A Flip of a Coin - One Missed Opportunity
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- Опубліковано 14 вер 2023
- A Flip of a Coin was one of the most disappointing DLC stories in Arkham Knight. Especially because of how much care they almost put into the side-story of Robin's inferiority. They could have done so much more, and then they just didn't. Join me as I break it down in a spinoff of One Amazing Scene where I look at their One Missed Opportunity.
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Ya know ClownPuncher when you think about it Robin did what Nightwing couldn’t- He took down Harley while she had tons of armed men and a rocket launching flare gun while Nightwing couldn’t even take her down alone with like 20 cops helping him.
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And that's why was my least favorite the red-haired one is fun but it's short it's not a bad story it's probably the if if I had the rain come on it's probably my favorite just because I love playing at Red Hood but other than that oh by the way it has my favorite DLC boss fight in Black Mask.
Just a personal opinion: If they made all of the Arkham Stories like A Matter of Family (about 45 or so minutes long) then maybe they could've made them just as good as that mission. It seemed like they only did it for Batgirl because Barbara plays a bigger part in Arkham Knight and wrote off the rest of the Bat Family as the laughing stock. Again, just my opinion.
I think that was the plan but the devs were rushed to put out DLC
Bad opinion. They made a longer one for batgirl because the other Arkham games had that one “long DLC story mission”, like cold cold heart and Harley Quinn’s revenge. That was the point of matter of family. The other story missions were just other 5 dollar short story missions to add more content to the game with different characters. Why would they attempt to write the bat family off as a “laughing stock”???
Yea you’re pretty dead on. They should’ve given the same amount of care to all the stories.
Jason Todd literally IS the Arkham Knight.
@@BK-sh2pn that no excuse
Flip of a Coin’s underlying story was so good but then they just didn’t want to expand on it… 😔
there was no time
I think one of the best scenes in this story besides Two-Face’s talk with him is Robin showing that foreman, “Oh you’re not scared Huh? WELL HOW BOUT NOW?!” Then knocked him out with a straight strike to the head after the interrogation.
I think if this was given as much screen time as Harley Quinns revenge, the themes of this story could have been fully realised.
I wish Robin had the hood on while in predator encounters, that would be like Assassin’s Creed, and would look badass.
But Barbara wasn’t really making fun of him. It seemed like she was just telling him to be robin and to stop trying to be Batman. Unless I’m missing something of course
I would've preferred that as the story, him betraying the kind of person he wants to be to become who everyone else (well, aside from Barbara) expects him to be, because that's the only way they treat him seriously. Then he gets that low point where he learns that he can't be Batman, and Barbara reminds him he shouldn't be Batman. He needs to be his own kind of hero.
It's been done before, but it's a character arc that works, and makes sense given the situation
Yeah she just didn't want him to become as brutal and ruthless as Bruce. She wants him to stay his own hero.
IT was pretty demeaning to him tho
@@shonenking3948 you are correct and I will say that Clown Puncher’s point still remains that Tim (no matter what the true meaning of the words says) still believes that he is inferior and that even Barbara is making fun of him. It’s insecurity. It’s doubt. It’s me and many other young folks nowadays. We have bad self esteem and it hurts us more than it helps us.
4:39 "you're not him" damn barbara, you didn't have to do robin like that
Inferiority is a painful state of mind that I myself go through very often as I get older. Hearing you explain it actually puts a spark of hope in my spirit. Thank you, ClownPuncher. :)
the best way his doubt would come is something so simple. Two face hostage situation, right before tim saves the hostage, two face kills him and tim is left wracked with guilt over this, two face escapes in truck and tim tracks him down but this is when the doubt stuff happens, just something as simple as failing to save someone could do this to him with "batman would have saved him"
Robin is always being hated on, we need to stop robin abuse, both in the games and irl, robin is a good character, I just also wish they expanded his story more.
Mhm
I think the biggest abusers of Robin are none other than DC comics themselves considering that they have turned him into the biggest joke of the entire Bat Family... and one of them is a freaking cow! Poor Tim.
@@georgehouliaras7239I agree 90s and 2000s Tim was amazingly written so was Grayson but it sucks nightwing still gets good writing till this day when Tim does not
To me, the insult is that apparently Robin "needed" Barbara to talk him through taking down Two Face. He most definitely didn't need her commentary to know to take him down when he flipped the coin.
That's especially because she had been trying to build him up previously.
I would absolutely love to see a Robin game set after the events of A Flip of a Coin, kinda like Spider-Man: Miles Morales.
YES!!!
There really is so much you could do with the Arkhamverse cast, I would kill for a proper Arkham Knight succesor, whether it's playing as Nightwing in Bludhaven, Red Hood fuckin', who knows where or Red Robin in Gotham, there's so much untapped potential for more Arkhamverse stories it's fuckin' crazy
This almost feels like how it is with Tim as Robin in general. Compared to the rest of the Batfamily, Tim doesn’t really stand out that much. Just comparing him to his fellow Robins, Dick was the first Robin, who eventually grew out of that role and became Nightwing. Jason is the Robin that died and came back to life and became the Red Hood. And even though he isn’t in the Arkham series, Damien, the Robin after him, stands out more because he’s a lot more violent and is Batman’s actual son. I can’t help but feel bad for Tim because unlike the other Robin’s, he *chose* to be Robin. And he’s proven himself time and again that he is a great hero, but no one really recognizes because like I said, he doesn’t really stand out unless you really think about it.
Tim deserves better.
Tin deserves better....
Tell that to DC and Barnard
Tim kinda gets screwed over because he basically can just be a way to let you have a Robin that can be Robin forever, he doesn't have an end date like nightwing and Mr crowbar, and unlike Damian, he's really not put into a postion where he's supposed to push forward as a character he's sort of in a limbo where he is basically just a Robin that has the purpose of filling the role of Robin when the other Robin's aren't around to be Robin
I’ve always thought that the expansions for Red Hood, Nightwing, and Red Robin (I’ll explain), should’ve been almost mini games themselves that let you explore the world at different times and states. They could see how the world develops with their decisions and how they can help fill the void left in the Batmans until a permanent fix can be made.
This could’ve been concluded with a second Season of Infamy esque DLC that features Azrael, Bane, an actual version of Hush, Damien, and more. To fully end the Arkham world with a strong conclusion, disregarding whatever other DC games come out.
I want to play a Rocksteady game starring Robin
Tim is always getting shafted, I hate it.
Dick is the original, so of course everyone recognizes him. Especially for something like Teen Titans.
Jason gets the spotlight as worst(?) Robin and for a couple years people couldn't stop talking about him as Red Hood, even getting a movie focusing on him, AND being the titular Arkham Knight.
Damian being one of the best Robins' and the blood-son of Bruce definitely helps, and he has a sword, which obviously makes him cooler.
I think the most relevance Tim's gotten in years was the confirmation of him being Bi.
Tim was in DCs most hated show that was Titans where he was Robin for 2 episodes,Young Justice introduced him as a potential protagonist just to never use him once it got revvived for 2 more seasons and Gotham Knights gave him the complexity of a kitkat, he desperately needs that his own adaptation where he's at the center with acurate writing
Jason and Dick are better than Tim ever will be
I was always given the sense that Robin never wanted to be Batman but instead be him and prove himself until he was admired. Plus you act like Barbara never encouraged Tim throughout the entire DLC saying you’re not him, you can be better
I think it would have worked really well had they had that moment where Robin was near failure like you said, and Barbara says something about calling Nightwing to come to save him. So in that moment, he has to prove to everyone, including himself, that he doesn't need Batman, Nightwing, or anyone else's help
I would've wanted a Cold, Cold Heart type DLC for Robin
They should have made these stories longer and gameplay wise given Robin and nightwing their Arkham city gadgets back
I thought it was gonna be like a Miles/Peter thing where it was more about the successor not so much feeling inferior, but realizing that they need to lean into what makes them different from the original, rather than simply trying to emulate. That bit of dialogue between Robin and Batgirl in 'Flip' even hinted at that. Too bad it never materialized 😢
This is why the Arkham series dips after City (minus Origins) in my opinion, because Paul Dini wrote amazing stories (including BTAS) all set up to be nothing in Knight.
Robin is an amazing character ❤
I really do think that if Rocksteady pushed it back 1 year, it could've been so much better than City in every way, including DLC. I think they're "learning their lesson" of not rushing a game by delaying SS: KTJL. They're not going to change the gameplay, let's be honest, but they can see the constant "What ifs" when people make Arkham Knight rewrites. They truly do have the potential to be THE greatest gaming studio if they're just given time
about that...
@@keir012……….
Your videos always amaze me, your thinking and observations are so amazing. Keep up the good work
Its really stupid the resplution (and their isnt even really one) is that Robin acts more like batman with how he says to get two face back to gcpd. They literally made Tim be living in batmans shadow by hinting hes just going to change how he normally acts and stop with the humour to be just like batman. I swear they should of made this be a red robin origin story, the final scene could of been him in the batcave staring at the red robin suit to show hes going to form his own legacy hes going to show the thugs, his wife, the world but more importantly himself he is just as good as batman without the resolution being becomg batman 2.0
At this point, I'd play a great Robin game to continue after Arkham Knights Night Fall. It would actually be nice to play at this Robin.. he seems legit af
Now that ClownPuncher gave Robin the credit he deserves; it would be cool to have a compilation of him roasting Nightwing
What's crazy is that this video not only made me realize how much of a wasted opportunity this story mission was but also how much of a huge missed opportunity that gothem knights was with not having it be a continuation of the Arkham series and follow thr characters after the events of the games maybe even with the idea of robin feeling inferior not only to batman but the other members of the batfamily who came before him.
You bring up a legitimate question
If Bruce had to get himself arrested to get into Arkham City, how did TIM get in AND out?!
There is an explanation in one of the tie-in comics, but the canonicity of those is questionable. Apparently Tim looked at some old sewer blueprints and found that the lake in the batcave connects to the flooded part of Arkham City, and so uses that to sneak in & out undetected.
Same goes for Hush
Well simple put he's wrong, batman didn't plan on being arrested, he just was arrested
Hell, even Two Face is equally sidelined
Robin deserved more in the Arkham Series
In City, he has less than 10 minutes unless you have Harley Queen's Revange, in Knight its almost worse, unless you are looking out for him, going back to the studio every few scenes of the main story to catch him up to the plot, and even then he has no relevance to it, Robin could be removed from knight and the only change would be regarding the clown disease and, even then you could rework the story so alfred makes it instead, he didnt even need to be captured to make batman reveal who he is, just Gordon alone would suffice.
All of arkham knights dlc other than matter of family is a missed opportunity imo. ESPECIALLY Red Hood.
I agree with everything in the video. I mean look at the conversation between Batman & Nightwing when you destroy the last of Penguins weapons cash.
Batman tells Nightwing that he’s proud of him. But you never get to see him praise Tim in anyway shape or form.
Also the only thing that I think you missed out on was when Barbra tells Tim that she’s glad he’s not like Bruce and that he can be better. That’s only bit of praise Tim gets through out the whole Arkham series.
The two face takedown was my favorite part tho
Bruce being arrested wasn't apart of the plan
I always thought Tim was the true air to batman in the arkham verse he’s built like him he’s more brooding than dick and a detective
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They should have made a teen titans games instead of suicide squad that shows development from this Tim drake's robin into the red robin.
I feel like Tim Drake is also just not an accurate representation of Tim in this game. He feels like an older Jason Todd, which creates a hell of a lot of cognitive dissonance when you see both of them in the same game.
Even more so, the whole “you’re not Batman” thing and him being exasperated hearing it despite going out of his way to be like Bruce’s carbon copy really makes me question his writing in specific.
Matt Mercer's great but sounds really mature. I think the franchise could've benefited from a younger robin and Scott Porter from Injustice 2 would've been a good fit imo.
Yeah I agree they couldve done a good story with Tim showing his prowess as a detective and then his distinct style in combat. They couldve shown flashbacks of his training and his relationship with Bruce especially after the death of jason and him coming to terms that no he isnt batman but he can be his own man
This would of be an even better opportunity in my opinion to properly utilize Two-Face. He is criminally underused in the Arkham games and when he is used in its done very terribly in my opinion for some one with so much history with batman and who across endless forms of media has been seen as one of batmans most infamous villians up there with joker.
Only one?
I agree with this analysis as well. The idea of the DLC is good but it doesn’t really give off the cathartic arc of Robin proving himself but in comparison to Harley Quinn’s Revenge it pails.
My problem with this dlc is that when barbra tells tim he is not batman she sounds like she hates bruce saying im glad you not him
Your vids are amazing
I personally think the dlc packs were meant more as an tutorial than well actual story packs excluding matter of family which is what they should have done for all of them in my opinion as it not only serves as your tutorial for batgirl it also tells a fleshed out story which fit into the lore it would have been cool if the other dlc packs focused on how bruces absence has affected the bat-family and the criminal underworld too and in harley quinn's dlc it would have been cool to see the ripple effects jokers death had within his crew like there being deserters who didn't believe Harley was a strong enough replacement for joker and was too hung up on him to actually get things done which we saw signs of in one of the riddles (the joker statue one) anyways I just wasted 5 minutes writing this peace
I like the new Microphone quality good job
I always loved tim in the Arkham series hes my second favorite next to jaosn
DLC expansions never was the Arkham series' strong suit.
They should’ve had him become Red Robin
By the time you're done with this video, you're already done with the story
Such a great day clown puncher uploaded also when are you going live again I’m sorry last time I missed the Live stream
Tim Drakes dlc should've had him becoming Red Robin since Bruce is gone
Barbra was not making fun of Robin though? or doubting him?
tim drake has always been a favorite character of mine espically in comics and stuff while i enjoyed flip of a coin there alot of wasted potential and i kinda wish we could idk hear more about his feelings regarding batman quote death how he's feeling losing his mentor and a kind of father figure if they made it 45 mintues long or longer it would really of been better Inferiority is a painful state of mind that I myself went through but my parents did not care or never said that this kid is better then you they just said do the best you can that's all you can do some things others can do better it does not make you weaker them them you'll stronger in other stuff then all these people i also wish more of the bat family was involved in the arkham games they were very underused that why when i saw gotham knights i was excited that a greater focus was being put but while it did some thing right wrong if somehow they make a sequel they should improve on their weakness overall great analysis once again
video ranking idea: Ranking all Batman Arkham games OST.
You're pitching a good sequel in my opinion.
Add some red hood levels and link the story... I'm up for it.
i think a cool idea for a video would be to play every arkham game and see how long it takes to kill someone for each game (for arkham asylum maybe just batclaw someone of an edge during harley quinns fight, you can make up rules on the way)
I knew not to purchase the season pass, and this was coming from someone who got an Xbox One just for this game. To me, something like Fallout 4 season pass made more sense and was actually cheaper.
Bruce didn’t intend to get arrested in Arkham city lmao
You should play Arkham City but all the sound effects are made by you, It would be funny af
Hard af to do lmao
All u said was true and I agree that Batman is a fantastic hero but he is inferior to Batman. He always was and always will be but what he doesn’t see is that’s not a bad thing. Both nightwing and Jason aka red hood are still inferior to batman but they found their own path which is where Tim is failing to do
Nice vid
It honestly should've just been 2 long story DLCs. The Batgirl one should've been longer and fleshed out the relationship between her and Tim Drake since that's one of the most baffling and disliked parts of the Arkham-verse's story. The second should've been a story with Tim Drake and Jason Todd (with Barbara Gordon trying to keep the peace) working together to calm down the chaos that would definitely have taken root in Gotham following Batman's "death", making the both of them playable and having them try to find a middle ground so they can try and protect Gotham moving forwards. Maybe even turn them against each other at the halfway point due to Jason's willingness to kill, leading to a boss fight and leaving it clear that they'll be at odds moving forward. Like, imagine you start the DLC as Jason Todd, tracking down Two-Face, and he ends up reluctantly working with Tim after running into him doing the same thing. The two of you confront Black Mask and his men because they have info on Two-Face, and this scene ends Black Mask revealing were Two-Face will be in a few days (like they're meeting to discuss a weapons deal or something) and then Jason throws Black Mask to his death, only for Tim to save him and knock him out before returning to confront Jason. The player, who's been in control of Jason this whole time, now has to beat Tim in a boss fight, which you do, but Jason doesn't kill Tim, maybe saying something about how it would leave a bad taste in his mouth for him to kill a Robin. Then after a cutscene where Tim is recovering from his loss agains Jason, he opens up to Barabara about how rough things have been since Bruce died, and about how much he feels like a failure, especially after losing to Jason. Barbara says something to him (ideally something that's a callback to the expanded version of her Batgirl DLC so it ties the two together) that gets him motivated to get up and try again, and you take control of Tim for the rest of the DLC, going to the place Tim and Jason were told Two-Face would be, which culminates in a boss battle where you play as Tim fighting Jason, and Tim comes out on top and arrests Two-Face, ultimately proving that he is capable of portecting Gotham even without Batman.
Day 3 of waiting for the Arkham iceberg 2. (Take your time btw I just think it would be fun to do a countdown/count up to peak)
Tim drake if becomes batman he would be the worst one
Potential candidates as batman are Dick Grayson and Damian Wayne
Maybe since there theories that Damian exists maybe in future they were planning Damian Wayne Arkham game
Tim is red robin never batman that’s what comics portray him as this quite comic accurate
never understood why they made Tim date barbara
Arkham episodes was second best dlc in my opinion.
I hate they killed him off now for no freaking reason. Why is that game not stand alone like Gotham Knights and that new Wonder women game
Wait isn’t Robin trained in hand to hand combat by Batman so how did he lose to Scarecrow
Scarecrow had Militia guards with him that were no doubt armed, and Robin was cornered in a tiny cell, there was nowhere for him to run or hide. Especially since he doesn’t have smoke bombs.
The problem isn't the character. It's Rocksteady. They focused so heavily on Batman
I have a theory: bruce was the first robin and the reason he needs a robin is because he knows that to become batman you must first master being robin
Kind of the right idea, but not at all the right explanation
Well damn
What if the batman in suicide squad is tim
happy batman day
How I would rewrite this DLC
Firstly, Robin has a new suit. It is the Red Robin suit, which resembles Batman's suit and ties into the theme of Robin feeling like he has to be like Batman. The opening is still the same, with Robin arriving in the waste disposal building, going through a predator section, and having a back and forth with Barbara. In addition to having the RHD, Robin now has the sonic batarang, remote control shuriken, smoke pellet, and can do inverted takedowns. The difference is that Two Face is actually at the building, and in the foreman's room. Robin kicks the door open, and finds Two Face holding a gun to a person's head. Two Face tells Robin that he is going to let him walk out of the building or else he will kill the hostage. Robin has to follow Two Face back to the entrance of the building while Two Face holds the gun to the hostage's head and mocks Robin for being unable to do anything about it. Two Face arrives at the entrance where a garbage truck and several of his men are waiting for him. Two Face gets in one final jab at Robin by saying Batman wouldn't have even let him get out of the office and saved the hostage. He then points his gun at Robin, who throws up his shield, and throws the hostage at Robin while firing of two shots that don't hit the shield. They hit the hostage. Robin tries to save the bleeding out hostage while Two Face escapes. The hostage bleeds out in Robin's arms with his final words being "W-w-why didn't you s-*coughs blood* save me?". The screen fades to black.
Check the replies for the continuation. I can't post the whole thing because the comment is too long.
The screen returns to Robin standing on the same tower that Batman was standing on at the start of the game. It is the middle of the day, and it is cloudy and raining (so basically just like in the GCPD Lockdown DLC). Barbara asks Tim if he is alright, and Tim says "I will be when Dent is back in lockup" in the same tone as Bruce. Robin then throws a remote control shuriken to check for radio signals that he can use to find where Two Face is located. He finds 5 crime scene reports, a police radio stating that Deadshot has taken hostages at the Ratanfairy terminal (The map from the "Endless Knight" AR challenge), and that Nightwing is currently trying to stop a bank robbery being committed by Two Face's gang. The players can choose to investigate one of the crime scenes, stop Deadshot, or help Nightwing with the bank robbery. Stopping the robbery progresses the story, but the player can do the side missions after beating Two Face.
Robin arrives at the bank, and sneaks in through one of the exterior vents. He exits at the other side of the vent and lands on a vantage point that Nightwing is currently on. Robin asks "What are you doing in Gotham, Dick?" Nightwing responds "I've been tailing Harvey's gang ever since I found out they hit up Bludhaven's banks while I was helping Bruce with Penguin's gun running operation." Robin,still using Bruce's tone of voice, says "I thought Bruce told you to protect Bludhaven. Gotham is my city now." This just makes Nightwing chuckle and crack a joke about Tim channeling his inner "brooding vigilante". The player gets to replay the final bank heist from Two Face's side mission but it is now a duo predator section with Robin and Nightwing. Once there is only one thug left, he gives up and lets the duo interrogate him. Robin tries first and gives the typical Batman threat of "Talk or you'll never be able to eat again without a straw." to which the thug just laughs and calls Robin "a kid trying to wear daddy's shoes". Robin goes to strike the thug, but Nightwing stops him. "Let me handle this kid." Nightwing says as he grabs the thug away from Robin and pins him to wall with one of his escrimia sticks. "Now buddy; your going to tell my friend and I where you're boss is or you are going to learn what 15,000 volts to the stomach, crotch, and finally forehead feels like." Nightwing says in a chipper voice. The thug quickly breaks and says that two face is in the Hellsgate Law Firm office. Nightwing thanks the thug for the info, and promptly knocks him out with an escrimia stick to the skull. Robin makes his way to the exist, but Nightwing tells him to stop. Nightwing stutters before saying "Look kid, I know what its like. The feeling of living in his shadow and feeling the need to live up to his legacy, but you don't need to be Bruce 2.0. You were already a great hero and an even better detective. Stop trying to be like him. Please Tim." Tim pauses for a second, and then says "Go back to Bludhaven. Gotham is my city now." Tim says while still using Bruce tone of voice. The camera fades to black as Tim walks towards it.
Tim arrives at the Hellsgate Law firm office, and Two Face's dialogue is mostly the same except for him making a comment about the hostage Robin failed to save. This clearly hits a nerve, but Barbara just tell Tim to ignore him. The puzzle with the sentry guns and thugs is the same, but Tim and Barbara's argument is more intense.
Oracle:"How's it going?"
Tim:"Slow."
Oracle:"Tim. Stop that. You're not him."
Tim: "So everyone keeps telling me."
Oracle: "Good. I love you for who you are, and so did he."
Tim: "Yeah well that isn't making criminals fear me! How am I supposed to protect this city when everyone sees me as a joke?"
Oracle: "You want them to fear you? Stop trying to ride off of the fear they felt for him, and make them fear you by bringing down Harvey!"
Tim: "THAT ISN'T ENOUGH! BRUCE WOULD HAVE HAD HARVEY BACK IN LOCKUP BEFORE HE EVEN HAD A CHANCE TO GET OUT OF THE GCPD! BRUCE WOULDN'T NEED DICK TO INTERROGATE THUGS FOR HIM, AND BRUCE WOULDN'T HAVE LET AN INNOCENT PERSON DIE!!!"
Thug: "You guys hear something?"
Tim: "We'll finish this later."
Once the player reaches the hacking puzzle, Tim and Barbara have a new conversation.
Tim: "I'm sorry for snapping at you."
Barbara: "It's alright Tim."
Tim: "No it isn't. I shouldn't have let my anger out on you. You were just trying to tell me what I've been to blinded to see. I can't be him, but that doesn't matter. I can be something different, something better."
Barbara: "I'm glad that finally clicked Tim. Now let's go put Harvey back in lockup so we can finally get to that beach."
The final encounter with Two Face goes slightly differently. During the fight with the thugs, Two Face is firing rockets from the grenade launcher he had in his arkham city fight. Once the player defeats the last thug, a cutscene plays.
Two face: "So, the boy becomes a man. Too bad it's short lived."
Two face fires a rocket at Robin, who dives out of the way to avoid. This leaves him open to Two Face firing two shots from his pistol. Robin is now kneeling on the ground. Two face fires another rocket, and Robin is just able to bring up his shield. The blast sends Robin flying back, and shatters his cowl. Now he just has his Robin mask covering his face. Two face walks up to Robin with his pistol drawn.
Two face: "It wasn't brave coming here. It was stupid. You're not the bat. He wouldn't have let me get away, wouldn't have let me get him like this, and wouldn't have let me pump that guy full of led. Say high to the both of them for me when you see 'em next."
Barbara: "Tim get ready. I'm about to cut the lights."
Tim right as Harvey is about to toss his coin: "You'r right Harvey, I'm not him."
The lights go out, and a button prompt appears for the player to preform a takedown.
The lights come back on and Robin says "I am the night." before knocking out Harvey with a knouckout smash from behind. Robin picks up the coin, and Barbara questions if they will ever get to that beach. Tim apologizes, and says he still has some work to do as the screen fades to black.
FREE ROAM CONTENT
The screen cuts back to gotham, and Tim is once again sitting on top of the tower Bruce once stood on at the start of the game. Barbara asks Tim if he is ready come home, and Tim says he still has some loose ends to tigh up.
DEADSHOT MISSION- Deadshot has had a mental breakdown since he found out Batman had died, and therefore would go down as the one person he was never able to shoot. Deadshot has taken several hostages at the terminal. He says that he will kill them if he sees anyone who isn't Batman trying to stop him. This boss fight is nearly identical to the one from Arkham Origins, but if anyone (Deadshot or the thugs) sees Robin than Deadshot will kill the hostages. Due to Deadshot constantly aiming his sites at the thugs, they will startled and turn around. This forces the player to constantly be on their toes as they have to ready to avoid a startled thug turning around and seeing them. Once the player defeats Deadshot, they restrain him and can talk to him and the hostages (one of them being Jack Ryder). The hostages thank Robin and tell him he is already filling in Batman's boots. Talking to Deadshot reveals how far he has spiraled as he rambles on about needing to kill Batman and refusing to believe Robin when he says that Batman is dead.
Crime scene investigations- They are just like the ones from Arkham Origins, but with one change. The red evidence markers are removed. The player has to survey the scene and look for items/things that stand out. These mainly go to show something that the Arkham games never really showed. Tim Drake is a great detective. Seriously, he is literally called "The world's second greatest detective" and the Arkham games never even show him at a crime scene. Plus, getting to reconstruct crime scenes were one of the best parts of Arkham Origins and they were criminally under used in Arkham Knight.
Finally, completeing both of these missions before going to the bank will result in the player get a new line of dialogue after defeating Two Face. Instead of saying he still has work to do, Tim tells Barbara to start packing her bags. When arriving back in Gotham, Tim says he will be home once he does a round of patrol. Tim will finally be back to his normal tone of voice when he says these lines.
I have a quiz for you who has Batman fought in a traditional boss fight (has to have a heath bar) in any of the Arkham games (all DLC included). If you want to use it and don't know the answer I will email it to you.
Two Face
Harley Quinn
Professor Pyg
Scarecrow
Victor Zsasz
Tim stop that you’re not him🗣️🗣️‼️‼️‼️
The concept of Robin is made to not be taken seriously you supposed to laugh at Robin and that gives him an edge Batman doesn’t have I see where your coming from with your description of the character but I have to ask how much do you know about Tim drake, Jason and dick outside the Arkham games?
The way the Arkham series treats every other member of the Batfamily aside from Bruce himself is just so disappointing. I think the worst is Tim, and it's largely because the "Tim" of the Arkham games just isn't Tim, at all. It just feels all wrong, looks all wrong. That's not Tim. I suppose City's version of him wasn't too bad, but Knight just destroyed any chance of a good adaptation. WHY IS HE BALD. This happens so often with Tim specifically, he gets shafted and adapted poorly. Just as another example, Young Justice Animated is a great show... divorced from being an adaptation of Young Justice, a great comic run, of which Tim is a main character, a founder of the team. And then in the show they replace him with Dick's Robin as the "Bat" member until season 2. And then they hardly use him. Stop giving Tim the shaft!
(And the others too, I just wanted to rant about Tim specifically here)
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I feel like Robin's character in general was a missed opportunity in Arkham Knight. He feels inferior to Batman and that's honestly a great motivation for him to prove himself further. He already proved that with his backstoy; tracking Batman down with his own self taught detective skills but I wanted more. So, I thought the story was going to take a dark turn in the main campaign and maybe considering many people didnt like how it turned out, hear me out on my perspective...
That scene when Batman and Robin witness the death of Henry by his own hand, Robin realizes Batman is the last Joker. Batman walks into the cell at Robin's request and we get another flashback revealing Jason's torture. And as it turned out, Batman never walked in, he had a vision and wanted to keep Robin safe by locking him in the cell. However...
I feel the story could've benefited and surpassed everyone's expectations if Batman really was in the cell and Robin runs out to fight the militia surrounding their base. We spend a great amount of time playing and relating to Robin as he proves himself further to Batman that he could handle his own like he was trained. Eventually, he'd "learn the truth about Barbra" and his emotions get in the way during HIS fight with the Arkham Knight, leading to Robin's capture being taken to Arkham Asylum and finds out Batman was taken there too after a psychological breakdown in his cell (from worrying about Robin and turning into Joker). And instead of there being just Scarecrow and Arkham Knight, there's an army there too. Batman and Robin are told the truth about Barbra, Jason reveals himself to be the Arkham Knight, and Scarecrow reveals Bruce Wayne under the cowl to the world. The Joker taking over sequence plays out as it does and Bruce rejects and overcomes his fear. And either Gordon or Nightwing breaks Batman and Robin from their restraints. Big fight in the Asylum breaks out, defeating Scarecrow with his own fear toxin and Batman reaching out to Jason for a second chance (mirroring the Joker scene from 'Under the Red Hood') Jason dissappears after Batman tells Alfred. And then finally Batman and Robin take Scarecrow in to the GCPD.
Kinda clunky but I'm going off the top of my head and missing a few story beats that could be added in anywhere. But I would've loved if we got to play Robin after the cell scene. If it was real. What does everyone think about my vision for an alternative piece for the campaign story?
honestly, all of them shoulda been like the batgirl dlc and revealed a part of what the end scene meant in each one imo
Well Two Face was also disappointing all around in Arkham Knight, treated like a dumb regular thug who goes down with a single strike...
I mean, he IS a regular guy who goes down in a single strike.
@@wiggard He's not a regular guy, he's a well placed super villain with super strength and combat skills, he can't be weaker than Harley Quinn or Black Mask, he's not the Penguin or Mad Hatter c'mon
@@chojinkid Two Face doesn't have super strength LMAOOOOOO what the fuck are you talking about
I can list you two missed opritunity's of the Arkham verse. Having Dick and Barbra as a couple and having Barbra as Batgirl!
i feel like this dlc was just filler
i have one question why is he bald?
Shave
5:00 it was never Batman's intention to be arrested at his campain rally.
First one to watch
Hey first
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