If you're doing this yourself in your garage beware that getting the OEM pan will be your biggest problem. Get a putty knife and cut the existing seal. Then you may be able to use a dead-blow hammer to remove the pan the rest of the way. The video shows the techs using a 2x4 to pry the pan off. This may work on a lift but you'll have clearance issues if you're working under the car (jack-stands only). (As per Chris at KBMS): FujiBond, HondaBond, ThreeBond, and applicable permatex products will work just fine.
Thank you for this! I am doing the install over the weekend and wasn't sure on a gasket. Fujibond is $60 at the dealer when I called. And HondaBond I can get on Amazon tomorrow for $16 bucks! w00t w00t!
Seeing the stock exhaust manifold go back on was hard lol. Why was the killerb oil pan even put on the car? I definitely understand the killerb pick up and baffle. That was the first thing I replaced in my STI.
To gain access to the dipstick tube mounting bolt on the top of the engine. removing the air pump motor is pretty easy. 3 bolts, a hose clamp, and electrical connector.
Only if you're coming from an older 'flat bottom' style oil pan and you want the dipstick to read OEM accurate for 'full'. Some coming from the flat bottom pan will simply add a new 'full' level mark on the dipstick and call it a day.
So I noticed an adapter that goes between the pickup and the block... i bought the oil pickup and baffle combo and did not get that adapter piece... 06 wrx by the way
More oil will bring oil temps down a little bit, but the biggest benefit is improve oiling under higher cornering loads and improved oil condition (more oil doing less work).
My combo kit did not contain printed instructions. I'm unsure which bolts and parts go where. This video does not show which bolts go where when putting everything back together.
the two black flanged bolts are used for the pickup legs and baffle along with the square spacers. The two blue bolts and lock washers are used for the pickup flange along with the flange spacer. The remaining should be self explanatory upon removal of the old pan. Shoot us an e-mail if you'd like additional information,
How tf did you get the back bolts of the sump out? I’ve been under my car and by the looks of it I’ll have to drop engine mounts and Jack the motor up for clearance to access the back bolts of the pan but you didn’t do that in the video. Or maybe you did but everything happened so fast I couldn’t tell
1 - Seems there could be a third pan option that doesn't have the huge dent to clear the el header and add almost another quart of capacity. 2 - How do you slap that pan on before oil seeps back on the engine flange? 😆 I remove honda pans almost every week for one reason or another, and the oil never seems to stop seeping, it's maddening. 😆 You have to be faster than gravity to beat the oil.
The dish is not only for EL headers, but to hold oil around the oil pickup. One of the reason the older flat bottom oil pans don't work nearly as well as the newer dished in version. Try removing the pan when the oil is REALLY hot. It will run out a lot faster and is easier to soak up. Then jam some rags up into the back webbing to let it soak up as much oil as possible before final clean up and putting the pan in place.
First off, great vid of the process... this makes it seem very much less daunting than I thought it would be for a DIY project. I was wondering is there a quick list of the steps taken here... mainly to check if this is something one can do in the driveway on a nice day with just the basic hand tools available.
Can you install baffle and pickup on stock pan? Looking for budget reliablilty.. and also what the best aos for stock motor, turbo, full exhaust minus headers? Any advice would be awesome. Love the channel!
You can install the pickup and baffle in a stock pan. You will need the EJ25 pickup for the STi pan. Please check out our AOS: www.killerbmotorsport.net/oiling-products/air-oil-separation.html
It prevents the engine from being starved of oil during vigorous driving due to G forces and the plate stops the oil from getting sloshed around by the crankshaft. It also increases oil capacity. Best to buy it with their oil pickup aswell
Can this be done without removing the headers? Looking at our 07 STi it does not seem that it would be in the way. However I see that you have to use some forced effort to dislodge the OEM pan. Is that why you remove the header, to get that leverage with the pry bars? Thx
It's WAY easier to perform the procedure with the headers out of the way. I have heard of some that have not gone this route, but I promise you will have more bloody knuckles and swear a lot more if you don't remove them. I also know of some how have attempted, and ended up pulling the headers off anyway after not being able to get the pan off. I know you have to buy header gaskets, but it's well worth the cost of much less frustration.
Part number from 2006-2019 are unchanged. If the manufacturing process (or design) changes, Subaru issues a new part number that succeeds the old part number. That has not happened for this part.
I noticed a mistake on the install. You reinstalled the oem exhaust manifold instead of a killer b elh 😂.
If you're doing this yourself in your garage beware that getting the OEM pan will be your biggest problem. Get a putty knife and cut the existing seal. Then you may be able to use a dead-blow hammer to remove the pan the rest of the way. The video shows the techs using a 2x4 to pry the pan off. This may work on a lift but you'll have clearance issues if you're working under the car (jack-stands only).
(As per Chris at KBMS): FujiBond, HondaBond, ThreeBond, and applicable permatex products will work just fine.
Thank you for this! I am doing the install over the weekend and wasn't sure on a gasket. Fujibond is $60 at the dealer when I called. And HondaBond I can get on Amazon tomorrow for $16 bucks! w00t w00t!
Solid investment, solid product. Installed this back in the days in my 2004 WRX STi.
Seeing the stock exhaust manifold go back on was hard lol. Why was the killerb oil pan even put on the car? I definitely understand the killerb pick up and baffle. That was the first thing I replaced in my STI.
It's a benefit for track use; preventing oil starvation. On this car, it's more for stretching out OCIs.
Why did you remove the secondary air pump?
To gain access to the dipstick tube mounting bolt on the top of the engine. removing the air pump motor is pretty easy. 3 bolts, a hose clamp, and electrical connector.
the kit requires the dipstick tube to be changed?
Only if you're coming from an older 'flat bottom' style oil pan and you want the dipstick to read OEM accurate for 'full'. Some coming from the flat bottom pan will simply add a new 'full' level mark on the dipstick and call it a day.
So I noticed an adapter that goes between the pickup and the block... i bought the oil pickup and baffle combo and did not get that adapter piece... 06 wrx by the way
The spacers only need to be added when using our oil pan as well. So with the OEM pan, no spacers; you're good! :)
@@KillerBMotorsport good to know! Thanks for getting back to me promptly. That's awesome customer service!
what are the perks of getting the pan? i have an 07 but it's nearly stock so i was thinking i'd only need the baffle and pickup.
More oil will bring oil temps down a little bit, but the biggest benefit is improve oiling under higher cornering loads and improved oil condition (more oil doing less work).
My combo kit did not contain printed instructions. I'm unsure which bolts and parts go where. This video does not show which bolts go where when putting everything back together.
the two black flanged bolts are used for the pickup legs and baffle along with the square spacers. The two blue bolts and lock washers are used for the pickup flange along with the flange spacer. The remaining should be self explanatory upon removal of the old pan. Shoot us an e-mail if you'd like additional information,
How tf did you get the back bolts of the sump out? I’ve been under my car and by the looks of it I’ll have to drop engine mounts and Jack the motor up for clearance to access the back bolts of the pan but you didn’t do that in the video. Or maybe you did but everything happened so fast I couldn’t tell
We do unbolt the motor mounts and lift the engine a little. It doesn't have to be much.
Does anyone know what the oil lines in the oil pan were next to the drain plug
Can you give me a time stamp in the video where you see this?
I love this song!
Would this fit on a 2017 wrx?
Sorry but this is for the EJ engine. The car you mentioned has an FA20.
@@KillerBMotorsport thank you for the fast response. Was asking for a friend
Do you need to replace header gaskets after taking it off?
Yes. Any exhaust components removed need to have the gaskets replaced.
1 - Seems there could be a third pan option that doesn't have the huge dent to clear the el header and add almost another quart of capacity. 2 - How do you slap that pan on before oil seeps back on the engine flange? 😆 I remove honda pans almost every week for one reason or another, and the oil never seems to stop seeping, it's maddening. 😆 You have to be faster than gravity to beat the oil.
The dish is not only for EL headers, but to hold oil around the oil pickup. One of the reason the older flat bottom oil pans don't work nearly as well as the newer dished in version. Try removing the pan when the oil is REALLY hot. It will run out a lot faster and is easier to soak up. Then jam some rags up into the back webbing to let it soak up as much oil as possible before final clean up and putting the pan in place.
To push the motor/tranny up with that jack you had there with the block on it, did you have to loosen any motor mounts or anything else?
Pitch stop is loosened (or removed), as well as a motor mount nut on each side.
First off, great vid of the process... this makes it seem very much less daunting than I thought it would be for a DIY project.
I was wondering is there a quick list of the steps taken here... mainly to check if this is something one can do in the driveway on a nice day with just the basic hand tools available.
Will this fit VA STi with the ITS brush gaurd?
I haven't tested on the ITS specifically, but it does fit with most.
Is the oem pan still usable if you only want the baffle and oil pick up?
Yes sir
Maybe time to update this video? 480p?
I agree!
Can you install baffle and pickup on stock pan? Looking for budget reliablilty.. and also what the best aos for stock motor, turbo, full exhaust minus headers? Any advice would be awesome. Love the channel!
You can install the pickup and baffle in a stock pan. You will need the EJ25 pickup for the STi pan. Please check out our AOS: www.killerbmotorsport.net/oiling-products/air-oil-separation.html
why do this wo doing the elh? sry very interested. thank in advance. getting both..
Do you need to use the Killer B oil pan or will the OEM pan work with the pickup and baffle?
Our pickups work with OEM pan and baffle no problem. The EJ25 version will work with both OEM and our pan.
This is the most important question on this video! Thank you killer B! 🏁💯🔥
What is the benefit of the Killer B oil pan? And is it absolutely necessary to lift the engine to install the oil pick up on an 02 wrx? Thanks.
It prevents the engine from being starved of oil during vigorous driving due to G forces and the plate stops the oil from getting sloshed around by the crankshaft. It also increases oil capacity. Best to buy it with their oil pickup aswell
How much for 06 WRX wagon?
You guys want to make one of these setups for the EZ30R? 💰
Can this be done without removing the headers? Looking at our 07 STi it does not seem that it would be in the way. However I see that you have to use some forced effort to dislodge the OEM pan. Is that why you remove the header, to get that leverage with the pry bars? Thx
It's WAY easier to perform the procedure with the headers out of the way. I have heard of some that have not gone this route, but I promise you will have more bloody knuckles and swear a lot more if you don't remove them. I also know of some how have attempted, and ended up pulling the headers off anyway after not being able to get the pan off. I know you have to buy header gaskets, but it's well worth the cost of much less frustration.
How much additional oil you have to put in after installing that oil pan?
Total capacity after installing our Performance Oil Pan is 6 quarts :)
Greetings.
Do you know, if the OEM pickups after 2007 or 2008 changed their part number, or remastered its manufacturing process?
Part number from 2006-2019 are unchanged. If the manufacturing process (or design) changes, Subaru issues a new part number that succeeds the old part number. That has not happened for this part.
What product does Killer B recommend to reseal the oil pan?
any factory grade rtv sealent
@@KillerBMotorsport will Threebond 1215 be ok for the oil pan ?
@@duckmansweb Yes sir
Took about an Hour?
much easier to install on a fresh block...I mean who hasn't blown up their first few builds?