Going 2nd Became WAY BETTER!! - Cardfight Update

Greedon Masque is here!!, but what's more important is the brand new Messiah and the defensive option it brings to the game
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[@kaisuzugamori4173]

Defensive Power Creep I think it's good.
We need more defense in thks game sometimes

[@jayzuelvelasquez9137]

The Harmonics Messiah skills' inspiration came from vanguard zero. Vanguard zero will live through premium.

[@rensuzugamori2531]

I like the guardian shield a lot. All clans have access to an easy going first stride, meanwhile you can't g guard while you're on G2, so it makes sense that they give you a free 20k shield which is essentially a G-guard minus the effect.

[@muchluck7981]

But you can stack the guardian shield with the quick shield no? So you have 25K shield altogether

[@dabestgamer]

​@@muchluck7981 You can only use one Order per turn, so you can't use both the Quick Shield and Guardian Shield in the same turn, if that's what you're saying.

[@muchluck7981]

@@dabestgamer no. U just have 25k shield value by going 2nd with v starters

[@dabestgamer]

@@muchluck7981 If you're referring to just the total raw amount of Shield it gets you, then yeah, it's 25000. Just not able to use both in the same turn, which is how I initially read your comment.

[@Herberthmm]

So, the Desire Devil Saasyou cam make something with the Greedon promo (Desire Devil, Heekou), who need to bind another copy of to call himself to the field from the soul

[@ciphercode1075]

That effect is only while it's in the deck though and iirc, that promo needs to bind from the soul.
So far, the only thing I can think of that interacts with the 1st skill is the G2 rideline to put a copy itself into soul instead. How is that useful? I don't know, maybe in case you brick and drew/damage check all your copies so that you still can get the extra soul?

[@Herberthmm]

@@ciphercode1075 Oh right, the name effect is only on Deck.... oh god, why bushi, why lmao

[@Hunter_Sylar]

It's my hearing wrong or there's no background music?

[@VanguardInsider]

Correct I noticed this afterwards that the BGM track got muted

[@yoitsthattoastguy]

So they print the PR Harmonics from Zero but WAY better? Yeah no this is gonna be broken.

[@beatrizlavapie1310]

Not really. In Zero you don't need Harmonics face up on gzone to albe to ping you damage

[@yoitsthattoastguy]

@@beatrizlavapie1310 yes the turning it face up is different, but in Premium the ability to flip cards face up before G3 turn is a possibility and makes the ping pretty much free in certain decks. For all intents and purposes it's basically Zero Harmonics 2.0

[@xHarryHaroldX]

For now it seems very questionable design to make ALL of the really good greedon suport cards instantly useless.
It does open deck space tho, and with constent 4 attacks without needing to draw into certain cards.
But we'll have to see if they will release any spicy suport cards in this set.

[@BurningMessiah]

can i still play the promo harmonics and use this new effect or do i need this new version to play it

[@dabiblues2711]

You can play the promo one as the updated errata version

[@govege5130]

so going first got even worse now. what could they possibly do to make both going second and first balanced?

[@govege5130]

also pretty good in neo nectar for more tokens with katrina

[@VanguardInsider]

Keep in mind in this same set we get the erated strides that allowed you you stride into them on turn 3 when going first while also getting 2 gift markers so I wouldn't say going 2nd is better then going 1ste

[@werewolfjedi38]

It feels like a balancing factor. 2 force markers vs a 20k shield? Sounds like they just did the math.