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The Navy is the smartest arm of the Indian Military. They know their priority and procurement process is better than the Air Force.
yep indian airforce kinda mid
Bhai Army se karo....AF thodi mature hai army se...
(Meanwhile me accusing all three🤡)
What sucks is they don't even get enough funds with proportion to other forces and their requirement
I have noticed that Navy's Planning is best among all three wings.
Yes, yet they receive the lowest money among all 😒
Then you haven't read about Indian navy enough.
@@angryhusky2467 maybe not
bro successfully created number matrix in my brain 🤣🤣🤯... still processing
A blue screen like alpha defence with numbers and graphics would be best.
Haha
Indian Navy: We want 3rd aircraft carrier.
Indian Govt: Okay, Wait till 2040 when one of your current aircraft will get retired.
Pakistani should not be concerned about that .
By 2040 we won't get, we will get its approval. 2060
2080 hahaha 😂
I guess 2099 me Approval milega! 😅
I guess 2099 me Approval milega 😅😂
Navy needs 3 Active careers and 1 on repair mode total 4 careers needed
I had read somewhere that we don't need another aircraft carrier , balki uske paiso mai we need more destroyers , frigates and submarines, what's your thoughts about it ❓
We don't need it right now, but we need to maintain 2 carriers, that's why they are working on the 3rd
@@AvijeetK 👍🏼got your point
For submarine we don't we more cash
we are in need of a partner
plus we need 3rd IAC to guard our indian ocean
@@Deepak_Kharayat_in simple words if you just want to defend your water then ac is not mandatory but if you want to defend+ attack in short wanna rule the ocean ac is mandatory
Indian government will decide only when Chinese super carrier will deploy in Indian Ocean which is not very far away.
Looks like another 25 years project!
Rafale m is confirmed, Dassault even said it in thier website,I heard that the number of rafale m was decreased from 56 something to 26 because of tedbf , so if vikrant doesn't get tedbf reducing rafale m was a mistake, especially if it has to replace mig 29 k
Always consider HAL factor for fighters while reaching/ predicting timelines..adding 2-3 yrs. more
Definitely, hope that Navy would have done the Technology Benefit and Threat Assessment before confirmation of Request. Also, Aircraft carriers being soft targets, with Satellites monitoring 24×7, and Drones , Mini Submarines, Killer Satellites etc, Navy must have taken the Threat Assessment. We have to believe and keep Faith in our Navy. Jai Durge.
India needs to increase its budget .almost 15 to 20 % of the defense budget goes to navy which is not enough in any sense and revolutionise it's defense industry . Given our needs we need to have a strong control over our sees to defend and choke our major enemy and we lack that capability either a revolution in technology or high caliber weapon we need. both highly unlikely given our investment
CAPEX is only at $20 B
We need to increase this, at least twice in 10 years like our economy becomes twice in 10 years.
It's better to take start discussing with British authorities and navy about the hms queen elizabeth if they want to sell ....
5eyes / AUKUS will share the operation cost. Very low chance of selling.
It gets broken regularly, it is a bad carrier with high maintained, and less capabality
It gets broken regularly, it is a bad carrier with high maintained, and less capabality
It gets broken regularly, it is a bad carrier with high maintained, and less capabality
@@rachnasingh9826 still we could improve its mechanical or design problem atleast it would be better and modern than admiral ghorschokov or now ins vikramaditya
Indian navy sabse smarter hai army or air force se apni requirememt ko pura kar rahi hai aur new technology bhi induct kar rahi hai vahi air force abhi tak MMRCA par decision nahi le payi hai
old intro is back🔥🔥
Indian Navy LHD ship update video 🇮🇳
Why isn't the navy focusing on the submarines and destroyers as they are on carriers
Exactly
Sir...3 AC plan is ok but if our IN wants to be a real naval power & absolutely control the 'extended' IOR region, we will need 4-5 ACs in next 15-20 years...a possible optimal plan would be start another Vikrant-class while working on 65000t catapult carrier...to gain experience in design & operations of such carriers we might look at purchasing HMS Prince of Wales, if available, or one of the near de-commissioning USN carrier...as its not just about building a large carrier, its about optimizing the design as well as efficient operations on these 'giants' & not to forget it would be our first catapult carrier in recent decades
Realistically speaking Indian defence budget will not be able to afford many aircraft carriers they need escorts naval vessels as well .......better options are submarines
@@yashrajkataria9333 Sir....submarines are for area 'denial' role but for area 'domination' we need Aircraft Carriers or other major surface combatants....true that our current budget might not be adequate but 10-15 years down the line it just might be
Why we need super carrier like USA or China. We have the ecosystem to make another 2-3 aircraft carrier of INS Vikrant class with a shorter period of time . Follow the Chinese way of Just copy pest & order more Rafale M.This is more economic also. Another way is just to buy 2nd Aircraft carrier of Queen Elizabeth class & then modifying it according to our capacity if UK agree to sell it.
You did a good job, but you forgot to take one thing into consideration.
You assumptions of building timeline of IAC-3 and TEDBF is based on India's current manufacturing capabilities. Whereas we are talkies about 2030-40. In the next 10-15 years india will have significant capability boast, and likewise the time of building one ship will also go down significantly. Also our economy will be big enough to take multiple projects at once. Yes I am not saying our capabilities will be matching that of china, but it will be way better than what we are now today.
I seriously doubt that it will take us 15 years to build a nuclear power carrier, that's actually a very big exaggeration. If we are taking that the order of IAC-3 will be given in 2033-35, then it would likely only take around 6-10 years (6 years at best, 10 years at Max). Same with the production of TEDBF, by the time TEDBF comes in production (around 2033), india would have enough capability to deliver all TEBFs, faster than what we are now.
So given the timeline, IAC 2 will be completed by 2032 (given the orders are given in 2026), and if from 2034 the order of IAC-3 was given, then we would get IAC-3 by 2040-42 (depending on the order date, it can be faster of slower than this)
Indian navy bought sitting ducks because they never utilize in the war until unless its metal scrap after passing of year
there is also a possibility that TEDBF doesn't get approved till AMCA's prototype development and then they decide to eventually design a 2nd 5th gen aircraft for the navy this time.
Or they might just change it into AMCA marine variant. But again these are just hypothesis.
Ha ye bhi sach hai, Indian defence view se 3rd' Aircraft carrier ka bahut hi jaruri hai !
Good volume level from few videos lately...
I think french aircraft carrier chalres d goule will be a good aircraft carrier for studying . For emals technology and nuclear powered aircraft carrier. In 65000 ton category.
Technology development never follows a given expected timeline.
If they really want please tell them to make a flattop CATOBAR varient
Keep it as the 4 th. A truly deep blue water naval carrier. We still do not have the technology finesse for that. Build a small destroyer with nuclear reactor and meanwhile build a 3 rd ski jump. I still feel we need lots more submarines , especially to shadow the Chinese spy ships
Charles de Gaulle aircraft carrier route is wrong small runway means heave stress on jets for takeoff and less operational life.
Approvals aur fund release ka time bahot jyada hota hai. Iss par kaam karna chahiye. Nahi to results bahot dangerous ho sakte hain. Not INS. IAF ke bhi.
I think most of all, The Navy needs to justify what kind of sea control and power projection it can achieve with the Vikrant class and with barely 1 squadron (~20 figthers + other helicopters) worth of planes, against whom and in what scenarios. If it turns out that the Vikrant class is only good for training and we really need the 65K ton carrier, then the Navy will not be getting those any time soon, one due to lack of necessary technologies and due to the immense operating cost (A Nimitz class carrier reportedly costs ~$20 million annually), so these will not be cheap by any standards.
A 40k-ton carrier is not a threat to any navy. Due to design, size, and payload capacity constraints, these mini-carriers are toothless tigers. Although the IN carriers carry Mig-29s and later Rafale-Ms, these aircraft cannot take off with a comprehensive payload. Even on US carriers, their plane takes off with minimum fuel and conducts buddy-to-buddy refueling after takeoff. Also, the Mig-29s only meet some of the requirements for a carrier-based strike aircraft. The next major disadvantage of the IN aircraft carriers is their need for better AEW. The existing Ka-31 AEW solution is rudimentary, with limited endurance and range. To operate a desirable solution like the E-2 Hawkeye will require a longer runway with assisted takeoff, which can only be implemented on larger aircraft carriers.
With these two inadequacies, we can conclude that the existing Vikrant class aircraft carriers are more of a liability than a threat and should, in the future, be replaced by larger ones. I understand the current situation did not allow for building larger warships. Still, the IN should work on creating an environment where they are not handicapped by the country's screwups and help the industry meet their expectations.
In the navies of the future, there will be only two types of ships- submarines and their targets😅
1st iaf tejas aircraft has crashed in Rajasthan during a training exercise.
Next Vikrant Class AC should be tested with Catapult Launch system. That's what we need now.
We would need 2 65k Tonne AC in the future plus ONE 1 Lakh Ton AC by 2070.
This is the right choice.
It will be the fourth,since a second Vikrant class is already confirmed.Actually the IN will need 6-8 carriers.
1) IAC -2 ka order sal
2023 me diya gaya tha ise complete hone me 2028 ya 2030 tak ka samy lagega
2) IAC-3 ka order sal 2024 me diya jata hai yah sal 2032 tak ban jayega
4 = years design
7 = years devlopment and manufacturing + high-tech instrument installation
4 years for testing
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Total 15 years lagegenge
3) but navy ko thoda ambitious hona padega aur jab 65000 tonn class ka aircraft carrier banana hi rahe hai
To fir kyu na use nuclear powerd air craft carrier banaya jaye aur isaka strict demand navy ko gov ke samane rakahana chahiye .
4) jab indian navy IAC-3 ko announced kar hi rahi hai tab kyu na usi samy usi time line me
Nuclear powered reactor ke reserch and devlopment ke liye announcement kar diya jaye usako bhi banane me 15 years lagegenge
But IAC-3 nuclear power aircraft carrier ho aur bhi accha .....
5) man lo in case 15 sal me nuclear reactor nahi banata hai to use IAC-4 90,000 class aircraft carrier me used kar lenge but usaka reserch and devlopment work na roka jaye ......
( aur in case 15 sal me nuclear reactor nahi banata hai to dusara alternative bhi dhund ke rakha jaye navy dwara taki IAC-3 aur late na ho )
6) IAC-4 hame lagega hi aur yah jab tak 90,000 class ka na ho tab tak maza nahi aayega
Hame bhi bhi usa class ke aircraft carrier jaisa class me shamil hona hai in future hamari economy ko dekhate huye ek to aircraft carrier es class ka hum afford kar hi sakate hai .😅😅😅
Bro IAC-2 ki deal signing abhi nhi hui hai abhi, DAC ki approval mili hai.
CCS ka approval abhi baaki hai.
2-3 saal uspe bhi lag jayega, waha se 5-7 saal development ka ➡️ 7-10 years translates to 2031-34.
Parallel me hi 2028-29 tak IAC-3 ka order diya ja sakta hai jo ki best hoga,waha se 12 saal IAC-3 ko banane me lagenge ➡️ 2040 tak hamare paas TEDBF bhi ready hoga mass produce hone ke liye.
2040s me hum IAC-4 supercarrier ko induct kr sakte hai agar order 2035-38 ke bich me aya toh.
@@fly463 na kochin ship yard me ek sath 2 air craft carrier pe work kiya ja sakata hai unke dry dock facility me
So ek hi samy pe IAC-2 aur IAC-3 pe hum work start kar sakate hai
1) IAC-2 ka konfiguration ins vikarnt se hi liya jana hai so isame jyada samy nahi lagega sirf 5 ya 7 years me isako complete hojana chahiye
Iac-2 = 2024+5 =2029
Iac-2 = 2024+7 =2031 yah iac-2 ka time line rahega
2) Rahi bat Iac-3 ka to yah hum complete 65,000 tonn ka new design bana rahe hai to isame 15 years tak ka samy lagege mere khayal se.
Iac-3 = 2024+15=2039 yah time line rahega isaka
Isi taraha
4) iac -4 ke liye jaye to tum sahi ho 2040 ke bad hi yah start hopayega np jaisa bhi bas hona chahiye indian navy jitana mzboot hoga is region utana peace maintain hopayega .
British HMS Queen Elizabeth ka kya hua ?
हमे नही चाहीये वो भंगार😂
Vo khud use nahi karte use. Idhar udhar ghumti rahti hai bus
British navy is waiting till their budget if they don't get enough money
The carrier might be scrapped or sold
@@tanmaynawghare9855 India should buy HMS Prince of Wales if it is sold
@anubratadas4911 if we get it for 2b -2.5b$ then yeah it's a good choice
Old video ?? Please mention it. 🙏
This timeline matches what China is pre-planning... they will have quadrupled their capacity and influence in Indian ocean region in the next 10 years. Pakistan in pocket, Maldives a remote government controlled by them... Turkey supporting both and then... attack?
Does India have this time?
तब तो 4 carrier चाहिए, 1 कंस्ट्रक्ट और commission होते होते दूसरा retire हो जाएगा। तो बचेंगे 2। चौथा बनाया जाएगा स्टैंड by mode के लिए। जब 2 carrier मिशन पर होंगे तीसरा refit और repair में होगा।
यानी 2 एयरक्राफ्ट carrier कंस्ट्रक्ट करने होंगे
Sunne me bahut accha lgta but abhi tak 2nd aircraft carrier ka CCS approval nhi aaya , Tedbf ka bhi nhi aaya aur feasibility study aur baki paper work me to hamara koi mukabla hi nhi hai bas ek whi step time pe hota hai hamare yha baki sab slomo me chalta just .
India should just buy british air craft carrier if they want to sell it, it will allow us to get some tech and require time to do proper R&D for our own 65k ton carrier rather than repeat of vikrant
We must not speculate things can change dramatically and for good , inthink modi is looking personally into this programs
Well explained 😊
The question for a conventional CATOBAR career comes with the question of intent of use are you portraying blue water capabilities
will the carrier be deployed out of the Indian Ocean do we have logistic base to support a blue water navy.
AWACS plane on board id not a must for costal petrol can be substituted by land based one
Jet need not be armed to the teeth but act as a deterrent You have flankers to support from ground bases
French Nuclear powered Aircraft Carrier PANG hai thumbnail me toh
Our procurement process is like a shit show.
नई एक्टिवा,बुकिंग ऑटो रिक्शा में बैठ कर BPL कार्ड पकड़े फ्री राशन आने वाले लोगो को देख कर विचार आता है कि सरकार अगर इन जैसे लोगो का छटनी करे तो इतना पैसा निकल आएगा कि विक्रांत,विशाल क्या भारत रूजवेल्ट क्लास कैरियर भी बना ले
😅Waah Mitr
Sahi bola Bhai ne.
You only say that because you don't know the ground reality of india, do you have any idea how many poor people are still living in this country
@@legendslog3911 tumne uska reply pda Bhai?
Sabsa Jada BPL card unka pass ha junko uski jarurat nhi ha aur bo rashan bi Lata ha aur bacch detta ha
We should focus on nuclear power aircraft carrier
I want the navy to buy 100,000 tons of super carriers ❤
Saara Arab ka oil unko chalne per nikal jayega
What is the status of HMS prince of whales it should be for sale
Iac 2 se rafale operate ho jayega usme lift badi hogi
And iac 1 se tdbef ho jayega jisme lift issue hai
Need to build IAC - 4 also.
And am still waiting for some government officials TO WORK FAST BRUH
Can we make little more bigger than Vikrant
why dont you consider Andman nikobar and INS Jatau (Lakshy dweep) for TEDBF squadron, They will also be utilized for fighter operation..
There will be a naval base in the future.
Bro lagta hai old video repeat kar diya 😢
We must have at least 4-5 carriers in future so as to counter China 🇨🇳. 3rd 65000 tonner Mega Aircraft Carrier is necessary for force multiplier for Indian Navy Battle carrier strike group to effectively counter PLA Navy.
Iac2 aur iac3 project parallel mai nahi bana sakte hai kya?
Funding issue.
Bana sakte hai
@@divyanshrai7182if Navy orders IAC-2 by 2025-26 and IAC-3 by 2028-29, then it is possible to get IAC-3 before 2040
India needs 4 conventional and 2 nuclear powered IACs. 4 to secure two shores, 1 nuclear powered to participate in multilateral maritime exercises across the world, and another 1 conventional/nuclear powered for repair and routine maintenance.
Just buy the UK one and modify it with catapult or emals..
Indian Navy ko toh 5 saal ka samay lagegi IAC 3 par study karne keliye ... Lekin Bhai ne ek hi video mein study ke saath saath analysis aur possible outcomes bhi bol diya ! 👍👍👍
Do we even have emals ?
And even if we get crusial tech related to advanced carriers somehow... Shouldn't we consider prioritising nuclear attack sub technology for a change ? Especially since we prioritise credible defense detrrent more than power projection... And attack subs is our weak point ?
Along with a puny plus older fleet of big vessels like destroyers and frigates ?
This indigenous 65000 ton carrier would easily be 15 to 20 years away, if royal navy is willing to sell its one of its 60000+ ton carier prince of wales/queen Elizabeth indian navy should also give a serious consideration for outright purchace if it comes at a reasonable price as it would save lot of time.
Ya but why buy if we can design our own
We need it.
Jai hind🇮🇳
Sir plz can you explain why the Airborne battalions of PARA are converted into special forces 🙏🙏
Indian navy needs more submarines, not AC. At least for now
bruh reduce the volume of your intro it always blasts my ears..... and then ur soft pleasant voice comes, i would suggest a decrease of atleast 60%
Deficiency in aircrafts , submarines , guns , ships , can cause us a HUGE trouble
Navy should press on and get a 100k one.
In the 2040s
Economy cannot support such heavy defense expenditure.
This year will see an economic crash in many countries, especially over-leveraged ones.
If there is arm conflict on border then only government will allocate fund's.
सरकार आसानी से पैसे ही नहीं देगी 🤣🤣
De degi but 1-2 saal late se degi 😅
French Navy is planning a new aircraft carrier, it will be beneficial for India if we develope ours with them.
65000 seems more suitable for us
It should be 75000 ton bz, China is building 1 lakh ton nuclear aircraft carrier
I don't but tedbf looks more deadly than amca
It’s for air dominance in the seas(idk maybe army version can also be made)while amca is for stealth….
@@Ghost-Il-Retribution You mean Air force version right?
Tedbf looks ugly and like a trainer aircraft
Lol
Meanwhile Army and airforce sleeping
But Nimitz class is old
Things happen. Technology can fail at times. It is first crash in 23 years. I am sure we will find the root cause and fix it.
Turkey fired its first tf 6000 turbojet engine of 26kn, this engine will pav the way towards kaan's domestic engine. This engine will be used in kizilelma and anka 3. This engine will also get an afterburner which will then produce 42 kn of thrust.
AMCA :- Rafal you take the charge now .I will come after 2100
Aisa nhi ho sakta ki dino par ek sath hi kam kiya jay jab Paisa lagana hi hai or humari jarurat bhi hai
Kyu n samay bachaya jaya
old intro tune again
A good strategy by Indian Navy. Give repeat order for IAC2 which will give then enough time to develop the Nuclear power plant for the IAC3.
👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
Don't play with iac 2. Just make as iac 1.
IAC-1 is vikrant , Iac-2 will be sistership of vikrant
Iac 3 should be 80000 ton,
65000t is just balanced not improved.
Navy is not even considering catapult system. Hope it will be 80k tons.
No, CSL's building capacity is only at 70,000T
We can induct a super carrier above 80,000T in the 2040s
@@fly463it's too far away,
Economy is at lightspeed n defence is outdating.
Not much difference in 70k to 80k.
So why not 80000ton.
yaar kisi bhi development ke baare mein (either Yejas ho, ya TEDBF ho, or IAC /IAC 3 ho, timeline ko tighter hona zaroori hai. Under current political conditions (wrt China) and Tech conditions worldwide, who knows what value these things will have by the year 2045 ? sounds amusing
Turkey just approved 2 aircraft carrier 85k tone like uk aircraft carrier
We India's need addition 2 aircraft carrier
Ship will float but economy will sink. Dont know whats up with erdogan
Ma chuday turkey hum apni needs or economy dekh kar decision lenge
India should buy HMS Prince of Wales if it is sold
It won't be. AUKUS will bare operation cost
Carriers are needed by expeditionary forces to attack far away foreign countries or to keep the sea lanes open in contested areas.
India isn't going to invade any country, nor do we have global economic interests to keep the sea lanes open.
An aircraft carrier also needs several aircrafts, several accompanying destroyers, frigates, corvettes, supply ships, oilers, submarines etc which together constitute an astronomical sum of money to acquire, operate and maintain.
Indian military needs to ask what role aircraft carrier bound fighters are going to perform that land based fighters cannot do?
Instead of aircraft carriers, India needs a large fleet of heavy bombers which can carry potent anti ship missiles. India needs to acquire at least 10 B1 or Tu22 type bombers which will cost a fraction of carrier battlegroup but pack far higher punch. 40 such long range heavy bombers will make 8 to 9 Chinese supercarriers extremely vulnerable from South China sea to the Persian Gulf.
These bombers can also be used to strike the eastern coastal China with conventional weapons which currently is outside the range of our conventional weapons.
Apart from long range heavy bombers India needs 10 to 20 cruise missiles carrying SSGN/SSBN and another 10 nuclear attack submarines.
If we go for 3rd aircraft carrier we will have to compromise on nuclear submarines and heavy bombers which are the need of the hour.
Even Ashley Tellis has said you don't need aircraft carriers to project power from Persian gulf to Malacca straits. And as per him if you have to acquire aircraft carriers then it has to be in the 100,000 tons supercarrier category.
Sometimes I wonder what our previous govt was doing in early 2000s when they were in power...
2004-14 ~ lost decade.
Itna hopeless kyu horahe ho 2032 me 10 trillion dollar ki economy hogi humari tab tak humara defence complex bhi fully functional hojayega.
Speed up rahega process
Usa 45000 thousand to 55000 thausand ton wale helicopter carrier use karta uspe f35 bhi ise fie bhi usa use helicopter carrier bolta hai to ye sahi hai is hisab se india ke aircraft carrier dekhar lagta hai usa 22 aircraft carrier use larta hai
2038-40 tak 😂😂 tab tak china ke 6 super carriers ho jayenge 😢
We need total 5 and at any time 2 will be in dock and after few years Vikramaditya will retire .. our decision making is so slow and we are sleeping .. our new CDS is not as competent like the ex Bipin Rawat .. all acquisitions are delayed .. even IAF and Indian Army are equally responsible for their own actions .. many important projects are delayed because of faulty requirements and RFQs/ RFIs are so complex that OEM find difficult to meet the expectations.. with Made in India we are not finding strong OEM to invest in India .. simple rifle’s manufacturing taking hell lots delays .. acquisition of minesweepers not seen .. 114 fighters under MRfA ver 2.0 seems to be delayed intentionally by MOD.. we are world 3rd largest economy and our defence acquisitions budget not growing exponentially after taking care of inflation adjustment… the current Govt performance is much better than previous regime but still long way to go .. we don’t know when we will be hammered by two hostile countries ..
Kucho samajh mai nahi aaya