The Orion, Helios, Lars, Krista team can work with most tanks really, though Chabba, Aurora, and Ziri are definitely the best for that one. It's generally a glass cannon strategy where you try and burn down the other team fast enough that healing isn't necessary. It works better if the other team is using slow healers like Martha, it's less effective if they are using someone like Thea who heals much more aggressively while buffing magic defense and can hit your mages with silence.
cheers for all your content on this game. been learning heaps more. i have been leveling all characters that i have, only missing jabba and jhu. ive noticed most people focused on 1 to 3 teams only, but i'm in no rush. just glad they havent added any more characters yet.
I've been playing for 3 days. I don't spend cash so I'm usually pretty conservative with my resources. But Because of the great discount, I took a chance and got 10 heroic chests and there he was. (Helios)
Thank you for noticing! I've built up a small recording area, and learned a bit more about adjusting audio files. I may have to redo some of my old videos!
I almost have Helios and I find him interesting. For my current I have Maya, Celeste, Nebula, Qing Mao and Astaroth. leveling up my k'arkh to replace qing a few times, and I might switch between maya, Martha and helios. Looking forward to the stats video!
@@Artsy-Fae Their missions take so much energy....I'm starting to think it's not worth it. It's slowing my hero promotions. Maybe I just accept the free soul stones for them when I can, and keep them at 3/4 stars for now!
i pulled helios from my daily chest freebie a week or so ago so the daily reward stones will be good for evolving him, I was really disappointed, if you got all the daily reward stones last month for astrid you ended up being one short to evolve her, but I scored stones from the daily chest for that as well.
@@ijchua Oops! Sorry! RNG means Random Number Generator, which is the system computer programs use to randomly assign a value, such as random chance for loot in the daily chest.
@@ijchua Yea if you think about it, each item is assigned a number, and that number is added to a list of numbers (the other items in that chest), and then each number in the list is assigned a weight (or duplicated to create artificial weight). Then it's just clicking the random number generator assigned to that chest once the command is input (the command being, us opening a chest) and voila, we're assigned a random number value from a pre-determined list.
About the team with Chabba, I don't think that the twins, nor Orion may need the enemy tank "dissapear" to do high damage to the enemies in the back. Also, Chabba is a physical damage hero, he would profit from heroes that increase physical damage (Dorian, Nebula, ...). Wouldn't that team work better with Aurora as tank, since all her skills scale with magic power? Since Aurora may also absorb magic damage, she will mittigate some of this damage, while Helios will do the same against physical damage. Or Rufus. I think that against mixed teams, to support yours with Cornelius + Astaroth or Aurora/Rufus + Helios would be helpful.
First off, thanks for the comment! I'm not at end game just yet, but from what I know and hear, no team with Aurora would work better. Even with this new skin, she just dies too fast to a lot of common teams. Astaroth would be a better tank, that also scales with magic attack. The Twins work very well without a tank, to be honest.
@@HeroWarsCentral i tried many times with maxed out stats in guild test enviroment. an agility team wont work. now - with cain pet - it seems that dodge ability was considered for the first time. I think programmers need to link more the agility to the ATTACK FREQUENCY. it has to be noticeable on screen when battling. if dante will hit 2 times in the normal cycle of idle time of the other heroes, maybe he will have some chance of being a viable character. just like aracne and also nebula (SAD).
Great work man, these videos of yours help a lot, especially people very early in the game like myself. May I ask some advice about my team and the pvp in general? My main pgs are currently Orion, Helios, Dorian, jorgen and astaroth. Theorically speaking, I think these guys should work great together but I'm struggling against almost every team I face in the arena, is it because of my lvl? I'm currently 64 and I usually face teams about lvl 67,68 or even 70 and above. Do 3 or 4 levels matter that much? If so, will it change as soon as I get to higher lvls like 80 or above? Thanks again and keep up the great work!
Great question! Level doesn't matter as much as team cohesion and relative power level. Is there power level significantly higher than yours? That would indicate they've invested a whole lot more into skins/glyphs/artifacts. That IS a good team, though.
No not really, my power is around 70k and theirs is usually almost the same, if not even lower in some battles. That's why I can't figure out my struggling, I have all skills powered up, lvl 10 artifacts and lvl 15-20 main skin, and still some random teams keep kicking my ass lol
@@theactualmarco2039 There are teams way lower than mine that kick my ass. It's likely due to team composition or bad luck. To be honest, at your level, the heroes haven't really stepped fully into their roles yet. I would guess that as you get into the 90s-100s your team will take off (against certain teams faster than others) and those teams that are just thrown together without thought of team cohesion will get left behind.
@@theactualmarco2039 Keep in mind that all teams have a weakness. Yours is going to get blown up by Andvari and any anti-magic teams (Rufus, or Luther, or Cornelius, or Faceless).
@@HeroWarsCentral I make sure to use him against teams with many magickal players. His Strength artifact is at lvl 100 at 4 stars. He does a good job against magickal teams, as he cannot die due to magick. Physical teams he is a bit squishy but with Qing Mao there she helps with the front line and I have her dodge glyph pretty high.
Thank you for a fantastic job. This is my go to place to know which strategy, skin etc etc to go for or avoid. Finally got Helios and got him to violet+2. Orion also is violet+2. Sadly I haven’t got Dorian and Martha yet. Want have Astaroth, Celeste, Helios, Orion and Dorian. Swap in Jurgen and/or Martha depending on opposition. Question. Does Keira fit in any Helios-team? I’ve invested a lot of skincoins (winterskin), glyphs artifacts etc and do not want to abandon her. What’s your recommendations?
hi i'm following your videos for a while now and i really think that you are doing a great job. i want to ask your opinion on something. what first team do you recomend for me and why? i have the following heros in descending order by power: arachne, astaroth, celeste, thea, ginger, luther, galahad, keira, helios, phobos, artemis, heidi. plus i could buy maybe one of these: maya, faceless/cornelius or maybe jorgen.
Astaroth is a great tank, first of all. Then, grab both Celeste and Thea. Those are great healers/support/damage heroes. I would probably next choose a damage dealer, either Keira or Ginger. They're both really strong, but I think Keira is slightly better mid to late game. Finally, grab Jorgen. He's a great all around support, and a top3 hero at end game. That's just a quick suggestion!
@@HeroWarsCentral thank you for responding. would Astaroth work well in this setup? with Thea, Celeste Keira and Jorgen? it will be a good synergy between them?
I've got an Astaroth, Galahad, K'arkh, Keira, Celeste team on a level of 51. Any recommendations? I mean, it works oht quite good but... I'm kinda new in the game
That'll be a decent team for awhile, but you may need more heals than Celeste in the future. Think about swapping out Galahad for Martha, Thea, or Maya.
I have a serious problem please help... tried to use my cell phone account on iPad and it made me start new game on the iPad and now I’ve lost my mobile count that’s had over $100 invested into it... what can I do???
My favourite hero so far is GInger i liked her from the very beginning and i have invested and spoiled her alot. Atm i'm using her togheter with Astaroth, Celeste, Jorgen and Arachne. what heroes works better with Ginger? i'm thinking on replacing Arachne with someone. but i can't really decide who. any suggestion? I play the mobile version
yes there is a guaranteed way to get cleaver. cleaver comes when you don't need him anymore. so if you invest your asto fully and totally cleaver will come to you to make you more and more spend. did we get it?
i have as main Team Helios Orion dorian jorgen i Need one more may be Martha asaroth ore peppy ? dorian must be in the middle of my Team. can somone help me >?
I have the same team helios, orion, dorian, jorgen and TEA. With thise healing power I kick es**s even 10 lvs more or 10k more are not a problem, BUT only Rufus teams make me cry so far :D now I upgrade Galahat(looking for champion skin) to change Tea when needed for more phisic dmg. I think strong Galahat will fit well in this team becouse of the vamp. and the 2nd skill of Jorgen-gives sheld with extra energy. And Galahat will use his 1st skill more often and will heal himself better. Am I right? Or I must thing for other tank.
I know Orion - Dorian - Helios is a popular combo, but don't both Orion and Helios attack the back row mostly? Doesn't this mean they won't get much healing?
The Orion, Helios, Lars, Krista team can work with most tanks really, though Chabba, Aurora, and Ziri are definitely the best for that one. It's generally a glass cannon strategy where you try and burn down the other team fast enough that healing isn't necessary. It works better if the other team is using slow healers like Martha, it's less effective if they are using someone like Thea who heals much more aggressively while buffing magic defense and can hit your mages with silence.
Ah, that is an important distinction.
cheers for all your content on this game. been learning heaps more. i have been leveling all characters that i have, only missing jabba and jhu. ive noticed most people focused on 1 to 3 teams only, but i'm in no rush. just glad they havent added any more characters yet.
Thanks for the support! Yea if you focus on too many people at once you'll run out of resources.
I've been playing for 3 days. I don't spend cash so I'm usually pretty conservative with my resources. But Because of the great discount, I took a chance and got 10 heroic chests and there he was. (Helios)
audio quality is a ton better. Thanks for the upgrade.
Thank you for noticing! I've built up a small recording area, and learned a bit more about adjusting audio files. I may have to redo some of my old videos!
I almost have Helios and I find him interesting. For my current I have Maya, Celeste, Nebula, Qing Mao and Astaroth. leveling up my k'arkh to replace qing a few times, and I might switch between maya, Martha and helios. Looking forward to the stats video!
I'm happy he's the hero of the month, so I can stop farming for his stones and focus on the twins instead!
@@HeroWarsCentral I'm almost near the twins to start farming ;)
@@Artsy-Fae Their missions take so much energy....I'm starting to think it's not worth it. It's slowing my hero promotions. Maybe I just accept the free soul stones for them when I can, and keep them at 3/4 stars for now!
Helios is in my top 5 - Astaroth, Helios, Orion & Martha and then i swap in Jorgen, Celeste or Dorian depending on opponent. That’s my A team
in some duels or missions, you might switch him with Cornelius, for magic ressistance
Looks like a good team. I'm just now startign to consider him for mine...
Hero Wars Central along with heal, Martha also speeds them up which increases their damage making her a good fit
@@seancole22 Martha is so good.
i pulled helios from my daily chest freebie a week or so ago so the daily reward stones will be good for evolving him, I was really disappointed, if you got all the daily reward stones last month for astrid you ended up being one short to evolve her, but I scored stones from the daily chest for that as well.
I did the same! I was actually farming up his stones in the campaign, I'm glad I don't have to anymore
META meaning finally revealed! Mind blown.
I hate acronyms so much!
@@HeroWarsCentral I still don't know what RNG really means!
@@ijchua Oops! Sorry! RNG means Random Number Generator, which is the system computer programs use to randomly assign a value, such as random chance for loot in the daily chest.
@@HeroWarsCentral I know about RNGs (and PRNGs and CSPRNGs) as a developer but didn't know it was directly used in a game context!
@@ijchua Yea if you think about it, each item is assigned a number, and that number is added to a list of numbers (the other items in that chest), and then each number in the list is assigned a weight (or duplicated to create artificial weight).
Then it's just clicking the random number generator assigned to that chest once the command is input (the command being, us opening a chest) and voila, we're assigned a random number value from a pre-determined list.
I would also add that Helios is a really good anti elmir's clone with his energy ball on the front line 😉
Great video! Can't wait to try them! Keep up the good work
Thank you for the support! This was a lot of fun to do, and a commonly asked for style of video!
About the team with Chabba, I don't think that the twins, nor Orion may need the enemy tank "dissapear" to do high damage to the enemies in the back. Also, Chabba is a physical damage hero, he would profit from heroes that increase physical damage (Dorian, Nebula, ...). Wouldn't that team work better with Aurora as tank, since all her skills scale with magic power? Since Aurora may also absorb magic damage, she will mittigate some of this damage, while Helios will do the same against physical damage.
Or Rufus. I think that against mixed teams, to support yours with Cornelius + Astaroth or Aurora/Rufus + Helios would be helpful.
First off, thanks for the comment!
I'm not at end game just yet, but from what I know and hear, no team with Aurora would work better. Even with this new skin, she just dies too fast to a lot of common teams. Astaroth would be a better tank, that also scales with magic attack.
The Twins work very well without a tank, to be honest.
Great video thanks. Looking forward to the next one.
Thank you for the support! This was a lot of fun to do, and a commonly asked for style of video!
Thanks for the video! Helios is my fav hero :)
I'm curious what order you should do things. Like should you evolve > level skills > promote or do things in another order?
It really depends on the hero, but generally if it's a hero you plan to level up at all, you need to do all the things.
Love the odd line ups
I love trying new things!
Challenge for Hero Wars Central: A TEAM FOR DANTE !!! :D
i powered up him to violet 2 & level 50, just for fun but...
Man I've tried so many times to do so. I just can't figure one that competes at a high level. Maybe a pure dodge team? Or a pure agi team?
@@HeroWarsCentral i tried many times with maxed out stats in guild test enviroment. an agility team wont work. now - with cain pet - it seems that dodge ability was considered for the first time. I think programmers need to link more the agility to the ATTACK FREQUENCY. it has to be noticeable on screen when battling. if dante will hit 2 times in the normal cycle of idle time of the other heroes, maybe he will have some chance of being a viable character. just like aracne and also nebula (SAD).
I use Astaroth, Celeste, Jorgen, Orion and Helios along with Merlin the Cat! What do you think?
I'd jump in the discord and ask this!
Would Jhu fit into an Asta Orion Dorian Helios team?
Helios is a good hero but not in my top 15 because according to my testing:
(Tank, 2nd tank or warrior, Orion, Helios, Dorian)
I'm so glad that there isn't one single team that beats them all!
@@HeroWarsCentral 😅
What about Helios, Orion, Dorian, Satori, tank?
I've got Hellos, Orion, Elmer, Dorian, & Galahad as my #2 GA team. But might be switching to Chabba now.
I wish I could show you my heroes. I've had the game for no more than a month but I have some stellar heroes
That's awesome!!
Do you have new detailes video for helios?
Helios or Celeste with twins?
Great work man, these videos of yours help a lot, especially people very early in the game like myself. May I ask some advice about my team and the pvp in general? My main pgs are currently Orion, Helios, Dorian, jorgen and astaroth. Theorically speaking, I think these guys should work great together but I'm struggling against almost every team I face in the arena, is it because of my lvl? I'm currently 64 and I usually face teams about lvl 67,68 or even 70 and above. Do 3 or 4 levels matter that much? If so, will it change as soon as I get to higher lvls like 80 or above? Thanks again and keep up the great work!
Great question! Level doesn't matter as much as team cohesion and relative power level. Is there power level significantly higher than yours? That would indicate they've invested a whole lot more into skins/glyphs/artifacts. That IS a good team, though.
No not really, my power is around 70k and theirs is usually almost the same, if not even lower in some battles. That's why I can't figure out my struggling, I have all skills powered up, lvl 10 artifacts and lvl 15-20 main skin, and still some random teams keep kicking my ass lol
@@theactualmarco2039 There are teams way lower than mine that kick my ass. It's likely due to team composition or bad luck.
To be honest, at your level, the heroes haven't really stepped fully into their roles yet. I would guess that as you get into the 90s-100s your team will take off (against certain teams faster than others) and those teams that are just thrown together without thought of team cohesion will get left behind.
I see. Well that makes sense, I'll keep on grinding! Thanks a lot for your time :)
@@theactualmarco2039 Keep in mind that all teams have a weakness. Yours is going to get blown up by Andvari and any anti-magic teams (Rufus, or Luther, or Cornelius, or Faceless).
I was hoping you'd discuss which skins are best for Helios. As a Mage/Support i find him a bit difficult do i just go for magic attack?
2nd hero lineup Rufus, Quing Mao, Dorian, Orion, Helios
How is that working out for you? Using Rufus as your primary tank.
@@HeroWarsCentral I make sure to use him against teams with many magickal players. His Strength artifact is at lvl 100 at 4 stars. He does a good job against magickal teams, as he cannot die due to magick. Physical teams he is a bit squishy but with Qing Mao there she helps with the front line and I have her dodge glyph pretty high.
@@Angailekey I've always liked Rufus, but I never had him high enough to be competitive. I'm glad to know he's working out for oyu!
The discord link is expired, can you post new link and update it. Thanks!
I'm not sure why this keeps happening. I keep setting it to permanent! Here you go:
discord.gg/sdwnNzf
Thank you for a fantastic job. This is my go to place to know which strategy, skin etc etc to go for or avoid.
Finally got Helios and got him to violet+2. Orion also is violet+2. Sadly I haven’t got Dorian and Martha yet.
Want have Astaroth, Celeste, Helios, Orion and Dorian. Swap in Jurgen and/or Martha depending on opposition.
Question. Does Keira fit in any Helios-team? I’ve invested a lot of skincoins (winterskin), glyphs artifacts etc and do not want to abandon her. What’s your recommendations?
Helios is a good swap-in hero against crit-heavy teams like Jhu or Ishmael.
hi i'm following your videos for a while now and i really think that you are doing a great job. i want to ask your opinion on something. what first team do you recomend for me and why? i have the following heros in descending order by power: arachne, astaroth, celeste, thea, ginger, luther, galahad, keira, helios, phobos, artemis, heidi. plus i could buy maybe one of these: maya, faceless/cornelius or maybe jorgen.
Astaroth is a great tank, first of all. Then, grab both Celeste and Thea. Those are great healers/support/damage heroes. I would probably next choose a damage dealer, either Keira or Ginger. They're both really strong, but I think Keira is slightly better mid to late game. Finally, grab Jorgen. He's a great all around support, and a top3 hero at end game.
That's just a quick suggestion!
@@HeroWarsCentral thank you for responding. would Astaroth work well in this setup? with Thea, Celeste Keira and Jorgen? it will be a good synergy between them?
@@roberto02253 Definitely!
@@roberto02253 I think Orion is slightly better. Slightly.
Do you know if this lineup would work: Cleaver, Orion, Dorian, Peppy, Helios?
Kristoffer Gumpen
Good line
Looks pretty strong!
I've got an Astaroth, Galahad, K'arkh, Keira, Celeste team on a level of 51. Any recommendations? I mean, it works oht quite good but... I'm kinda new in the game
That'll be a decent team for awhile, but you may need more heals than Celeste in the future. Think about swapping out Galahad for Martha, Thea, or Maya.
@@HeroWarsCentral okay I will watch out for it, thanks though 👍😊
Hi Charles. “Helios is not in my top 5” So what’s your top 5 like?
I have a serious problem please help... tried to use my cell phone account on iPad and it made me start new game on the iPad and now I’ve lost my mobile count that’s had over $100 invested into it... what can I do???
That's a little outside of anythign I can help with. YOu should track down your account IDs and get in touch with support.
Hero Wars Central I’ve got my account is for one of them and have both screen names used, I had two game going on different servers... ok thanks
What about Helios Dorian Orion Nebula Gallahad ? Sounds really strong with nebula buffs on gallahad with his own vampirism as well, what do u think?
I'd ask this in the discord!
Gallahad might wont be able to tank as good as proper tank heroes. Let me know how you able to deal with Satori set ups. Does he 1 shot your Orion?
I have Astaroth, Jorgen, Helios and Orion. Who would you recommend to be my last hero?
Healer
My favourite hero so far is GInger i liked her from the very beginning and i have invested and spoiled her alot. Atm i'm using her togheter with Astaroth, Celeste, Jorgen and Arachne. what heroes works better with Ginger? i'm thinking on replacing Arachne with someone. but i can't really decide who. any suggestion? I play the mobile version
Arachne is a great support hero, you could use Nebula, Andvari, or maybe QingMao for more Armor Penetration.
@@HeroWarsCentral i see.. Nebula i don't have yet.. but the other 2 i could lvl up and power up abit. see who i like better..
@@White0523 Good luck!
Hi, what is the best skin for helios?
that means was i must playing levels with boosess only?
I don't follow...sorry
my question is. for fast soulstones must defeat bosses only?
@@ΣτρατοςΠεννης not really
Will you do a video for mobile too? I think there is an Artemis 3 day event and Dorian prize for the month
Yes -- I wish we were getting Helios stones instead of Dorian on mobile.
@@michaelbaird5332 I know, but Dorian isn't a campaign hero while Helios is. Once you get to endgame you'll appreciate it! lol
Yep, Dorian video is already que'd up
Is there a fixed spending guarantee to get Cleaver the way that spending 4500 and 45000 guarantees your first 2 totems?
No, but supposedly every time you open the chest it's a higher and higher chance to get him!
Don’t bother bro. I spent over 200 bucks in gems just for him and nothing! Game is harsh when it comes to freebies...
yes there is a guaranteed way to get cleaver. cleaver comes when you don't need him anymore. so if you invest your asto fully and totally cleaver will come to you to make you more and more spend. did we get it?
Can you make a video on artifacts? The game doesn’t explain anything in them. I think this is super important!
I have a video on artifacts, but it needs revision!
please a litl help how to ingreaze stars?
You collect additional soulstones to get more stars!
Do an actual video on Helios, Strength and weakness.
Good anti Roofus team, characters?
Charles Armentrout go physical on him. He falls quick to physical attackers.
Hi Charlie i wanna participate for the free skin conquest tks and good day
my team: elmir, luther, quinglao, martha, celes/ how do you think?
I think it could work, but it's definitely got some holes. I love Luther but I'm worried he's not strong enough.
@@HeroWarsCentral uhu. When quinglao + luther use the first skill. Luther will take all damage
@@HungTran-xm6cu If that's the key to make Luther work, I'll try it out!
i have as main Team Helios Orion dorian jorgen i Need one more may be Martha asaroth ore peppy ? dorian must be in the middle of my Team. can somone help me >?
Astaroth you need a tank
I would also suggest a tank, to round that out nicely!
Thx
@@hamesimires9478 Good luck!
I have the same team helios, orion, dorian, jorgen and TEA. With thise healing power I kick es**s even 10 lvs more or 10k more are not a problem, BUT only Rufus teams make me cry so far :D now I upgrade Galahat(looking for champion skin) to change Tea when needed for more phisic dmg. I think strong Galahat will fit well in this team becouse of the vamp. and the 2nd skill of Jorgen-gives sheld with extra energy. And Galahat will use his 1st skill more often and will heal himself better. Am I right? Or I must thing for other tank.
who counters Helios? No one seems to know!
New discord invite?? I'd like to join!
Sorry I'm just now seeing this!
discord.gg/vN9XCDv
Will you look at that Cleaver ;)
He's so SEXY lol. So pumped to use him.
Claever maya jorgen Peppy Helios. 🇹🇷
Discord link expired or invalid :(
oof. Why does this keep happening.
discord.gg/vN9XCDv
ok
Thanks for the comment! Anything you'd like to see?
Do a Ginger team please! mobile
She's coming soon!
Use ginger in my tea
I know Orion - Dorian - Helios is a popular combo, but don't both Orion and Helios attack the back row mostly? Doesn't this mean they won't get much healing?
why Nebula isnt that good adition to Helios,Orion,Doran and Ast?
its useless artemis right now on mobile 😌
😅
I know right.
Artemis is your hero of the month on mobile? Mine is Dorian....?
Oh, the Punishing Arrows event. I'm talking about the "Daily Bonus" tab, where you get the emeralds/potions/gold/stones.
@@HeroWarsCentral yes, daily bonus tab also occupied by Artemis, poor girl, very few want her in their team
Did you just say you're tired of the meta teams and always use karkh astoroth variations no matter what lollololol
In this order I want Orion, Isaac and Dante. ID 559707799.
You think Helios is a guy? I think she's a girl
what was helios subbed for in team 1 (meaning, what would be the classical khark team?) im noob.