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• The Woman King EXPOSED...
The movie The Woman King has been the subject of all sorts of controversy in the last few weeks. On this video I'll tell you about what's going on and most importantly I'll give you a historical channel's perspective on the historicity of this movie.
"The Woman King" is a historical action drama film released in 2022, directed by Gina Prince-Bythewood and starring Viola Davis in the lead role. The movie is set in the West African kingdom of Dahomey during the 19th century and focuses on the Agojie, an all-female warrior unit that protected the kingdom.
The film centers on General Nanisca, played by Viola Davis, who leads the Agojie warriors. As she trains a new generation of recruits, Nanisca prepares them to fight against an enemy that threatens their way of life.
"The Woman King" received critical acclaim for its powerful performances, particularly Davis's portrayal of Nanisca, as well as its compelling action sequences and production design. The movie also sparked discussions about historical accuracy and the incorrect portrayal of complex historical events.
Alongside Viola Davis, the cast includes Thuso Mbedu, Lashana Lynch, and John Boyega, who plays King Ghezo of Dahomey. The film's production team said that they made efforts to authentically represent the culture and setting of 19th-century Dahomey, now part of modern-day Benin but they clearly completely failed at that.
"The Woman King" takes massive creative liberties with historical events, instead of trying to bring attention to lesser-known parts of African history and the role of women warriors in that society.
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Red isn't on the sinistra? what is this?!
EDIT: Did you make it so it looks as it should from our POV? I instantly thought of the two angels on your shoulder
o7
Don’t stop throwing it out there. Truth matters! After getting yelled at at Georgetown when me and my friend was talking about the Yazidi genocide in 2014. I realize the haters did not want to hear the truth. My friend Omar lost 36 members of his family to Isis and his mom and sisters were a slaves. He was almost called a liar because they viewed it as political instead of just gaining facts from what was going on and the tragedy of the situation that’s sad.
I hate your hoodie a lot.
Overwatch is extremely fucking woke.
There are 2 genders. Mutilating your body to try to be the opposite gender you are or a made up genders is evil. Pride is a sin. Indoctrination isn't cool. Just saying.
My grandmother told me: " i don't care what they teach you in school, the Metatron is the Pasta King."
They do teach that in school for SURE
Well my grandmother told me: " i don't care what they teach you in school, the Metatron is the Metatron."
The strongest indictment of this dumb movie came from Lupita Nyongo, she outright refused to work in the movie once she figured out the real history of the Dahomey and met the descendant of one of the people enslaved by them, she could have just played along with the propaganda and appeased her Hollywood friends, but she took a principled position .. hugely respect her for that, and frankly she had nothing to gain from this position and a lot to lose, yet she still made that choice.
I saw her documentary here on UA-cam, it was eyeopening….huge respect for her, going to Africa and meeting the descendants..
I strongly recommend this documentary, you can find it on yt under *WARRIOR WOMEN* with Lupita Nyongo
She cared more about the TRUTH than her distaste for Whitey. Good on her.
She made a documentary as a result. I watched it and was deeply moved by her sadness as she discovered the truth and all the history.
I did not have an opinion on her before as I hadn't watched any of her films but after watching that documentary and then finding out why she made the documentary... It all made me respect her immensely.
She has integrity and is an authentic artist. She could have taken the money and sold out her own racial history but she didn't. I will always respect her decision to not just walk away but also to push back against the propaganda.
@@MagcargoMan And what does that have to do with anything?
@@MagcargoMan And what does that have to do with anything on this video or this comment section?
"If the world is against the truth, then I am against the world."
Athanasius
I second that.
Conversely. If the world is for titties, then I am for the world
@@metatronyt
Truth is important , however once it's understood the antagonist is mainly the oyo and not Europeans then everything has to be interpreted in that way especially in reference to Freedom.
Thank you for correcting yourself.
Integrity over identity
You should quote it correctly, it was SAINT Athanasius, and the "Truth" is capital T, meaning Christ/God. What he said is "If the world is against God, then I am against the world". Because God calls himself the Truth.
@@madcyborg1822 I've never seen your quote refrenced, but I agree nonetheless.
I’m from Sudan and I loved your historically accurate video
Are you south Sudanese? Just curious because I’m Moroccan
Sudan needs truth, just like it needs Peace. Salam to you!
A quick search informs one that "In the 1840s, Dahomey began to face decline with British pressure to abolish the slave trade, which included the British Royal Navy imposing a naval blockade against the kingdom and enforcing anti-slavery patrols near its coast.". That's right, it took the British Navy to stop Dahomey continuing the slave trade!
if i recall correctly they navy also shelled a few places there to get their point across
Just more oppression from Whitey,taking away the black people's freedom to enslave each other. Colonizerrr!!!
they didn't actually stop.
they went to selling oils and britain even bought more from them to compensate them for the loss of slavery profits.
but the dahomey found that it wasn't enough and slavery was still more profitable so returned to it like 3 years later.
the first franco-dahomey war (1890) invloved the dahomey going in to french territory to enslave africans under french protection.
which is another part of history a lot of people dont want everyone to know, the european empires rarely invaded africa, but smaller kingdoms joined their empires to gain protection ffrom the larger kingdom enslaving them every year.
Iirc in the end, weren't the Dahoemey pulverized by a French Colonial Battalion ?
The British had to to intervene to stop slavery in Nigeria in the 1950's...
you are not RAAAcist, i adore everything about searching the historical truth, cheers from Mexico
Thanks!
@@metatronyt The thumbnail looks like the Second Coming Of Jesus! It's the middle name.
I also like truths, but yet truths do nothing for mankind right now! For example, we all know America STOLED the land and Mexico land, too! Yet nothing is done about it! So knowing truth is only 1 part of the solution! Yet Metatron has said NOTHING on these FACTS and for him to say white racism is same as the 1 example he only says is THE MOORS. That is kind of scummy! I'm Ojibwe and my land was also stolen. America is destroying the world and you are all kitty about old COLONIZERS and SLAVE OWNERS history! Try watching MIDDLE NATION, LEE CAMP, POLITICAL ECONOMY REPORT with BEN NORTON.. Now they tell truths history on this side and all around the world. Plus today news.
@metatronyt It's pretty amusing how people react when you refuse to 'take sides!'
My mother and I got into over this. Wtf would an American black descendant of slaves go cheer for a movie rewriting history , to cheer for the kingdom fighting to keep the slave trade going?! We literally know we have ancestors from that area, meaning a good chance the Dahomeys were involved in their enslavement.
It also pissed me off, similar to how in the US they live to elevate the worst in the black community as heroes, they want us cheering for the worst of our history, while dummies imagine they were heroes!
Exactly! The very worst of the community, thugs and drug dealers, woman beaters, are the most popular. It's completely backwards in the US!
Gotta have the kids heroes being zeroes, best way to hold ‘em down.
But history is still history.
I am mostly celtic. Black Americans should look at the history of the celts. We were rather violent people that were headhunters and fueded with eachother constantly even after the remaining celts of the British isles converted to Christianity. We had slaves and were made into slaves. We faced multiple successful and unsuccessful genocide attempts over thousands of years. Celts have been monsters and victims. We changed a lot over years and had to face being deliberately held back and had millions starve to death as a result of racist economic abuses at the hands of the English. Knowing the history and having to learn it i had to face my feelings about the English as they currently are. I will give each of them ,as i will give to any other person, the opportunity to give their first impression and to own their actions regardless of the past. No one has to respect anyone doing the wrong thing. Going forward if i only give the English grief for past events they had no hand in i will change nothing for the better. There is also no promise that my own people are being irresponsible politically. Too many of my celtic bretheren have been on the left and its extremely disappointing seeing them go in a destructive direction.
@@RyanBrown-hp3sc I agree. Far too many Celts hate the English for no good reason, which seems to have some parallels to race relations in America... Have a good day brother!
I only (mis)heard it as "the kingdom of the homie" for a solid minute there, and now I can't unhear it either
It's been the case for me for about FORTY YEARS. I've studied SSA history since the '80s and I've suffered the existence of urban slang for about that long.
Yeah, I heard kingdom of da homie every time 😂😂 it's funny cuz it fits!
This is how I heard it every single time until I saw it printed on screen and was like "Ohhhh, that makes so much more sense".
Da Homie.
I feel ya, mah homies in da hood.
The British role in ending slavery (including the Arab slave trade that started in the 7th century) should be taught to everyone.
There is so much about history that is horribly taught in all levels of schooling.
There is little appetite for glorifying the British Empire the way Roman Empire is, despite their equally global achievements. Maybe in another 500 years….
They didn't finish paying off the debt for that until 2015. It took almost 200 years.
INSANE I DIDNT know this until my love for learning history began at 23. I’m 29 now and i have questioned every single thing that raises a tiny red flag for me. The amount of propaganda no matter how subtle is staggering here in the west especially America so the “you just hate China and Russians the propaganda they do is anti democracy”! Is hilarious to me.
That was a strategic move to hinder the French, I believe. The French don't get enough credit for their role in slavery. When you are losing the game simply flip the board.
You are consistantly problamatic to mainstream narratives. That's why I subscribe. Carry on Metatron.
@@solamande Thanks!
@@metatronyt You're welcome of course. That MAGAtron comment cracks me up! I'll be smiling about that all day. See you next video.
Not sure I'd agree with the sentiment that the things Metatron objects to are "mainstream" narratives. All of these shows and movies that Metatron usually comments on do *horribly* at the box office or streaming service they appear on (usually because they are just boring or poorly put together pieces of media, the eyerolling agenda playing a smaller role). The people who make them often are not "mainstream" producers, actors, directors, etc but instead are industry pariahs trying to gain attention to whatever their agenda is which usually is pretty blatant and why few other people in the industry support them. Like Jada Pinkett Smith is *not* well liked in the industry so I'd hardly call anything she produces "mainstream".
It kind of annoys me when people act like cancel culture and "woke" people make up some majority of the population. It's the same thing with ultra-right wing types spewing conspiracy theories. They are a vocal *minority* and we criticize both sides specifically *because* they go against the normal.
@@pacmonster066 I apologize for not thinking more deeply before commenting on YT videos. I understand the semantics of your argument and I'll try to do better in the future and be less annoying. Thank you for the time it took to correct my plebeian narrative. Have a good day.
@@pacmonster066 soooo you have never heard of Disney?
The work that the Royal Navy's west africa squadron did in curtailing the atlantic slave trade in the 19th century is both fascinating and underrepresented in any history curiculum.
In a book about east african warrior nations i read, east african muslim slave traders had been so rich, that they could hire mercenaries from Yemen.
@@brittakriep2938I believe one of the Dahomey kings towards the end of the slave trade managed to amass a fortune of about a quarter million. Don't quote me on that or the conversion. I think it was 17B at the time I learned, so probably 20B in todays money.
Im a black man and i totally agree with you
You want truth, not lies. There are many good African stories to be told, but they chose to lie.
Thank you for your support sir.
@markenetube does black mean African?
Like he said in the first video, black people aren't stupid, and that means they won't just gobble up any media based solely on it being vaguely related to black history. Hollywood seems to think as long as there's a black person in it you should be brainwashed enough by their race baiting to love it! It's ridiculous! And fucking OFFENSIVE!
Same here I am another black man and I agree with him.
Ah yes, Metatron doing a 50 min video on Metatron doing a 16 min video, can't wait for Metatron doing a 3 hour video on Metatron doing a 50 min video on Metatron doing a 16 min video in 2 years XD
Lol…die unendliche Geschichte
Responding to your own video is peak “I’m starting to run out of daily content” 🤣
I wish to watch this Infinite recursion. I hope it happens.
@@nicoleg2544 Not necessarily.
That reminds me of Josh reacting to Asmon reacting to Josh reacting to Asmon
The last people transported across the Atlantic to the USA as slaves were captured by the Agojie of Dahomey. They would gain their freedom due to US Civil War, and one of them, Cudjoe Lewis, gave his story to a journalist in the 1920s. Rather than making up stuff about Dahomey they should have told another story, and there are some great ones. The early life of Tewdros II of Ethiopia would be perfect for a movie. He started out a monk. He was a Robin Hood figure. He proved his skill as a leader and gained followers before eventually becoming Emperor. That would make an excellent movie.
I would pay to see that movie. Sounds wonderful.
Tewodros II would be interesting, but if the primary accounts written about him (e.g. by Henry Blanc) are to be believed, he wouldn’t be a very sympathetic protagonist.
The story I keep hoping they make is the story of Robert Smalls - a man born into slavery who commandeered a confederate ship during the Civil War and sailed it past blockades to deliver it to the Union. That would make a great movie.
@@scott2452Nothing a little revisionism can't cure, amirite?
@@SolProxy Haha with enough revisionism, anything is possible.
His wiki page already has been pretty whitewashed…no mention of Gondar or Islamgee etc.
The contrast is stark when you read something like the Journal of Ethiopian Studies entry titled The Violence of Tewodros
I'm offended...
... that the Pasta King was never released.
He was released
into the pasta wild!
Doubling-down is a sign of knowing what you are talking about, or being ignorant af. With Metatron: I guess the former!
Double dog down on that!
So true.
I've never understood this we need representation in the and movies because in the 90s growing up half of what I watched was all black shows like the Cosby show, family matters, the fresh prince, Martin, morsha, and movies like bad boys and Friday. I feel like it wasn't a problem until people started to make it a problem in the mid 2000s for no reason
Division.
Divide and conquer.
That's why.
In the 70’s they addressed the problem of representation. In the 80’s they began addressing how people were represented. In the 90’s we had plenty of representation but it was so overdone that the requirement for representation began with the trend of the “token” and by the early 2000’s the token became a joke so we needed to address that somehow. It’s certainly gotten out of hand now though, not for a lack of representation but how it’s morphed into now being an inaccurate representation of the statistical (and historically accurate) representation of the population. It is a massive swing of the pendulum from the 1950’s where there genuinely wasn’t representation and with any luck the pendulum will fall back to center.
Because "representation" is window dressing. At core, it's a racial Marxism, meaning it's a mental division of the world into oppressors and oppressed.
Because white people are considered eternal oppressors to these people, fairness or equality is not actually desired, it's revenge.
The reason it gets worse is because they also spend a lot of time being historical revisionists, reframing all of history along a purely oppressor/oppressed perspective.
They'll frame anything less than basically communism as oppression
@@HeatherWP Even in the '50s, there was SOME black representation. Blacks were only 13% of the US population. If there was a cast of 1-12, how accurate would it be to have a black in there (outside of context)? Should the Rat Pack have added 6 MORE whites to make things more "representational"?
The goal since the '90s seems to have been to overrepresent blacks and insert them into high-status roles. Those of us who work in real, competitive jobs see the truth.
BOTTOM LINE: Write/make stories that audiences want.
I was dating a Jamaican girl in college then who got mad at me when I suggested the Cosby Show didn't portray a realistic view of what life was like for most black American families (she herself had divorced parents and she was being raised in a Jewish neighborhood near North Miami - talk about standing out!), although I understood wanting to show a successful one. But we already saw that with the Jeffersons and Good Times.
It’s a brave man who speaks the uncomfortable truths
It shouldn’t be “uncomfortable”. Historical truth is what it is and people should realize that if it were not for our history we wouldn’t be who we are today. Good or bad.
Somehow the converse title: "The Man Queen", doesn't ring the same and implies something else...
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
When you strip the narcy crap, it's seems no different.
If it was about Freddie Mercury then they might have something
@@parrotshootist3004 Not really, A = B is not necessarily the same as B = A.
funny enough that'll be a great movie about Olga of Kiev
I love the kingdom of the homie. Its my favourite
Me? From the hood? What hood? Its the kingdom of the homie!
Oh, I'm glad it's not just me that thinks that is so funny.
That English alters pronunciation of foreign words so they are not recognizable any more is among my least favorite things about English.
@@matj12 thats most languages tho. If i listen how a japanese person would pronounce my name, im getting an aneurysm 😂
@@Mr.Marbles That doesn't surprise me. I dislike most languages. From a different perspective, I have unrealistic expectations about languages.
But my original point is relevant because I hear “the homie kingdom” and struggle to figure out what I should ask a search engine to get results relevant to what Metatron is talking about. BTW, it turns out that asking “the homie kingdom” returns results about Dahomey.
I had a whole baby since this video. Funnily enough I used to watch you before this video but somehow ended up unsubscribed (I did not unsubscribe myself) and I never could find your channel again UNTIL THIS VIDEO!!! And now I have son who is 8 months old since finding your channel again. A lot can change in 2 years.
Congratulations! Enjoy your little lad. Time flies swiftly. Mine is nearly 15 and it feels like yesterday he was 2. 🌸🌱🌳
You have a baby and found metatron again? You are living the dream life😅 Wish you and your kid health and prosperity🥰
If you are quoting yourself from the past I will do the same :D
"Boyo, if they wanted to make a movie about a woman king they could have just dig in polish kings list. Like... We had litteraly a woman king named Jadwiga from hungarian dynasty. And yes, she was a king not a queen, mostly because in this times in Kingdom of Poland wasnt something like that, atleast as a main country leader."
Yeah, my english improved too for this 2 years (or I hope it did)
Big love spaghetti knighty-samurai
Jadwiga never gets any mention save once in a Civilization game. Quite sad since she was a very interesting character to read about.
I really want a movie or miniserie about Jadwiga.
Also we can include Queen Tamar from Georgia on the list.
Seriously there is plenty of female historical rulers that have their pro and cons that deserve more attention.
But with the producers we have this days better don't give them any...idea.
Did you see what they did to the Witcher?
I bless every book left untouched in the current fad to destroy fantasy or historical IP‘s
King Jadwiga. King.
That's not quite true, while she was a coronated as a king she wasn't referred to as a "king" nor did she do it herself either. It was "Regina" in documents, stamps etc. So calling her queen or królowa is in fact correct.
Face it they don’t want to tell African stories. They want to tell African looking stories that follow the narrative they want to push.
You mean stories that don't make their narrative to look bad. LOL!
Even if they did they’d be boycotted I’m sure
@@admirekashiri9879 Ya, they would find some reason to boycott it.
@@shawn6860 So I’m done hoping Hollywood makes our stories now. I believe we Africans should do them ourselves.
I enjoy watching African films - watch them at a friend's house, she has a paid subscription to one of the several African UA-cam TV channels - but I can honestly say that I don't think they would appeal to many people in the US [for a start they'd complain they can't understand them, even though the majority are in English, I'm used to hearing Africans talk and don't have an issue but I know many do] because the subject matter probably wouldn't interest them. A favourite for example is about a woman using traditional witchcraft to get a good husband, a good job, lots of money etc and how eventually it all goes wrong and backfires on her, I like it and the acting/storyline are brilliant but I'm honestly not sure many in the US would enjoy watching it, far too different and not sure they'd understand the undercurrents.
But you're right, they DON'T tell the narrative that Hollywood/African-Americans want to push and I honestly don't think they'd like the narrative they do push. Like the channel on UA-cam where an African American goes home to the motherland and is welcomed but she is welcomed as a USAMERICAN and not as a Ghanaian and she spends all her time complaining that they see her as and treat her as an American when she sees herself as an African who has ''come home''. She expected to be treated like the prodigal daughter, she wasn't and she was offended by the fact that they don't see her as Ghanaian who was forcibly taken by white slavers [she can't even admit her ancestors were captured and sold by other Africans, she blames everything on the nasty white people] but as an American who has decided to come and live in Ghana. She seems to have expected to have been treated like a returning hero and have everything paid for because she was ''lost and now she is found'' when they see her as being a rich American woman who has decided to move to Africa and live there.
9:58 that’s a perfect way of putting it. I don’t mind historical inaccuracy as much if the narrative acknowledges the fact that it’s fiction and doesn’t try to pretend otherwise. It’s when they act like it’s purely historical and factual when I take issue with the inaccuracies.
a rapid review of the Dahomey Customs utterly demolished this movie's pretense of accuracy.
7:27 Not just race swapping but gender swapping as well. Most of us know why Hollywood chose to do a movie about the Woman "King" and not a movie about the Songhai Empire or the Benin Kingdom. 8:50 "The truth" didn't that movie completely gloss over the fact the Dahomey Kingdom was one of worst prolific slave traders on the African continent.
BINGO!!!! The erasure of masculinity
The title Woman King is actually a translation of what the Fon called a female ruler called Princess Hangbe, it doesn’t make sense in English I understand but, they did not have queens, she ruled as king after her twin brother king Akaba died. The character in the film isn’t her though so I don’t know why they used that title. Hangbe lived a century prior and ruled briefly.
And even if they did it on those other empires I guarantee there would have been controversy still.
@@admirekashiri9879the title is the least of this films issues.
It makes sense that we misinterpreted their word for ruler as "king," but if Fon translates to "Woman King," then isn't our word for that, "Queen"
We also use it to mean "The King's Wife," but she's still the highest Lady in the land, so if she inherits the throne, we use the other definition of Queen, "A woman king." Her husband can never be King, because he was born her subject.
You are dismantling the mainstream Hollywood understanding of history. God bless you and all you do.
A movie dedicated to the British Crusade on Slavery would be dope, plus i feel like Britian could use something to get behind other than each other in a line.
Yeah, more colonial propaganda. You got plenty of those movies glorifying white invaders, buddy.
Americans really need to use the word “queue” more. You can remove 80% of the letters and it’s pronounced the same.
You mean like the 2006 film Amazing Grace?
@@randomperson6433 Usually do when writing Character dialogue but eh, didn't come to me.
I watched on History Hit a multi part set of videos about the political struggle in Britain that lead to abolishing slavery. Jamaican Sugar Barons who wanted to keep their “economy” verses the movement in Britain to end slavery.
It was a great series.
This remembered me Hatshepsut: she was a real woman Pharaoh: she even used a fake beard to make it more acceptable.
That's because it is one of the symbols of pharaohs. IIRC anyway. I'm tired.
A funny realization I just had... This isn't just "right-wing, all white people are good" vs "left-wing, all black people are good" bullshit. It's much worse, and much more insidious.
Triangular trade was only possible because the various African kingdoms/nations/tribes call them what you want... Adopted a Roman approach to slavery: they all hated everybody *else* equally.
A white slaver could go to any African kingdom and buy some slaves; those slaves would come from a different part of Africa, and would therefore not be part of the in-group of that particular kingdom.
And that's what they are trying to hide: the in-group vs out-group mentality that gave rise to the worst of slavery (i.e., sugar cane plantations), a mentality that is very much prevalent in modern US politics.
You *must* love your candidate, and hate the opposing party's candidate, because your candidate is yours, and the opposition's is theirs.
It's chariot races, factio albata vs factio prasina vs factio russata vs factio veneta, except there's only two of them.
That's what Hollywood is pushing: not left-leaning sentiment but "us versus them" sentiment. Our in-group is righteous, and the other is the enemy, and must be destroyed.
Push that sentiment hard enough, and you'll rationalize slavery again.
No joke.
@@scloftin8861 Yeah but that also means that, if you are a Republican, you should reach out to Democrats, and if you are a Democrat, you should reach out to Republicans. That's the only way to prevent radicalization and extremism. Admittedly, the right is resorting to fear tactics more than the left, but that only means that it's even more important to reach out to your opponents if you are on the right. Explain your point of view and get the other party's.
Bipartisanship used to be a staple of US governance, These days it's just hate hate hate all the way through.
@o0alessandro0o Really? "Trump is the next Hitler" is not a perfect example of extreme fear mongering? Both Walz & Harris just did campaign stops where they told the audience Trump is going to use the military against journalists.
@@o0alessandro0o Yeah, as someone who votes Republican, I can agree that there is some right-wing fearmongering, and I've seen plenty on the left. One thing I hate about this culture war is the fact that it has contributed to this.... I'm going to say it, anti-American mentality. You've got both sides calling each other the evilest things on planet Earth while trying to downplay or flat out deny their own internal problems. It's why we've got lots of talking about a future civil war, because discussion has been so thoroughly poisoned by the Media. And here's the shocking truth about the Media, it consists of both the left and the right.
So sure, you have all those left-wing groups calling everyone right of them racists, transphobic, or fascies. Then you've got groups like EndymonTV, Critical Drinker, Arch, and many many other right wing youtubers who are starting to gradually push more.... problematic ideas. Heck, Tucker Carlson and Caedance Owens are big honking red flags that there is something rotten in Denmark given what ideas they espouse and who they allow to voice their opinions unchallenged.
@@o0alessandro0o not any African kingdom some forbid the practice of slavery.
About the costumes, that's always the same trend. Everything "past" or "primitive" should be dress up in dull colors... Despite a lot of these cultures actually putting colors "everywhere", sometimes with much more assiduity than present day cultures.
African cultures are ALL about color. When (then princess) QE II visited Africa in 47 she sat beside Chief Oba Adenji-Adele II in Lagos. Look up the pictures as his wardrobe is absolutely stunning in its palate.
It helps to make it seem 'old'. And, often, since no colour is with us today, we have this sense that 'the old world was dull' (impacted also by paintless Greek statues and black and white movies). Bright Chinese dress today just seems 'modern' even if it was actually truthful to 1710 or whatever you want. I'd aim for realism without confusing the viewer, as giving this sense is vital. Objective history as fact in itself means nothing. Nobody wants that in their fantasy movie. Nobody cares. It's not the important point, and would deeply confuse many, and conflict with how we feel about fantasy and 'oldness' as such. Then, there's a question of style and themes, etc. For one, marble paintless statues have a certain quality to them. Painting them now would make them seem cheap and unrefined, despite the fact we know most statues of the Greek world were actually painted/dyed (and also their buildings)! It's too late to start now, and has no real benefit. The only benefit is to understand that colour is not a modern invention, and we're no smarter or wiser than the Greeks. Humans have not changed much. This is vital to know, and should be throughout education and culture, not just movies. Of course, good fantasy movies do that already -- they teach you wisdom of the past, typically through a fictionalised and magical (dramatic, meta-narrative) lens, as opposed to 'real people'. And this applies to history-driven movies, other than the strictest. It's why Jackson's The Lord of the Rings 'feels real' even though not only are the dress wrong, but the people didn't even exist at all! Sometimes, it was fairly true to what you 'might have found', but other times, it's clearly 'wrong' and is better for it.
The images Metatron shared aren’t actually accurate. These were black people in France used represent the Agoji in some exhibition, many of them are from places like Sierra Leone historian Jeffrey P. Green made note on how inauthentic these images were.
The people in the image were actually not even from the Fon ethnic group. The film did actually get the costumes (most of them at least) accurate if you look at actual historical illustration of the Agoji and other Fon warriors.
The Metatron Symbol in neon lights would be awesome
The Woman King bombed. It has a 99% score on rotten tomatoes because rotten tomatoes often censored negative reviews of controversial movies, if the negative reviews don’t fit the mainstream media narrative.
They take liberties to a whole NEW level, when they say "Loosely based on...etc etc" Loosely based on what?? A dream they had ????
"DOUBLE DOWN! TRIPLE DOWN! OVER DOWN!"
oh, halo. Took me a second there.
Touch down? lol
Take the sh*t down.
We want the truth ❤😊
The truth is not political, the use or misuse of the truth is political. Want to watch a historically set film about strong black women, get a copy of Hidden Figures, a film with a story not propaganda.
Dahomey also practiced human sacrifice at a huge scale.
Ok..to this day..I still wonder..why not just say The Queen?
Maybe they forgot that there is a word for female rulers. 🙄
That aside, a movie called just the queen wouldnt be very descriptive unless maybe its specifically about the former british queen, but i guess they also couldnt come up with any other title. Couldve picked the name of the queen it focuses on but since she isnt that well known people probably wouldnt have paid much attention to the movie
because the whole movement is targeted to the erasure of womanhood.
historically in the middle ages king=ruler, queen=consort
many historical queens who held power called themselvs king (like Jadwiga of Poland)
@@fedeonio555 interesting
@@fedeonio555 Somebody above said this is false. She did not use the term 'king' in reality. Secondly, lots of ruling queens of Europe exist and were called 'queen', as of Russia, Spain, and England. Finally: studies find that European queens were about 30% more deadly than kings in terms of invasions and overall brutality. So, already, 'queens' are not so peaceful, after all.
Note: A title such as 'The Ruler Consort' would be interesting, or 'Killer Queen' (joking, of course). Another might be 'The Crowned Consort' or 'The Great Queen'. The viewer is not stupid enough to get a sense of what this might indicate, if they were doing anything normative. They just wanted to use the word 'woman' and make it about a 'black story' for political and anti-male, anti-Western purposes. This is impossible to deny.
To paraphrase that the famous French Revolution satire "After having criticized everyone on UA-cam, Metatron criticizes himself".
Your standpoint used to be the norm. Because it's the only one that makes sense and people used to have common sense.
Keep up the good work, we got your back!
As a moderate man myself I feel like both extremes just want us to pick their side and go down with the ship. I just don't even like talking about much anymore since everything turns political and why do I need that extra stress when I argue with my own self enough. Thanks for doing things like this, people just don't stand firm that often anymore
It is interesting isn't it. Both sides are on a proverbial sinking ship, and yet neither side wants to do anything about it aside from pinning the blame on each other.
If I was a wealthy Hollywood type, and I REALLY, TRULY wanted more black people in film, I would take a bunch of that wealth I have and promote movie making in Africa. The movies that would come from that would be PURELY AUTHENTIC.
Or try to find ACTUAL black history to make a movie about, because it’s not like there are NO notable figures in African history to make movies about
Mansa Musa (arguably the most well known figure of African history outside of Egypt). Queen Amanirenas of Kush who led her people against the Romans and won. Sundiata Keita, Founder of the Mali Empire later ruled by Musa, and the man who wrote the first charter of Human Rights for his citizens. Queen Amina. Ezana of Aksum. Those are just five names garnered from a 1 minute google search.
Wakaliwood with a million dollar budget hahaha we cooked
@@anonthehousemouse see what I mean? It’s not like there aren’t African historical figures that you could make a movie out of!
Exactly what needs to happen.
Hail, Pasta King!
He cannot have that title, he has not been crowned by the High Priest of the Pastafarians while wearing the proper ceremoonial robes and observing the appropriate rituals!
Pasta King Metachud Woketron I
If these enemies of reason really had a point, they wouldn't need to make it with relentless censorship and harassment of other viewpoints.
Pasta King sounds like a restaurant
I like the King of Linguine
The blade of freedom.
She meant her freedom to own slaves.
It's almost insulting hearing that apparently from a Dahomey.
I'm only British. I imagine some watching had a little bit of sick hit the back of their throat with that one.
0:15 My dude is like: I'm colorful too don't cancel me!😂
Italians are Latins(Latinos) even if they’re not Latin American
@@tecumsehcristero I got alot of Latin dna So are you telling me I’m not fully white ? Because I look like the average white dude.
Changing the review ratings is crazy
In a world where Cleopatra was black, the Dahomey can be anti slavery... trust me, my grandmother told me that so it must true! 😅
@@sickk0073 they were anti slavery for their own people not for all black Africans. This is what people are failing to realise.
I grew up in post colonial Africa - and for that matter have seen the "great" towers of Zimbabwe (er, nope, nothing great but I suppose it is the best they can point to). The US/Hollywood vision of what Africa, and African history consists of, is totally ignorant at best and more commonly just laughable. Your first video was totally on point, and still is.
@@HankD13 best thing who can point to?
What would have been forbidden in these times would be showing the Europeans coming and putting an end to the slavery and the "Woman king" shown having to fold to the technological and statescraft advantage of the Europeans, begrudgingly .
Lol, pretending the invaders did it for any reason beyond control. The continued colonialism they carried out throughout the world long after shows how "heroic" they truly were.
@@MagcargoMan Yes, it could show the leaders of African tribes being forced to become protectorates of the Europeans by force after not being able to go against the Europeans. The European empires were competing with each other to claim as much land as fast as possible. The African tribes really didn't have any say as they lacked unity by having stayed in the tribal stage and not achieved any cultural unification like the different tribes of Europe. The divide and conquer works great when you hate your next door neighbor more than the conquerors. The conquering and enslaving that the Africans themselves had done for hundreds of years before that really made good relations or unity impossible.
@@ballenboy That's a lot of meaningless words in this wall of text trying to justify your colonial jerkfest of a movie idea. Glad it will never happen.
@@MagcargoMan Do you just have no ability to accept good events unless it's people you agree with? Just because they did it for control of a region doesn't change the fact that they did it. Many people in history have done good things out of self-interest rather than altruism. Doesn't change the fact that the things are good. It just changes the goodness of the people doing it.
You will never find a culture or civilization in human history who did everything right. You will also be hard-pressed to find a culture or civilization who did everything wrong. Acknowledging both good and bad doesn't make anyone a worshipper of a civilization. It's what makes the story historical.
@@MagcargoMan White men ended slavery. Cry harder.
If major studios are too blind to see the potential in "The Pasta King," we need to crowd fund it, make it happen, people!
Ramen!
@@oz_jones 😂😂😂😂
While on a similar topic, a video for Sundiata Keita (the founder of the Malian empire) would be cool, and also a flex on the ignorant.
The most aggravating thing about these movies, where they glorify a woman in power who was actually a terrible person, or do a race-swap of an established person whose history is generally understood, or play any of these other tricks to increase "representation" is that they're lazy little ignoramuses. You, and others, have pointed out that there have been some very impressive "minority" (and I put that in quotes because blacks are not a minority in Africa) monarchs in African history. Shaka Zulu is one of the most well-known, but there have been others that have been gloriously wealthy, exceptional statesmen, or had the chutzpah to attack Rome and then send a letter to the emperor himself written in Roman Latin laying out _her_ position. Where are the movies glorifying these men and women, who actually existed and were actually a big deal? Nowhere, because the people who make movies and documentaries are lazy race-baiting fakes that have no intention of giving underrepresented people actual legitimate real-life historical figures to take pride in.
Well said 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
Shaka zulu? You mean the mass murdering psychopath?
@@GeromeSmith-me9im Yes. I think I also misspelled his name.
@@serafine666 Curious. What is interesting about him?
@@GeromeSmith-me9im Mainly, his larger scale of borrowing elements from predecessors and tribes around him and combining the borrowed pieces into something very successful. A civilizational example of this method is Rome, who invented relatively little themselves but took everything they absorbed and used it to maximum effect. So it was with Shaka Zulu: high mobility, a cow-hide shield, and the ikwha stabbling spear were not the creations of his genius but borrowed things he used to make a fast-moving infantry force orientated towards the classic tactic of "holding them by the nose and kicking them in the ass" to quote the movie "Patton." This method proved highly effective after his assassination by rivals against European armies that were not as quick-moving and were still using muzzle-loading firearms.
Am I the only one finding the fact the place was called da homey utterly hilarious?
"Da homie". 😂😂😂
Dang its been 2 years?
I watch his content for about a year and you can really hear through his sarcasm that he is slowly getting tired of being called racist
I think a lot of people are tbf. It's ridiculous how that term gets thrown around now.
It gets thrown at me as a black man. I am told by other black people that I am a racist because get this I told the 17 year old cousin in their group that He can't enter a 21 year old and up bar.
@@nicholasroach880 Stop being such an uncle. /s
Dude I'm a right person and truth is truth, history is history, The good the bad and the ugly.
Metatron, how about a video about Mansa Musa! His pilgrimage from the kingdom of Mali on the way to Mecca. I’d love to see that come to life!
Metatron doesn't like to cover Africa unless it's pandering to right-wingers and debunking some niche Afrocentrist meme that no significant quantity of people actually believe, aside from his token video about Amanirenas, which was the first, but it took about fifty videos pandering to people who love to post "WE WUZ" in the comments to get there.
The man's about to drop the value of gold for a decade by spending too much! 😂
The pasta king cannot be made anymore, the king pastaway....
UK government Hansard Documents make it clear that the Dahomey did thousands of human sacrifices.
So did the ancient celts is central and northern europe
“In times of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act”.
The trailer definitely gives the impression that Europeans are the big bad guys of the movie. This was probably done because their opening week would have gotten a lot fewer viewers if they came out and said that the bad guys were another African tribe.
@@paintingrambling645 why would it have? It would have been more interesting and helped reduce the controversy
1:50 - 2:02, 29:19 -29:43
The images aren’t actual images of the Agoji Metatron. These were black people in France used to represent the Agoji in some exhibition, many of them are from places like Sierra Leone historian Jeffrey P. Green made note on how inauthentic these images were.
The people in the image were actually not even from the Fon ethnic group. The film did actually get the costumes (most of them at least) accurate if you look at actual historical illustration of the Agoji and other Fon warriors.
7:55 The title Woman King is actually a translation of what the Fon called a female ruler called Princess Hangbe, it doesn’t make sense in English I understand but, they did not have queens, she ruled as king after her twin brother king Akaba died. The character in the film isn’t her though so I don’t know why they used that title. Hangbe lived a century prior and ruled briefly.
17:26 - 18:41 This is where some people get lost. The film is about the Dahomey Oyo war of 1823, Dahomey were forced into being a tributary to the bigger Oyo empire. Their own people were taken by the Oyo to be sold into slavery. Dahomey was Anti-slavery when it came to the majority of their population (not all their people of course). Now when when it came to other non-Fon people they didn’t care and were indeed brutal in that department. Unfortunately I believe that marketing and lack of understanding of the historical context and situation is what doomed this film. Because it appears to you and most people they’re talking about ending slavery as a whole when the conflict was about getting out of Oyo domination and ending the tributary status.
25:00 27:40 I’m happy you addressed this I mentioned this in the last video the Oyo Dahomey War is the focus here but, of course they didn’t do this accurately. Like I said their marketing department is partly the issue they made it appear as though the conflict was the Frano Dahomey war.
29:40 Yes King Ghezo was a usurper and a very brutal king! He justified slavery in his statement so they did not represent him correctly. He same with the overall Dahomey Oyo War. As explained Dahomey hated being humiliated and enslaved by its more powerful rivals but, they didn’t care about people who weren’t Fon.
In all honesty Hollywood starting African historical fiction with Dahomey was a bad idea! I knew there was going to be controversy and likely misunderstanding of the complex history and dynamics which would lead to boycotts. In all honesty I have little faith that any African historical fiction film would be successful there will be controversy always surrounding certain historical figures and their dark deeds as well as the overall issue of slavery. I think such projects should just be left to African studios.
Well said once again
@@camilofonseca2073 Thank you! Just needed to be clarified.
Still waiting for the Man Queen sequel
Is it about Freddie Mercury?
Killed in a joust when unhorsed by a lance of linguini sghetti.
baby oil spent in making this movie was half the budget
Britain was against slavery throughout most of the 1800s. The British government did not support slavery. The Royal Navy and US Navy played a major role in ending the slave trade by capturing slave ships and attacking slave bases. The US Navy was created to fight slavery and piracy in Africa from 1820. Britain had no need for slaves. The British were happy to pay workers. This included the recruitment of many Indians for work in the Empire. Britain could also employ African workers at very low cost. Resulting in an Indian diaspora around the world. Julius Caesar himself was captured by pirate slavers over 2000 years ago. Africa has a long history of slavery. The US Navy and Marines attacked the city of Tripoli to free slaves. Many people fail to understand how the British Empire was run. Which intended to use methods other than military force. With very effective leadership. Britain did not have a huge army. And often hired soldiers from other nations to help run the Empire. .
It is all about money. They would pay a salary smaller then the money spent to suport a slave. Kids were working in the factories just because of how little they paid the workers. Afer making so much money selling slaves Britain decided to end slavery because slaves can't buy industrial products. It is the same case of the civil war in USA.
I like " Black Conservative Perspective," too, and I watch his channel every day
Greg is really smart, funny and insightful with his commentary.
I would strongly encourage everyone to check out his stuff!!
To say nothing of being 57 yrs old actress and being in active combat😂 Yes, she was in great shape, but seriously...
That‘s what video editors are paid the big bucks for
It's called acting. You think they should do everything shown in the movie?
@damirregoc8111
Of course not. No matter how brilliant the actor, should a 57 yr old, who is clearly older than the rest of the cast be leading the charge?
I'd say yes, to her training the army and strategy, tactics, and politics. Her character was a General, not a door kicker.
I agree with historical characters being portrayed as their historical ethnicity for truthful historical reasons, obviously. One way I would maybe bend the rule is when it comes to Shakespeare, I saw a picture in the video of Sophie Okonedo as Margaret of Anjou in The Hollow Crown, which was BBC adaptions of Shakespeare plays. (Very good btw, with amazing casts). I'm from the UK, and when a lot of actors start out, it's usually in Shakespeare productions up and down the country. So, to possibly deny actors and actresses to take part in Shakespeare productions on the stage or in TV/Movie adaptions due to historical accuracy, I think, would be a mistake.
It's not like Shakespeare was necessarily "historically accurate" because he was out to tell a good story, not to educate people. So cast who you want as long as they're good actors. (OK, it would be totally interesting to cast Othello all POC, with Othello perhaps Arab rather than black as the moor.
That movie was about as historically accurate as The Twelve Tasks of Asterix.
You mean that Asterix and Obelix weren't real???
@@oklaftrahlegne7298 it had a lot of accuracies actually the clothing, weapons and architecture for example, it’s just the story was too oversimplified and marketing didn’t understand their assignment.
@@admirekashiri9879 The story wasn't simplified, it was completely made up and directly opposite to historic facts. Asterix on the other hand is completely made up and at least has the decency to ask for permit A38.
@@oklaftrahlegne7298 No the war between Dahomey and Oyo took place. When I say oversimplified I mean they didn’t show the brutality of the events of the war. What many fail to understand is Dahomey was indeed fighting for freedom, its own freedom. Dahomey was a tributary state forced to pay tribute in the form of slaves to Oyo. In 1823 they were able to beat Oyo and were “free” they were able to thus continue the slave trade without giving their own people to the bigger more powerful rival. If they showed this history and the brutality in R rated form I think there would have been less controversy over people assuming the film was about Dahomey ending slavery for everyone.
@@admirekashiri9879 I mean, yeah if they properly went with that part of the story instead of making shit up it could actually have been a decent movie.
Yes, The British indeed ended slavery as an official institution in the 19th century.
What a Meta of having Metatron react on old Metatron videos.
And maybe a year from now we will see his reaction to his reaction to himself.
I completely agree with your stance on not casting black actors for historically white figures. It belittles both the whites who are having their history debased, but also the blacks who, like you said, are being told that their *actual* history doesn't really matter. That is a very fair take, and in my opinion, the correct one. I don't want my ancestors portrayed by non-whites, and i'm sure that blacks understand that casting blacks in white roles is disingenuous at best and destructive at worst.
Perkele from Finland! Make a video about us sometime. First Swedish crusade to Finland, or what English language calls 'Cudgel war'. Other cool stuff between as well.
Literally not a crusade, though.
I read a book called The Viceroy of Ouidah by B.Chatwin about 40 years ago (great book). It fictionalised the true story of a (white) Brazilian who became an agent in the slave trade for the King of Dahomey.
The story intrigued me.
It was a long time ago. I did some research and read Chatwin's (Granta) account of his travels while writing the book.
As far as I recollect, these female warriors were very good at abusing slaves and unarmed peasants - metallurgy was for the nobility in those days. 100 sword and spear wielding women descending upon a farming hamlet would be able to do great slaughter.
However, when it came to fighting the Europeans they squealed and ran away and less than a dozen were actually killed.
The men fought harder for their king but they too were no match for the 'modern' firearms of the French (and British who actually fought a 'punitive' campaign against Dahomey also).
It sounds great till reality kicks in. Who hasnt seen the world cup winning female footballers being thrashed by schoolboys?
Who hasnt noticed the trans women beating up everyone in every womens sport that requires strength and stamina?
So it was also for these very fierce women warriors. Im sure their feelings and empowerment were affirmed... till the bullets started flying.
This might be more related to the Rings of Power adaptation, but there was an interesting case recently with the Netflix adaptation of Three Body Problems though that viewers who would go on about correct racial representation had no issues with the complete dilution of the Chinese cast of characters and had hilarious justifications for them. The problem is that those novels had very specific reasons for the cultural backgrounds of each characters, based on history and geopolitical realities. This even accounted for the in-game historical figures. It really blew my mind how the original work was disrespected to justify the white-washing of the cast and story.
There are not many good Chinese actors who knowns how to speak english. That is the reason.
All female warrior team enters the men’s league and loses first game 19-0.
Wait…that was modern day futbol, and they were *men.
9:41 You know I wouldn't mind a movie about Shaka Zulu played by Ryan Renolds but he was playing the character just like Deadpool. That would be hilarious.
another 2 years later: I TRIPLE DOWN! where Metatron reacts to this video
22:17 people very conveniently that the British and French were among the earliest to abolish Slavery in their Kingdom and all their colonies, which resulted over half of the African coastline being closed to slave traders. they even used their naval force to deter slave traders.
Only for their own benefits. They still engaged in colonialism and other atrocities long after. You should look into France's current day Neo-Colonialism with it's former colonies in Africa, and its attempts to keep New Caledonia under its control.
only back in Europe, not in the colonies. Many free men from the colonies were considered slaves by status and law until they entered the country despite still being looked down as former slaves or descendents of slave. A good example of this is Thomas-Alexandre Dumas, the father of Alexandre Dumas. He was born in the colony of Haiti and considered a slave by status because his mother was a slave and a concubine. And his father sold her and her daughters from a previous man before taking Thomas-Alexandre Dumas to France were he lost the slave status only because of his father title and because slavery was forbidden inside Europe.
@@MagcargoManNew Caledonian is majority European. If France leaves and a democratic govt ensues there will be little change. Unless an undemocratic constitution is instituted.
@@camilofonseca2073 Britain outlawed slavery throughout the empire shortly after it was formally outlawed on the British Isles. It also literally went to war to stop the trans Atlantic slave trade.
@@AcidAdventurer and ?
“I agree with myself so far.” 😆
Honestly I would love to see Hollywood make a historical accurate documentary of one of the kingdoms in Africa. I accept everyone no matter what they look like. I can say I hate when people change history and make movies that insult groups of people because Hollywood decided to make a movie so inaccurate and wrong
I agree. If the want one with a female regent or very important individual, there is plenty.
We have Amanirenas from Kush, Zaynab from the Almoravid Dynasty, Amina of Zazzau and I can going.
I wish we did have more about the kingdoms in Africa other than Egypt and the Arabs. I love both of those, but I also love learning new things. One of the reasons I started studying Islam in graduate school was because of the fact that I knew very little about it and I would feel the same about the kingdom of Zimbabwe or Aksum in Ethiopia.
@@NicholasNappi Such projects would get boycotted too. People will find something to complain about I’m sure.
I agree that Nyongo must be a very principled and strong-minded lady,praise to her.
I actually enjoyed the movie but from a fictional perspective. The ambiance felt good, the actors were good, the fight scenes were fine, not the best out there but still enjoyable for me. Although I'm African but not related to Dahomey and Fon people, some elements and details in African cultures are kind of similar and make us connect and enjoy ourselves despite the differences so it resonated a lot in me.
However the historical accuracy of the movie is disgraceful. I already knew about this before it came out so I watched the first time from a fictional perspective and enjoyed it but when I watched the second time a few days later from a historical perspective it felt atrocious. Many of the inaccuracies were due to the projection of modern and foreign perspectives and narratives, and too much anachronism.
For example: there was no idea of "Africa" among several kingdoms back in days. The idea of Africa and Africans only came centuries later around the XX century.
Another example is slavery: it did happen, but there were so many motivations and contexts behind it, both internally and externally. In Dahomey's case people kinda miss their position: they were formerly opressed and dominated by the Oyo Empire and "recently" managed to be independent, but still suffered a lot of pressure and raids from neighboring kingdoms, especially Oyo. And most slaves were from wars and conflicts.
What about Dahomey's port and how important it was for trading in the region ? Did all the slave numbers came from the Dahomey crown directly or from many other privates and merchants who happened to use the port and make the trades and then paid taxes for it ? Geography and regional geopolitics and geostrategy should be taken into consideration in the analysis.
People also don't speak about native and foreign mercenaries raiding weak villages and enslaving people or about some nobles who agreed to this and exerted pressure against other nobles and their kings. The idea of "omnipotent Kings" is also wrong and they had to deal with nobles with different views, different motivations and big merchants as well.
Like I said, it wasn't a black-and-white phenomenon. And btw, this context happened in many other kingdoms.
Another big anachronism is the idea of "black or the black people, the blacks all together being the same". This idea wasn't and still isn't a thing and it's a modern concept. We looked at each other by language, culture and ethinic group and also kingdom, not skin color and even today it's still the reality in the continent. The idea about "the white men" did happened early on but it grew and escalated to the racial conflict over time, specially during the colonial period after the scrambling of Africa and this is in the XIX century.
But the biggest issue is the marketing. They sold the movie as "historical". But having some elements and settings doesn't make it inherently historal or accurate. And in many moments it felt like some "Wakanda wanna-be movie" as if Wakanda is somehow historical or realistic. The people who make those movies kinda miss or don't care about our perspectives and our real histories, they don't do any proper research and if they do, they deliberately omit context. As for the actresses, I think they just didn't know and blindly believed the recent fictional popularity of the "African amazons".
Hi, did you see the south african serie "Shaka Ilembe"?
I strongly recomend it, only 1 season for now, but i enjoyed it a lot.
@@TheLoxapac i just saw the trailer. Looks interesting.
@@camilofonseca2073 It really is. Enjoy!
Almost without fail, I hate movies that claim to be historical. It's even worse if I know the history they're pretending to tell. My feeling is that if they don't want to tell the historical story, then, don't bother with it at all. Stop using "based on true events" as a marketing tool and just say, "We like one little bit of this history but we don't feel like being accurate so this is complete and utter fiction with one toe-dip into history."
@@camilofonseca2073 Finally someone said it the historical situation was very complex. They were freedom fighters when looking at their situation with Oyo but, obviously they too sold slaves. If only more people understood the full picture I’m disappointed Metatron didn’t do more research into the matter he usually does.
"Shutup, Metatron, however I do agree" -- Metatron, with better equipment and lighting.
I also wanna underline that the British efforts to fighting slavery - while admirable - was probably not just a "Oh well, this is obviously wrong, selling people" and more of an.... Economical one. Kinda... "Well We don't need slaves anymore, others do.... So we should stop slavery." that said there were quite the strong push towards anti-slavery in England at this time. So I might remember it totally wrong.
Yeah, people are just making excuses for an evil empire just because they were white. The British keep engaging in all sorts of atrocities long after; it was never about being benevolent.
That’s just your jaundiced opinion. And probably guilt for a certain country’s refusal to support the anti-slavery patrol.
@@Colonel_Blimp It would not surprise me at all if I'm just being overly cynical. Although as an Englishman I don't feel any guilt about the british effort to stop the slave trade.
@@Wierdoandzerosorry. I wrongly inferred from your comment that you were American.
Abolition was a thing, although having the gov't via the Navy get involved may have been more the right thing for the wrong reasons ... but at least they tried.
When "300" was released, I don't remember being attacked by Greek descendants for pointing out it's many historical inaccuracies. lol
Present Metatron has far better posture and poise then past Metatron!
When I saw this movie released I was curious about Dahomey. I did my own research and realized it was horrible lies. The Kingdom of Dahomey was one of the largest suppliers of slaves in the Atlantic slave trade. 20% of slaves came from Dahomey. The slave trade was the primary source of income for the king of Dahomey.
Hollywood should hang it's head in shame. Don't get me started on Braveheart though. 🤣
@@markenetube it actually wasn’t, Oyo, Benin and Ashanti to name a few all exported more slaves than they did.
Lol, I think History is basically all about feelings now, maybe ever since I was a kid, but the feelings have changed over to the opposite side from when I was young.
I love this kind of massively exhaustive critique. It is exactly how my brain works and no one in my world can stand it. Their eyes glaze over and I just give up. Thank you so much. You really get me!😂
The only thing I'm offended by is the fact you put the headphones over your hair. Who does that???
I witnessed teenagers debunk this movie with a Google search and a quick skim on Wikipedia. They were very confused as to why the movie was made with such inaccuracies and purposeful rewriting of history. That confusion led directly to understanding. Kids are the best. If they’re not brainwashed already they often have the ability to look right through the nonsense.
Cool that you are look back on old video's to see if you still agree with them. I would like to see you do more video like that.
I liked a lot what they did with "A Gentleman en Moskow". They cast actors from a variety of ethnicities in russian parts without adressing anything about their race. It did not invent a historical effect. It is just actors acting, all of them playing russian parts just how it happened when non slavic white people were cast in those parts.
Großartig gemacht, und gut geschrieben(?). Noch mal schauen wer bei 32:30 den Artikel geschrieben hat und du bist in einer Blase die sich expandiert. Film ist Alles in Allem Quatsch :)%
20:36 “The British”… :)) keep doing what you’re doing! history enthusiasts need your content! all the best from Romania