The Time The Cowboys DIDN'T Host Thanksgiving
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- Опубліковано 4 жов 2024
- In 1975 and 1977, the St. Louis Cardinals took over hosting duties for the Thanksgiving game over the Dallas Cowboys. This decision did not go so well. Here's the story behind how the Cardinals, for two years, got to play on Thanksgiving and kick the Cowboys off.
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NOTE: One part had to be removed due to copyright (around the 1:20 mark). It talked about how nobody wanted to play on Thanksgiving outside of the Lions, and that Pete Rozelle was looking to push the envelope on television
Tex Schramm wasn't the owner of the Dallas Cowboys, Clint Murchison was. Schramm was the general manager.
an irony about the low attendance for the 1962 Thanksgiving Bronco game- that game had a 46-45 score, so the low attendance and those who did show up at least got a good show.
Very well done, nice to have an explanation here on youtube. One correction, Tex was the Cowboys team President, not the owner. Tex was a marketer, and saw value for the exposure of the Cowboys this day. A huge benefit, especially in late November is for the team to have 10 days off after playing on a Thursday ! I cannot imagine not having the Cowboys on Thanksgiving, as my family "adjusts" dinner time around the game time every year !! Faithful since 1974 !! Except of course 1975 and 1977 :(.
We get done eating right before 3:30 PM...perfect timing to get the highlights from the Lions game and settle for some rest time.
Clint Murchison was a laid back owner, he let Tex run the show
Tex is the reason the Cowboys are in the NFC East because he wanted to play the big East coast teams every year
Imagine being burdened with the Lions AND the Cardinals on Turkey day ...
Well now we're burdened with the cowboys and lions (I'm a cowboys fan btw) so thanksgiving games are now bound to be bad
It was just the Lions until 1966 and starting in 1960 different AFL games
That was when Don Coryell was in St. Louis.
As a Dol-Fan that 1977 game with the Cardinals is a Thanksgiving treat as the Dolphins scored a record 55 points in one game which was surprise because after a slow start the Cardinals were rolling before the game and the Dolphins were rebuilding after several of their star players from the 1972 unbeaten season had left the team. Bob Griese who was wearing glasses throwing 6 TD's in a game which was almost surprising as Egypt President Anwar Sadat making a speech at the Knesset in Israel which was the biggest news item that week of the game.
"This is the story of how the Cardinals, and not the Cowboys, were the annual Thanksgiving team for a period of time, and how this decision ended up backfiring in a big way...Welcome to Dumb Decisions."
The Cowboys on Thanksgiving, 1974 Clint Longley
Ironically, the Cardinals also played a Thanksgiving game at Dallas in 1976. And they played a MUCH better game on the road than at home, go figure
19-14 Cowboys it was a good game
Schramm was a "brand" genius before the term fell into favor. He had Cowboys wear white jerseys at home so that they would look the same when they came rolling into your town. Passing up a nationally televised game was not in his blood. These seeds he planted eventually sprouted the term "America's Team" because, unlike the Lions, he was committed to putting out a quality product. It's easier to garner fans across the country when you are consistently winning.
Until 1966 it was just the Lions on Thanksgiving Day
I remember the Dolphins game! Offensive Lineman Conrad Dobler, in the pregame introductions, said "For Thanksgiving, Don't have turkey, have a Dolphin"
Fitting that BUF played in the 1975 Thanksgiving game at STL considering they played in this past Thanksgiving
OJ killed the Cardinals
Absolutely loved Thanksgiving day football 🏈 I’m 58 in 2 weeks and remember so many wonderful games 🌈
Happy Birthday.
@@sicily7220 Thank you 🎉
that's wild that st louis has a high school game each year on turkey day that's a big success . makes you wonder why this game isn't televised
There is a couple of all-star games in PA: county vs county during thanksgiving weekend. The game was played like 10 AM on thanksgiving: when I played in it, it allowed only Seniors. Anyway it was fun and great experience. Guys from other schools that you played against for 4 years and suddenly your teammates.
As a Cowboys fan back then, I remember how strange the Thanksgivings of 1975 and 1977 were with the Cowboys not playing. I do remember rooting for the Bills in 1975 and the Dolphins in 1977 because the Cardinals were in the same division as the Cowboys. Sandwiched in between those two Thanksgiving games in St. Louis was the 1976 game played at Texas Stadium in Irving. The Cowboys won 19-14 over ... wait for it ... the St. Louis Cardinals. I've wondered if that was also intentional, to have the Cardinals as the visiting team in 1976 so they would be playing the late game on Thanksgiving Day three years in a row. I would imagine that after going 0-3 in that stretch, getting below-average crowds at home, and terrible TV ratings at home, the Cardinals were ready to say "We tried but it didn't work out." The Cardinals in their insistence on getting a piece of the late afternoon pumpkin pie wound up giving the Cowboys a bargaining chip for Thanksgiving Day, to play at home in the late afternoon game ad infinitum.
Been liking your content since the shoe superbowl advertisement! I noticed that the Chart at 2:44 has a useless legend, besides that, great work and nice job on the story telling!
The NFL should be able to flex the start times of the three Thanksgiving games, so the best of the three games could be broadcast in prime-time, regardless of the original start time.
Leave it the way it is Lions since 1934 Cowboys ( except for 75 and 77) since 1966
Can't do it because Ford Field (Lions home) hosts high school championship games every year.
I always wondered about those 2 Cardinals games in the 70s so thank you for this!
In a few areas, high school football teams play on Thanksgiving Day, starting in the morning.
For instance, Needham and Wellesley high schools in Massachusetts play football every year on Thanksgiving, and have done so since the 1890's.
@6:05 Terry Metcalf was awesome at RB and return specialist for a 5 year run , 1975 was his best year on a very good Cardinals team ⭐️
His son was good too
Wayne Morris as small fullback was earning his pay as blocker ,Really liked Coryell offense ,Problem was team just couldn't draft great defense, Amazing how little has changed .
Used to play against Kirkwood in Football. The team mentioned in that Turkey Bowl game in St. Louis. I was a D Lineman for a rival school in the same conference and we used to kick the crap out of them on a yearly basis the two years I started Varsity against them. Go Colts!
Where did you go Parkway North???
Keep up the good work and I enjoy your videos!
As an Eagles fan the Cowboys gave me two of my favorite Thanksgiving memories, Leon Lett and Randy Moss.
love these memories
The Dallas Cowboys didn't host Thanksgiving that year because they ranked BELOW a 39.6. They would have been OFF just SPIKING the BALL into the ground on EVERY single OFFENSIVE play!!!!
Leave it to America's Team to play the 2nd game in America on Thanksgiving Day
huh?
Bob Greise threw for 6 TDs against the Cardinals on Thanksgiving Day ‘77.
And that was the end of the Cardinals on Thanksgiving Day
There was also a time, when the NFL was installing the primetime Thanksgiving Day game, that the Chiefs almost got guaranteed a home Thanksgiving Day game every year. Lamar Hunt was really campaigning for that, and then sadly passed away around that time too. As a nod to this, the Chiefs hosted the first primetime Thanksgiving Day game.
I think, as a Chiefs fan, that now's the time to start that tradition. We have two of the biggest eaters in the league in Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes, imagine all the barbecue turkey flying around in KC, and the other two hosts of that day's games are NFC. Plus, we're consistently doing really well in the standings, perfect for a prime time showing.
Speaking of Chiefs on a Holiday Christmas Day 1971 vs Dolphins ( longest game ever played)
@@michaelleroy9281 And the last game ever played at Municipal Stadium, as Arrowhead would be completed for the 1972 season. AH is still going strong!
I would keep the primetime Thanksgiving Day game as it is. Perhaps you could add a game in primetime on Thanksgiving EVE hosted by the Chiefs that Wednesday night.
I'd also be looking to add a Wednesday after Thanksgiving game that would be tied to the tree lighting in Rockefeller Plaza that would become "The NFL Holiday Kickoff" on NBC that would always be at Met Life with the Giants and Jets alternating as the hosts (and occasionally it being a Giants-Jets game).
My favorite part of Dallas playing on Thanksgiving every year is listening to Eagles fans cry every year about a second bye week. Like the video said back in the day teams didn't want to play on thanksgiving and the lions and cowboys took advantage of it for tv exposure.
The story with the Lions has always been the owner at the time (1934) was hard of hearing and he thought a pastor said he hoped the Lions PLAYED on Thanksgiving as opposed to PRAY, and that led to the Thanksgiving tradition.
Oh, the Falcon burn on the 25 point deficit...ouch.
That was 5 years ago, and I don't think it's going away anytime soon.
A couple months ago I saw a CA license plate that simply read: 28 - 3
I think part of the problem with why no one wanted that game in 1966 other than the Cowboys was it would have been a 3:30 PM ET game (CBS between games in 1966 and '67 aired To Tell The Truth (The Thanksgiving 1967 show is on UA-cam) followed by five minutes of CBS News at 3:00 PM ET/Noon PT, the Lions' game then was Noon ET/9:00 AM PT). Back then, I suspect for example Wellington Mara, who owned the Giants would not have wanted a 3:30 PM game ending at 6:30 on Thanksgiving out of concern of crime, that by 1966 thanks to a rapidly exploding drug epidemic in New York was already becoming a big problem (I believe in fact with one exception for a CBS special Monday Night presentation in the late 1960's the Giants didn't play a home Monday night game until Week 2 of the 1982 season that coincidentially was the last game played before a strike wiped out seven weeks of that season). Also, the Catholic Church has a much greater say in how things were done at that time and I think some NFL owners feared blowback from local churches if they played a 3:30 game on Thanksgiving (the Colts would have been a logical candidate for that 3:30 game because it would have burned off a home game they didn't have to start at 2:00 PM on Sunday). Also, many high schools then and now have always played on Thanksgiving and even though those games are in the morning, there likely was concern about losing attendance to the 3:30 NFL game (not the factor then it is now) AND college football had games on Thanksgiving Day opposite the NFL for many years (including most famously on ABC, Oklahoma-Nebraska when THAT was the biggest rivalry in ALL of college football in 1971 when that was a #1 vs. #2 game).
All of the above to me played into why no owner wanted that second Thanksgiving game when the Cowboys took it and used it to help eventually brand themselves as "America's Team."
Huh... I thought Thanksgiving always happened on Dallas Cowboys Day.
Thanksgiving Day No1 Cowboys No2 turkey No 3 Lions
The Cowboys & The Cardinals played again on Thanksgiving in 1983 & 1985, with The Cowboys winning both games 35-17. Danny White threw 5 TD passes in the 1985 contest, but in both games The Cardinals were twice again prized turkeys.
In 1977, the St. Louis Cardinals hosted the Miami Dolphins on Thanksgiving Day after the Lions hosted the Chicago Bears. There’s another year the Cowboys did not play at Texas Stadium on Thanksgiving.
The Cowboys played every year at Texas Stadium on Thanksgiving until they left it( 2008 last season) after 1977
2:50 INCORRECT, Tex Schramm was NOT the owner of the Dallas Cowboys at this time. The owner was team founder Clint Murchison Jr.
Murchison let Tex run the show
would you do a video of afl chiefs hosting thanksgiving games?
Didn't Dallas' first Thanksgiving game in 1966 actually kick off at 5:45 P.M. Central time, meaning that most of the game was in prime time?
I'm trying hard not to make a turkey joke concerning the Cardinals game on TV at Thanksgiving. 😅
1975 Bills at Cardinals on Thanksgiving , OJ killed the Cards
They really need to change this. They should rotate ALL of the teams....
Bob grisese is a hall of famer because of this game. People say he shouldn't be in canton, but 2 first team all pro selections say otherwise
You forgot to mention about Conrad Dobler nearly hitting AJ Duhe with his helmet on his head and throwing a helmet at one of the Dolphin players. That was the bigger story.
And there's a good reason why the NFL hasn't taken the Thanksgiving game away from the Cowboys since.
Dallas Cowboys have only existed since 1960. Detroit has played on T-Day for almost 100 years
So many receivers fall after making a long catch, like the great Gary Collins at 3:59. Why do they don dat?
Tex Schramm wasn't the Cowboys owner, he was the GM. Clint Murchison owned the Cowboys at the time.
Boy I bet you Goodell would be public enemy number 1 in DFW and probably all of Texas if he said the Cowboys would never play on Thanksgiving. Plus I’m sure Jerry would tear Roger a new one if he did that.
America's Team should be playing every year...it's AMERICA'S TEAM #worshipthestar
The Cardinals forgot their place in the NFL's list of popular clubs and they weren't as good as the Cowboys were on the field during the '70s as a whole anyway. Also, the Cards had some nerve suddenly wanting to host the late Thanksgiving game after they turned it down and the Cowboys took a chance on it and were wildly successful. Furthermore, creating a conflict with that high school football rivalry wasn't cool.
I think the Bears and Packers rivalry needs to become a new Thanksgiving Day Tradition. Especially is the Bears organization can ever manage to pull their heads out of their asses.
That might be something for Thanksgiving eve in primetime.
The only tradition my lions have. Don’t take it from us
Weren’t the St. Louis Cardinals 11-3 at the end of the 1975 Season?
74 they were 11 3
Yes 11 3 sorry for the typo you r correct!
NFC East Champions both 1974 and 1975
@@michaelleroy9281
I am aware of that!
In 1974, the St. Louis Cardinals finished tied for First with the Washington Redskins at 10-4. The reason why St. Louis won the Division was because they won both times against the Redskins.
In 1975, the Cardinals finished 11-3 and one game ahead of Dallas for the NFC East Division.
1976, the St. Louis Cardinals again finished tied with the Washington Redskins at 10-4. But this time the Dallas Cowboys won the NFC East Division at 11-3, with the Redskins taking the Wild Card by both games they played with the Cardinals.
Do how randy moss owned Dallas.
With 2 great games with the Vikings vs Cowboys in 1998 and 2000
Note to FIFA: DON'T schedule a World Cup qualifying game on Thanksgiving Day. Just don't.
FIFA doesn't care about US Thanksgiving. They have to worry about the rest of the world and can't do the scheduling to accommodate ONE country.
Not their fault that only one country celebrates
Don't remind me of this fucking game. Cards were 7-3 going into this game and pretty much in the drivers seat for the NFC East title. They had the Dolphins, Giants, Deadskins, and the then still winless in their history Bucs left on the schedule and were riding a 6 game winning streak which included wins over Dallas and Minnesota. Then came the Thanksgiving game against Miami. 55-14. The Cards didn't win another game until week 9 the following season(a win I was there to see live). Worse yet, my brother was a Dolphins fan so I wore that one for a while.
But they beat the eagles in the nfc championship game that year soooo
One of the weirdest bad decisions of all time. 35 percent of the country were Cowboys fans in the 1970s. Let's replace them with one of the least successful teams.
Just like the deal..The Dallas Cowboys are Forever.
How bout them Cowboys
The Cardinals are the 2nd oldest team in the NFL only team older is the Chicago Bears.
The Cards, Lions, Giants, Packers and Bears were all founding members of the NFL, when founded in 1920.
@@NosferatusCoffin The Packers started in 1919 one year before the NFL was established
@@NosferatusCoffin you need a lesson. Giants came in 1925