Their publisher leaving was probably the best thing that happened to them. The game sounds so much better with this new model. The typical f2p model with cash shops are so overdone it's an instant turn off for many people.
Because people like cash shops, no matter how much they cry and gripe about them, they still spend hundreds of dollars, then come to social media and tell people how much they hate it.
@@CatalepticHunter i mean you hate games you have to pay for w/subscription and you hate games that are free but have a cash shop. What do you want lol
Worth noting that every armor and weapon piece you pick up unlocks their style that can be freely swapped and recolored in transmog sort of system Also, armor is multiplicative with stats from your gear, meaning its value increases the better gear you get
That's how it was for my buddies and me also. We weren't sure of doing it as an mmo... but after this pivot, it's legitimately better for how we play games. We bought it before 1.0, after the echos rework. We were already happy with the purchase, and now it's even better with 1.0
@@buddybarlow9604 10% off right now. seems like worth a shot not normally my kinda game but looks fun as long as it has enough player base for partying. im cool with playing solo alot but grouping up can add some more life to a game for me
I want give it a try, but holly moly there is literally no good looking characters that makes me want to play, being male of female... why cant game devs allow us to play with hot characters?
Bought the game a week ago on a sale and have been having a blast. Has a huge amount of depth and content. One boss fight really surprised me, complex but not dumb. Worth the $$ for me so far for sure, 100% recommend
I cannot stress enough how much this game deserves to succeed. The devs believed in it enough to bring their vision to life, and the passion and love shine through in every aspect. It is a blast to play, there is so much to do, and the story isn't half bad from what I'd played of the first two chapters. Also, for those in the D&D community, also dropping with the 1.0 release is the game's first cosmetic DLC, and it's a Critical Role crossover. I'm not super into Critical Role myself, but I'll definitely be picking it up to show the devs some love!
@@E621_Rule34 I'm a little unsure how "providing an offline mode with p2p multiplayer, and reducing scope from a huge scale MMO to a smaller scale ARPG...something that barely anyone else is doing in the market right now...constitutes "following trends." What trend? The "trend" is to turn every repetitive loot based game into a "huge scale MMO and/or live service." To MOST games' detriment and inevitable shut down. There are countless examples of such trend-chasers that died horrible deaths doing that exact thing. Airship Syndicate said "we can't do the big scale thing, you know, the thing everyone else is doing...so we're scaling down scope," and so far, it's working out well for them. Reviews are looking better, they're adding more content. Growth to better player numbers will be slow, but more and more people are being impressed with the offering, and that's great.
@@RedShadowOfSaturn high-rez is the one doing that. The guys who made realm royale, leathal company, paladins etc. This game is probs gonna die for how niche it is.
@@E621_Rule34 Yes, you already mentioned that ONE studio. Now name me the 10, 20, 30 or even 40 other studios doing that that CREATES a trend. Do I need to define the word "trend" for you? Also, it's hard for a game that's no longer a live service to "die." It's getting updates but no longer being a fully online MMO style game with a cash shop means they can update at whatever pace they want and players can come and go as they please. It's not about "dying" for them.
@@RedShadowOfSaturn when it comes to MMO this game isnt even that in a sense. "Massive mulitplaer online" isnt even what this game is anymore.its a single player expirience so the MMO aspects are a waste with no online part in sight. Its gonna pull a reumbleverse and die for being niche. You dont understand that without a genere or trend to fall into. No ones gonna play it. May not get shut down but it for sure wont be talked about or grow.
Airship syndicate deserves the praise. They make fun games and im glad theybare branching out a bit with this game. Hope its successful enough to fund other project's down the line
How is it? They just got money from DE to develop and have them under their publishing rights for money if they succeed. Its all Wayfinder devs fault they fucked up so bad with MMO version, its not just some 1 or 2 things, they were going downhill since a year or so before even EA, as people were questioning their decisions and wtf they're thinking doing X or Z, they couldn't even deliver half of the roadmap they promised for half a year and if you said anything about it you would either be muted or banned in their discord lol
The publishers also have the ability to affect development, don't you know that, creating deadlines, deciding what makes the cut or not, that's why alot of indie devs usually refuse publishers 😅@@ChoJun69
@@ChoJun69 It's not all AS fault, DE takes most of that blame. Many bugs were due to server / hardware issues and the servers were provided by..... DE ofc! Some decisions made by AS were questionable, but they always listened to the community and acted on it. Saying "Its all Wayfinder devs fault" is very disingenuous. Also about the part show me proof or it didn't happen. I have been in that discord server for ever and never have I seen an unjust ban. The getting "muted or banned" claims were greatly exaggerated by unhappy players to "stir the pot" more.
They broke away from [DE]vil and Tencent. 100% win. DE lost their soul the second they didn't band together and walk out the door after Tencent took over. Now they've forgotten what happened when they were a no-name, bankrupt studio and Sunpo Food Holding saw them through and believed in them. Instead, they trash their "friends" and ditch them the second they're not the next Fortnite.
Bought this game with the highest founders pack on first day of early access. I can’t explain how happy I am that it’s making healthy changes. From the art to the combat I love this game down to the last pixel
I like the current state of the game as opposed to the original mmo concept honestly. The biggest issue with mmo's is trying to prioritize that playing with others in an open playground setting versus actually making quality content that makes a player want to log into the game. MMO's get repetitive and I think this game can really shake things up by giving the dungeon crawler experience the breath of fresh new air it sorely needs.
It's basically the absolutely opposite to the naive, delusional wet fantasies of some diehard MMO enthusiasts (but also to what people playing other games sometimes succumb to): That more allegedly always means better. More/bigger world, more players, more quests, more NPCs, more skins, more weapons, more achievements, more everything. But it doesn't take a rocket scientist to realize that numbers or size alone won't make a game instant GOTY. See Starfield and NMS for singleplayer examples or any MMO that has content that allows a hundred or even a thousand players to play with each other simultaneously. The gameplay gets gradually shallower and dumber the more players there are. Meaningful quality content that doesn't give you epileptic seizures, destroys your FPS or that turns into a shallow skill rotation spam or griefer fest is generally not doable with this many players. It's a realization said MMO enthusiasts need to learn or they will get disappointed over and over and judge games with unrealistic and unfair expectations.
I'm 8 mins in the video and I am ready to buy the game. It really sounds like the devs cared, and turned it around, to make a fun experience. And I guess the price will go higher when the 1.0 drops, so maybe now is the best time to buy, seeing also that the Steam reviews in the past 30 days are at 89%.
they did right by their purchasers with this game. huge props to them as someone who played the original launch the game is way better this way without a cash shop and the art style is great
Joe Mad's art style is very influential to modern gaming. He is a comic book artist and writer who made a fantasy comic series called Battle Chasers in the 90s that garnered a cult following. His art style would inspire guys at Blizzard that went to define the art direction of Warcraft 3 and WoW in the early 00s, this same stylized comic/animated-like art direction would go on to inspire other games like League of Legends (which Joe Mad has collaborated with) and Wildstar. In a sense it has come full circle. Another game worth mentioning is the Darksiders games which Joe Mad too worked on.
The modding support is gonna be a big boost in maintaining players and interest. Skyrim, for as much shit as we give it, really did set down the foundation to show the power modding can have for a game for the better. Even to this day, it is one of the most popular and relevant RPGs thanks to the modding scene being able to basically completely change the game from its foundation. That isnt to say its the first game to have modding, but its one of the first to just make it, I wouldnt say mainstream, but more well known. I look forward to playing the game for hours of my life to come and to hopefully support the game and devs for years to come.
I purchased the top tier founders pack when it was in early access, and while I respect people who feel slighted at finding out the game had scaled down from a large scale live service MMO to an offline ARPG, the major shifts in design feel really really good. I think the only gripe I have is that the narrative exposition when talking to NPCs is a bit bland just looking from one profile to the next. Your player character doesn't really say anything unique to them, despite all being unique characters. That said, the game feels way better than it did in early access and I'm really happy Airship Syndicate is keeping up with it and continuing to add content, great to see and look forward to seeing what else they add.
I also got that pack. Do you know what we ended up with after all the changes? It's a shame to spend that extra money to have the game change so much that I don't even recognise what I get for my money now. They should really explain a lil better. If you know, please fill me in. Cheers
@@chilrl7425 If you mean "get" as in, like...extra bonuses or loot or benefits for the founders' packs, I don't actually know. You're right, they should make it a little more clear. I don't mean to sow potential seeds of discontent, but I don't believe it was a lot, if anything. I THINK that Airship Syndicate may have made a statement at some point that there was some issue with the Founders' Packs once they made all the changes and/or updated to 1.0, etc., and that some of the benefits would be delayed to some degree. I would look that up better, though, I may be misremembering some of it. That said, as much as I respect peoples' disappointment in the game going from a large scale MMO to a smaller scale ARPG...kinda the risk of buying Founders' Packs, though. Early Access is a risk. A lot of people buy in, hoping or thinking the game will do gangbusters and then it doesn't and some end up feeling cheated or disappointed. It's unfortunate. I still have a lot of confidence AS will keep developing and have a solid fanbase enough to more some fun content and keep making it into an interesting IP. I'm not sure how much time I've put in so far, but it's already feeling better than the 80 or hours I put into First Descendant.
I bought the game mid september with 3 friends and we have about 180hrs, the game is suuuuper fun and there's so much to do, I can't wait for tomorrow's full release.
Hey how does the multiplayer work? Can you do every piece of content including campaign with ur friends or do you only group up for the dungeons and hunts? And is there any form of pvp in the game?
@@satachi8946 You can do absolutely everything co-op after a very very early tutorial-ish spot in the game. There is no PvP. Loot is separate for everyone so there is no arguing with each other.
Picked this game up post remix, and it's been my most fun I've had in a game this year. Love the art style and combat, and the dungeons change just enough and ride the challenge tightrope to not become boring. I hope they somehow find a way to keep adding more. Any DLC would be a purchase day one.
I'm very glad that Airship Syndicate was able to turn around the bad situation that happened with them, Wayfinder is a great game in itself and I'm glad to see how the reactions have become positive towards the developers because they deserve it.
Fully recommend it. It's pretty cheap too so what's not to love? Wishing those devs a lot of success after everything they went through with DE, they're still struggling but they do everything they can to make this an amazing game.
While it's cool that they shipped something, it's not what many players became Founders for. Many of those Founders feel (justifiably) rugpulled. No refunds were ever offered, but i'm glad that they found the money to sponsor content creators, atleast. Also, people placing all the blame on Digital Extremes for the troublesome first launch seems a little unfair in the grand scheme of things.
Oh wow I remember this game. Looks like it's time to redownload! It's cool the devs didnt just shut it down and instead gave it some love and kept it going.
Thanks for your review! I've followed AirShipSyn since BattleChasers because they've some of my favourite artists across the entire industry and I was livid when they announced they were going the route of the live service for Wayfinder. To be frank when I saw LazyPeon just buy a fiery sword in the cash shop and do +250% damage in his playthrough a year ago it broke my heart. I guess this game will be THE perfect illustration of how much the LiveService format can destroy and suck the soul out of a game when you can have it's reflection as a simple, microtransactionless product right in front of it. Really glad that DE's out of the picture and can only pray AirShipSyn for showing such resillience.
Just got back into update 1 and this game absolutely rocks! Huge respect to Airship for making this game happen through all odds, can't wait to see It continue growing to strengths.
so they turned the game from a live action psuedo mmo to a co-op rpg? please become the norm. we need to buy this game guys. even if you dont like it, even if you dont like the genre, we need to normalize this mindset from devs and publishers
Game is looking 10x better than it was a year ago. I hope there is more post launch content for the game than what was mentioned here. A new locale would be awesome, they should, and i would love it if they added a desert / sandy crag like open world area. Even if they released it as "DLC / expansion" id easily pay £15-£25 or so for it depending on scope etc. They have a really good game here that whilst although "offline" has a lot of potential for more scope to it, like Monster hunter expansions etc lol I already brought the highest founders pack edition on PS5 when it released in EA last year, and had brought it on Steam more recently when they released the "new EA" a few months ago to try out the new systems etc and to support them a little more with their efforts. Cant wait to get back home next month and play this properly as I've been away for a few months.
This is the stuff gamers need to be supporting. Effort, passion and care for their product. Changing it up when it wasn't working, massive credit to the the devs.
Everyone play this!!! Let's give the devs the love they deserve they put so much love and passion into this game believe me!!! Let's make this #1 it will be worth it!!
Great video! I just want to add that everything that was a microtransaction is now in the game and lootable! that is over 3000 items, though that number is even higher with 1.0.. Also, to add one more thing is that there is a legendary rarity as well. (I am not sure if someone already commented on this, but I wanted to make sure anyone reading knows this as well.)
Started playing at 1.0 release and its super fun. Combat is great, tons of content for the $25 price tag and zero microtransactions. Gotta support games like this
Everyone's praising the game but last time i checked the player count is still low sad to see i hope they gain success and can continue to update the game in the future
When I played the Beta it felt a little bit like playing DarkSider2, which I loved. With the history and the changes made I'm excited to actually dive in into it. Thanks for the great video!
that's pretty amazing. they even have crossplay between pc and ps5 now. putting this back on my wishlist. i oowned it, but refunded it eventually, because my pc wasn't quite powerful enough to run it. hopefully they did a bit more optimization.
Incredible video as always... it blows my mind how much detailed and accurate information you are able to lay out so succinctly. It's been one of the proudest accomplishment of my career to work on Wayfinder, thank you for putting out an info video to do it justice
Was so invested into this game when it was supposed to become a mmo(lite) now the news it stopped being that and was being changed truelly hit me hard (only as hard as it could because i mean it's a video game.. ) but now after i kept playing it on and off since Echoes launch IT IS AWESOME! The fact they added a SERVER BROWSER, CROSSPLAY, NO MICROTRANSACTION, 2 new Wayfinders, open world zone, quests.. the game is awesome. Props for the devs to keep having faith and continue on this instead of throwing in the towel after the massive blow when they got dropped. Thanks for the video btw :)
15 hours in and can say the game is genuinely fun. It's a 25 dollar game, also, and it's well worth the price point. If you're on the fence but want something hack n slashy with a diablo lite style grind so to speak, then this is for you.
Based devs make great games despite adversity. The best part is that they worked hard to earn back customer respect instead of whining about nobody buying their game like certain studios.
So glad I purchased the game a long time ago to support development. I love the new direction they took. Haven't played it yet cuz waiting for it to at least hit 1.0 or more development. It looks great thou so far
Great game, played EA and now full release, already 40 hours into the game since 1.0 Totalling 140 hours, just entered the second zone Frostmarch, with the Crucible map still undiscovered too. Incredible high quality game with alot of puzzles, something to find in every corner whether its a secret chest, secret pets and more. Love it.
Thanks for covering this game Force, have loved the game all through its ups and downs of early access and like you i'm a little sad the shared world version never came to be. Regardless though the current version of the game is super fun and an awesome title for the price. Really hope more people give it chance with the 1.0 release
Re-launch as a coop game was a great pivot, but they didn't have much choice after losing publisher. I have been holding off playing too much, but 1.0 is close!
I like all of these....except for being offline. I love the idea of it being an mmo, I just don't like the typical monetization. I'd love all of these + mmo features tbh, guilds, people playing together, etc
If mod support comes true and the came gets a big enough player base, hopefully this will result in some new exciting user-created content. I'm glad the devs went this route. Games like this are rare.
I’ve been waiting for you to make this vid because i love this game with a passion. One of my top 10 games for sure and it’s only going to get better 🔥
Bought the game yesterday after it was fully launched and it is so different. I remember playing the beta where I had to sign an NDA and launching the game again only to see it's no longer an MMORPG was a huge shock.
Kudos to the developer for finishing the game. I did wish we could've played like an mmo, but I'd rather have this than something half baked. I'd buy it if I wasn't broke.😂
Just bought this now for cheap $$ on Early Access before the 1.0 release later today. Looks gorgeous and plays super smooth for an UE5 engine game. FPS maxed to 144fps on my 144Hz LG C4 42” OLED and that’s without enabling FSR! So very optimized even before the 1.0 QOL improvements. A big thumbs up from me!👍
Likely gonna buy this especially since it's a low price point for what it offers. Even more especially to support devs that turned it into a more consumer-friendly game. Thanks for the 1.0 overview!
JUST GET IT! This is a perfect example of a game we should support because the devs are doing so many cool things that are beneficial and consumer friendly. Its a solo MMO that runs great on the steam deck!
It's a pleasant surprise that Wayfinder's developer made a choice to pivot and kept to it. I thought that it would be just another game that promised big change to milk player interest, only to either silently fade away or suddenly surprise everyone with a new game they just happened to be developing on the side.
I had heard some buzz about this game, but hearing you talking about it makes me really wanna try it myself! Really hope the game sells decently well, I'd love for the devs to keep adding new features to the game. 😍
This game is sort of shattering. They basically planned to ship it with all the usual player retention/micro transaction bullshit as per usual and then redacted it and give you everything for free for just playing the game. It really makes you think why would you play along with all those other games that revolve around wasting your time.
I've played the new echoes rework (change from multiplayer to single player). it has been a great experience. The grind is fun, the art is gorgeous, the combat is fun. The progress feels good and I've had fun creating my player house. It's a fun little game. I wish their publisher didn't shit on them and drop them. I think it could have been a great multiplayer game. If you want a fun game to play around in, it's worth a look.
I still view the game as being in Early Access... especially since there hasn't been any announcement on the Steam page. I'm really hoping for a release soon, and it would be fantastic if they also consider a GOG release! After the changes (removing the online service model), I’m excited to dive into this game!
I completely forgot about this game, and I bought it on sale a few months ago because I recognized it and saw the complete 180 they had done. And honestly? This game is so fucking fun. I was straight up transfixed by everything. It plays so well and it's so fun. I hope my friends buy it with 1.0 cause I can only imagine how much more fun it'd be with co-op
Been playing this nonstop since 1.0. I was in the original beta back when it was more of an MMO and let me tell you WOOF this game is fucking incredible! Holy shit did they revamp everything! Almost unrecognizable in every single aspect and I mean that in the best way possible.
I have bought the game today and played a couple of hours, looked through the systems and everything. I can tell that this game is either going to be an after the fact sleeper hit like no man's sky or cyberpunk or always be an underappreciated gem. It is so goddamn thought through. Infinitely better as a one time purchase. No fomo choosing a class as you get ALL to play kinda like FFXIV! This game would have been awesome as an MMO, maybe if this is a big hit they can make a sequel MMO. Very fun to play too. My big tip: PLAY WITH CONTROLLER AND/OR ON STEAM DECK. It's amazing.
Wayfinder made me realize just how much more crisp combat is in offline games. I sort of made the decision to skip online only games from now on, not only for their monetization, but also their sluggish combat
I was skeptical but this game is amazing. Darksiders meets Destiny with a modern Warcraft aesthetic. Truly a dream come true .. Hopefully it gets a lot of support long term for more depth/content.
I totally forgot about this game! I had no desire to play this before! Now I will keep an eye out to see if I want to buy this! There are several things that turn me off, but we will see!
Never cared about this game when it was F2P and online, but now it actually sounds interesting. Will absolutely buy it now. No more artificial time gates and pointless grinding? Sign me up.
Their publisher leaving was probably the best thing that happened to them. The game sounds so much better with this new model. The typical f2p model with cash shops are so overdone it's an instant turn off for many people.
For real.
Because people like cash shops, no matter how much they cry and gripe about them, they still spend hundreds of dollars, then come to social media and tell people how much they hate it.
@@puppethound Yeah, that 'people' guy always saying one thing and doing another. Damn hypocrite.
@@CatalepticHunter i mean you hate games you have to pay for w/subscription and you hate games that are free but have a cash shop. What do you want lol
@@BrothaMan831 to just buy the game. one time purchase
Worth noting that every armor and weapon piece you pick up unlocks their style that can be freely swapped and recolored in transmog sort of system
Also, armor is multiplicative with stats from your gear, meaning its value increases the better gear you get
Thank you!! The most important thing!! Fashion!
I actually love the transmog system, and the fact that you can change the colors I literally screamed for joy lol
Too bad they didn't let us make our own character. Killed any interest.
i wil be buying this game just to support the devs. Awesome of them to do this none of the microtransaction slop going on.
they failed hard thats why the change....they suck.
@@ikomanPc Game is great now. You suck.
@@ikomanPcatleast they're admitting their initial failures and are trying to fix it.
@@ikomanPc they changed cause digital extremes abandoned them a month after ea launch by shutting down the publishing sector
@@ikomanPc did you know it's preferable to keep it private if you're stupid? you didn't have to let us know.
As someone who doesn't really do multiplayer/MMOs, this game sounds great now.
It is and its only 25$...it's f'n amazing
it's insane that they rebuilt features and progression and kept in multiplayer. That's not a small task
That's how it was for my buddies and me also. We weren't sure of doing it as an mmo... but after this pivot, it's legitimately better for how we play games. We bought it before 1.0, after the echos rework. We were already happy with the purchase, and now it's even better with 1.0
@@buddybarlow9604 10% off right now. seems like worth a shot not normally my kinda game but looks fun as long as it has enough player base for partying. im cool with playing solo alot but grouping up can add some more life to a game for me
I want give it a try, but holly moly there is literally no good looking characters that makes me want to play, being male of female... why cant game devs allow us to play with hot characters?
Bought the game a week ago on a sale and have been having a blast. Has a huge amount of depth and content. One boss fight really surprised me, complex but not dumb. Worth the $$ for me so far for sure, 100% recommend
What's the coop like pal
@gavhadamz81 I hear good things about it billing pretty chill. Can't comment personally, the boys are playing PoE reset rn
I appreciate this art style, tends to age well. Combat looks decent too.
I cannot stress enough how much this game deserves to succeed. The devs believed in it enough to bring their vision to life, and the passion and love shine through in every aspect. It is a blast to play, there is so much to do, and the story isn't half bad from what I'd played of the first two chapters. Also, for those in the D&D community, also dropping with the 1.0 release is the game's first cosmetic DLC, and it's a Critical Role crossover. I'm not super into Critical Role myself, but I'll definitely be picking it up to show the devs some love!
It most certainly does not deserve it LMAO
@@joshuamitchell3441 Womp womp loser alert. Keep your thoughts in your head you low IQ insect.
@@joshuamitchell3441we get it you like mmo slop
@@Flourikum Lol keep enjoying a dead game that is run by scammers, clown
No character creation killed it.
im glad this game didnt shut down
it probs will. the company reminds me of high rez just following trends
@@E621_Rule34 I'm a little unsure how "providing an offline mode with p2p multiplayer, and reducing scope from a huge scale MMO to a smaller scale ARPG...something that barely anyone else is doing in the market right now...constitutes "following trends." What trend?
The "trend" is to turn every repetitive loot based game into a "huge scale MMO and/or live service." To MOST games' detriment and inevitable shut down. There are countless examples of such trend-chasers that died horrible deaths doing that exact thing. Airship Syndicate said "we can't do the big scale thing, you know, the thing everyone else is doing...so we're scaling down scope," and so far, it's working out well for them. Reviews are looking better, they're adding more content. Growth to better player numbers will be slow, but more and more people are being impressed with the offering, and that's great.
@@RedShadowOfSaturn high-rez is the one doing that. The guys who made realm royale, leathal company, paladins etc. This game is probs gonna die for how niche it is.
@@E621_Rule34 Yes, you already mentioned that ONE studio. Now name me the 10, 20, 30 or even 40 other studios doing that that CREATES a trend. Do I need to define the word "trend" for you?
Also, it's hard for a game that's no longer a live service to "die." It's getting updates but no longer being a fully online MMO style game with a cash shop means they can update at whatever pace they want and players can come and go as they please. It's not about "dying" for them.
@@RedShadowOfSaturn when it comes to MMO this game isnt even that in a sense. "Massive mulitplaer online" isnt even what this game is anymore.its a single player expirience so the MMO aspects are a waste with no online part in sight. Its gonna pull a reumbleverse and die for being niche. You dont understand that without a genere or trend to fall into. No ones gonna play it. May not get shut down but it for sure wont be talked about or grow.
For $25 seems like a ton of content, want to get it eventually as it seems like a game I would really like
honestly at this price Airship is litterally offering a massive game.
Airship syndicate deserves the praise. They make fun games and im glad theybare branching out a bit with this game. Hope its successful enough to fund other project's down the line
Omg Airship Syndicate?? SOLD. I should’ve known Joe Mad was behind this art style.
That moment when losing your publisher is actually a feature
How is it? They just got money from DE to develop and have them under their publishing rights for money if they succeed. Its all Wayfinder devs fault they fucked up so bad with MMO version, its not just some 1 or 2 things, they were going downhill since a year or so before even EA, as people were questioning their decisions and wtf they're thinking doing X or Z, they couldn't even deliver half of the roadmap they promised for half a year and if you said anything about it you would either be muted or banned in their discord lol
@@ChoJun69 agree 100% not it is a playground for casual player.
I am curios when the first DLC will be dropped down how they will react ahah
The publishers also have the ability to affect development, don't you know that, creating deadlines, deciding what makes the cut or not, that's why alot of indie devs usually refuse publishers 😅@@ChoJun69
@@ChoJun69 It's not all AS fault, DE takes most of that blame. Many bugs were due to server / hardware issues and the servers were provided by..... DE ofc! Some decisions made by AS were questionable, but they always listened to the community and acted on it. Saying "Its all Wayfinder devs fault" is very disingenuous. Also about the part show me proof or it didn't happen. I have been in that discord server for ever and never have I seen an unjust ban. The getting "muted or banned" claims were greatly exaggerated by unhappy players to "stir the pot" more.
They broke away from [DE]vil and Tencent. 100% win. DE lost their soul the second they didn't band together and walk out the door after Tencent took over. Now they've forgotten what happened when they were a no-name, bankrupt studio and Sunpo Food Holding saw them through and believed in them. Instead, they trash their "friends" and ditch them the second they're not the next Fortnite.
Super happy that you're covering the game again Force. Definitely an hidden gem and hopefully it will get the success it deserves.
Early access relaunch was great, I sunk 160 hours into it and had a blast, looking forward to all the new stuff
i bought the game two weeks ago and honestly I really really enjoyed I already put 60 hours in on ps5. really fun game .
is there more to do after the 60 hours you played ?
Hey man! How does the game run on PS5? If it's a solid 60 i'm all in.
@@dreamhunter8967 shit 60 hours for a 30-dollar game seems amazing wtf
@@Tihamatt I agree but no everyone has 30 bucks to spend without caring, maybe you
@@coldfries8976 , the game runs great. I've just spent 20 hours in it, and there is still so much more to do.
Wait so the game is now an offline game with no mtx? I will buy this ASAP
Yeah. It feels how a game should, for anyone who played previous version it becomes very obvious how these F2P mechanics cripple games
hell yeah!!! more games having the offline option should be a norm
It's fun. Can recommend it.
@@1IGG I'm going to buy it tonight I think. Pretty stoked
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Tbh, I'll check it out now. Glad it went a one time purchase.
It’s a great game, Chef 🔥
hell yeah chef
Bought this game with the highest founders pack on first day of early access. I can’t explain how happy I am that it’s making healthy changes. From the art to the combat I love this game down to the last pixel
I like the current state of the game as opposed to the original mmo concept honestly. The biggest issue with mmo's is trying to prioritize that playing with others in an open playground setting versus actually making quality content that makes a player want to log into the game. MMO's get repetitive and I think this game can really shake things up by giving the dungeon crawler experience the breath of fresh new air it sorely needs.
It's basically the absolutely opposite to the naive, delusional wet fantasies of some diehard MMO enthusiasts (but also to what people playing other games sometimes succumb to): That more allegedly always means better. More/bigger world, more players, more quests, more NPCs, more skins, more weapons, more achievements, more everything.
But it doesn't take a rocket scientist to realize that numbers or size alone won't make a game instant GOTY. See Starfield and NMS for singleplayer examples or any MMO that has content that allows a hundred or even a thousand players to play with each other simultaneously. The gameplay gets gradually shallower and dumber the more players there are. Meaningful quality content that doesn't give you epileptic seizures, destroys your FPS or that turns into a shallow skill rotation spam or griefer fest is generally not doable with this many players. It's a realization said MMO enthusiasts need to learn or they will get disappointed over and over and judge games with unrealistic and unfair expectations.
This game looks fun. I kind of want it to succeed to show that people don't want freemium games.
It’s already failed… that’s why it’s offline single player now
Its dogwater
Thanks for the info!
@@iCasperJay womp womp (you mean the freemium failed cause it a terrible practice)
@@joshuamitchell3441 Oh?! OK, thanks for the info.
I'm impressed with the road they took. will buy the game as soon as able
I'm 8 mins in the video and I am ready to buy the game. It really sounds like the devs cared, and turned it around, to make a fun experience. And I guess the price will go higher when the 1.0 drops, so maybe now is the best time to buy, seeing also that the Steam reviews in the past 30 days are at 89%.
Game is great.
heck, i'm only 2min. in and I'm thinking about it lol.
The game is staying at $25 and its actually going on sale for 10% off when 1.0 launches tomorrow.
I literally just bought the game 5 min ago lol been looking into this game ever since it just randomly announced a 1.0 release.
I could be wrong, but I thought the game will go to $30 when 1.0 releases. It's currently at 25 or something.
they did right by their purchasers with this game. huge props to them as someone who played the original launch the game is way better this way without a cash shop and the art style is great
Reminds me of Wildstar.
its been 84 years...
It was one of their inspirations
@@LinX-gt9ei 2237 days to be precise! ;)
Joe Mad's art style is very influential to modern gaming. He is a comic book artist and writer who made a fantasy comic series called Battle Chasers in the 90s that garnered a cult following. His art style would inspire guys at Blizzard that went to define the art direction of Warcraft 3 and WoW in the early 00s, this same stylized comic/animated-like art direction would go on to inspire other games like League of Legends (which Joe Mad has collaborated with) and Wildstar. In a sense it has come full circle.
Another game worth mentioning is the Darksiders games which Joe Mad too worked on.
Wildstar was so cool man... sad ending story :/
The modding support is gonna be a big boost in maintaining players and interest. Skyrim, for as much shit as we give it, really did set down the foundation to show the power modding can have for a game for the better. Even to this day, it is one of the most popular and relevant RPGs thanks to the modding scene being able to basically completely change the game from its foundation. That isnt to say its the first game to have modding, but its one of the first to just make it, I wouldnt say mainstream, but more well known. I look forward to playing the game for hours of my life to come and to hopefully support the game and devs for years to come.
I purchased the top tier founders pack when it was in early access, and while I respect people who feel slighted at finding out the game had scaled down from a large scale live service MMO to an offline ARPG, the major shifts in design feel really really good. I think the only gripe I have is that the narrative exposition when talking to NPCs is a bit bland just looking from one profile to the next. Your player character doesn't really say anything unique to them, despite all being unique characters. That said, the game feels way better than it did in early access and I'm really happy Airship Syndicate is keeping up with it and continuing to add content, great to see and look forward to seeing what else they add.
I also got that pack. Do you know what we ended up with after all the changes? It's a shame to spend that extra money to have the game change so much that I don't even recognise what I get for my money now. They should really explain a lil better. If you know, please fill me in. Cheers
@@chilrl7425 If you mean "get" as in, like...extra bonuses or loot or benefits for the founders' packs, I don't actually know. You're right, they should make it a little more clear. I don't mean to sow potential seeds of discontent, but I don't believe it was a lot, if anything. I THINK that Airship Syndicate may have made a statement at some point that there was some issue with the Founders' Packs once they made all the changes and/or updated to 1.0, etc., and that some of the benefits would be delayed to some degree. I would look that up better, though, I may be misremembering some of it.
That said, as much as I respect peoples' disappointment in the game going from a large scale MMO to a smaller scale ARPG...kinda the risk of buying Founders' Packs, though. Early Access is a risk. A lot of people buy in, hoping or thinking the game will do gangbusters and then it doesn't and some end up feeling cheated or disappointed. It's unfortunate. I still have a lot of confidence AS will keep developing and have a solid fanbase enough to more some fun content and keep making it into an interesting IP. I'm not sure how much time I've put in so far, but it's already feeling better than the 80 or hours I put into First Descendant.
Getting dropped by the publisher was an absolute blessing for this game. No mtx, no online only.
I bought the game mid september with 3 friends and we have about 180hrs, the game is suuuuper fun and there's so much to do, I can't wait for tomorrow's full release.
Hey how does the multiplayer work? Can you do every piece of content including campaign with ur friends or do you only group up for the dungeons and hunts? And is there any form of pvp in the game?
@@satachi8946 You can do absolutely everything co-op after a very very early tutorial-ish spot in the game. There is no PvP. Loot is separate for everyone so there is no arguing with each other.
@@b0lt_thr0wer15 thanks!
actually a pretty solid game
I’m so in. When I heard this was in early access the only thing holding me back was Party Finder. Now that it’s there, let’s goooooo
I don’t really like cartoon games but this has me interested. Feels like a smooth warcraft
Picked this game up post remix, and it's been my most fun I've had in a game this year. Love the art style and combat, and the dungeons change just enough and ride the challenge tightrope to not become boring. I hope they somehow find a way to keep adding more. Any DLC would be a purchase day one.
I'm very glad that Airship Syndicate was able to turn around the bad situation that happened with them, Wayfinder is a great game in itself and I'm glad to see how the reactions have become positive towards the developers because they deserve it.
Fully recommend it. It's pretty cheap too so what's not to love? Wishing those devs a lot of success after everything they went through with DE, they're still struggling but they do everything they can to make this an amazing game.
This actually looks fun.
Bought it 4 days ago and have dumped over 25 hours in it... i f'n love it. Best 25$ ive ever spent
While it's cool that they shipped something, it's not what many players became Founders for. Many of those Founders feel (justifiably) rugpulled. No refunds were ever offered, but i'm glad that they found the money to sponsor content creators, atleast.
Also, people placing all the blame on Digital Extremes for the troublesome first launch seems a little unfair in the grand scheme of things.
This actually looks like way better mechanics than before...
Oh wow I remember this game. Looks like it's time to redownload! It's cool the devs didnt just shut it down and instead gave it some love and kept it going.
Thanks for your review!
I've followed AirShipSyn since BattleChasers because they've some of my favourite artists across the entire industry and I was livid when they announced they were going the route of the live service for Wayfinder. To be frank when I saw LazyPeon just buy a fiery sword in the cash shop and do +250% damage in his playthrough a year ago it broke my heart.
I guess this game will be THE perfect illustration of how much the LiveService format can destroy and suck the soul out of a game when you can have it's reflection as a simple, microtransactionless product right in front of it. Really glad that DE's out of the picture and can only pray AirShipSyn for showing such resillience.
Just got back into update 1 and this game absolutely rocks!
Huge respect to Airship for making this game happen through all odds, can't wait to see It continue growing to strengths.
so they turned the game from a live action psuedo mmo to a co-op rpg? please become the norm. we need to buy this game guys. even if you dont like it, even if you dont like the genre, we need to normalize this mindset from devs and publishers
Game is looking 10x better than it was a year ago. I hope there is more post launch content for the game than what was mentioned here. A new locale would be awesome, they should, and i would love it if they added a desert / sandy crag like open world area.
Even if they released it as "DLC / expansion" id easily pay £15-£25 or so for it depending on scope etc. They have a really good game here that whilst although "offline" has a lot of potential for more scope to it, like Monster hunter expansions etc lol
I already brought the highest founders pack edition on PS5 when it released in EA last year, and had brought it on Steam more recently when they released the "new EA" a few months ago to try out the new systems etc and to support them a little more with their efforts. Cant wait to get back home next month and play this properly as I've been away for a few months.
This is the stuff gamers need to be supporting. Effort, passion and care for their product. Changing it up when it wasn't working, massive credit to the the devs.
Everyone play this!!! Let's give the devs the love they deserve they put so much love and passion into this game believe me!!! Let's make this #1 it will be worth it!!
Great video! I just want to add that everything that was a microtransaction is now in the game and lootable! that is over 3000 items, though that number is even higher with 1.0.. Also, to add one more thing is that there is a legendary rarity as well. (I am not sure if someone already commented on this, but I wanted to make sure anyone reading knows this as well.)
Started playing at 1.0 release and its super fun. Combat is great, tons of content for the $25 price tag and zero microtransactions. Gotta support games like this
I've had a ton of fun with the new stuff, and I highly recommend playing this through with a few friends
Everyone's praising the game but last time i checked the player count is still low sad to see i hope they gain success and can continue to update the game in the future
I'm happy you're covering this, one of my new favorite games I've played recently.
When I played the Beta it felt a little bit like playing DarkSider2, which I loved. With the history and the changes made I'm excited to actually dive in into it. Thanks for the great video!
that's pretty amazing. they even have crossplay between pc and ps5 now. putting this back on my wishlist. i oowned it, but refunded it eventually, because my pc wasn't quite powerful enough to run it. hopefully they did a bit more optimization.
Incredible video as always... it blows my mind how much detailed and accurate information you are able to lay out so succinctly. It's been one of the proudest accomplishment of my career to work on Wayfinder, thank you for putting out an info video to do it justice
Was so invested into this game when it was supposed to become a mmo(lite) now the news it stopped being that and was being changed truelly hit me hard (only as hard as it could because i mean it's a video game.. ) but now after i kept playing it on and off since Echoes launch IT IS AWESOME! The fact they added a SERVER BROWSER, CROSSPLAY, NO MICROTRANSACTION, 2 new Wayfinders, open world zone, quests.. the game is awesome. Props for the devs to keep having faith and continue on this instead of throwing in the towel after the massive blow when they got dropped. Thanks for the video btw :)
15 hours in and can say the game is genuinely fun. It's a 25 dollar game, also, and it's well worth the price point. If you're on the fence but want something hack n slashy with a diablo lite style grind so to speak, then this is for you.
I'd love to know how much a sponsorship like this earned the channel
Really nice overview! btw there is also an orange or legendary rarity above purple for armour sets which wasn't mentioned in the vid
Based devs make great games despite adversity. The best part is that they worked hard to earn back customer respect instead of whining about nobody buying their game like certain studios.
Airship Syndicate is a good dev. Their past games proved they know what they're doing.
im really excited about Wayfinder now that its no longer a live service cancer. Switching to offline / single player, is great.
So many of this changes made this game so much better hope people really pick this up and the team can continue to work in their future projects.
So glad I purchased the game a long time ago to support development. I love the new direction they took. Haven't played it yet cuz waiting for it to at least hit 1.0 or more development. It looks great thou so far
Great game, played EA and now full release, already 40 hours into the game since 1.0 Totalling 140 hours, just entered the second zone Frostmarch, with the Crucible map still undiscovered too. Incredible high quality game with alot of puzzles, something to find in every corner whether its a secret chest, secret pets and more. Love it.
Thanks for covering this game Force, have loved the game all through its ups and downs of early access and like you i'm a little sad the shared world version never came to be. Regardless though the current version of the game is super fun and an awesome title for the price. Really hope more people give it chance with the 1.0 release
This sounds awesome! when you originally covered it, i was somewhat on the fence leaning towards skipping but now it sounds really solid!
Re-launch as a coop game was a great pivot, but they didn't have much choice after losing publisher. I have been holding off playing too much, but 1.0 is close!
I like all of these....except for being offline. I love the idea of it being an mmo, I just don't like the typical monetization. I'd love all of these + mmo features tbh, guilds, people playing together, etc
DE really did the devs dirty, there is no sugarcoating it.
Glad they managed to turn it around
If that's the case. Why are founders items gone then. ☕️🗿
If mod support comes true and the came gets a big enough player base, hopefully this will result in some new exciting user-created content. I'm glad the devs went this route. Games like this are rare.
Torchlight with a third person action dungeon mutator twist, not bad :P
I’ve been waiting for you to make this vid because i love this game with a passion. One of my top 10 games for sure and it’s only going to get better 🔥
3:25 is 100 % wotlk vengful pally pvp gear and i love it
Bought the game yesterday after it was fully launched and it is so different. I remember playing the beta where I had to sign an NDA and launching the game again only to see it's no longer an MMORPG was a huge shock.
I wasn't very intersted when it was an MMO like but now I'm loving it, alrdy 50 hours in before 1.0
Theres no extra rewards for playing on the harder difficulties, which is insane for a grinder ARPG, I'm gonna have to wait till they fix that.
Kudos to the developer for finishing the game. I did wish we could've played like an mmo, but I'd rather have this than something half baked. I'd buy it if I wasn't broke.😂
I might not play it but ill still buy it to support their business practice. 1 time purchase is much better than F2P/P2W
Just bought this now for cheap $$ on Early Access before the 1.0 release later today. Looks gorgeous and plays super smooth for an UE5 engine game. FPS maxed to 144fps on my 144Hz LG C4 42” OLED and that’s without enabling FSR! So very optimized even before the 1.0 QOL improvements. A big thumbs up from me!👍
Likely gonna buy this especially since it's a low price point for what it offers. Even more especially to support devs that turned it into a more consumer-friendly game. Thanks for the 1.0 overview!
JUST GET IT! This is a perfect example of a game we should support because the devs are doing so many cool things that are beneficial and consumer friendly. Its a solo MMO that runs great on the steam deck!
It's a pleasant surprise that Wayfinder's developer made a choice to pivot and kept to it. I thought that it would be just another game that promised big change to milk player interest, only to either silently fade away or suddenly surprise everyone with a new game they just happened to be developing on the side.
This game is amazing. I bought it a month or so ago and been loving it! So glad you re-reviewed it!
I had heard some buzz about this game, but hearing you talking about it makes me really wanna try it myself!
Really hope the game sells decently well, I'd love for the devs to keep adding new features to the game. 😍
This game is sort of shattering. They basically planned to ship it with all the usual player retention/micro transaction bullshit as per usual and then redacted it and give you everything for free for just playing the game. It really makes you think why would you play along with all those other games that revolve around wasting your time.
I've played the new echoes rework (change from multiplayer to single player). it has been a great experience. The grind is fun, the art is gorgeous, the combat is fun. The progress feels good and I've had fun creating my player house. It's a fun little game. I wish their publisher didn't shit on them and drop them. I think it could have been a great multiplayer game. If you want a fun game to play around in, it's worth a look.
I still view the game as being in Early Access... especially since there hasn't been any announcement on the Steam page.
I'm really hoping for a release soon, and it would be fantastic if they also consider a GOG release!
After the changes (removing the online service model), I’m excited to dive into this game!
I completely forgot about this game, and I bought it on sale a few months ago because I recognized it and saw the complete 180 they had done. And honestly? This game is so fucking fun. I was straight up transfixed by everything. It plays so well and it's so fun. I hope my friends buy it with 1.0 cause I can only imagine how much more fun it'd be with co-op
Been playing this nonstop since 1.0. I was in the original beta back when it was more of an MMO and let me tell you WOOF this game is fucking incredible! Holy shit did they revamp everything! Almost unrecognizable in every single aspect and I mean that in the best way possible.
I have bought the game today and played a couple of hours, looked through the systems and everything. I can tell that this game is either going to be an after the fact sleeper hit like no man's sky or cyberpunk or always be an underappreciated gem. It is so goddamn thought through. Infinitely better as a one time purchase. No fomo choosing a class as you get ALL to play kinda like FFXIV! This game would have been awesome as an MMO, maybe if this is a big hit they can make a sequel MMO. Very fun to play too. My big tip: PLAY WITH CONTROLLER AND/OR ON STEAM DECK. It's amazing.
You're getting a LOT of game for $23/25,
I'm having a blast and highly recommend!
This looks so much better than before! I'm going to wishlist this and play it when I have some time!
Wayfinder made me realize just how much more crisp combat is in offline games. I sort of made the decision to skip online only games from now on, not only for their monetization, but also their sluggish combat
4:42 "With the 1.0 update they're adding the Crucible"
I have PTSD from No Rest for the Wicked now.
And Crossplay is back! Buying this on PC and PS5 to play with my wife!!!
I bought it back when they announced the shift. Played it for about 20 hours this weekend. Definitely worth the price tag!
I think i remember summit 1g playing this a while back and it looked cool. Now it sounds even better
I was skeptical but this game is amazing. Darksiders meets Destiny with a modern Warcraft aesthetic. Truly a dream come true .. Hopefully it gets a lot of support long term for more depth/content.
It is insanely good all the changes that are made to the game and the future one look even better. Thanks for the vid, loved it.
I totally forgot about this game! I had no desire to play this before! Now I will keep an eye out to see if I want to buy this! There are several things that turn me off, but we will see!
Never cared about this game when it was F2P and online, but now it actually sounds interesting. Will absolutely buy it now. No more artificial time gates and pointless grinding? Sign me up.
The game sounds objectively better in every sense. This is awesome! They didn't give up on the game and I think that should be commended.
I actually really enjoyed the grind for weapons and new heroes. Just the type of gameplay I enjoy.