I mean..he did have chemistry with star...its just they kept FORCING star and marco to speed run to each other which made it less natural and awkward compared to if they just..werent into each other romantically at first at all and if teh show had treated the other relationships properly and let them run their course...plus ...honestly star and tom had felt like they had gotten stronger at the end before the breakup so the breakup had felt awkward..especially when they never really showed marco and kelly dating properly or breaking up after seeing him and kelly get together
they had good chemistry, but they force them to be lovers instead of actual genuine best friends. i was so excited to see more of them cause of that dynamic, i thought we could have more boy-girl tandem that isn't lovers trope. but nope, they have to do that.
@@Thesmus honestly if they wanted star and marco to be endgame they should have done what kim possible did. treat the times they had romantic interest in others with respect and seriously, let that play out properly while letting them be best friends.
Ikr, he wasn’t even like, “How would you feel if I kissed one of your friends?” no, just straig-….never mind, just Marco immediately.Btw I absolutely HATE that Disney cancelled tomco, ‘cause it was supposed to be canon.
Tbf, there's a difference between confirming Star is bi outside of the show (though the scene implying it was there and no hate to the creators on this, it was intentionally made to have reasonable deniability to not piss of homophobic parents) and having two main male characters get together at the end. I'm really glad people are starting to talk about the double standard of mlm relationships not getting as much obvious rep as wlw, (saw two videos on it in my yt reccs today), because obviously, I am SO happy for the wlw ships we're getting but it sucks that we can't get that for mlm ships, too.@@Huh9631
The ship Tomco only clicked for me as a concept when Tom told Star (during their breakup) that he wanted to date "someone he could be best friends with." Marco was such an attractive harem protagonist that he charmed his main love interest's BOYFRIEND. If Tom was "Tamara" instead, then "Tamco" might have been a canon ship for a bit.
@@wonder1440 hey, what's your deal? you replied for a good amount of tomco comments outa here. why do you care about what others think of them so much?
@marchuuk Because Marco can't be gay and it ties into his Turdina alter ego. The character was designed to show boys they can feel emotions like compassion and sympathy and still be heterosexual boys. It's stereotypes that he's breaking because people look at things and label them. Even this video has to take things out of context to make something out of nothing.
2:07 literally me in this moment (can we talk about how tom say "i should be dating someone i could be best friends with" and in the next second ", you- you're my best friend" to marco, i just need to someone talk about it 😭)
I have no idea how I managed to watch this show my entire childhood with only realizing recently, after SEVEN OR EIGHT YEARS, just how… gay these two were. Like, obviously, they were never together, but this is some serious bromance practically pleading to have the fandom ship this xDD
So based on these clips we can safely say that Tom has a crush on marco and is trying really hard to hide it. 2:43 from this clip alone he clearly hesitaded
I actually head cannon that they had a crush on each other but they either never realized it or Marco just felt like that world wanted him with star and so he went with that
2:53 Marco didn’t deny anything. He only changed the subject since he was clearly embarrassed. Tom didn’t say anything because, in my opinion, he was worried that his crush on Marco was obvious.
@@lupinforestgreen7614 Tomco was never planned. Where do you come up with this? Less than 1% of the show had Tom/Marco interaction. There's more Marco/Janna interaction
@@wonder1440 I made my comment in the spirit of "X walked so Y could run." Or rather: Tomco never got its chance to shine so that Lumity could break the mold. Tom and Marco had fantastic chemistry when they interacted with each other and in my opinion could have been couple goals had their potential been explored. There's nothing wrong with Starco but mutual attraction aside their dynamic always seemed more like platonic besties and occasionally siblings to me.
This is the only time I’ve seen a love triangle in a show and thought “Yep, they should just be poly together.” They’re already both kissing star, and Tom definitely seems like he has a thing for Marco. The only thing left is : does Marco have a thing for Tom? I actually think he might. Idk maybe I’m just making assumptions.
Not gonna lie: personally, I wouldn't mind this outcome. A sense of purity through progression strikes between these 2, so I can't really sit here and be like "that ain't happening." Perhaps not originally, but imaginarily.
Honestly would have been better than starco, disney rlly forced the romance with them it felt awkward and tbh star doesn't seem the type to even be in a relationship. I can see her trying to rule alone and only "marrying" to have an heir but other than that she just seems too wild to ever wanna settle down Tomco although probably wouldn't be as good as any of us hope (bc the show doesn't know how to write relationships) would have at least a fun dynamic. Tom and Marco seem the most compatible bc Tom eventually actually sees Marco as an equal and treats him well and Marco seems to be the only one that can get through to Tom
I think Marco, Tom, and Star shouldve been in a poly relationship. They all had really good chemistry with each other and its a shame to see Tom left out. It also sucks that Marco never got to be transfem. He originally supposed to be trans but they didnt let it happen :(
Although transfem rep would be nice, I do honestly do like that Marco can dress feminine, as a woman without him being seen as less of a man. (This is partially because I am a cis women who likes to dress up as a man sometimes, and it makes me uncomfortable when people say I am not “feminine” or “womanly” enough, though I am a woman and comfortable with it, and I do dress up feminine rest of the time.) HARD agree with you on the poly ship, their trio moments were so good! They have such great chemistry, All of them really just love each other, even if it is canonically only platonically.
My personal favorite ship is stomco (Star/Marco/Tom). I don't think that, even in our current day and age, that it would ever be accepted in a kids show, but they give me the vibe that they'd make a really great poly relationship
we spirald high on a gust of love and i knew right from the start nothing could tear us apart... until the day you broke my heart. and now its... to little to late
I don't see this show, I'll probably never do it, I don't know anything about it but it was on my recomendations, and if you tell me this guys are not dating you're not only lying to me, you are lying to yourselves
Actually I really like that Tom and Marco have such a fantastic BROmance instead of ROmance. We need more sincere platonic relationships in the media. If you love a person it doesn't mean this can only be romantic or erotic. Love is love, love for a sibling and for a friend can be as beautiful as romantic.
I’m in a weird place where I ship stomco (star x Tom x Marco) but I don’t ship any of their individual relationships. (I mean, i did love star x Tom, but it was ruined whenever star got super longing for Marco). I need them, and love them, as a trio. Beach episode? Peak. The three of them together, their hugs, are just so cute. It’s really great, because I can always watch these videos and pretend the third person is just off doing something else at the current time. Anyway, this is fun, love the video.
Don't you just love how Marco had better chemistry with nearly every other character he interacted with than with Star?
I mean..he did have chemistry with star...its just they kept FORCING star and marco to speed run to each other which made it less natural and awkward compared to if they just..werent into each other romantically at first at all and if teh show had treated the other relationships properly and let them run their course...plus ...honestly star and tom had felt like they had gotten stronger at the end before the breakup so the breakup had felt awkward..especially when they never really showed marco and kelly dating properly or breaking up after seeing him and kelly get together
they had good chemistry, but they force them to be lovers instead of actual genuine best friends. i was so excited to see more of them cause of that dynamic, i thought we could have more boy-girl tandem that isn't lovers trope. but nope, they have to do that.
@@Thesmus honestly if they wanted star and marco to be endgame they should have done what kim possible did. treat the times they had romantic interest in others with respect and seriously, let that play out properly while letting them be best friends.
Star came off as so Aromantic with comphet ngl
This
1:10 it’s so funny how casually Tom puts himself in the situation of kissing Marco without being weird about it
Ikr, he wasn’t even like, “How would you feel if I kissed one of your friends?” no, just straig-….never mind, just Marco immediately.Btw I absolutely HATE that Disney cancelled tomco, ‘cause it was supposed to be canon.
"How would you feel if I kissed one of your friends? Like... Marco? Later today? Like, after this conversation?"
@@Montesama314 at this point he's just saying "mom said it's my turn on the xbox."
Not sure if "funny" is the right word, maybe "amazing".
For me, this is the confirmation that Tom is not straight (and that he and Marco should kiss)
Just from these clips, it makes me convinced that Tomco was their original intention, but scrapped it in fear of audience backlash.
Pretty ironic given that Starco became canon and, yeah I'm sure you probably know what happened
I think it’s more so that Disney just didn’t let them do it
It’s not that because star is actually bi, it’s cuz the fandom shipped starco
Tbf, there's a difference between confirming Star is bi outside of the show (though the scene implying it was there and no hate to the creators on this, it was intentionally made to have reasonable deniability to not piss of homophobic parents) and having two main male characters get together at the end. I'm really glad people are starting to talk about the double standard of mlm relationships not getting as much obvious rep as wlw, (saw two videos on it in my yt reccs today), because obviously, I am SO happy for the wlw ships we're getting but it sucks that we can't get that for mlm ships, too.@@Huh9631
Yeah, personally, and don't come after me. Starci feels stiff and forced, I personally think that tomco would've worked better.
"Ooo the love birds finally showed up"
"Um are we doingg the jump or what...."
0:44 “SAY I’M A GOOD BOYFRIEND!” “NEVER!!” will always be my favourite quote because it’s just so hilarious out of context
definitely my favorite out of context moment lmao
Also kinda dark when you think about it
Yea Definitely and in a way make me think of (❤tomco❤)
I just realised that without context A LOT of moments are seen as Tomco
Alot of it even with context is still tomco
@@flowerteapot-zy3ouyup
The ship Tomco only clicked for me as a concept when Tom told Star (during their breakup) that he wanted to date "someone he could be best friends with."
Marco was such an attractive harem protagonist that he charmed his main love interest's BOYFRIEND.
If Tom was "Tamara" instead, then "Tamco" might have been a canon ship for a bit.
SAY IT LOUDER!!!! (Plus the homophoic ppl that rule d*sn*y made the whole show a fucking trash when they forced starco.)
"If I had kissed Marco..." - Tom
Just make out already
Fr
2:55
Okay but neither Marco nor Tom denied it...
Marco did. He was obviously not happy with what Talon said.
@@wonder1440 ??? No, he was just embarrassed. I hated it when people kept calling me and my future boyfriend gay
@@wonder1440 he looks embarrassed
@@wonder1440 hey, what's your deal? you replied for a good amount of tomco comments outa here. why do you care about what others think of them so much?
@marchuuk Because Marco can't be gay and it ties into his Turdina alter ego. The character was designed to show boys they can feel emotions like compassion and sympathy and still be heterosexual boys. It's stereotypes that he's breaking because people look at things and label them. Even this video has to take things out of context to make something out of nothing.
That last one cannot be explained, they could've denied it but they didn't 💀
Shout out to the one guy who said "I like this", a true homie
His tone cracks me up every time.
2:07 literally me in this moment (can we talk about how tom say "i should be dating someone i could be best friends with" and in the next second ", you- you're my best friend" to marco, i just need to someone talk about it 😭)
ДА! ДА ДА ДА
exactly, everything hints to Tom liking Marco, he was the one to actually helped Tom become a better person in the 2 season!!!
I have no idea how I managed to watch this show my entire childhood with only realizing recently, after SEVEN OR EIGHT YEARS, just how… gay these two were. Like, obviously, they were never together, but this is some serious bromance practically pleading to have the fandom ship this xDD
Damn Tom is more down bad for Marco than I remember
I know right
NO BUT THAT EP WHERE THEY SANG A SONG TOGETHER OF THEIR FAV GROUP ALL SAD AND EMO... DAMN THAT SCENE CAN'T GET OUT OF MY MIND
A funny thing is that Tomco was supposed to be Cannon but Disney didn't accept that
I HATE DISNEY FOR THIS SO MUCH 😢
Really? Where did u find this stuff out? I’ve heard people say it but I’ve never seen where the info comes from
@@Kind_King127-yz5hs from google i looked up if tomco was supposed to be cannon and turns out it was
@@MentallyDayzi "Google" just told you? What website?
@@nkbujvytcygvujno6006 One of the show writers comment on a tweet
SAY
IM A GOOD BOYFRIEND
*NEVEER*
I love that especially the way marco says never lol
Watching these two together made me realize more than ever that I'm a Tomco stan
I can understand that
So based on these clips we can safely say that Tom has a crush on marco and is trying really hard to hide it.
2:43 from this clip alone he clearly hesitaded
I actually head cannon that they had a crush on each other but they either never realized it or Marco just felt like that world wanted him with star and so he went with that
@@billykaplan9915 yes that's kinda how i see it too i just believed it for so much time i forgot it was just a headcanon
Honestly, I feel like they would be super aggressive boyfriends who secretly love each other. Tomco is (in my opinion) better than Starco. ❤️
Agreed (until the episode where they Canonically made Marco a grown man 😌)
"OoOoO the lovers birds finally showed up" YEYEYEYE I AGREE WITH H MR❤❤❤❤❤❤
I thought the same thing when Tom said "Say I'm a good boyfriend"
Me when I see Tomco: 2:07
2:23-2:30 Uh-uh. Pull it back, Marco. Pull it back.
2:53 Marco didn’t deny anything. He only changed the subject since he was clearly embarrassed. Tom didn’t say anything because, in my opinion, he was worried that his crush on Marco was obvious.
😳возможно
Tomco walked so Lumity could RUN
(i love them all)
TRUE OMGGG
Fun fact: tomco was suppose to be cannon but Disney cancelled it
Why would that cancel it. Tomco is amazing
I hate Disney now
W disney
@@scrumbo_07 what do u mean with that
I'm canceling, and sue the heck out of disney
THEY MADE LUMITY CANON, WHY NOT TOMOCO 😭😭😭
YESSSS THIS IS BREAKING MY HEART💔
It was different back then ig
Tomco bled and died on the sacrificial pyre so Lumity could soar.
@@lupinforestgreen7614 Tomco was never planned. Where do you come up with this? Less than 1% of the show had Tom/Marco interaction. There's more Marco/Janna interaction
@@wonder1440 I made my comment in the spirit of "X walked so Y could run." Or rather: Tomco never got its chance to shine so that Lumity could break the mold. Tom and Marco had fantastic chemistry when they interacted with each other and in my opinion could have been couple goals had their potential been explored. There's nothing wrong with Starco but mutual attraction aside their dynamic always seemed more like platonic besties and occasionally siblings to me.
0:48 Not bro saying that😂 And then Marco agrees😂
Good god they have so much chemistry-
This is the only time I’ve seen a love triangle in a show and thought “Yep, they should just be poly together.” They’re already both kissing star, and Tom definitely seems like he has a thing for Marco. The only thing left is : does Marco have a thing for Tom? I actually think he might. Idk maybe I’m just making assumptions.
Not gonna lie: personally, I wouldn't mind this outcome. A sense of purity through progression strikes between these 2, so I can't really sit here and be like "that ain't happening." Perhaps not originally, but imaginarily.
I love so much the "SAY I'M A GOOD BOYFRIEND" one xD
Is this the universe's way of telling me to check for them on ao3 again?
litterally was the healthiest relationship T^T
"THAT DANCE WAS MEANT FOR ME"👺
"Hey that dance was meant for me - aaaa I'm just kidding"😂
I am never getting over the fact that Tomco could've been canon
I love ur edits on tiktok lol
awww thank you!!
best thing I’ve ever seen, I used to be a tomco fan when the show first came out and now I’m becoming one again 😭
Ok but if the “ say I’m a good boyfriend” scene was meant for Tom o it would be sooooo adorable OMG
I’m not 100% sure but i think that tomco was cannon but disney didn’t allow it
2:06 all tomco stans after watching this video:
You say what if, but deep in my heart I know they are canon, even if Disney refuses to acknowledge them. 😤
if only disney wasn't homophobic
I mean there’s owl house
THEY WERE GONNA DO IT- WHY DIDNT THEYYYYY OMNGMG
bc disney is homophobic 😔
the first scene with no context sounded like tom wanted to dance with marco
@@jamesandrew8331 EXACTLYYYY
tomco and startomco are my favs honestly. I also liked the potential of a few other marco ships. god, he just has chemistry with everyone 😭💀
0:39 Me to Marco : u wish that was you huh?
Not me squealing like a little girl who just got twice the amount of Christmas presents than before 🤭
I really like Tomco as a whole
Honestly would have been better than starco, disney rlly forced the romance with them it felt awkward and tbh star doesn't seem the type to even be in a relationship. I can see her trying to rule alone and only "marrying" to have an heir but other than that she just seems too wild to ever wanna settle down
Tomco although probably wouldn't be as good as any of us hope (bc the show doesn't know how to write relationships) would have at least a fun dynamic. Tom and Marco seem the most compatible bc Tom eventually actually sees Marco as an equal and treats him well and Marco seems to be the only one that can get through to Tom
I feel like they have better chemistry--
Чел...? Ты говоришь факты
“I like this.” -Me
queer rep: omg!!! i like boys but... I'm a boy??? >////<
queerbait:
Also either way Tomco would either be canon or one sided
0:30 RWAWEE👿
2:10 bruuuuuuuhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh That chemistry brotherly bind
0:18 and Marco
1:11 this is getting real
Knowing that Rider strong does the voice of Tom and has a strong relationship with a male character just like his boy meets world character
0:36 plot twist, he was jealous of star, not tom
I really hate Starco. It’s the worst relationship of the entire show, Tomco and Jarco are 🔛🔝
I think Marco, Tom, and Star shouldve been in a poly relationship. They all had really good chemistry with each other and its a shame to see Tom left out.
It also sucks that Marco never got to be transfem. He originally supposed to be trans but they didnt let it happen :(
Although transfem rep would be nice, I do honestly do like that Marco can dress feminine, as a woman without him being seen as less of a man. (This is partially because I am a cis women who likes to dress up as a man sometimes, and it makes me uncomfortable when people say I am not “feminine” or “womanly” enough, though I am a woman and comfortable with it, and I do dress up feminine rest of the time.)
HARD agree with you on the poly ship, their trio moments were so good! They have such great chemistry, All of them really just love each other, even if it is canonically only platonically.
Me at the beginning of SVTFOE “Yeah Marco and Star are sibling goals”
Me at the end: 😧
My personal favorite ship is stomco (Star/Marco/Tom). I don't think that, even in our current day and age, that it would ever be accepted in a kids show, but they give me the vibe that they'd make a really great poly relationship
Best bromance 😊 and I do kinda ship it ❤
they wouldve been such a fun relationship. We deserved them 😭
I haven't even seen one whole episode and I actually tougth this was canon
I haven't seen much of the show mainly because my parents wouldnt let me and my brother but after seeing this i must watch it
Wouldn't be the first time that Rider Strong played a character who had a bromance with his best friend
I like this >:(
2:53 Oh wow
Tomco is canon it got to be 😢😢😢😢😢😢
❤❤❤❤❤❤
0:18
This as a Starco moment is actually really funny
2:13 in this part he gave everything away 😂😂
Tomco shpuld have been endgame
Wattpad is my friend 🤝
Upgrade that to Archive of Our Own soon but at your own pace ofc. I dislike the ads on wattpad nowadays
@@avourrito1819THERE’S ADS?
Starco vs Startom vs Tomco? Lol, no!
Startomco! All of them! All three!
I mean, this relationship had more spark and dimension to it than Star and Marco had.
nah after seeing the last scene i realized how gay these guys are
we spirald high on a gust of love and i knew right from the start nothing could tear us apart... until the day you broke my heart. and now its... to little to late
only fans will get this
2:08 “I like this.😠”
In an alternative universe Tomco is canon. They just never went to that one specifically
I still Ship them😼
I don't see this show, I'll probably never do it, I don't know anything about it but it was on my recomendations, and if you tell me this guys are not dating you're not only lying to me, you are lying to yourselves
@@outsider186 absolutely
This comment is gold
okay but hear me out; startomco
I’m your 8k like
"say. im a. good. boyfriend!"
1:53 YASSS
Actually I really like that Tom and Marco have such a fantastic BROmance instead of ROmance. We need more sincere platonic relationships in the media. If you love a person it doesn't mean this can only be romantic or erotic. Love is love, love for a sibling and for a friend can be as beautiful as romantic.
Мне нравится эти двое❤жаль они все таки не стали каноном😅
1:51 marco: When GTA
When i started the series i always saw Marco and Star as siblings... They ruined it for me 😭😭😭😭
THISS!!! BUT STARCO SHIPPERS LITERALLY HATE ME IF I SAY THAT!! 😭😭😭
OMG I just realized Yon reminds me of Zuko
It's so weird listening to the original dubbing. Idk, the brazilian dubbing just fits so perfectly...
okay though just to start some drama (/j)
the better ship name is mom
So we are just ignoreing them being called love birds in cannon!
I’m in a weird place where I ship stomco (star x Tom x Marco) but I don’t ship any of their individual relationships. (I mean, i did love star x Tom, but it was ruined whenever star got super longing for Marco). I need them, and love them, as a trio. Beach episode? Peak. The three of them together, their hugs, are just so cute. It’s really great, because I can always watch these videos and pretend the third person is just off doing something else at the current time. Anyway, this is fun, love the video.
Время проходит а это до сих пор мой любимый корабль
i wish they realized polyamory was a thing