For those that don't know, Michael Rossenbaum and Tom Welling host a Smallville rewatch podcast called Talkville. They're currently part of the way through season 3, they've had *almost* everyone from the main cast on as guests, and regularly have Alfred Gough and Miles Millar on as well.
To be fair, he had the most time to develop his character. It isn't really a fair comparison. Otherwise I would say that the lex from the dcau is the best
While I missed Lex, him leaving was honestly for the best. The character had been taken as far as he could and with him gone, new dynamics were forged breathing life back into the show.
Smallville did what Flash couldn't, a good superhero soap drama. Given both had their problems but maybe just me but Smallville had charm to it which Flash slowly began losing.
Smallville had problems, but it did a lot of things right, and the characters actually felt like they grew the way they should have. And while the ending had problems, it still felt fitting, unlike any of the Arrowverse shows, where the characters, after the first couple of Seasons, either regress or remain stagnant.
@@shinkaiatsuya950 facts. to me the first season was great just the rushing to time travel was so off for me. it should’ve just ended that Wells didn’t reveal himself but we still get the other Thawn. and have at least season 2 be flashpoint, or flashpoint should’ve been season 3 or 4 at least after or more deep in the crossover events so everyone could’ve been utilized
The more i rewatch Smallville, the more i understand why Clark was never honest with Lex. I still want to believe he could have changed and Clark could have been honest. But the part of Lex that is cunning and manipulative but most importantly egotistical and self righteous, would never allow him to do what is right in the end. This series will always bring me joy though. Its so much better than anything we get now a days.
I appreciate that he puts so much thought into the best properties DC has put out. I could watch his Smallville and DCAU stuff over and over again, because I watch those shows over and over again.
“THIS IS *SMALLVILLE!* ” I think that’s one of Micheal’s best lines of the show, possibly one of the greatest in the show itself. The way he delivers it too like that’s a taste of the Lex Luthor that Superman will face off against in the near future. Even the line about Clark’s dad was so dark, you could see Lex tear up about it, like he envied Jonathan Kent’s love for Clark, he looked up to him more than his his own father. He tried so desperately to make The Kent’s see he wasn’t his dad and he was genuinely just a good man seeking the truth. It hurt him so much that Clark lied to him for years and kept lying even though he knew Lex was too smart not to know. It’s hard to keep secrets but it hurts even more when it’s your friends who are the ones lying straight to your face In my honest opinion Micheal Rosenbaum is the best live action portrayal of Lex Luthor so far. He’s unmatched, he gave such an incredible performance and a different twist/origin for one of the greatest supervillains of all time
To be fair, Lex kept his secrets and lied to Clark too. That's what annoyed me about Lex's self righteous tirade about Clark having secrets. Let literally endangered Clark's family by sending super powered criminals to his home just to catch a Clark using his abilities. I understand that the hypocrisy is easily a charcter trait of his, but it was annoying that it was never thrown back into his face.
@@gunguntrio1247 It's what made their dynamic so enticing. They both try to make themselves look virtuous while they are both massive hypocrites about keeping secrets. As much as they wanted to be friends they were always held back by their own hypocrisy and untrust.
Lex kept many secrets too. I'm pretty sure, since they were so close, that Clark saw some darkness in Lex or something that was off about him. They both lied to each other and to everyone else, while demanding honesty from everyone else.
Micheal Rosenbaum leaving Smallville was like when Don Knotts left The Andy Griffith Show: it just wasn’t the same. Sometimes, creators can forget that a co-star can be just as important as the lead, especially if they play off each other. In Smallville’s case, giving Lex a larger role in the finale could have made up for it, but they screwed that up as well.
I disagree. Don leaving made the show go downhill, while smallville wasn’t the same- I wouldn’t say it went downhill. Season 8-10 are great (minus doomsday character)
Yeah I totally agree with you it just like what happened with that 70 show when Topher Grace and Ashton Kutcher both left the show the quantity dropped and it was never the same again the only thing that kept the show together what's the actor that played red forman and fez
When Cutty left House in later seasons it felt really weird that they didn't bring her up. Especially when House had his recollection of people dear to him and she wasn't there
Lex leaving was honestly for the best. They had taken the character as far as they could. Once he was gone, the show was able to breathe more as they weren’t constantly trying to figure out ways to keep him in the dark allowing Clark room to finally start growing.
The beginnings of Clois this season were honestly some of my favorite bits. The show did a great job building up to their relationship by showing them grow closer during their times of grief. Lex’s downfall this season was also good, but the final scene in the fortress was what I had really been waiting for. Finally seeing Lex’s hero syndrome come to a head as Clark tells him he can choose to be good felt ripped from the comics. That scene was the epitome of the Superman/Lex Luthor rivalry
To me, it starts to elevate at this point. The show still never changed from what it did best, but now it stops doing that holding back on doing full comic books stuff & season 8 went eyebrows deep ... or drow bone deep, for the sake of a kinda doomsday pun.😂
@@gamecitysavior2910 people either love or hate the last 3 seasons, I’m in the love side, season 8 had the lowest lows imo, but the first 10 episodes are really compelling
@@logan2bIn my opinion season 9 was the best out of the last 3 seasons. They screwed up the end episodes in 8 and 10 but those seasons still had great story arcs
As sad as it was to see Michael Rosenbaum leave, I think the show got better overall in seasons 8-10 despite his absence. The show had been slowly slipping year after year, and season 7 was among the worst of the whole run. I kind of forgot about the writer's strike that year, that definitely would've added to the problem. With Kreuk and Rosenbaum not coming back, and the showrunner change-up, the show felt revitalized. It was very different, but not in a bad way.
I appreciated 1-7 as the prequel it was, then 8-10 were more of a bridge, a spin off but not, like a lot of people, I definitely look at that era as Metropolis. I know people say a sequel series called Metropolis would’ve been good, but I think 8-10 were basically that anyway.
I agree. It was refreshing. I was tired of the Clark-Lana-Lex plots. Don't get me wrong. I loved Lex but it felt good to see the show try other things.
I did love the first half of Season 8 for sure, up until 'Legion'. Didn't like the 2nd half though. But I'm a huge fan of Seasons 9 and 10, they are actually amongst my favorite Seasons of the show, more than most of the Lex-Seasons, and Lex was my 2nd favorite character in the show. Overall, like you said, the show was different, but not in a bad way. It worked with Lex, and it worked without Lex. Plus Callum Blue's Zod, while not as good as Lex, was still good enough to fill a good part of the void that Lex's departure left.
Idk if "normal" really describes season 7 lol but it was definitely the end of an era. And it didn't come soon enough, because as much as Lex and Lana were pivotal to the success of the series, both had long outgrown their place in the show and them being there did drag the show down, at least in the way they were being portrayed at the time
The Lionel Luthor “you’ll find you’re stronger than you think you are” line hits different after reading All-Star Superman, which is strange because All-Star Superman was released after that episode.
Lana, Lionel and Lex leaving within 1 season was a big problem for the series. They should have spaced it out better if possible. Those 3 L's were the pinnacle of what drove the stories in Smallville and having all of them gone left a huge hole in keeping the series going.
Just recently rewatched and watched later seasons for first time last two weeks and I love it. The later seasons 8-10 I loved, maybe mostly because of Lois. Seven was mixed but still really enjoyed it all.
You know, now that Implicitly Pretentious mentioned the 2007-2008 Writer’s Strike, Lex’s arc here reminds me of another show made during that time. A show that, well, explored how a (smart) bald man changes from good to evil in a realistic, gradual way. It also features an underdeveloped, bitchy female lead who is trapped in their games of secrets and lies. Obviously one show is way better than the other at doing this, but it’s great that an ultimately more episodic show like Smallville was able to develop Lex in this manner before it became all the rage to do so. All in a heightened comic book adaptation no less. This video does a good job highlighting that. Also, very glad to see the Smallville video series continue and Implicitly Pretentious doesn’t disappoint!
Whew! Thanks for the save. I’ll just say this though. If Lex was still (regularly) around in Smallville after Season 7 there would’ve been comments like this. “This is the moment where Lex Luthor became -Heisenberg- evil.”
According to Jung, the Trickster traditionally shows “his fondness for sly jokes and malicious pranks, his powers as a shape-shifter, his dual nature, half animal, half divine, his exposure to all kinds of tortures, and-last but not least-his approximation to the figure of a savior.”
But I do love Oliver Queen in this show, he was great, I am so thankful that Lana left the show (she was very annoying) and Lois had way more chemistry with clark and was a more enjoyable character
I agree that Lex was very important to the show, but I don't agree that the show fell apart after he left. I felt like the quality of the show had been slipping a bit, year after year, and season 7 was one of the worst of the whole run. To me, season 8 felt like a breath of fresh air, the show had been revitalized. It moved mostly out of Smallville, started focusing more on Clark and Lois, and brought in Tess. Tess might not have been as good as Lex, but she was still really good, and she brought a change from the Clark/Lex dynamic the show had been running with for a few years. To be clear, I do not think that Michael Rosenbaum leaving was what caused the improvement, it was probably mostly due to the new showrunners and other behind the scenes changes.
I agree with you ever since Michael left the show after season 7 the show was never the same because Tom Did a good job carrying the show but he was missing something and it was Michael season 9 was the better season after he left the show
My favorite seasons were 1 to 4. Even if Clark and Lex were meant to become enemies, I always loved the friendship they shared as they would hang out together at the Luthor mansion or the Kent barn. Furthermore, having Clark confide in him was kind of nice too even if he didn’t fully trust him, he was a good influence on Lex. The way they became enemies felt kind of rushed in my opinion. I wish it happened later.
I remember watching the final episode of Season 7 and going wild with excitement about what was going to happen next with how it just ended on probably the biggest cliffhanger of the whole show. Then, I found out that Michael Rosenbaum wasn't returning as Lex and right away any excitement was just gone. It made me realize how much Rosenbaum brought to the show and to the character of Lex. Without him, the show just lost what made it special.
i didn't have custody of my children during these episodes and we still watched these episodes independently it was something we bonded over. i miss my kids who never call or text no matter how much i try to connect with them.
When I was younger I didn’t like the idea of lex and Lana and John glover leaving, but as an adult I actually appreciate the last 3 seasons, especially since it’s my favorite show. And Lois is the big reason the last 3 seasons work.
What i loved about this series is this series made Lex Luthor the unsung hero of this series. Then supergirl and brainiac fly into space then we never ss them again.
I find it interesting that this is the only little Thor that was not a scientist who is purely a businessman. Most have been scientists in business tycoons.
Lana was my least favorite character. they went with the whole "You lied to me! I can't be with you now! And I don't care why!" such a tired, greasy trope
The last “normal” season of smallville was probably more like season 4, or maybe 5. Once Clark left high school the show became darker and more dramatic and felt completely different. I’m not saying bad, just different. I happen to prefer the lighter side of smallville in those early seasons but there were still some great scenes particularly with lex and Lionel in six and seven. I don’t think the writing, or the general character development was as good in six and seven and some of the things the characters talk about in the early seasons (warrior angel and devilicus for example) makes them seem like they won’t just suddenly turn into the generic superman and lex Luthor we know; they have a grounded level of self awareness that makes it seem like it wouldn’t happen on the show. Lex becomes generically evil, rather than there being more nuance to the change. You could say the show grew up in season 5-7 which is right in terms of tone and character development but really the scripting was more solid in earlier seasons. Even some of the really out there episodes were enjoyable. Just my two cents. Thanks for the vid.
God I loved Smallville. Did you ever consider making a She-ra and the Princesses of power video? They tackle trauma really beautifully. I think you would really like it if you didn't see it. Really good animated show. Combines that childish fun and tackling tremendously deep stuff at the same time. The best kind of animated show
And it’s really telling that you didn’t mention Dudesday, @@MrDp115. As if Doomsday wasn’t already a discount Hulk, Smallville finds a way. Sam Witwer either has the worst luck when it comes to gigs or he really needs to find a new agent. Glad he managed to make a stable living being in -insert “niche” franchise here- you know what though.
@@jasonnguyen2575 Sam did his best with Davis Bloom/Doomsday but the script went back & forth on who was the monster and not in a compelling way and that wasn't only issue i had with that season.
As much as I love Smallville, it’s one of the shows that we’re on the air for too long. I didn’t care for the superheroes and Mettopolis. They should’ve ended SV and instead reboot it as „Metropolis“ with the casts and new ideas
Season 7 was such an awful season. Clark was for majority of it a side character is hiw own show and got even dumber. They focused too much on Chloe and Jimmy because it was easier to come up with soap opera crap than do a good story about the guy who will become the best superhero there is. They made a cool version of Bizarro only to waste him. They ruined Zor-El by turning him into a petty man dominated by jealousy. Lana should have been written out of the show after season 3. The only saving grace was Lex and his arc to become Clark's greatest enemy. And yet they found a way to waste it by killing him prematurely then make him return as a clone without memory. Smallville is like that ex girlfriend that you had tons of good memories, but also tons of bad ones that outweighs the good ones.
The good definitely out ways the bad season 7 wasn't even that bad it was just meh everything else in the show other than the lana stuff mostly is goated tv and entertaining and fun to watch my favorite show ever
@@lifeisberserk9566 Smallville had great stuffs but they had also tons of bad stuffs. Mainly how Clark is portrayed in the show for the most part. And season 7 was insanely bad. It's just not the worst because season 10 wins in that regard
@@lifeisberserk9566 no. Clark in the show started as a great character, but over the time became an incompetent annoying immature prick. Of course, this is on the writers, but still, they failed the character. It was stupid how whenever Clark had a big character development, he would go back to square 1
I think most good shows got about 6 seasons. Then hit and misses or just misses after that. A lot of CW content did pretty good for a long time. Breaking Bad ended at a perfect time but I wish someone would have ended The Walking Dead at an appropriate time.
The constant back and forth appearance of the characters who were there before but then left for 1 season and then again appears while the writers took out or sidelined major characters was when it went downhill. God i was so mad when they just casually finished lex character but were still not over with lana like what was the point? And why lois literally takes break for episodes and then she comes back solving cases, feeling jealous or relatable for without a reason. She was so irritating and an annoying one. I just couldn't stand her
Calling this the last normal season is spot on. John Glover is always great as a well-dressed corporate douchebag, Michael Rosenbaum was the best part of the show, and frankly, i thought everything about the Doomsday arc was stupid.
For those that don't know, Michael Rossenbaum and Tom Welling host a Smallville rewatch podcast called Talkville. They're currently part of the way through season 3, they've had *almost* everyone from the main cast on as guests, and regularly have Alfred Gough and Miles Millar on as well.
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I did not know this. Thank you.
Damn...who's that?
Michael Rosenbaum has been the best live action Lex Luthor. Period.
Anyone who claims otherwise is either 1, lying 2, an idiot or 3, both
Same for Tom Welling
To be fair, he had the most time to develop his character. It isn't really a fair comparison. Otherwise I would say that the lex from the dcau is the best
@@kurokitsune17live action
@@PencilFan-hj3lo no other lex as even half of the amount of screen time live action.
While I missed Lex, him leaving was honestly for the best. The character had been taken as far as he could and with him gone, new dynamics were forged breathing life back into the show.
It came out of Left field to me.
Ending after season seven would have been for the best
I agree, but imaging his character in place of Tess. Would have been amazing
Smallville did what Flash couldn't, a good superhero soap drama. Given both had their problems but maybe just me but Smallville had charm to it which Flash slowly began losing.
Smallville had problems, but it did a lot of things right, and the characters actually felt like they grew the way they should have. And while the ending had problems, it still felt fitting, unlike any of the Arrowverse shows, where the characters, after the first couple of Seasons, either regress or remain stagnant.
flash was garbage. Smallville is distilled awesomeness.
to me what made me realize Flash was gonna go down hill was doing Flashpoint and revealing Thawn to early.
@@iammaximumstupied Flashpoint being 2 episodes rather than maybe 4-6 episodes was crazy
@@shinkaiatsuya950 facts. to me the first season was great just the rushing to time travel was so off for me. it should’ve just ended that Wells didn’t reveal himself but we still get the other Thawn. and have at least season 2 be flashpoint, or flashpoint should’ve been season 3 or 4 at least after or more deep in the crossover events so everyone could’ve been utilized
He left to become the Flash then he became president
😂
The more i rewatch Smallville, the more i understand why Clark was never honest with Lex. I still want to believe he could have changed and Clark could have been honest. But the part of Lex that is cunning and manipulative but most importantly egotistical and self righteous, would never allow him to do what is right in the end. This series will always bring me joy though. Its so much better than anything we get now a days.
“…which by law, makes two men bonded for life,” is worth a 100 upvotes.
As a diehard DC fan for life, this is seriously my favorite channel on UA-cam.
totally agree
Samee
Leo is amazing
I appreciate that he puts so much thought into the best properties DC has put out. I could watch his Smallville and DCAU stuff over and over again, because I watch those shows over and over again.
“THIS IS *SMALLVILLE!* ”
I think that’s one of Micheal’s best lines of the show, possibly one of the greatest in the show itself. The way he delivers it too like that’s a taste of the Lex Luthor that Superman will face off against in the near future. Even the line about Clark’s dad was so dark, you could see Lex tear up about it, like he envied Jonathan Kent’s love for Clark, he looked up to him more than his his own father. He tried so desperately to make The Kent’s see he wasn’t his dad and he was genuinely just a good man seeking the truth.
It hurt him so much that Clark lied to him for years and kept lying even though he knew Lex was too smart not to know. It’s hard to keep secrets but it hurts even more when it’s your friends who are the ones lying straight to your face
In my honest opinion Micheal Rosenbaum is the best live action portrayal of Lex Luthor so far. He’s unmatched, he gave such an incredible performance and a different twist/origin for one of the greatest supervillains of all time
To be fair, Lex kept his secrets and lied to Clark too. That's what annoyed me about Lex's self righteous tirade about Clark having secrets. Let literally endangered Clark's family by sending super powered criminals to his home just to catch a Clark using his abilities.
I understand that the hypocrisy is easily a charcter trait of his, but it was annoying that it was never thrown back into his face.
@@gunguntrio1247 It's what made their dynamic so enticing. They both try to make themselves look virtuous while they are both massive hypocrites about keeping secrets. As much as they wanted to be friends they were always held back by their own hypocrisy and untrust.
@@Champsr0ck2247 I understand Lex's hypocrisy. It was just annoying that it never got thrown back at him.
@@gunguntrio1247 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Lex kept many secrets too. I'm pretty sure, since they were so close, that Clark saw some darkness in Lex or something that was off about him. They both lied to each other and to everyone else, while demanding honesty from everyone else.
Micheal Rosenbaum leaving Smallville was like when Don Knotts left The Andy Griffith Show: it just wasn’t the same. Sometimes, creators can forget that a co-star can be just as important as the lead, especially if they play off each other. In Smallville’s case, giving Lex a larger role in the finale could have made up for it, but they screwed that up as well.
I disagree. Don leaving made the show go downhill, while smallville wasn’t the same- I wouldn’t say it went downhill. Season 8-10 are great (minus doomsday character)
@@monroe8143Season 9 had some interesting moments with Zod, but the overall quality of the show definitely went down.
Yeah I totally agree with you it just like what happened with that 70 show when Topher Grace and Ashton Kutcher both left the show the quantity dropped and it was never the same again the only thing that kept the show together what's the actor that played red forman and fez
When Cutty left House in later seasons it felt really weird that they didn't bring her up. Especially when House had his recollection of people dear to him and she wasn't there
Lex leaving was honestly for the best. They had taken the character as far as they could. Once he was gone, the show was able to breathe more as they weren’t constantly trying to figure out ways to keep him in the dark allowing Clark room to finally start growing.
The beginnings of Clois this season were honestly some of my favorite bits. The show did a great job building up to their relationship by showing them grow closer during their times of grief. Lex’s downfall this season was also good, but the final scene in the fortress was what I had really been waiting for. Finally seeing Lex’s hero syndrome come to a head as Clark tells him he can choose to be good felt ripped from the comics. That scene was the epitome of the Superman/Lex Luthor rivalry
I guess if you like Lois. I just think it happened way too late. They should have changed something.What she was introduced possibly in season four.
Season seven is such a mixed bag, but I never stopped loving the show, that scene of lex and Clark at the grave is sooooooo good
To me, it starts to elevate at this point. The show still never changed from what it did best, but now it stops doing that holding back on doing full comic books stuff & season 8 went eyebrows deep ... or drow bone deep, for the sake of a kinda doomsday pun.😂
@@gamecitysavior2910 people either love or hate the last 3 seasons, I’m in the love side, season 8 had the lowest lows imo, but the first 10 episodes are really compelling
@@logan2bIn my opinion season 9 was the best out of the last 3 seasons. They screwed up the end episodes in 8 and 10 but those seasons still had great story arcs
@@tvguy61 some of that stuff that’s a retcon that makes no sense I completely forget about/ignore
@@tvguy61all the convoluted Veritas isn’t something I dwell on or care to make sense of
As sad as it was to see Michael Rosenbaum leave, I think the show got better overall in seasons 8-10 despite his absence. The show had been slowly slipping year after year, and season 7 was among the worst of the whole run. I kind of forgot about the writer's strike that year, that definitely would've added to the problem. With Kreuk and Rosenbaum not coming back, and the showrunner change-up, the show felt revitalized. It was very different, but not in a bad way.
I appreciated 1-7 as the prequel it was, then 8-10 were more of a bridge, a spin off but not, like a lot of people, I definitely look at that era as Metropolis. I know people say a sequel series called Metropolis would’ve been good, but I think 8-10 were basically that anyway.
I agree. It was refreshing. I was tired of the Clark-Lana-Lex plots. Don't get me wrong. I loved Lex but it felt good to see the show try other things.
I did love the first half of Season 8 for sure, up until 'Legion'. Didn't like the 2nd half though. But I'm a huge fan of Seasons 9 and 10, they are actually amongst my favorite Seasons of the show, more than most of the Lex-Seasons, and Lex was my 2nd favorite character in the show. Overall, like you said, the show was different, but not in a bad way. It worked with Lex, and it worked without Lex. Plus Callum Blue's Zod, while not as good as Lex, was still good enough to fill a good part of the void that Lex's departure left.
Idk if "normal" really describes season 7 lol but it was definitely the end of an era. And it didn't come soon enough, because as much as Lex and Lana were pivotal to the success of the series, both had long outgrown their place in the show and them being there did drag the show down, at least in the way they were being portrayed at the time
The Lionel Luthor “you’ll find you’re stronger than you think you are” line hits different after reading All-Star Superman, which is strange because All-Star Superman was released after that episode.
Lana, Lionel and Lex leaving within 1 season was a big problem for the series. They should have spaced it out better if possible. Those 3 L's were the pinnacle of what drove the stories in Smallville and having all of them gone left a huge hole in keeping the series going.
Agreed, if they kept at least Lionel around to lead luthorcorp and start creating the Lex Clones that would have been fine.
Just recently rewatched and watched later seasons for first time last two weeks and I love it. The later seasons 8-10 I loved, maybe mostly because of Lois. Seven was mixed but still really enjoyed it all.
You know, now that Implicitly Pretentious mentioned the 2007-2008 Writer’s Strike, Lex’s arc here reminds me of another show made during that time. A show that, well, explored how a (smart) bald man changes from good to evil in a realistic, gradual way. It also features an underdeveloped, bitchy female lead who is trapped in their games of secrets and lies.
Obviously one show is way better than the other at doing this, but it’s great that an ultimately more episodic show like Smallville was able to develop Lex in this manner before it became all the rage to do so. All in a heightened comic book adaptation no less. This video does a good job highlighting that.
Also, very glad to see the Smallville video series continue and Implicitly Pretentious doesn’t disappoint!
Which show are you referring to?
@@felipecolon1412 Breaking Bad I think
Whew! Thanks for the save. I’ll just say this though. If Lex was still (regularly) around in Smallville after Season 7 there would’ve been comments like this.
“This is the moment where Lex Luthor became -Heisenberg- evil.”
I agree about Michael. Being the best Luthor ever!!!
Lex and Lionel hard carried the the middle seasons it wasn’t the same when they left.
According to Jung, the Trickster traditionally shows “his fondness for sly jokes and malicious pranks, his powers as a shape-shifter, his dual nature, half animal, half divine, his exposure to all kinds of tortures, and-last but not least-his approximation to the figure of a savior.”
As soon as Michael/Lex left the show the whole thing just came trumbling down, in a lot of ways he was just as important in smallville as Clark was
But I do love Oliver Queen in this show, he was great, I am so thankful that Lana left the show (she was very annoying) and Lois had way more chemistry with clark and was a more enjoyable character
I agree that Lex was very important to the show, but I don't agree that the show fell apart after he left. I felt like the quality of the show had been slipping a bit, year after year, and season 7 was one of the worst of the whole run. To me, season 8 felt like a breath of fresh air, the show had been revitalized. It moved mostly out of Smallville, started focusing more on Clark and Lois, and brought in Tess. Tess might not have been as good as Lex, but she was still really good, and she brought a change from the Clark/Lex dynamic the show had been running with for a few years.
To be clear, I do not think that Michael Rosenbaum leaving was what caused the improvement, it was probably mostly due to the new showrunners and other behind the scenes changes.
@@matthewpelletier6900 Ngl not a big fan of tess
I agree with you ever since Michael left the show after season 7 the show was never the same because Tom Did a good job carrying the show but he was missing something and it was Michael season 9 was the better season after he left the show
My favorite seasons were 1 to 4. Even if Clark and Lex were meant to become enemies, I always loved the friendship they shared as they would hang out together at the Luthor mansion or the Kent barn. Furthermore, having Clark confide in him was kind of nice too even if he didn’t fully trust him, he was a good influence on Lex. The way they became enemies felt kind of rushed in my opinion. I wish it happened later.
I remember watching the final episode of Season 7 and going wild with excitement about what was going to happen next with how it just ended on probably the biggest cliffhanger of the whole show. Then, I found out that Michael Rosenbaum wasn't returning as Lex and right away any excitement was just gone. It made me realize how much Rosenbaum brought to the show and to the character of Lex. Without him, the show just lost what made it special.
ngl the show went on just fine. season 9 and 10 are two of the best
The best Lex there will ever be…🫡
i didn't have custody of my children during these episodes and we still watched these episodes independently it was something we bonded over. i miss my kids who never call or text no matter how much i try to connect with them.
I waited so long for more smallville essay's
Man, this show is just sp freaking good!
Smallville is the best superhero TV show ever! Also it's special effects were ahead of its time.
I love that you've been making vid essays of Smallville.
16:05-18:20 is such a perfect monologue, and great music put behind it!
"His last words are--"
GARBLE CRASH CRUNCH GARBLE WOO
My favorite Lex Luthor.
He was the best, wish the smallville animated sequel actually had happened
When I was younger I didn’t like the idea of lex and Lana and John glover leaving, but as an adult I actually appreciate the last 3 seasons, especially since it’s my favorite show. And Lois is the big reason the last 3 seasons work.
Wow never expected these guys to cover Smallville 😅
The best Lois Lane & Lex Luthor for sure 👏👏👏
Best Clark also
I think this Lois so annoying.
I always wondered how Lex would have turned out if he and Clark hadn't fallen apart.
You know for a minute I genuinely thought you forgot about Smallville
Dude yes! Your Smallville videos are what led me to your channel. I love your content, but ive been eagerly awaiting videos on the rest of the show 🥳
Me too 😊
I can't wait for the Lionel video. He was the best character on the show.
The passion for Smallville when u talk about it is amazing
dude you had no diea how funny and how much i love the character introductions each vid 😭
Been waiting for this for so fucking long, absolutely love this series
… why doesn’t anyone bring up the fact that clark wears the samee outfit 80% of the show lol .
THE VIDEO I WAS WAITING FOR
To be fair, Clark was constantly gas lighting Lex, that could drive anyone to madness and isolated obsession.
This show was light years ahead of any of the Arrowverse shows.
Smallville is just a guide how to write lex luthor.
Absolutely perfect delivery at 12:54 and a great video overall. Thank you!
Jimmy Olsen's james bond parody was a series low point, and it happened immediately after Lionel's death
Great video. Ty for giving this show some love
man, this is such a good channel
What i loved about this series is this series made Lex Luthor the unsung hero of this series. Then supergirl and brainiac fly into space then we never ss them again.
What a nice refresher.😊
Either way, 8, 9 and 10 and goated.
I find it interesting that this is the only little Thor that was not a scientist who is purely a businessman. Most have been scientists in business tycoons.
The show died in Season 5 when the broke Lana & Clark up (for the 11th time...) and set her up with Lex
That was the second time they dated
I would argue that the last normal season of Smallville was Season 5, specifically when Jonathan Kent died
Lana was my least favorite character. they went with the whole "You lied to me! I can't be with you now! And I don't care why!" such a tired, greasy trope
I watched this show right up until Lex and Lana left the show, and somehow remember nothing of these "clone wars". Did I mentally block that out? 🤔
I barely remember them bringing in Bizarro
🤔 Responding to 8:36
I 1000% disagree that she's objectified. Jimmy was respectful to Kara the entire time.
Kara wasnt "objectified" her beauty was celebrated. If she were nothing more than a pair of boobs, only then could you say she was objectified.
smallville video fuck yeah. lex was the best actor and character on the show.
Dope video ❤
I loved the early seasons when they were friends
Does anyone else feel bad for Bizarro. I think its mean they killed the poor guy, he was trying to change. Lana should have just married him.
The last “normal” season of smallville was probably more like season 4, or maybe 5. Once Clark left high school the show became darker and more dramatic and felt completely different. I’m not saying bad, just different. I happen to prefer the lighter side of smallville in those early seasons but there were still some great scenes particularly with lex and Lionel in six and seven. I don’t think the writing, or the general character development was as good in six and seven and some of the things the characters talk about in the early seasons (warrior angel and devilicus for example) makes them seem like they won’t just suddenly turn into the generic superman and lex Luthor we know; they have a grounded level of self awareness that makes it seem like it wouldn’t happen on the show. Lex becomes generically evil, rather than there being more nuance to the change. You could say the show grew up in season 5-7 which is right in terms of tone and character development but really the scripting was more solid in earlier seasons. Even some of the really out there episodes were enjoyable. Just my two cents. Thanks for the vid.
Man I love your videos
I couldn't hear Bizarro's last words and the automatically generated captions didn't help!
Great vidéo. Thanks
Bro. I think you should talk about the green lantern animated series. That show was awesome.
Yes! Smallville and Arrowverse
As a smallville superfan you got my subscribe lol
I always feel so bad for Lil Lex because you know Lionel never sent out his birthday invitations.
Finally let's talk about LV's Kara (the best live action version)
God I loved Smallville.
Did you ever consider making a She-ra and the Princesses of power video? They tackle trauma really beautifully. I think you would really like it if you didn't see it. Really good animated show. Combines that childish fun and tackling tremendously deep stuff at the same time. The best kind of animated show
When Lex left smallville the show started to go downhill because they kept finding cheap knock offs of him
Zod came close but Darkseid was poorly handled
The show went downhill way before then. All changes after season 7 were needed for new life.
@@MrDp115 that is well put but a massive understatement
And it’s really telling that you didn’t mention Dudesday, @@MrDp115. As if Doomsday wasn’t already a discount Hulk, Smallville finds a way.
Sam Witwer either has the worst luck when it comes to gigs or he really needs to find a new agent. Glad he managed to make a stable living being in -insert “niche” franchise here- you know what though.
@@jasonnguyen2575 Sam did his best with Davis Bloom/Doomsday but the script went back & forth on who was the monster and not in a compelling way and that wasn't only issue i had with that season.
Gaaaaahd, I love this show. 🫠
Good video
As much as I love Smallville, it’s one of the shows that we’re on the air for too long. I didn’t care for the superheroes and Mettopolis. They should’ve ended SV and instead reboot it as „Metropolis“ with the casts and new ideas
Due to the original creators departure they didn't know how to carry on with Smallville.
I thought you said this was a normal season.
have i just never seen an actual human in the thumbnail on this channel, or is something different lmao
Having never seen Smallville, this video has been very... uh, informative so far 2:35
The sad part about lex is hes right. Lex tried Sooooo freaking hard to be friends with clark but he just kept lying and pushing him away
“As a result, it’s in his nature…..” ok
The best (by far) Lois and the prettiest (by far) Supergirl.
4:30 Yeah that's comic books.
Good lord I forget she founded them
Seasons 8-10 were the best.
I have never been so early
Me either.
Yeah, Smallville hadn't been the same since Michael Rosenbaum left the show after season 7.
15:25 Supermatural Finale? Didnt it keep going? When did Smallville end?
Season 7 was such an awful season. Clark was for majority of it a side character is hiw own show and got even dumber. They focused too much on Chloe and Jimmy because it was easier to come up with soap opera crap than do a good story about the guy who will become the best superhero there is. They made a cool version of Bizarro only to waste him. They ruined Zor-El by turning him into a petty man dominated by jealousy. Lana should have been written out of the show after season 3. The only saving grace was Lex and his arc to become Clark's greatest enemy. And yet they found a way to waste it by killing him prematurely then make him return as a clone without memory.
Smallville is like that ex girlfriend that you had tons of good memories, but also tons of bad ones that outweighs the good ones.
The good definitely out ways the bad season 7 wasn't even that bad it was just meh everything else in the show other than the lana stuff mostly is goated tv and entertaining and fun to watch my favorite show ever
@@lifeisberserk9566 Smallville had great stuffs but they had also tons of bad stuffs. Mainly how Clark is portrayed in the show for the most part. And season 7 was insanely bad. It's just not the worst because season 10 wins in that regard
@@GiovanniAlckmimRusso Clark's character was perfect the best live action Clark Kent
@@lifeisberserk9566 the Clark Kent is not a self centered dumb whiny prick, so no, he is not
@@lifeisberserk9566 no. Clark in the show started as a great character, but over the time became an incompetent annoying immature prick. Of course, this is on the writers, but still, they failed the character. It was stupid how whenever Clark had a big character development, he would go back to square 1
I think most good shows got about 6 seasons. Then hit and misses or just misses after that. A lot of CW content did pretty good for a long time. Breaking Bad ended at a perfect time but I wish someone would have ended The Walking Dead at an appropriate time.
6:10 uuh.. wot 😐
oh that ISIS.. wait ISIS is established back 2004 🤨📸
Love the sarcasm
The constant back and forth appearance of the characters who were there before but then left for 1 season and then again appears while the writers took out or sidelined major characters was when it went downhill. God i was so mad when they just casually finished lex character but were still not over with lana like what was the point? And why lois literally takes break for episodes and then she comes back solving cases, feeling jealous or relatable for without a reason. She was so irritating and an annoying one. I just couldn't stand her
12:47 if I had water in my mouth. I would have spit it out.
Superman is Soldier Boy?
Calling this the last normal season is spot on. John Glover is always great as a well-dressed corporate douchebag, Michael Rosenbaum was the best part of the show, and frankly, i thought everything about the Doomsday arc was stupid.