Your channel literarily improves with each new video that you drop. Everything from the effects, production and content is just awesome. I cant understand why your sub numbers aren't triple what they are now!! Anyone who shoots airguns for sport/fun needs to join this channel!! I'm thinking that if you keep doing what your doing, those numbers will come. I'm glad to be a part of this community!!!
Oh man, may the Universe listen to you and thank you so, so much for your kind words. Indeed this new home has helped a lot with the filming space and I reinvest everything I earn from UA-cam into my next videos - so indeed I hope to only keep improving. You’ve always been there since the beginning, and I truly appreciate all your long time support my friend 🙏🏽
Dear AA. Hi, I think you did this test on the perfect day. I'm in the UK and I'm looking to protect myself when food and resources become scarce. It's good to know 'what' is going to perform the best in less-than-ideal conditions, I can't tell an attacker: "Hey, come back when the temperature is just right so my HDR will work at peak performance." ... No. You've done the community and people like me a solid... So many channels like yours, don't take people like me, living in an increasingly hostile environment in a country where I'm not legally allowed to defend myself or own anything harmful, into consideration. So, I thank you sir!
That is such a great point you make my friend! You’re absolutely right and I’m glad the two days of UK weather we had, were actually of help :) It’s amazing how the storing temperature of the CO2 cartridges affects the power so drastically! Keep them warm my friend!
Excellent video. The image, the sound, the musical accompaniment. HDR 50 works very well. Slugs are effective. I also like to shoot at targets to check the effects on impact.
Thank you Gaston for appreciating the details in my work, it’s such a pleasure 🙏🏽 Of course, target shooting is important… and fun! Keep it up my friend!
U must fix the wood from both sides...left-as u did-and right side. U must provide the swinging of the wood. Left side its much easyer to penetrate cos the wood cant swing back. Like always:great slomos dude👍
Hey I agree. The Deez Büllets hit the looser part which was more “bouncy”. My “tunnel of destruction is a work in progress and will be improving it in time. Good point tho, thanks my friend!
I still think the z -ram are the best munition for self defense, only need more weight. The 9mm only came out of the cans because the small projectile came out of the white capsule. The z ram is a big projectile, but i think have more penetration and damage.
I agree with you! So far we haven’t seen the zram full potential. I’m sure the ballistic dummy will tell us a completely different story. The true story. The cododos also do very well. The 9mm tip is very heavy and obviously bullet shaped, so it does very well with the extra power/weight once it separates from the sabot, for better penetration. Good input, thank you!
I’m glad you’re doing this. I just got an 11j HDR 50, and I’m very interested invusibg the optimal type of ammunition for a Joker load (alternating kinetic and pepper rounds).
@@AirgunAlley Ky first marker was a Byrna, than I got a Gavle. Both are good, but I had problems with the Byrna cracking the pepper rounds with the magazine’s spring pressure. With the hdr 50, there is no pressure on the pepper rounds, meaning no cracking issues.
bardzo Ci dziękuję przyjacielu and I’m sorry for getting you addicted to PCP buahahaha! I hope you will soon have the chance to shoot it, you will love it! Thank you for the encouragement :) I’ll keep going like a train 💪🏼💪🏼🤠🤠
All of these projectiles are devastating even at 0.50 cal. I'm not a PCP lover but keep doing what your doing. The visuals are great no matter what you shoot. I figure I might as well use a firearm instead of a PCP though if I'm looking to explode some fruit. Stay warm 😃
You’re absolutely right, my friend. And thanks for that, I’ll always keep making T4E related video, but as you said the visuals with PCP are nearly unlimited. Truly no need for firearms! I’m obviously blessed to be living near vast space with open laws. Whoof those two days in the 40s were brutal. Glad we’re almost back to our 80s bahahaha
Interesting chrono numbers. I just came here from one of your other videos where you were getting great numbers and penetrations off those .50 Deez rounds. So I come to this video and see those numbers number went way down! Glad you explained what happened with the colder weather I am interested in theses launchers for self defense here in California. I did just get the HDR 50 from "Hot Spot Airsoft" (the tuned up version) and he too made very clear the issues with cold temperature operations.
Deez bullets that's funny. There was a song by snoop dog but it's Deez nuts.I bet they heard that song. The 9mm is definitely the best. Keep up the good work and may God bless you and your loved ones...
Nice video man , keep it going! Sadly I live in an area with Joule restrictions that's why I make slugs myself to try to get the maximum dmg out of my 7.5j. Why not make a video/contest for self made slugs from viewers? Everyone that wants to compete sends 18 Rounds and u test with pcp and HDR. I would send some ✌🏼
Hey Ben! That’s a great idea, I had actually thought about it. What I need to do is set up a PO Box so ppl can send me their stuff. Something I’ve been wanting to do for a long time. Great minds my friend! And thank you as always!
CIAO MITICOOOOO Scusa l'assenteismo ma in questo periodo ho avuto decisamente un sacco di impegni che mi hanno tenuto lontano dal pc, ed anche un paio di infortuni che hanno complicato il tutto... infatti non ho più registrato nulla. Almeno tu sempre in formissima e sempre video spettacolari!! Qui ormai fa -7° e la co2 è meglio lasciarla nel cassetto...si aspetta la primavera per ricominciare a sparare!
Ciao grande!! Sei mancato ma vai tranquillo. È sempre meglio essere lontani dagli schermi, quindi molto bene! Meno bene per gl’infortuni di cui spero ti sia completamente ripreso. Mi dispiace tantissimo! Vai di té caldo e tanti libri… riapri il casserto ad Aprile/Maggio che è meglio! Aspettiamo con ansia le bellezze naturali che ci fai sognare ogni volta con i tuoi video… Un abbraccione Paolo e grazie come sempre!
Dude, what a great comparison test, thank you for sharing it! I've only tried the "devastators" with my HDR50 (11J), which I find quite decent (in terms of penetration, shooting plastic water bottles and aluminum cans from a distance of 10-12 feet, at 30-35 degrees C), but I'll make sure to go get a couple of boxes of Cododo 9mm bullets and try them out myself! I mean, on the basis of your test results, they must be the most suitable HDR50 ammo for home-defense that is currently available on the market. And it is no small thing, when an airgun bullet fulfils that purpose :-)
Alright mate👍 can't decide witch ones where best all preformed in different ways either way would not like to be on the other side of them 🤣 happy your subs are going up personally I think you should have way more as your vids get better and the beast air gun channel on here . As always keep up the great work 👍
Hope the Universe listens my friend! I’ll keep working hard to make them vids better and better. The most important is that I have fun and that you enjoy them. Thank you as always Stuart!
A very well produced test of 5 different projectiles just a pity the gun or temperature caused low fps maybe have your 11 joule spiced up a little remove valve block/ restrictor and yes I'm a PCP and Less Lethal fan so anything you bring on I'm always enjoying it thanks so much my friend .from LL 🇿🇦
Well thank you so much as always Mogamed. You’re always so kind! Yes that was the absolute wrong day to be making such an important video! My HDR 50 was completely depressed, it’s simply not used to temperatures under 25C! But I guess it’s a good realistic gage for most people who legally can’t modify their guns and own lower powered ones. All the best to you my SA friend!!
@@AirgunAlley Dear AA. Hi, I think you did this test on the perfect day. I'm in the UK and I'm looking to protect myself when food and resources become scarce. It's good to know 'what' is going to perform the best in less-than-ideal conditions, I can't tell an attacker: "Hey, come back when the temperature is just right so my HDR will work at peak performance." ... No. You've done the community and people like me a solid... So many channels like yours, don't take people like me, living in an increasingly hostile environment in a country where I'm not legally allowed to defend myself or own anything harmful, into consideration. So, I thank you sir!
I appreciate you sir! Damn, 900 FPS is good! Yea I remember gaining around 50 FPS with the XM4 mount. It was just a lazy day for my HDR 50 I guess, she didn’t like the weather I suppose cos never did she perform so poorly! Thanks again Star!
Spot on! I’ve been wanting to do this video for a very long time and of course I filmed it on the coldest day of the year aaand youtube took four days to review it for monetization. But it’s finally here :) Zrams unfortunately don’t stay straight in the Dragon Claw…. BUT… cododo just sent me saboted 308 bullets designed specifically for the Dragon!! They’re on the way and I can’t wait to make that video!! Have a wonderful day Mihai and thank you always!!
my frend ; Thanks for another informative and entertaining video. i felt like i was watching clint eastwood movies for a while.. hahaha.. You defeated the gang of the evil plastic water container for 5 people entering the town.. With your rifle, only one bullet was enough.
Man I need to script all this in my next video! Or even better, once I’ll actually be able to make some money with this thing - I’ll just hire you as screenwriter!! Hahahaha I love it! Thank you so much my friend! My Western roots are really coming out on my channel 🤠
Hi Sully! Shoot I'm not too sure on which is the best grease... sorry! Check with Rune Rebel or DK Spenser. As for the silicon oil, this is what I use and am very happy with! amzn.to/3wlKUuj Good luck!
The temperature was in the low 50s F (around 14C). I think my gun (like my dog) are just not used to it. My dog was shivering uncontrollably for two days 😂 and my HDR 50 got very depressed. It was the worst day to make that video!
Well in my mind I wanted to compare all the entries on one board. But as I rewatched the footage I also asked my self the same thing. Hehe good for next time ;)
Great video, and great comparison and for me surprising results... for some reason I thought that Zram would be the winner of this video. Looking forward to the next video :D - I think it's cool that you also try out pcp rifles, I really like the way you make the videos entertaining... I would properly also watch your videos if you made a spagetti-o cooking Chanel :D Thank you for the videos :D
Hahahaha I hope to never have to resort to a soaghettiO cooking channel, but that is one of the best and kindest comments I’ve ever gotten. Thank you so much Henrik! I think the Zram haven’t shown their real potential in my videos yet. I’m sure we’ll see how great they are when the ballistic dummy gets here. I suspect they’ll be among the most damaging on that…. But we’ll see!
Hey my friend, thank you so much!! Yess I hope to make a full video on the arrows soon! I’ve had so many “to do” videos to complete. I tried them briefly against a ballistic dummy, they worked veeeeery well! Have you seen that one? HDR 50 vs Ballistic Dummy ua-cam.com/video/a-xFUPEKuxY/v-deo.html
I think that you should try an accuracy test .. Maybe 15 or 20 feet. Of your pistols and rounds. Something different would be appreciated. To see how the rounds fly. Thanks..
Great information! I usually buy what you recommend. As a disabled veteran, my alley is my hallway in my apartment; seven meters long and luckily I have thick walls to keep the sound down! I hope to never use my ammo on an intruder, but I am ready with my Scilian - (Spaghetti) Texan Cowboy approved .50 caliber "pro-ject-tiles". I can't wait for the Carabinieri to show up when the threat is immediately in front of me! (Also, who was your camera operator that followed your movements during the intro?)
Jerry, if the Carabinieri show up - give me a call. I may know a Maresciallo that’ll get you out of trouble. He owes me a favor or two! And thank you for the trust, amico mio! You wanna know who my cameraman was? Best to just show you: amzn.to/3krjZux 😂😂😂
Dear AAM it's been three days i've suscribed to your channel and all this time I got so many usufull information on airguns. Thanks a lot for your awasome content. Do you think my 30 joules modified hdr 50, which came to my hands yesterday, could penatrate both sides of the same targets using the same ammo? Greetings from Athens Greece. The tempeperature here is over 21 Celcius degrees expecting to be about 28-30 next days. Will this affect the CO2 for better perfomance? Maybe I'm asking dump questions but I'm newbe to this sport. Sorry for my non google translate english!!! 😊😊Watching you destroy all these spaggetti cans drives me crazy!!! 😀😀
Hi my friend and thank you so much! Wow 30 joules HDR 50!! That’s amazing power and tes, it will penetrate most soft targets and crack hard ones. Absolutely, the hotter it is the more powerful the CO2 becomes. Thank you again
Can't wait to see you switch on long range shooting with slugs 200+ yards with something like fx impact m3 or Airgun Technology Vulcan 3 .25 or .30 cal for better slug stability.
Hahaha thanks man, those are all great ideas! I just upped my power with some PCP rifles, so I’m making my way up there. Next video, I hope, should be long range tests with my new Seneca Dragon Claw and custom made saboted 308 bullets! Stay tuned my friend and thanks again for the suggestions
Been watching a lot of your videos and became a subscriber. I'm on my first week of waiting for my HDR 50 11j to arrive. In the meantime, I'm trying to educate myself as much as possible and have been learning a lot thanks to your videos. I do have one question since you do fire these guns more than anyone. Has any of this ammo ever jammed up in the barrel of these HDR 50s? Eagerly awaiting your response and thanks for the great videos!
Hi my friend and great question. In all honesty the revolvers are the guns that have jammed the least in my experience. I can’t even recall once. The only downside, and many will argue against me, is that they are not very accurate. You further you are from your target, the more you risk missing… hope this helps!
Good to hear that at least these guns are dependable. As for being air-powered I kind of expected them to be less accurate at longer distance. I greatly appreciate your response knowing you're such a busy guy!
It shouldn't be difficult to machine a special drum so that this revolver can fire pellets and pellets smaller than 6mm and 4.5mm. This would allow for a gradual progression in strength, for self-defense situations. the first 3 shots could be the gun's original 12mm balls (rubber, polymer and aluminum), the fourth shot could be a steel ball in the 6mm casing (to pierce and bleed the aggressor); the fifth shot is a 4.5mm steel ball (to have greater piercing power) and the last shot from the weapon is a 4.5mm penetration pellet (to transfix the aggressor). It begins with traumatic and painful impacts with low lethality, and ends with piercing shots with greater lethality.
Haha no I think it was just a bad day. My HDR 50 (and my dog for that matter) don’t do well under 25C (or 70F). My dog laid on the couch and shivered for the two days it was cold, and my HDR… well…. as we saw, got very depressed or in better words… depressurized. Bad day to film such an important video
Merci beaucoup my friend! That’s true, but in France you are actually advantaged compared to us in the US. Most brands (including Umarex) are european… hopefully the laws will not change!!
I think too much of everything is not good. You don’t want to splatter the mechanisms making them soggy. A few extra drops however I think are just fine
Here you go my friend: 9MM: www.etsy.com/it/listing/1409499621/cododo-18x-super-heavy-9mm-tip-pellets?click_key=bedcbda5b05441c16bfa9740dfaabfc4e52a6b11%3A1409499621&click_sum=3ac65e16&ref=shop_home_active_1 DEVASTATOR: amzn.to/3CPlUhY Z-RAM: ebay.us/bt1h8W DEEZ BÜLLETS: ebay.us/NDdIyP JAW-DROPPERS: ebay.us/qNYVbN
There really needs to be an investigation into the prevalence of belligerent cowboys in the Miami area looking to fight it out with air guns... and why they all look so similar! The whole thing about you getting into PCP guns I find really puzzling. I mean, you totally carved out a little niche for yourself with the CO2 guns. You can't go having a bigger niche, that can be very confounding! 😉 Those 336 grain 50 cal slugs I picked up work great in my Wing Shot II. If you want to try some out in your Dragon Claw, let me know and I'll see about getting some to you.
Hahahahahhaha man you literally cracked me up and comforted me all in one message! Thank you for offering to share on your great 336 grain 50 cals deal! I might take you up on that. I have some ideas for the boxes I have already and I have some saboted 308 bullets by CODODO on the way… I’m gonna confuse the heck out of all the niches ahahaha with great content (I hope!)
Great vid content bro 😎👍!!! Hey quick question, will the zrams fit in the regular cilynder but with the tuning run and extension barrel on the end. The Devastaters are very very snug. So anything else even a smudge bigger would probably blow my tuning barrel and who knows what else. Any knowledge on the subject would mean alot... Thanks 🙏
Hi. I've the HDR 68. I'm wondering if these ball bearing/bullet projectiles are repairable after separating from their plastic flights. If not, which seem most durable. The 9mm's look tasty, and appear to be repairable with a drop of glue?? Thanks
Hehe this video was ready for Sunday morning, but it took UA-cam 4 days to review it for monetization. I’m thankful for the green light! But yes, a bit late :) gracias hermano!
i always heard many years ago ,if a projectile penetrates a 1/2 inch soft pine board then it is lethal . so from 1 foot to 1000 yards , at any distance if it goes through , then its lethal !!! i shot a 1/2 inch pine board with my less than lethal HDP.50 that puts out 25.44 joules first shot and the 8.53 steel ball maybe went 1/2 way in ,no full penetration ,,,,, it was at about 8 ft . that would still cause a very nasty bruise . now if i shot a zram , it might do a little better . ANYWAYS GOOD SHOW MY AWESOME COOL ITALIAN BROTHER , " VOUS ÊTES SECONDAIRE À PERSONNE ",,,, from your French brother LOL !!!!!! VIDEO IS A HR OLD ,IM 45th LIKE , 251 VIEWS SO FAR !!!!
Hahaha I love spaghetti, but not ones that come in a can :) No u fortunately I don’t have modification videos. I think best channel for that is Rune Rebel or DK Spenser… good luck my friend!
I have only use the hard plastic bullets . Shot hard metal and brick walls with them. They all came out without any damage and could be reused. Not even a scratch on them. They are the lightest, very hard, durable and inexpensive compared to the special ammo. Seeing all of your video's i can say i don't like how all these special kinds of ammo fly. They seem less accurate and don't always fly straight as far as i could see. When you shot the ballistic dummy it was pretty obvious some did not fly straight. The aluminum balls are the best imo. Light hard and better trajectory then these specialized types. The z ram are overrated imo. They look nice but seeing how they fly i don't think they are worth that much money. I will buy the aluminum balls soon and maybe the ceramics if i can find them. The rest can not persuade me, when i see them shot in different youtube videos. I make the same dents in metal plates and penetrate these water jugs and wood with the hard plastic ones. Since it is for home defense you will not be shooting in windy environments and it is used for short distances too, so there's no need for extra mass imo. In the formula to calculate the power, speed is more important than mass. Thanks for the great content! Keep on going :)
I think the lighter ones, the Devastator should work. And they’re the most common and easy to find. Otherwise check out the Homedefence-24.com selection. Again anything under 4g should work well…
You're 'Airgun Alley' not 'Less Lethal Alley'. I'm sure many less lethal guys were airgun guys first. I still am. i found your channel when you got your pellet guns. I got into less lethal at about the same time you did. I have a pcp, i think i will use it to kill some chef boy rd beans n weenies, the ones that poisoned me.
You are absolutely right and I thank you so much for that! I’ll AIRGUN alley for crying out loud!! Hahahaha 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽 that’s what PCP is all about man, take revenge on poisonous food!
Nice test but... your projectile speeds(fps) as well as power (fpe) is is really not very impressive. For example on devastators which weigh around 4.7 grams your first shot was only 199 fps - that is 8 joules. I upgraded my hdr 50, power kit 50,shorter pin, removed valve block, drilled the ristrictor to 1.5 mm, added longer barrel. On Co2 yellow ultraair asg I got on devastator first shot 404 fps which is around 36 joules, next shots were 29,32,29,28,25. One capsule of Co2 will last 6-8 shots depending on weather - temperature.
I have to say, that I love your opening video clips. You have a creative skill my friend. Now I'm confused, and as a matter of fact, I'm devastated that my devastators aren't as devastating as I thought. Now I have to decide on whether to park the devastator rounds and drive the 9mm. I hate trying to make decisions like this, it hurts my brain box. Wait a minute . . . how can something hurt that doesn't exist 🤪. I'll ask my wife and see what she thinks. I'll let her brain box hurt this time around 😁. It's interesting that the 9mm passed through those water containers while others, including my beloved devastators didn't. I know, I'll mix them up. Not bad huh. See, I guess I have me a brain box after all 😁. Well, I'm going to have another cup of Joe ☕. See ya later.
You see how life gives you questions and answers all in one comment. Oh the beauty of it all! They’re all excellent, it really obviously depends on the gun and its power. Mine was just having a bad day that day. The 9mm are however truly the best ones I’ve shot so far. But alternating ammo in one or more magazines is the best way to go, I think. I’ll be doing an accuracy video at some point. That’ll be interesting. But for now let’s wait for that ballistic dummy guy!
@@AirgunAlley I've not been feeling great, but wanted to thumbs up and comment for support. Great video as always. Hope you and your family are well. All the best. Anna
Yes, but can you quail hunt with it? Just kidding... All the vids I've seen, especially yours, sceeam "BUY ONE!" I'll get one for my house in the USA, and I'll check if they're legal here in Mexico.
That’s a great question, I have no idea of their legality in Mexico. Maybe they have a “joules”’restriction, like in many countries. Let me know if you have any questions y suerte!!
Your channel literarily improves with each new video that you drop.
Everything from the effects, production and content is just awesome.
I cant understand why your sub numbers aren't triple what they are now!!
Anyone who shoots airguns for sport/fun needs to join this channel!!
I'm thinking that if you keep doing what your doing, those numbers will come.
I'm glad to be a part of this community!!!
Oh man, may the Universe listen to you and thank you so, so much for your kind words.
Indeed this new home has helped a lot with the filming space and I reinvest everything I earn from UA-cam into my next videos - so indeed I hope to only keep improving. You’ve always been there since the beginning, and I truly appreciate all your long time support my friend 🙏🏽
I find this " less than lethal" content highly informative and an excellent alternative for someone who is unwilling or unable to carry a firearm.
Dear AA. Hi, I think you did this test on the perfect day. I'm in the UK and I'm looking to protect myself when food and resources become scarce. It's good to know 'what' is going to perform the best in less-than-ideal conditions, I can't tell an attacker: "Hey, come back when the temperature is just right so my HDR will work at peak performance." ... No. You've done the community and people like me a solid... So many channels like yours, don't take people like me, living in an increasingly hostile environment in a country where I'm not legally allowed to defend myself or own anything harmful, into consideration. So, I thank you sir!
That is such a great point you make my friend! You’re absolutely right and I’m glad the two days of UK weather we had, were actually of help :)
It’s amazing how the storing temperature of the CO2 cartridges affects the power so drastically! Keep them warm my friend!
Excellent video. The image, the sound, the musical accompaniment.
HDR 50 works very well. Slugs are effective. I also like to shoot at targets to check the effects on impact.
Thank you Gaston for appreciating the details in my work, it’s such a pleasure 🙏🏽
Of course, target shooting is important… and fun! Keep it up my friend!
Great video as always. Super cool testing 😎👍. Thanks for the shout-out my friend 👍😃
Thank you Maestro! And it’s an absolute pleasure my friend 🙏🏽🙌🏼
Thank's, for the vídeo and your time in show us ,the power of co2 Guns!
My absolute pleasure Rogerio, I love making these videos. Thank you!
Bro you are really taking channel to the next level bravo💨💥
Thank you very much Mr Joe!! 🙌🏼 You’ve been very kind for not insulting the power of my gun in this video ahahahahahaha
That 9mm italy bullets, seems like good stuff.
They are. Truly among the best I’ve shot so far
U must fix the wood from both sides...left-as u did-and right side. U must provide the swinging of the wood. Left side its much easyer to penetrate cos the wood cant swing back. Like always:great slomos dude👍
Hey I agree. The Deez Büllets hit the looser part which was more “bouncy”. My “tunnel of destruction is a work in progress and will be improving it in time. Good point tho, thanks my friend!
I thought the same thing. Right side has cushion to absorb impact. Left side has less cushion and should penetrate better.
I love your videos and look forward to seeing more!
@@AirgunAlley And as the bullets can't penetrate more than 1 board. Maybe try 3mm, 4mm, 5mm, 6mm boards with each bullet.
Just rotate the board between shots
great work, awesome time and investigation to show, simply the best content.
I don’t know how I missed this incredibly kind comment! Thank you so so much and sorry for the late reply! Truly appreciate you 🙏🏽🙌🏼
I still think the z -ram are the best munition for self defense, only need more weight. The 9mm only came out of the cans because the small projectile came out of the white capsule. The z ram is a big projectile, but i think have more penetration and damage.
I agree with you! So far we haven’t seen the zram full potential. I’m sure the ballistic dummy will tell us a completely different story. The true story.
The cododos also do very well. The 9mm tip is very heavy and obviously bullet shaped, so it does very well with the extra power/weight once it separates from the sabot, for better penetration. Good input, thank you!
Enjoying the channel. Very entertaining and informative!!
Welcome aboard! And thank you very much my friend!
Like you literally answered a question i posted earlier with a whole video! Great one! Thank you!
Hahaha well, I’m very glad to have been able to help! My absolute pleasure :)
I’m glad you’re doing this. I just got an 11j HDR 50, and I’m very interested invusibg the optimal type of ammunition for a Joker load (alternating kinetic and pepper rounds).
My pleasure my friend! And you’re only now getting an HDR 50 11j? What did you have before? And that’s absolutely the best way to load!
@@AirgunAlley Ky first marker was a Byrna, than I got a Gavle. Both are good, but I had problems with the Byrna cracking the pepper rounds with the magazine’s spring pressure. With the hdr 50, there is no pressure on the pepper rounds, meaning no cracking issues.
greetings ✌
thx for another great production !
#progress
because of You - i'm instant fan of PCP :)
so keep -YOUR- style of this channel 💚
bardzo Ci dziękuję przyjacielu and I’m sorry for getting you addicted to PCP buahahaha! I hope you will soon have the chance to shoot it, you will love it! Thank you for the encouragement :) I’ll keep going like a train 💪🏼💪🏼🤠🤠
@@AirgunAlley :)))
Your Polish is getting better and better :)
heheh #respect ✌
maybe one day we will talk in Polish😁😉
greetings
All of these projectiles are devastating even at 0.50 cal. I'm not a PCP lover but keep doing what your doing. The visuals are great no matter what you shoot. I figure I might as well use a firearm instead of a PCP though if I'm looking to explode some fruit. Stay warm 😃
You’re absolutely right, my friend. And thanks for that, I’ll always keep making T4E related video, but as you said the visuals with PCP are nearly unlimited. Truly no need for firearms!
I’m obviously blessed to be living near vast space with open laws.
Whoof those two days in the 40s were brutal. Glad we’re almost back to our 80s bahahaha
Interesting chrono numbers. I just came here from one of your other videos where you were getting great numbers and penetrations off those .50 Deez rounds. So I come to this video and see those numbers number went way down! Glad you explained what happened with the colder weather I am interested in theses launchers for self defense here in California. I did just get the HDR 50 from "Hot Spot Airsoft" (the tuned up version) and he too made very clear the issues with cold temperature
operations.
Awesome! I’m very happy my videos have been somewhat helpful! And thank you so much for watching
Excellent!
Glad you liked it!
Excellent test, 9mm are impressive!
Thanks a lot Roger!
Deez bullets that's funny. There was a song by snoop dog but it's Deez nuts.I bet they heard that song. The 9mm is definitely the best. Keep up the good work and may God bless you and your loved ones...
Nice video man , keep it going! Sadly I live in an area with Joule restrictions that's why I make slugs myself to try to get the maximum dmg out of my 7.5j. Why not make a video/contest for self made slugs from viewers? Everyone that wants to compete sends 18 Rounds and u test with pcp and HDR. I would send some ✌🏼
Hey Ben! That’s a great idea, I had actually thought about it. What I need to do is set up a PO Box so ppl can send me their stuff. Something I’ve been wanting to do for a long time. Great minds my friend! And thank you as always!
Ho rivisto questo video😊😊... Sempre mitico
Hahaha grazie mille Matteo!! Incredibile sono quasi a 100 video 😱
Grazie ancora
Awesome shooting test bro!
Thanks a lot warrior!!
@@AirgunAlley welcome bro
Thanks for this test, I have justed ordered my HDR 50 today! (German version limited to 7.5 joules)
CIAO MITICOOOOO Scusa l'assenteismo ma in questo periodo ho avuto decisamente un sacco di impegni che mi hanno tenuto lontano dal pc, ed anche un paio di infortuni che hanno complicato il tutto... infatti non ho più registrato nulla. Almeno tu sempre in formissima e sempre video spettacolari!! Qui ormai fa -7° e la co2 è meglio lasciarla nel cassetto...si aspetta la primavera per ricominciare a sparare!
Ciao grande!! Sei mancato ma vai tranquillo. È sempre meglio essere lontani dagli schermi, quindi molto bene! Meno bene per gl’infortuni di cui spero ti sia completamente ripreso. Mi dispiace tantissimo!
Vai di té caldo e tanti libri… riapri il casserto ad Aprile/Maggio che è meglio! Aspettiamo con ansia le bellezze naturali che ci fai sognare ogni volta con i tuoi video…
Un abbraccione Paolo e grazie come sempre!
Dude, what a great comparison test, thank you for sharing it! I've only tried the "devastators" with my HDR50 (11J), which I find quite decent (in terms of penetration, shooting plastic water bottles and aluminum cans from a distance of 10-12 feet, at 30-35 degrees C), but I'll make sure to go get a couple of boxes of Cododo 9mm bullets and try them out myself! I mean, on the basis of your test results, they must be the most suitable HDR50 ammo for home-defense that is currently available on the market. And it is no small thing, when an airgun bullet fulfils that purpose :-)
Thank you so much! Absolutely the 9mm are truly great… let us know what you think once you get some :)
Super! Cada video és millor que l'anterior!
Thanx, Gràcies, ありがとう, Asante !
Gracias a ti mi hermano!! Thank you Marc!! 🙌🏼
Très bien ton comparatif...
Depuis la France 👍
Merci beaucoup mon ami!!
Grande ... I devastator sempre i migliori ma anche i Z RAM sn good!
D’accordissimo Matteo! Un abbraccio caro
Alright mate👍 can't decide witch ones where best all preformed in different ways either way would not like to be on the other side of them 🤣 happy your subs are going up personally I think you should have way more as your vids get better and the beast air gun channel on here . As always keep up the great work 👍
Hope the Universe listens my friend! I’ll keep working hard to make them vids better and better. The most important is that I have fun and that you enjoy them. Thank you as always Stuart!
Looking forward to PCP videos.
Thank you sir! Here are most of them :) ua-cam.com/play/PL4O6_xc0vffRvxsKf6F0iURADVsef5E8M.html&si=FheHLlnvbV5qZ2h6
Your new range has so much room for more activities
Limitless I would say! (Well, I do have neighbors on all sides) but as you said, there is so much more potential! Thanks Cameron!
A very well produced test of 5 different projectiles just a pity the gun or temperature caused low fps maybe have your 11 joule spiced up a little remove valve block/ restrictor and yes I'm a PCP and Less Lethal fan so anything you bring on I'm always enjoying it thanks so much my friend .from LL 🇿🇦
Well thank you so much as always Mogamed. You’re always so kind!
Yes that was the absolute wrong day to be making such an important video! My HDR 50 was completely depressed, it’s simply not used to temperatures under 25C!
But I guess it’s a good realistic gage for most people who legally can’t modify their guns and own lower powered ones.
All the best to you my SA friend!!
@@AirgunAlley Dear AA. Hi, I think you did this test on the perfect day. I'm in the UK and I'm looking to protect myself when food and resources become scarce. It's good to know 'what' is going to perform the best in less-than-ideal conditions, I can't tell an attacker: "Hey, come back when the temperature is just right so my HDR will work at peak performance." ... No. You've done the community and people like me a solid... So many channels like yours, don't take people like me, living in an increasingly hostile environment in a country where I'm not legally allowed to defend myself or own anything harmful, into consideration. So, I thank you sir!
9mm Cododo all day long brother!! if you have the 11j version use 9mm for self defense. your videos are amazing brother!!! keep it up
I appreciate very much Ricardo and I agree very much on the 9mm! Thank you again my friend!
Very informative
Great video
Thanks
Intro was gold lol
🙌🏼 thanks Devin!
Other dude put 6 small washers
and gain 900 FPS ...
XM4 frame makes difference as well
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Good Video Editing Homie.
I appreciate you sir! Damn, 900 FPS is good! Yea I remember gaining around 50 FPS with the XM4 mount. It was just a lazy day for my HDR 50 I guess, she didn’t like the weather I suppose cos never did she perform so poorly!
Thanks again Star!
Thank you.
Thank YOU!!
Must be one of the most hype videos! 💥 Dragon Claw with cododos and z-rams? 👉👈
Spot on! I’ve been wanting to do this video for a very long time and of course I filmed it on the coldest day of the year aaand youtube took four days to review it for monetization. But it’s finally here :)
Zrams unfortunately don’t stay straight in the Dragon Claw…. BUT… cododo just sent me saboted 308 bullets designed specifically for the Dragon!! They’re on the way and I can’t wait to make that video!!
Have a wonderful day Mihai and thank you always!!
@@AirgunAlley Thanks, all the best! :)
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Thanks for another informative and entertaining video.
i felt like i was watching clint eastwood movies for a while.. hahaha..
You defeated the gang of the evil plastic water container for 5 people entering the town..
With your rifle, only one bullet was enough.
Man I need to script all this in my next video! Or even better, once I’ll actually be able to make some money with this thing - I’ll just hire you as screenwriter!! Hahahaha I love it! Thank you so much my friend! My Western roots are really coming out on my channel 🤠
I opened mine up to modify alot of the grease was removed can you recommend a grease also can you send me the link to the oil u use on the co2
Hi Sully! Shoot I'm not too sure on which is the best grease... sorry! Check with Rune Rebel or DK Spenser. As for the silicon oil, this is what I use and am very happy with! amzn.to/3wlKUuj
Good luck!
What was the temperature? And thanks for another great video I look forward to the next video
The temperature was in the low 50s F (around 14C). I think my gun (like my dog) are just not used to it. My dog was shivering uncontrollably for two days 😂 and my HDR 50 got very depressed. It was the worst day to make that video!
Great video, my friend! Could you tell me which mods are in this HDR50? Thanks
Hi my friend. This is a factory HDR 50 11j, so basically comes with the 11 joules factory valve
@@AirgunAlley so no CO2 restrictor disk removed, right?
@@rafael.frigori exactly. MCS whom I bought it from says it’s a factory 11 joules, despite it being a TR50 and having the F stamped on the side.
Hello my friend.
Great approaches!
But my question is which sound track you used.😉
Gold test👌
Thank you very much! 🙌🏼
Hello véry good ne changez rien la classe👍☺
Tres bien monsieur Daniel, merci beaucoup!
Wondering why you don't rotate the boards ?
Well in my mind I wanted to compare all the entries on one board. But as I rewatched the footage I also asked my self the same thing. Hehe good for next time ;)
Would the 7.5 joule still be able to fire this ammo ? 😊
Yesssss!!!!!!!
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hi there the z ram is the best
Hi! Yes very true, they are excellent!
Almost 10000 subscribers
Hard to believe!! 🙌🏼 thanks for always being there Alan. It’s support like yours that kept me going thus far :)
Great video, and great comparison and for me surprising results... for some reason I thought that Zram would be the winner of this video. Looking forward to the next video :D - I think it's cool that you also try out pcp rifles, I really like the way you make the videos entertaining... I would properly also watch your videos if you made a spagetti-o cooking Chanel :D Thank you for the videos :D
Hahahaha I hope to never have to resort to a soaghettiO cooking channel, but that is one of the best and kindest comments I’ve ever gotten. Thank you so much Henrik!
I think the Zram haven’t shown their real potential in my videos yet. I’m sure we’ll see how great they are when the ballistic dummy gets here. I suspect they’ll be among the most damaging on that…. But we’ll see!
What about arrow slug????nice vid man.
Hey my friend, thank you so much!! Yess I hope to make a full video on the arrows soon! I’ve had so many “to do” videos to complete. I tried them briefly against a ballistic dummy, they worked veeeeery well! Have you seen that one? HDR 50 vs Ballistic Dummy
ua-cam.com/video/a-xFUPEKuxY/v-deo.html
I think that you should try an accuracy test .. Maybe 15 or 20 feet. Of your pistols and rounds. Something different would be appreciated. To see how the rounds fly. Thanks..
You are absolutely right! I just added it to ‘to do’ list. Thanks for the heads up
Great information! I usually buy what you recommend. As a disabled veteran, my alley is my hallway in my apartment; seven meters long and luckily I have thick walls to keep the sound down! I hope to never use my ammo on an intruder, but I am ready with my Scilian - (Spaghetti) Texan Cowboy approved .50 caliber "pro-ject-tiles". I can't wait for the Carabinieri to show up when the threat is immediately in front of me! (Also, who was your camera operator that followed your movements during the intro?)
Jerry, if the Carabinieri show up - give me a call. I may know a Maresciallo that’ll get you out of trouble. He owes me a favor or two!
And thank you for the trust, amico mio!
You wanna know who my cameraman was? Best to just show you: amzn.to/3krjZux 😂😂😂
I was also wondering how you did that. Great tip!
I have a aea Harpoon .50 I used these in it omg you should check out the speed
Dear AAM it's been three days i've suscribed to your channel and all this time I got so many usufull information on airguns. Thanks a lot for your awasome content. Do you think my 30 joules modified hdr 50, which came to my hands yesterday, could penatrate both sides of the same targets using the same ammo? Greetings from Athens Greece. The tempeperature here is over 21 Celcius degrees expecting to be about 28-30 next days. Will this affect the CO2 for better perfomance? Maybe I'm asking dump questions but I'm newbe to this sport. Sorry for my non google translate english!!! 😊😊Watching you destroy all these spaggetti cans drives me crazy!!! 😀😀
Hi my friend and thank you so much! Wow 30 joules HDR 50!! That’s amazing power and tes, it will penetrate most soft targets and crack hard ones. Absolutely, the hotter it is the more powerful the CO2 becomes.
Thank you again
Can't wait to see you switch on long range shooting with slugs 200+ yards with something like fx impact m3 or Airgun Technology Vulcan 3 .25 or .30 cal for better slug stability.
Hahaha thanks man, those are all great ideas! I just upped my power with some PCP rifles, so I’m making my way up there.
Next video, I hope, should be long range tests with my new Seneca Dragon Claw and custom made saboted 308 bullets! Stay tuned my friend and thanks again for the suggestions
Excelente ..
Gracias! 🙏🏽
Hi, is there an email to contact you through regarding sponsorships?
Hi! Yes, thanks for writing me at airgunalley@gmail.com !
Been watching a lot of your videos and became a subscriber. I'm on my first week of waiting for my HDR 50 11j to arrive. In the meantime, I'm trying to educate myself as much as possible and have been learning a lot thanks to your videos. I do have one question since you do fire these guns more than anyone.
Has any of this ammo ever jammed up in the barrel of these HDR 50s? Eagerly awaiting your response and thanks for the great videos!
Hi my friend and great question. In all honesty the revolvers are the guns that have jammed the least in my experience. I can’t even recall once. The only downside, and many will argue against me, is that they are not very accurate.
You further you are from your target, the more you risk missing… hope this helps!
Good to hear that at least these guns are dependable. As for being air-powered I kind of expected them to be less accurate at longer distance. I greatly appreciate your response knowing you're such a busy guy!
What size ammo do I have to get for my tr50 umarex T4e CO2 revolver
Very informative. Do you use the stock cylinders for all ammo types?
Hi Ryan, thanks a lot and yes, so far I’ve only used stock magazines… thanks again
It shouldn't be difficult to machine a special drum so that this revolver can fire pellets and pellets smaller than 6mm and 4.5mm. This would allow for a gradual progression in strength, for self-defense situations. the first 3 shots could be the gun's original 12mm balls (rubber, polymer and aluminum), the fourth shot could be a steel ball in the 6mm casing (to pierce and bleed the aggressor); the fifth shot is a 4.5mm steel ball (to have greater piercing power) and the last shot from the weapon is a 4.5mm penetration pellet (to transfix the aggressor). It begins with traumatic and painful impacts with low lethality, and ends with piercing shots with greater lethality.
Maybe time for a new tr50?
Haha no I think it was just a bad day. My HDR 50 (and my dog for that matter) don’t do well under 25C (or 70F). My dog laid on the couch and shivered for the two days it was cold, and my HDR… well…. as we saw, got very depressed or in better words… depressurized.
Bad day to film such an important video
Love this top 5. Not all of this ammo are easy to find in France 💀👍
Merci beaucoup my friend! That’s true, but in France you are actually advantaged compared to us in the US. Most brands (including Umarex) are european… hopefully the laws will not change!!
@@AirgunAlley Thanks you're right my friend. Have a beautiful new week 💀👍
Will too much silicone oil hurt the tr50??
I think too much of everything is not good. You don’t want to splatter the mechanisms making them soggy. A few extra drops however I think are just fine
How to buy bullet
Here you go my friend:
9MM: www.etsy.com/it/listing/1409499621/cododo-18x-super-heavy-9mm-tip-pellets?click_key=bedcbda5b05441c16bfa9740dfaabfc4e52a6b11%3A1409499621&click_sum=3ac65e16&ref=shop_home_active_1
DEVASTATOR: amzn.to/3CPlUhY
Z-RAM: ebay.us/bt1h8W
DEEZ BÜLLETS: ebay.us/NDdIyP
JAW-DROPPERS: ebay.us/qNYVbN
@@AirgunAlley How much t4e cal50 Philippines. Money
There really needs to be an investigation into the prevalence of belligerent cowboys in the Miami area looking to fight it out with air guns... and why they all look so similar!
The whole thing about you getting into PCP guns I find really puzzling. I mean, you totally carved out a little niche for yourself with the CO2 guns. You can't go having a bigger niche, that can be very confounding! 😉
Those 336 grain 50 cal slugs I picked up work great in my Wing Shot II. If you want to try some out in your Dragon Claw, let me know and I'll see about getting some to you.
Hahahahahhaha man you literally cracked me up and comforted me all in one message!
Thank you for offering to share on your great 336 grain 50 cals deal! I might take you up on that. I have some ideas for the boxes I have already and I have some saboted 308 bullets by CODODO on the way… I’m gonna confuse the heck out of all the niches ahahaha with great content (I hope!)
Great vid content bro 😎👍!!! Hey quick question, will the zrams fit in the regular cilynder but with the tuning run and extension barrel on the end. The Devastaters are very very snug. So anything else even a smudge bigger would probably blow my tuning barrel and who knows what else. Any knowledge on the subject would mean alot... Thanks 🙏
Hi. I've the HDR 68. I'm wondering if these ball bearing/bullet projectiles are repairable after separating from their plastic flights. If not, which seem most durable. The 9mm's look tasty, and appear to be repairable with a drop of glue?? Thanks
In clipul asta era pistol modificat sau stock?
15°c is tropical heat 🇨🇦
Hahahaha I figured you’d be laughing at me 😂
I'm waiting for Clint Eastwood to walk up with that Music In the background
Hahaha oh he will! Or Sam Elliot or Kevin Costner… one of those! 🤠
Bang, bang en la noche del miércoles.
Hehe this video was ready for Sunday morning, but it took UA-cam 4 days to review it for monetization. I’m thankful for the green light! But yes, a bit late :) gracias hermano!
I carry a 44 BP pistol, but also own an HDR50 11 joules. I prefer BP so I can ---- someone.
i always heard many years ago ,if a projectile penetrates a 1/2 inch soft pine board then it is lethal . so from 1 foot to 1000 yards , at any distance if it goes through , then its lethal !!!
i shot a 1/2 inch pine board with my less than lethal HDP.50 that puts out 25.44 joules first shot and the 8.53 steel ball maybe went 1/2 way in ,no full penetration ,,,,, it was at about 8 ft .
that would still cause a very nasty bruise . now if i shot a zram , it might do a little better .
ANYWAYS GOOD SHOW MY AWESOME COOL ITALIAN BROTHER , " VOUS ÊTES SECONDAIRE À PERSONNE ",,,, from your French brother LOL !!!!!! VIDEO IS A HR OLD ,IM 45th LIKE , 251 VIEWS SO FAR !!!!
Kabooom!! 🙌🏼👏🏼
@@AirgunAlley lol
muito bem revolver muito potenter top top der mais ja deixei o like eo 19
Muito obrigado my friend!! 🙌🏼
How can I get me a t h r 50
Chyba nie lubisz spaghetti 😅😅 , masz jakiś film jak krok po kroku zwiększyć moc w hdr68 z 16j na 40j ? . Pozdrawiam 💪🇵🇱
Hahaha I love spaghetti, but not ones that come in a can :)
No u fortunately I don’t have modification videos. I think best channel for that is Rune Rebel or DK Spenser… good luck my friend!
Good gracious, You could probably use rocks for ammo in that thing. That's why I bought one.
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HDR 68 is better than HDR 50 😎
Dude check out the umarex hammer 50 cal :0 that the big boy of this world
Oh I know, that rifle has me drooling 🤤 hope to shoot it soon! Thanks a lot for the heads up.
I’m also a huge fan of the Seneca Dragon Claw
A person would use a non lethal in any home defense case but a firearm would make a person hesitant because of the possible jail time.
I have only use the hard plastic bullets . Shot hard metal and brick walls with them. They all came out without any damage and could be reused. Not even a scratch on them. They are the lightest, very hard, durable and inexpensive compared to the special ammo. Seeing all of your video's i can say i don't like how all these special kinds of ammo fly. They seem less accurate and don't always fly straight as far as i could see. When you shot the ballistic dummy it was pretty obvious some did not fly straight. The aluminum balls are the best imo. Light hard and better trajectory then these specialized types. The z ram are overrated imo. They look nice but seeing how they fly i don't think they are worth that much money. I will buy the aluminum balls soon and maybe the ceramics if i can find them. The rest can not persuade me, when i see them shot in different youtube videos. I make the same dents in metal plates and penetrate these water jugs and wood with the hard plastic ones. Since it is for home defense you will not be shooting in windy environments and it is used for short distances too, so there's no need for extra mass imo. In the formula to calculate the power, speed is more important than mass. Thanks for the great content! Keep on going :)
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What's the most powerful for the 5 Joules UK version?
I think the lighter ones, the Devastator should work. And they’re the most common and easy to find. Otherwise check out the Homedefence-24.com selection. Again anything under 4g should work well…
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You're 'Airgun Alley' not 'Less Lethal Alley'. I'm sure many less lethal guys were airgun guys first. I still am. i found your channel when you got your pellet guns. I got into less lethal at about the same time you did. I have a pcp, i think i will use it to kill some chef boy rd beans n weenies, the ones that poisoned me.
You are absolutely right and I thank you so much for that! I’ll AIRGUN alley for crying out loud!! Hahahaha 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽 that’s what PCP is all about man, take revenge on poisonous food!
Nice test but... your projectile speeds(fps) as well as power (fpe) is is really not very impressive. For example on devastators which weigh around 4.7 grams your first shot was only 199 fps - that is 8 joules. I upgraded my hdr 50, power kit 50,shorter pin, removed valve block, drilled the ristrictor to 1.5 mm, added longer barrel. On Co2 yellow ultraair asg I got on devastator first shot 404 fps which is around 36 joules, next shots were 29,32,29,28,25. One capsule of Co2 will last 6-8 shots depending on weather - temperature.
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So what's better normal projectiles or devastators?
@@Abbathsin steel balls are slightly better than devastators energywise 🙂
@@thought_crime1979 not the rubber balls?
You must wait 5 second between every shot.
Or you must drill up that hole in the brick in the handle..1.5mm.
Ive drill it 2mm, and thats are MAX !
Good to know. Thanks man
I have to say, that I love your opening video clips. You have a creative skill my friend. Now I'm confused, and as a matter of fact, I'm devastated that my devastators aren't as devastating as I thought. Now I have to decide on whether to park the devastator rounds and drive the 9mm. I hate trying to make decisions like this, it hurts my brain box. Wait a minute . . . how can something hurt that doesn't exist 🤪. I'll ask my wife and see what she thinks. I'll let her brain box hurt this time around 😁. It's interesting that the 9mm passed through those water containers while others, including my beloved devastators didn't. I know, I'll mix them up. Not bad huh. See, I guess I have me a brain box after all 😁. Well, I'm going to have another cup of Joe ☕. See ya later.
You see how life gives you questions and answers all in one comment. Oh the beauty of it all!
They’re all excellent, it really obviously depends on the gun and its power. Mine was just having a bad day that day. The 9mm are however truly the best ones I’ve shot so far. But alternating ammo in one or more magazines is the best way to go, I think. I’ll be doing an accuracy video at some point. That’ll be interesting. But for now let’s wait for that ballistic dummy guy!
@@AirgunAlley looking forward to that. I do like the idea of that dummy guy. But I wonder how long it will last.
Hey bro I have a guy in USA looking to buy a tipx can I send him any contact details to get in touch with you?
Hey my friend! Wish I could help, but I gave my TiPX away a long time ago. But there are many online shops that sell them :) good luck!!
Maybe at some coke cans. That would be cool.
i want to buy byrna cal 68 from usa 😆
You should have changed the front and second board and also the co2 every time you changed ammunition.
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@@AirgunAlley I've not been feeling great, but wanted to thumbs up and comment for support. Great video as always. Hope you and your family are well. All the best. Anna
Yes, but can you quail hunt with it? Just kidding... All the vids I've seen, especially yours, sceeam "BUY ONE!" I'll get one for my house in the USA, and I'll check if they're legal here in Mexico.
That’s a great question, I have no idea of their legality in Mexico. Maybe they have a “joules”’restriction, like in many countries. Let me know if you have any questions y suerte!!
@@AirgunAlley Gracias amigo.👍
Waste of stuff that is really bad for you.
Hahhah yeah bet. You got big plus from me.
Good video
Not interested in entertainment. Looking forward to your expert analysis of the of PCP and CO2.