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- Опубліковано 12 вер 2024
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I have a brilliant, insane idea. How about just fixing the AI of the monsters? It's just depressing at this point.
AI fix in PVE would be really nice.. Ai fix in pvp would probably cause alot of nightmares.
Did they fix it yet?
Send help
Pathetic how we need to build a unawaken unit for this, cuz monsters AI are just trash...
Agreed.
Let's all starve until they fix it, they don't want us to die and stop wailing on the game. Trust me it will work.
I am kicking myself mentally because I had her for a while and awakened her only to find out she is much better unawakened in this dungeon.
People use the water cannon girl in Necro because Abigail has a worthless skill 3.
😂😂
September now and still waiting for that AI fix for Megan
Wtf Megan bro, she will fail on putting the buff 50% of the time due to the glancing ...
Com2Us Boss: How do we make a dungeon that is challenging? Com2us Dev: How about we make it dependent on our AI? Com2Us: BRILLIANT!
improve acc avoid glancing??? come on.. 6 years already. Megan is the last monster you should consider in steel.
Hey! Just wanted to clear this up: Accuracy doesn't affect Glancing chance at all! Accuracy will make it more meaningful when the attack lands. (:
@Summoners War she will still glance 50% of the time, and she can’t land buff block if she glances
@@SummonersWarApp Will make it more meaningful... but still won't actually cause a debuff to land. Maybe you should retract the "advice" ?
Summoners War Perhaps you guys should consult any Summoners War content creaters before posting any misleading guide, appreciate if you take down the video :)
Summoners War Just take the video down
So how long till they delete the video or make a correction video ;-;
This video just shows how bad AI is in this game. "bring 2 of everything, because if it missess..."
well 2 of everything is in case resist, and has more to do with rng than ai, but i get your point
@@GaniEmi Bad AI = aka rng
@@DominickLobo Yeah....no. Try again :)
@@legoandmore9004u don't get my point!!
Megan in a wind dungeon , those guys even play this game? This is a bad joke
It doesn't help that the vamp lord never lands the debuff even with 100% accuracy. Makes it super fun.
wind mystic witch wasn't given any shout out... sad
Don't worry about her just use Megan and get glancing hits 50% of the time.
to bring Megan here is so damn stupid.. and to say to get max acc cause elemental disav??? wtf? are you guys on drugs?
Do not know if anyone already said it:
Zinc S3: 50% base rate up to 70%, Cooldown on 5 turns can go to 4 turns,
Eirgar S2: 75% base rate up to 100%, Cooldown on 4 Turns can go to 3 turns,
So if i can see it right except from the stupid ai eirgar would be the more reliable blocker of these two if he would be able to use s2 when he sees buffs on the target like gina
Well but Gina strips and buff blocks. Eirgar doesn't strip so how would you program the perfect AI?
They can only change the AI to prioritize S2 over S3 which I don't see happening
But zinc is also more reliable because it s 3 chances with 70% eirgar is 1 with 100 not as good
@@Drakenlord just make eirgar use s2 over s1... you dont lose a rune because eirgar uses s3 first and s2 on the second turn, you lose runs because he keeps using s1 ovr and over again without ever using s2
@@corentinpigeard9734 I'd rather have a 100% activation rate once every 3 turns than a 3 triple 70% activation rate every 4 turns.
Even if the cooldowns were the same, 70% 3 times technically means a 97,3% activation rate going into the resistance check while the 100% just goes straight to it. If you can get a Nat 5 or a fake 5, you can surely get the 2,7% unlucky roll
@@corentinpigeard9734 did not said it with the hits because they are the same. eirgar awakened get 3 hits on s2, so in this point it does not really matter. The only differences are activation rate and cooldown,
even c2us people know that the vampires have non existant AI. also..pung?? dont make me laugh, he uses s2 every 20 turns
Not really...I use eirgar and pung and it’s pretty consistent, pung usually carries too
Lel 😆😆😆😆😆
@@RohitDas-li8er lucky. my pung literally uses it like every 3 runs and when he does its like 4 turns late and half my team was wiped, i just stopped trying
They forgot the wind mystic witch... -_-
Come2us: We have a new unit that blocks bluffs in skill 1
new unit: naa I better use skills 2 and 3
Does this team fix the AI issues?
Been running this Dungeon with Chiwu and all I can say is He's so F Stoopid he keeps doing 1st and 3rd and wot even do 2nd and it keeps going until I turn off Auto and manual it instead.
yeah sometimes it takes about 8 turns until he finally uses the buff block... and half of the team is already dead
Nice team, now, is just fix them AI, and, can be really safe
Fix all AI ,love when Lushen using S3 on one mon
Please if you're new to the game, don't listen to this. Don't use Megan. I don't understand how can you recommend a unit that can glance 50% of the time meaning she won't apply the block even if you have 100% acc.
Yes, Use 2 units that block beneficial effects.
And Gina (not ftp BTW) the dark mystic is much better, it's so lame that we have to use her unawakened. Wind mystic is also decent.
Zinc is really good, but not ftp. Unless you could choose him over miho Jultan etc from the event, also Gina I don't know were they thing you got her, don't remember she being sd or something like that.
Dark vamp is really bad, sometimes he cycles s3 and don't use s2 in between, it's infuriating seeing him. Same goes for Argen.
Raok is good.
But man, if the AI worked better, this won't be such a pain.
I considered using megan as a joke, worked for maybe 2 times but not a good choice
@@SatoshiMaiko yeah, of course she can work, but you'll have 50% chance to glance, so 50% chance to fail her job. Because she's there mostly for that skill. And we know that we can't use something that unreliable. That's why it's a bad idea.
Who else came here after watching SeanB's video on this?
megan in steel..... Bruh.
“Least common debuff” yeah, sure, is oblivion not a thing?
Touché.
tesarion, the president. Pretty f2p
Tapu Blast until you get hit with the nat4 only siege defense that’s based on passives, no f2p friendly method to easily get it
@@shadowflamelightburst4503 true true, but that's just one scenario.
@@tapublast5459 the one scenario that repeats itself countless times if the guilds you're facing are anywhere near competent, lol
Lmao Megan in wind dungeon, 100acc they don’t even know the acc cap? Tf is this Guide
Had this for the game for 9 months it swallowed my time and what do I have to show for it, mildy decent runes
Edit: forgot to add I deleted this game it's kinda trash now that I think about all the problem this game has and the developers wont fix it
Here is how to make loren’s ai better by doing basically nothing
Step 1, find balladeon’s code for s2
Step 2, ctrl+c
Step 3, go to loren’s ai for s2 and do ctrl+v
Boom god teir ai
You know what's better than Raoq for this dungeon? 2 Raoqs. Ave spd is 1 min 20 secs.
Turn order:
Loren Gina Fran Raoq Raoq
Zinc Loren Fran Raoq Raoq (works fine, as well)
There aren't many problems that 2 Raoqs won't fix.
@@SummonersWarApp Unit that fixes shit ai is so good that people build 2-3 of them lmao
@@SummonersWarApp They wont fix that Megan glances 50% of the time and therefor doesnt apply buff block.
I have been focusing on that Homunculus T-shirt for the entire video 3:56
It's one of my favorite shirts. :'D
@@SummonersWarApp Welp now it's my favorite too, gotta stare at it if it appears in any video now.
zinc f2p?
use the Igmanodon for buff blocking he has passive that aplais it when he is attackt always works
One of my favorite easy to get fire lizardman!. Gonna be super good.
some comps for y'all that are having trouble
1. Eirgar, Silia(Wind mystic witch), Loren +1 support/block buff +1 damage dealer
Ex: Bella, Argen for a safer team, bella helps you in the trash waves because loren and silia may not be able to heal themselves.
Raoq, Argen
Raoq, Fran
Double Raoq
Naomi, Argen
Fran, Argen
Verde, Argen
Verde, Raoq
2. Fran, Loren, Silia, +1block buff +1 damage dealer
Ex: Argen, Raoq
Argen, Verde
Argen, Kro
Some tips and stats:
1.The fastest units in the dungeon are the boss with 150 speed and the mid boss with 145, if you can make sure your damage dealers can move before them the run will be much safer in the trash waves
2.Acc cap for this dungeon is 25%, anything above that does NOT DO ANYTHING AT ALL
3.Argen is very good in this dungeon because he brings both damage and safety in his kit
4. The reason i'm putting Silia in every comp is because she strips and blocks buffs with her THIRD skill, the shitty ai in this game prioritizes the third skill so silia probably won't do s1 5 times in a row(she is but that's just com2us for ya)
5. Make sure loren is fast enough because she is your safety net while the boss doesn't have block buff on.
6. Skill ups for the vampire fucks might not be good with a raoq on the team(yeah raoq might cycle cooldowns and these fuckers will go 10 turns without using their s2) so you don't really need skill ups for argen.
7. Megan will glance half the time, either making your runs 1-2 minutes longer or just causing it to fail
8. If you put the sucky bois on violent you might just see them go 15 turns withou using their s2
9. This comment is very passive agressive but i really feel like you guys are doing noobs dirty by recomending a water unit to debuff a wind boss
Who is Argen?
This video is such an OOPSIE.
The sad part is, that if they did not have highlighted so much Megan it would be a actuall decent video, and in case they have one the right whing and mentioned as a not reccomended pick but it can work... it would be as close to perfect fun/guide (more to the fun side) video
dang, i really cannot progress in this game
Same
yes, bc loren will wait for beneficial effects to strip, and totally not f up.
No mentioning of building the dark mystic witch and not awakening her? Thats the BEST advice because no other unit in this game has the AI to actually use the right skill at the right time apart from her.
I wonder why you didn't mention that?
why don't bring fire lizardman ? it got passive to block beneficial effects when attacked
Had to come see this for myself. Its embarrassing that this video is still up.
whats even more embarassing is Nobody thought to use monsters that ignore damage reduction
They are adorable 👁⭕👁
i think that this is very simple... if u use double raoq 2a for team up then your team will be more realiable with 3rd or unawaken 2nd skill anti buff monster(without 3rd skill)... instead if you use antibuff of a monster with 3rd skill and antibuff on 2nd skill,please don't use team up on the team,cause that will help to reduce the chance of use the skill 2
This is something copy paste from seanb video... hope help a bit about antibuff monster
Everyone: use zinc!
Me:songsoal?
Bro this dungeon is very difficult for me more than others. Gonna have to build one or two more units to try.
How have you not taken this video down guys? You should be embarrassed to leave it up, no shame :-(
Do you guys play Summoners war for more then 3 weeks?
Damn, megan ? Are u sure? Lmao :)
Não existe problema nesta DG, o problema é a IA dos mobs, que utilizam a skill na hora errada, otimizem a IA dos mobs pra utilizar o antibuff apenas quando existir buff a ser bloqueado ou stripado, assim como o Bella faz no dragão e no gigante, outra dica, não criem um conteúdo pve onde vc depende de sorte na rng, como o strip no dragão b12 que não existe cap de acc para conseguir o strip, já fiz teste com Loren/Bella/Megan/elsharion todos com 100% de acc e ainda falha o strip.
No mais, gostei da att, agora eu consigo runas 6*, obrigado.
get in the robot shinji!
glad i wasn't the only one who got that reference
Chilling is better than Megan because he can steal buffs and strip and speed buff and crit rate buff
yeah, but without buff block he can't do shit.
BelleBR then pair him up with zinc
@@esaamohammed1073 the question is if he's better than megan for SF10, so... no.
BelleBR Megan has garbage AI anyways, zinc has three chances to get the block on his s3. So chilling could just steal without like the useof pang
Get in the mech Leona....
Evangelion transmogs when?
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Click it.. you wont regret it.
@@cloverateuwu3302 I have found new meaning to life.
@@jarydgrobler9526 wise words. Spread the gospel brotha
When fix ai
I did't know Aschubel is not using his 3rd skill on boss monster Cairos Dungeon, Pls Fix
Boys listen to me, I got a new team comp and its a NO STRIP TEAM,
Verde, hwa, Xiong Fei, Fran and Igmanodon
Zinc/Dark witch... "f2p team" Yikes... Megan in Wind dungeon to land her Spellblock only 50% of the time... YIKES... Eirgar for Zinc ? With his bad AI ? YiKeS
Worst team.... You want ppl to use 2 useless spellblock units in 1 team..
My boy cadiz doesnt get a mention tsk tsk
I love you guys but... I posted this same video a day before you... j/k because no one watches my videos and I didnt know why the boss targets megan first but my team for b10 was:
Verd (spd100) /Elsharion /Fran/ Loren (spd 130) /Megan 5⭐
I was so lucky I got Zinc from the lnd scroll from the challenge
stop using megan in the dungeon. Wind ai always attacks water first. Unless something else is low health or with an harmful effect
@@TheElectroshadic (edited) In the video you must of saw you need 2 buff blockers because effect rate for all the mons is about 75% and then theres the cooldown, so the buff block is not guaranteed from any of them, Gina is perfectly fine, but you could just add a stripper to the team if you didnt have Gina... If you dont have zinc and gina youre forced into using argen and megan anyways.
@@TheElectroshadic okay wait... I misread your reply, I know that now from watching the video
@@noctiscaelum9845 it's cool it's just that they recommend to use Megan because of her defense and attack buff and strip and block but she needs good stats and insane luck for consistancy to clear it even with another buff blocker.
@@TheElectroshadic I would have to agree with you, my Megan team is not reliable for farming at all (b8 is more consistent) I still plan on adding Argen for my team and Gina is ideal here to give an extra space for more damage
Is zinc better cause idk if I should use him or dark witch
I use the Wind Mystic Witch since she could block and strip and defense break lol
Did anyone try to click the close button of summoners wars by instinct
I'm finding out there's lots of people leaving the game because of this dungeon LOL
Something does need to happen with this dungeon but pls remember that these gentleman in the video are doing everything they can to help and put stuff out there. Everyone makes mistakes even all our favorite content creators. yes its a bigger deal cause they are from the summoners war UA-cam ch but lets not forget they are humans also.
If they represent the game they should have basic knowledge of it, these guys talk like they played SW for a week tops
@@Deviczek You are absolutely right. But when it comes down to it sometimes it does happen. So they should take the proper actions and realize that this dungeon is doing more harm to the game then Good. But they are also human and people tend to forget that. They are getting a lot of heat (which they should) but only to a certain point.
@@heavensroyalty9896 Woah slow down, why would this dungeon do any harm to the game, its pretty much easiest dungeon out there now, all of them are easy if you use proper team, with B10's there was a problem that literally any monster could do them, now it requires little bit of thinking
@@Deviczek the stuff I said was simply what I notice coming from the community.
the problem I get in the boss and neither of them put a blocker
Thanks Folks!
and they are paying this guys to made content. KNOW YOUR NAME
Why was the background a foreign language?
Because they don’t just do it in English
ANTI SIMP NAVY _ I know
It's a korean company, what do you mean by foreign?
do you guys think that the water string master will prevent the boss from gaining the beneficial effects????
genius
cute!
Got lucky with that Mecha rended pungbaek
Fix AI instead!
Wtf !!! Using Megan against a wind unit , wow .. mind-blowing 😶
Pls fixe the AI instead ...
Not really, i tried it out for a few times
so much green highlight on your face from the green screen
F2P Steel Fortress Guide summary: Hire a new AI programmer...
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NO!!!! 100% acc is just 1% acc, Water vs Wind
I don’t have zinc, and my vamp lord has a success rate of landing “block” of only 20% as of today and yesterday, IM SO UPSET
go farm db12 and get your self a focus set then
Don't worry! Maybe add in Argen or one of the Mystic Witches. (:
@@SummonersWarApp yes, just build the units you don't like bro. Why are you mad???
It's not like there's next to 0 units in game with beneficial block, offering minimal freedom of choice - especially when you realise some units have a working ai and some don't.
Fix the game!!!!!!
this is wrong please fix the guide.
Where’s the updated db12 guides
Dont want 3 min safe team .
Thanks
O_o o_O
I like wind witch better honestly.
During the live I was very hopeful with this update ... when it actually arrived I was surprised at how frustrating it actually was
I did B10 of everything in less than 1 minute and I can’t do any B12 Safe even now, trying many ways and watching many community videos
The new dungeons I feel are lacking more options of monsters that help it ... There are very few monsters that have Block Buff for example
The monthly Boss Content I surprisingly liked differently from most but I understand who didn't
I stopped playing this game seriously for about 1 year and became a player who only logs in the game once a month to do TOA, I started playing more assiduously since the live but I came across a very disappointing content for me, that that I really like the PVE content of the game, I will probably go back to being a player who logs in just to do TOA ...
Well, you can do b10 with pretty much anything in under a minute, now you just have to think a little about team and re rune monsters to match new minimums aka 20k hp and 161 spd
Silia workz better for me the Megan.
Thank you
Whatever you use .. the AI wont block beneficial effect 🤣🤣
yeah yeah let's use Megan
hit that dsilike button. Com2us better start fixing AI's. We don't need new monsters right now just fix the AI
This dude shield annoying like it took hours to beat him without me taking any damage
Everybody R.I.P.'d at me when I got my Chiwu 2 years ago. WHO'S RIPPIN' NOW?!
Spoiler: It's Chiwu.
Also, why would they R.I.P. me? Chiwu has damn good skills and leader skill too... AND a bird
rip
chiwu is a rip because he wasnt useful like at all (until now) outside of higher rta i believe.
How does this video have more upvotes than downvotes? It's full of wrong information and terrible advice! Accuracy doesn't work against glancing, Megan is among the worst buffblock choices for this dungeon. This video should be remade asap before people listen to this terrible advice.
Are.. you.. serious? Do you even play/understand your own game? Megan is by far the worst decision for a buff blocker for this dungeon. She will only successfully apply the debuff in 42.5% of the time (considering glancing and 15% res-chance). And please dont tell shit like, as close too 100 acc as possible. The boss has 39 res. You need no more than 24 acc, you cant improve chances to not glance by raising the acc. Holy shit this video makes me angry.
This game only favors lvl 50s it's suck if your a newcomer
If you are new to the game u shouldn't be doing this dungeon anyway, your priority should be farming gb10 runes
Yeah and actually lvl 50 don't make you good
lvl 1 -50 is the tutorial lmao
Megan? Ela não consegue tirar a imunidade do DB10 com 100% de precisão, imagine do elemento contrário. 😂
megan?realy?
I use crd chiwu for this dungeon and he's really stupid tbh xD
It is impossible to farm normally 12 floors because of the disgusting AI. FIX AI !!!
I 6'ed my pungbaek from storage outta nowhere because of this dungeon.
Fun fact: his AI derps too
@@imvention5696 yea i noticed. I do Fortunately have a stable steel10 team. But god it's slow.
The two people on screen need to do a better job officially. Poor results when they can’t say correctly compared other UA-cam doing exceptional guides to help players to work out through. No offense but they need to stop the pause script. It’s actually annoying when doing this a bunch of time. It’s more likely they talking themselves than being a responsibility to show on global.
Megan? Ahhhhhh seppi, não viaja kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk.
Just give us a unit with skill 1 block beneficial effects and problem solved
2a zinc will have it, living armors are next 2a.
zincs also becoming a sd
@@hericide1 source?
Sepp o sw ta uma merda sepp FAZ ALGUMA COISA SEPPIIIIIIII
Todo mundo reclamando da atualização e a com2us lança uma atualização e um HoH de um monstro que não ajuda em absolutamente nada dessa porcaria que fizeram, eles estão pouco se lixando. O negócio é parar de jogar mesmo, tá cheio de jogo melhor.
I don't think y'all understand F2P or elemental advantage, maybe don't give advice on topics you, sadly, aren't educated on.
water unit in a wind dungeon, pepega
Who the fuck is that guy ??