Sweetwater Says They Will Not Add Any More New Brands
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- Опубліковано 15 бер 2024
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I love how Sweetater posts detial pictures of the actual guitars online! Very happy with how they run their business...satisfied customer!!!
I think they have one of the best E-commerce sites in the business.
Ola Englund is doing just great with Solar Guitars and doesn't have a major distributor in the US.
My problem with online and direct ordering is that I need to put my hands on the guitar and amp and play it awhile or a few times before I decide I want to buy it. No two guitars come off the line the same and they each play and sound different from each other. Regardless of being the same model etc. I just miss going to my local shops and talking with staff and local musicians about the gear I might purchase. That's what made it fun about playing. Oh well, get off my lawn damnit!
Ive said this before, but I believe this is the blessing and the curse with PRS guitars. The same model of a guitar tends to sound the same, and feel the same. So, if you like the DGT in the store and order it online, it will feel the same as the one in the store.
This is also why people think PRS guitars have no soul, or feel and sound clinical. When you buy a Gibson or Fender, the feel and playability can varying guitar to guitar in the same model. This is why many people go searching for their perfect Gibson. And when they find it, they swear it's the greatest guitar ever made. And that same person would have gone through several just to find it, because they vary with quality. Gibson's inconsistency will either give you a great instrument or one not so great. But, if you find the one, nothing feels better.
If you don't like one PRS DGT, you cannot go hunting for one that you do. That is the way they feel. This is why some people cannot connect with PRS, because their consistency doesn't allow for much variation. It is a blessing and a curse for them.
So, if you have ever played a model you like in the store, you can be sure that you'll get that same experience ordering that same guitar online.
As far as any other guitar, I agree, you have to feel it, even if you've played the model before.
PRS has so many different models, with different neck shapes, number of frets, body styles, semi-hollow, hollowbody, single cut, double cut, humbuckers, single coils, coil splits, coil taps, piezo, colors, finishes, wood choices, weights, price points etc. The quality is consistently excellent. They don’t all sound the same model to model either. If you can’t bond with DGT then try something else and don’t be so narrow minded.
I have sold a $3500 guitar and took a bit hit used so for expensive guitars I want to touch it first.
@@johnf883 who is that directed toward?
Todd Kearns is on your lawn ?
Probably cause they can’t sell all the millions of different colored strats and les Paul’s Fender and Gibson keep churning out
I believe Sweetwater added Reverend brand guitars about two years ago. I had only been buying Gibson and Fender American-made electric guitars for years. I decided to take a chance, and I bought a Reverend Reeves Gabrels Dirtbike Royale from Sweetwater. It's a Strat-style guitar, but it's got two hum-free P-90s, so it's definitely not a normal Strat. I'm really glad I took the chance, because I really love the guitar. 🙂
Way to go being brave buddy.
A manufacturer who can’t handle a large purchase order shouldn’t want to be in a large-scale retailer like Sweetwater, anyway. There’s nothing wrong with being a small maker, and growth comes in increments. If your product is good and you have a growing customer base and good word of mouth, you’ll be able to scale up over time, if that’s your ambition.
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Phil has a brain for business, it's amazing how much about other peoples businesses he knows and understands… he gets it.
I wonder what he will be doing in 3 to 6 years because bright people like this can move around in an industry... on the other hand, the guy seems to be happy as sh-t surrounded by guitars as a byproduct of what he's already doing. Why be in a rush to change?
Today, for a new builder or brand, you have to prove your sustainability and your quality control before retail shops will take your product. Nobody wants to take a chance on new brands. If I look at all the music stores in my area, they all carry the big brands except for a few boutiques that carry major but less popular brands. In Canada, you also have distributors to deal with, so if you get a deal with a distributor, you're more likely to see you gear in a store. The good news is that it's easier than ever to sell directly to customers directly.
Stores like proven brands, and honestly very few brands have done anything that Gibson or Fender and all their satellite brands haven't done endlessly for over half a century. The brands that DO offer different tech / materials / design often get written off as gimmick brands or people aren't really into them in a mainstream sense - Parker comes to mind immediately
How can Adorama have big price cuts? What’s your opinion of them?
Sweetwater is the Amazon of the gear biz. They've been the best for a long time, the first with a killer catalog. 🤘
Guitars have reached their saturation point. Some brands will die off.
Love your channel, content, and wisdom. Just wanted to say that, and have a great day!
+1 don't rely on "getting into a big retailer". When you get your New Brand growing then Sweetwater Etc retailers will be begging you.
Well, if Sweetwater is anything like Home Depot, there is or will be a brand purge.
Watching Paul talk, it's easy to see his passion. The santana story is my favorite
Things will pick back up^!
I would love to build a website to expose luthiers and small companies, just don't have the money or contacts. But one place where I can browse, get news, see everything that was at that guitar festival....
Like how Royal ebony is an upcharge but royal ebony is simply undesirable ebony
You can build a basic storefront and reach out to builders to create pages for their own stuff.
I agree then and now you need to build connections and very few have the carisma and ability and chance to walk into a store and get it on their shelves I have the first and last bit... But my product isn't ready for that... excuse me I'm not ready for that the product is doing fine and can handle it as it has been... So yeah if you want it big you need to work extra hard then what you need to be successful these days.
I like Sweetwater but seldom buy from them because of the lack of financing (AMS and Zzounds). I only buy from Sweetwater if AMS doesn't carry said brand/item.
Not knocking them. They are always gracious. They just never see big purchases from me, just the little stuff.
Lollar and Fralin pickups - classic example
They added Meris not too long ago, really glad they did.
The last 3 items I went to Sweetwater for they were out of. Amazon had them all.
Not a situation with which I am unfamiliar. I find them great for finding out what's out there to buy *_from someone who actually has it._*
If that's a Jp13 behind you, I want to buy it. LOL
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I'd like to see Two Rock @ Sweetwater personally, mainly because I make most of my purchases through them and I try to keep all of my gear on one account so things don't get 'too' out of control LOL!
I prefer to go through Sweetwater due to excellent customer service and mainly the interest free payment plans with a normal debit card. That alone is why a buy through them. I can’t afford some things in a lump sum but the 3 payments makes it possible
too bad they won't add Mitchell Guitars
Phil - 11:27 What is the benefit to even getting sweetwater to carry your product if its $29.99 and they aren’t really going to market anything? For expensive items or high volume items i can see it helping a small company. For a small company with direct sales and not large volume i think you’re just sharing margin esp. Say you’re in the hundreds of orders a month territory. What do you think? I’m not even sure how sweetwater would help a small company, if nobody is going to find out about you there.
I don't think it's Sweetwater's business model to "help" a small brand. As described, they would rather wait until there is customer demand to fill. It would be a risk to take on inventory and then try to educate the market on the product, do sales and promotions, etc. BUT there are mom & pop shops, and specialty retailers who might take a chance on you, who are selling and recommending things to their customers.
But one thing you didn't have 40 years ago was the ease of going D2C and low-to-no-cost broad marketing. That will fill the gap as large retailers are always more selective.
@@renzosound yes, I agree. I am in that boat myself I was posting that question a bit rhetorically - suggesting that they probably didn’t have any benefit for any retailer like that. But kind of like Phil was saying the incredible thing is with social media and direct selling like you actually can launch a brand without a company like Sweetwater I’m trying to do it!
Reverb found a niche, and their bottom line shows that for sure.
So if I keep searching for Two Rock amps Sweetwater might carry them? Lol it's fine since they carry Magnatone
Two words: Fractal Audio. They don't sell through anyone but themselves. They don't need Sweetwater.
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It's a buyers Markets Make an offer they will Move on a fair offer
i really like your site but i never make it to the end. the subject matter is fine but why take 12 minutes that can be said in 5 minutes.
Because this is just a snippet from a larger video podcast. It wasn't made to be concise as it was a reply to a Q&A. It flows like a conversation.
Phil should make KYG coloring books to send out to everyone who would rather be doing something else than listening to him talk
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Perhaps the words you’re looking for are human nature.
Sweetwater was MUCH better before they sold out to venture capitalists couple years ago. It didn't take them 10 minutes to cancel the 400 page catalogs we got twice a year and now the bag o' candy is history. Quite frankly AMS is better now because they will float you credit - 6 or 12 pay no credit check whereas Sweetwater offers nothing but their own card which you must qualify for, also AMS gives you $20 off all the time when SW NEVER gives you a discount or cash. AMS gets stuff that SW doesn't like LE Epiphones and certain Epis like the kill switch Sg Special for $179 Jeez I sound like an AMS honk. Never mind ANYTHING I said, I lied, I made everything up (not) I'm not on the payroll! Just passing info for broke ass musicians that might appreciate it. Your welcome 😎
Bought a fender ventera 60s stratocaster off of Amazon new for $620.00 Sweetwater wanted 880.00 and would not come off the price. 260.00 difference. No brainer
I bought new drum heads a couple of weeks ago and there was a bag of candy and a sticker inside.
@@CharlesWillisBonsai I'll bet you there wasn't an Atomic Fireball!! Last one I got didn't have one, I knew it was the end. Deal is I got some strings and there was no candy - they used to put candy in all bags but maybe now only if you spend a certain $$. I miss the 500 page catalog more - shop there and then pull the trigger at AMS where they give you payments w/o credit check plus $20 off all the time, SW never gives away money.. ☮
@cuda426hemi I usually use Zzounds, but the selection was better at Sweetwater. I got two root beer barrels, a yellow Laffy taffy, and an orange colored mint. No Atomic Fireballs unfortunately.
@@CharlesWillisBonsai See? I lived for the damn fireballs !!! And I still have an old bag where there are at least 7 pieces of candy in it not 3!! ZZounds-AMS same company. Sweetwater may have a little more stock but AMS gets LE's made just for them like the Epi Korina/Gold Explorer for $650 that I just flipped for a profit because of Epis stupidity putting out the non LE Korina/Gold for $1300 w/Gibson pups but otherwise same guitar! LOL plus again- payments w/no credit check. But certain things I will go to SW for, others AMS still others Musician's Friend sometimes sends me sick deals no one has but I'm not a big GC/MF guy. 👀
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Could you please not say "for christ sakes". I enjoy watching your videos but theres no reason to bring christ into your dialogue about guitar companies.
Now that thats out of the way, the best 2 amazing products I've found in the last few years is Vega-Trem and Wilkinson locking saddles. Too bad they aren't on Sweetwater. ❤
You'll live
good, i hope the rest of them follow... enough brands already, make something else
How is anything else going to be made without any more brands? Good to see the short bus gets represented here too...
That… doesn’t make sense.
Perhaps what they mean is that no one ever needs another Klon clone pedal, there need not be 15 companies selling clip on tuners, about two companies total need to be making cables, we don't need any more endless Strat or Les Paul copies. We don't need more brands, we need brands to do something other than plagiarize other brands' products endlessly and saturate the market with clones of a clone of a clone of a clone. Just guessing, though
Looking at three different catalogs right now and counted 39 tuner pedals and clip-ons between the three. They cut down trees to print this absurdity
in what universe is there a need for that selection of guitar tuning devices? They literally all do the exact same thing and half of them use the exact same parts. You're paying for a name and a container anyway. A brand.
🥱 I know there was a point, but I'd long since lost track of what we even started with by 4:40. Yeah, whatever...I guess? 🤷♂
Moth must have found its lightbulb