love these old school videos

  • @JustAmaanFitness
    @JustAmaanFitness Рік тому

    Nice videos

  • @Niborino9409
    @Niborino9409 Рік тому

    The Herk U. Lee's barbell wrist twists: it would be different if you actually used towels like they showed in the manual. Straps are stiffer, slippery and thin. 🤷‍♂️

  • @betauser6233
    @betauser6233 Рік тому

    Monkey shrugs are suppose to be a 2 part exercise. First shrug upper traps then tighten the lower traps by bringing elbows up and back. If done correctly your shoulders are mostly relaxed with a full contraction on traps.

  • @KurtAngle89
    @KurtAngle89 Рік тому

    You GOTTA do something about the man, the Myth, the Legend, Eugene Sandow!!!

  • @cn728
    @cn728 Рік тому

    I died watching this!!

  • @TrollPductions
    @TrollPductions Рік тому

    Been doing monkey rows with a D handle on a pulley as my upright row fixer, didnt even know it was a real exercise.

  • @jlotus100
    @jlotus100 Рік тому

    I feel like if you did the Reeves Deadlift and held it in place, it would make for a top notch grip exercise.
    Come to think of it, you should make that your next challenge video.

  • @jpduplessis500
    @jpduplessis500 Рік тому

    I used to do the javelin press for weightlifting but I called them Kono Press because Tommy Kono did them

  • @SpirrePirre
    @SpirrePirre Рік тому

    Early crew checking in

  • @VacuumDweller
    @VacuumDweller Рік тому +1

    Given that so much of this old-school "physical culture" stuff (what we would call today "body-building") was so, so new for these guys, it's easy both to make fun of it and also to appreciate it all the more. It's important to keep in mind the equipment that these guys had; most everything they had was both fixed-weight and fixed-bar as well (non-rotational like modern collared bars), which puts stuff like the Javelin Press in context. If you were capable of pressing really any serious weight. it would have been a 'big' 50lb+ solid iron mass that you would have had to balance like that!
    The "Mighty Back" movement is honestly just a Snatch that ends in an Iron Cross position (curious, but salvageable), and the Wrist Twists is just the first half of an Arnold Press that ends in the curl position without the Press portion. Those Monkey Rows are absolutely golden, what an incredible movement! Same with the Reeves Deadlift!
    It's really interesting to see how close these programs and their practitioners are to 'modern' physical culture. I genuinely wonder how any one of us would have fared if we were transported back in time, with the inarguably cleaner food but slightly worse equipment...

  • @luzgonzaga6379
    @luzgonzaga6379 Рік тому

    Nice

  • @jay_mw
    @jay_mw Рік тому

    The molding a mighty back one is still safer than cross fit.

  • @thebigchimpanski4783
    @thebigchimpanski4783 Рік тому

    Monkey rows are good unilaterally as well. A functional exercise. Like carrying a pallet at work.

  • @pifuskinz
    @pifuskinz Рік тому

    Man, my tucking algorithm has pushed you guys out of my viewing area. Literally had to search cuz I hadn’t seen you guys in awhile

  • @abracadabra9781
    @abracadabra9781 Рік тому

    i just realized i was chowing on a cookie when i was watching this. and not the first one

  • @ctcentralinfo
    @ctcentralinfo Рік тому

    Have you tried using a cable machine or dumbbell for the kettbell extensions?

  • @1980alsful
    @1980alsful Рік тому

    Totally gonna stick some monkey rows into my lifting

  • @christopherwinrow3878
    @christopherwinrow3878 Рік тому

    I'll deffo do the monkey rows

  • @madvicemusic
    @madvicemusic Рік тому

    I wanna go to a public gym and do the back breakers

  • @777Thebear
    @777Thebear Рік тому

    Monkey rows really hits the rear delt..

  • @saddletramp1979
    @saddletramp1979 Рік тому

    At 1:48 is that DIY Duke on the right. He even stole DIY Duke's Grrr...

  • @mojavista3907
    @mojavista3907 Рік тому

    THIS EXERCISE, THIS EXERCISE IS REAL!!!!

  • @Theo-ul8qm
    @Theo-ul8qm Рік тому

    I think you guys missed some popular exercices, especially the famous ‘bent-press’. I’ll be honest, I don’t know the exact form, but I see it mentioned in many old-time strongman books, like from Eugene Sandow times. Apparently they were using some serious weight on that ~300 lbs. Curious to know more about that.
    My favorite part about these old school exercices is they remind me not to be so fixated on the exercices that are popular. There’s no special exercise, just stimulus, recovery and growth. I think that’s the takehome message.

  • @Dragonfiregum
    @Dragonfiregum Рік тому

    I didn't know those were called monkey rows. I've been doing that one for years.

  • @arnosgym
    @arnosgym Рік тому

    Could you do this kind of videoabout the workout of Eugen Sandow ?
    The "father" of bodybuilding ?

  • @decomodus
    @decomodus Рік тому +1

    How about trying the workout routine done by Indian/Pakistani wrestlers (Kushti)? Especially with the clubs involved, it is kinda old school as well.

  • @drewjdelaney
    @drewjdelaney Рік тому

    I now have new montage material, thanks!

  • @jeffreythompsonii9931
    @jeffreythompsonii9931 Рік тому +1

    Looks like these old school exercises work on the twitchy stabilizing muscles

  • @nextsteptrainer9202
    @nextsteptrainer9202 Рік тому

    You will see Crossfit doing many of these exercises at the next games

  • @SHARKVADERS
    @SHARKVADERS Рік тому +1

    BD!!!!!

  • @bhosein
    @bhosein Рік тому

    ""pull a few tendons and break a few bones ....""
    haahaaha

  • @paratus2050
    @paratus2050 Рік тому

    What lab do you use?

  • @makaiev
    @makaiev Рік тому

    Fun fact, javelin press on high reps makes keeping guard high effortless....

  • @Vorylenus
    @Vorylenus Рік тому +1

    Impressive you guys didn't know about Monkey rows. Great exercise, but got to be honest. I didn't know the name for them lol It is an exercise I've been doing since I was a teen.
    Yats Ffub