The lack of cb depth is THE reason to bench him. Make him hurt his peers w/ his selfishness. Worse chance to play good d when you have to play backups. To have to play a backup over a starter due to effort is sure to garner side eye from the rest of the d. That’s how you hold people accountable. If “culture” is as important as they claim it is, benching him is a must imo
I agree, you have to give 100percent effort at this level and plus I'm not sold on him I like Phillips now he competes but you have to send a message period!!!
It's the first time i saw the Banks play. From the way it was described i thought it was overblown. I thought it was much closer to the sideline. This was a total fail from beginning to end. Bench him
Well, hopefully you've learned not to believe everything the media says without question. Hopefully you've learned to think for yourself, and do your own research. Good job, buddy!
@@vtjake3761 media, you mean this channel and others like fireside and talkin g? Someone reported that banks pulled up cause he thought hurts was going out of bounds. Someone quoted him to that effect, too, and no one contradicted that description. With today's rules, if you cough on a QB when he's near the sidelines they'll throw the flag and fine you a game check. So I was waiting to see the play that got everyone so upset, and it wasn't anywhere near the sidelines, and he was jogging long before the contact point. Which is why I reserved comment till I SAW the play. So you's can take your sarcasm, and shove it.
Eagle fan here.... number 3 on one of the TUSH PUSHES... Banks was standing off to the side like " i dont wanna any part of that" 3 had a realllllllllly bad day and showed no heart at all..... glad we drafted Quinyon and DeJean... 2 complete DOGS
@PopePlatinumBeats go away. Eagle fans are awegul just like sinister coach. Back in the day, that tush push would be illegal. Ig gives the offense an unfair advantage. However, jumping over a player to block a kick is illegal. Why don't you push yourself out of our chat. By the way you havnt been close lately tush pusher
The Hurts scramble gets all the attention, but I thought the Barkley run where Banks paces the play for like 20-30 yards on the right without even making any attempt to get in there and help tackle was egregiously worse from an effort standpoint. At least on the Hurts play he had one chance to make a play and didn’t put in the effort. On the Barkley run, he had all day long to try to help and couldn’t be bothered at any point.
I mean it’s hard to really muster up any benching energy, when the offense and qb is just so awful, and the qb is not benched. U bench jones than you bench banks.
@forgamessam8409 I understand your point, but this is a totally different issue. This is an "I don't care" issue. You can't have have players disrespecting the team and fans. The offense stinks, and I'm not against benching Jones. We can't afford him to get hurt cause of his stupid injury clause will kick in. I think it's 50 million next yr if he gets hurt and out for the season. I was afraid this would happen and it has come to this decision. Both need to sit.
Banks behavior speaks to a larger issue with the offense under Daboll. The culture is what we're talking about and the Oline is also underperforming, same with dropped passes. This all leads to lack of leadership from Daboll. I can see Kafka replacing Daboll at some point for the remainder of the season.
if i could make a small suggestion, i think you should try uploading the film breakdowns further apart from each other. maybe one on monday and one on tuesday. idk what your upload schedule is but breaking them up should get both more attention, instead of uploading both at the same time. i feel like that motivates people to pick one and miss the other. just a thought, love the pod!
They are playing the Panthers, whom the Commanders destroyed with Mariota. A series or a quarter benching is doable and the Giants still demolish the panthers
It’s simple: Parcells nor Coughlin would have put up with this sh!t and benched his a$$ for AT LEAST one game. Either he gets on-board or his a$$ is gone!
HIT THE LIKE BUTTON! OR DANIEL JONES WILL CONTINUE TO TAKE SNAPS AS QB1!☠️☠️☠️☠️ I can't thank you guys enough for this. It's so bad it has to suck all the fun out of this for you. I'm so sick of this. It's been so bad for so long. It's actually unbelievable. That game against Philly was an f*cking JOKE! The fact they couldn't set an edge to save their lives when it came to Saquon who we OBVIOUSLY ALL KNEW was going to be used as weapon #1 against us. We looked totally unprepared outside the scaks pur studs routinely get. I gave DJ his fair shake. Longer than most I held out hope. That was dashed last year, and this season has only proved us all right. Daniel Jones has major skills limitations and limited processing speed. No news there but I'm finally really questioning Daboll. Marching Ezudu out there. The fact we can't function if Andrew Thomas isn't out there. I HATE PHILADELPHIA. I HATE THE EAGLES so much that I hate Philadelphia as a city. I'm so sick of eagles fans CONTINUOUSLY rubbing our noses in defeat and folly. And I hear nothing out of Daboll that makes me optimistic. I've refused free tickets to opening game. I hate Metlife Stadium as it is so imagine being there for shit show. I'm droning. I'm just pissed and sick of this franchise destroying its own legacy. Things need to change. I just really want to see this offensive scheme with the "right guy" at the helm before blowing everything up like some want.
@tdmidas... totally different. Banks lack of effort and disrespect for his coach, he needs to sit. Jones needs to sit because of his play. Please don't compare Banks' attitude with Jones. Sorry dude wrong comparison
@bruce5402 I get the difference but I'm talking the teams emotions towards daboll. Banks effort was piss poor and shouldn't be tolerated, but in the grand scheme of things Jones takes the heart outta this defense. Jones is the reason the defense stops giving 100%. Forced 7 punts in the first quarter and we didn't sniff a first down
So disrespectful to compare a playoff winning QB who is the absolute pinnacle of hard work & resiliency to a dime a dozen young corner with a maturity problem. Idgaf what you think of Jones.
I don’t support benching anyone other than Jones right now. Who has carried out more of their duties- Banks or Jones? If I was a defensive player I would also be pissed about this guy starting and making 10 times more than me
@@Dylan-xs7lo You made that point that you would be mad if he made 10x more than yourself, and I just added that most QBs (even 1st round rookies) make more than most of the team. Minus the big time veterans of course
Deonte Banks plays like a punk! For two seasons I’ve watched him look scared to make a tackle. This man somehow managed to fool football people along the way to the NFL. I only watched him as a Giant cause that who I root for. I haven’t been impressed with him not once. In fact the two previous weeks before the Philly game after he was called out by his DB coach I thought I saw something that proved me wrong. He just isn’t a tough guy he looks scared, he’s better off taking the money and retiring. He SUCKS
Have you guys seen any coverage snaps from Phillips? Are teams not targeting him because he blankets his responsibility? Seems like all of his plays are on run stops or swarming to tackle from zone.
It’s hilarious that 2 pretend football analysts think that Banks letting a guy get an extra 2. yards is the problem with this team. This podcast is proof that IQ isn’t cumulative; You lose 28-3 and you get too buffoons talking about Deonte Banks not making a tackle.
The Giants won’t have a winning season until Nick removes the hairy caterpillar from his lip. That’s right The Giants are cursed by a hilarious moustache 🤪
There's been a lot of bad faith discourse regarding Banks and somehow Nabers(these same people proceed to coddle DJ). Appreciate y'all for the grounded reasoning.
Your boy Banks got benched last night for dogging in again. We know why you support him, has nothing to do with his play, everything to do with his skin color.
If the goal is to win the game, what Banks did (or didn't do) made no difference whatsoever. The game was out of reach. The ball carrier went out of bounds anyway. Ha. I'm in my 60s, and apparently, I think like a Gen Z.
I dont care how short we are at CB, that dont care effort is worth at least 1 game suspended. He doesnt care and i dont care to watch.
Difference is you’re not getting paid 13.5 m’s to watch.
Get this loser kid on the bench until he works his way off
The lack of cb depth is THE reason to bench him. Make him hurt his peers w/ his selfishness. Worse chance to play good d when you have to play backups. To have to play a backup over a starter due to effort is sure to garner side eye from the rest of the d. That’s how you hold people accountable. If “culture” is as important as they claim it is, benching him is a must imo
Great point.
Ryan Clark also shouted out dru Phillips after like 2-3 weeks into the season
As an Eagles fan, I love that the Giants used a first round pick on a guy that just doesn’t give a damn 😂
I agree, you have to give 100percent effort at this level and plus I'm not sold on him I like Phillips now he competes but you have to send a message period!!!
It's the first time i saw the Banks play. From the way it was described i thought it was overblown. I thought it was much closer to the sideline. This was a total fail from beginning to end. Bench him
Well, hopefully you've learned not to believe everything the media says without question. Hopefully you've learned to think for yourself, and do your own research. Good job, buddy!
@@vtjake3761 media, you mean this channel and others like fireside and talkin g? Someone reported that banks pulled up cause he thought hurts was going out of bounds. Someone quoted him to that effect, too, and no one contradicted that description. With today's rules, if you cough on a QB when he's near the sidelines they'll throw the flag and fine you a game check.
So I was waiting to see the play that got everyone so upset, and it wasn't anywhere near the sidelines, and he was jogging long before the contact point. Which is why I reserved comment till I SAW the play. So you's can take your sarcasm, and shove it.
Eagle fan here.... number 3 on one of the TUSH PUSHES... Banks was standing off to the side like " i dont wanna any part of that" 3 had a realllllllllly bad day and showed no heart at all..... glad we drafted Quinyon and DeJean... 2 complete DOGS
its early and all 3 will change with experience.
@PopePlatinumBeats go away. Eagle fans are awegul just like sinister coach. Back in the day, that tush push would be illegal. Ig gives the offense an unfair advantage. However, jumping over a player to block a kick is illegal. Why don't you push yourself out of our chat. By the way you havnt been close lately tush pusher
Tae is from a different draft class.. weird comment from an eagles fan on a giants channel
@PopePlatinumBeats go away sore winner
Joey Porter Jr was there for the taking. Joe Shame decided giving up a 5th & taking Banks was the better choice.
Nice job guys!
I saw it when it happened and was livid. I would still bench him lack of effort
The players finally want to see accountability for Jones, and I agree.
Good stuff
Screw that, bench him the whole game
The Hurts scramble gets all the attention, but I thought the Barkley run where Banks paces the play for like 20-30 yards on the right without even making any attempt to get in there and help tackle was egregiously worse from an effort standpoint. At least on the Hurts play he had one chance to make a play and didn’t put in the effort. On the Barkley run, he had all day long to try to help and couldn’t be bothered at any point.
One could only hope.
I mean it’s hard to really muster up any benching energy, when the offense and qb is just so awful, and the qb is not benched. U bench jones than you bench banks.
@forgamessam8409 I understand your point, but this is a totally different issue. This is an "I don't care" issue. You can't have have players disrespecting the team and fans. The offense stinks, and I'm not against benching Jones. We can't afford him to get hurt cause of his stupid injury clause will kick in. I think it's 50 million next yr if he gets hurt and out for the season. I was afraid this would happen and it has come to this decision. Both need to sit.
Banks behavior speaks to a larger issue with the offense under Daboll. The culture is what we're talking about and the Oline is also underperforming, same with dropped passes. This all leads to lack of leadership from Daboll. I can see Kafka replacing Daboll at some point for the remainder of the season.
Terrible effort from Banks, need to see so much more
Hey Nick, when you say EVERYONE knows about a barber shop shave, who are you kidding? Never had one and don't know anyone who has! 🧔
I was torn on banks or Joey porter,looks like porter might of been the better pick
Banks needs to be benched!! Unacceptable in this league or on this team!!! Guys thanks again.
if i could make a small suggestion, i think you should try uploading the film breakdowns further apart from each other. maybe one on monday and one on tuesday. idk what your upload schedule is but breaking them up should get both more attention, instead of uploading both at the same time. i feel like that motivates people to pick one and miss the other. just a thought, love the pod!
Interesting. Appreciate the feedback. Will discuss with Nick @bigbluebanter
It crazy because he was considered a physical Cb and we have yet to see it
Suspend him a game to start the tank
Another bad draft pick from Shoen what else is new!! Shoen is horrible and needs to go.
Banks needs to be suspended 1 game esp since he disregarded Henderson. Or u will lose the locker room and the fans.
Should of benched jones along time ago if this the case if daboll wanted to send a message in the locker room
They are playing the Panthers, whom the Commanders destroyed with Mariota. A series or a quarter benching is doable and the Giants still demolish the panthers
Another high pick on the brink of failure…..
Banks shouldn't be on the Plane to Pittsburgh.
I didn't know this shit. Bench this dude I've never seen this from a ny giant defensive player.
It’s simple: Parcells nor Coughlin would have put up with this sh!t and benched his a$$ for AT LEAST one game. Either he gets on-board or his a$$ is gone!
I'm hearing a lot of trade dexter buzz. Thoughts?
Hard NO. He is someone u build your D around and he is on a very team friendly deal til 2027.
Poor tackling , they like to dive... also special teams are horrible as well
Bench him for the rest of the year. Depth be damned. Start Phillips.
Where is the Banks poor effort play?
Bench him the first half
He kinda dogged it last yr against SF
HIT THE LIKE BUTTON! OR DANIEL JONES WILL CONTINUE TO TAKE SNAPS AS QB1!☠️☠️☠️☠️
I can't thank you guys enough for this. It's so bad it has to suck all the fun out of this for you. I'm so sick of this. It's been so bad for so long. It's actually unbelievable. That game against Philly was an f*cking JOKE! The fact they couldn't set an edge to save their lives when it came to Saquon who we OBVIOUSLY ALL KNEW was going to be used as weapon #1 against us. We looked totally unprepared outside the scaks pur studs routinely get. I gave DJ his fair shake. Longer than most I held out hope. That was dashed last year, and this season has only proved us all right. Daniel Jones has major skills limitations and limited processing speed. No news there but I'm finally really questioning Daboll. Marching Ezudu out there. The fact we can't function if Andrew Thomas isn't out there. I HATE PHILADELPHIA. I HATE THE EAGLES so much that I hate Philadelphia as a city. I'm so sick of eagles fans CONTINUOUSLY rubbing our noses in defeat and folly. And I hear nothing out of Daboll that makes me optimistic. I've refused free tickets to opening game. I hate Metlife Stadium as it is so imagine being there for shit show. I'm droning. I'm just pissed and sick of this franchise destroying its own legacy. Things need to change. I just really want to see this offensive scheme with the "right guy" at the helm before blowing everything up like some want.
Banks should be sitting out a least a half. Wont happen, Daboll has no balls.
He should be suspended for conduct detrimental to the team if these coaches are worth anything
If you dont bench Jones you can't bench banks.
Different situations but I get your point.
@@bigbluebanter1108Another number one draft pick. Situations? Get fn real.
@tdmidas... totally different. Banks lack of effort and disrespect for his coach, he needs to sit. Jones needs to sit because of his play. Please don't compare Banks' attitude with Jones. Sorry dude wrong comparison
@bruce5402 I get the difference but I'm talking the teams emotions towards daboll. Banks effort was piss poor and shouldn't be tolerated, but in the grand scheme of things Jones takes the heart outta this defense. Jones is the reason the defense stops giving 100%. Forced 7 punts in the first quarter and we didn't sniff a first down
So disrespectful to compare a playoff winning QB who is the absolute pinnacle of hard work & resiliency to a dime a dozen young corner with a maturity problem.
Idgaf what you think of Jones.
I don’t support benching anyone other than Jones right now. Who has carried out more of their duties- Banks or Jones? If I was a defensive player I would also be pissed about this guy starting and making 10 times more than me
Rookie QBs get paid more than most. Just the nature of the position
@@TheWildBrief Jones isn’t a rookie qb, what are you talking about ?
@@Dylan-xs7lo You made that point that you would be mad if he made 10x more than yourself, and I just added that most QBs (even 1st round rookies) make more than most of the team. Minus the big time veterans of course
@@TheWildBrief Okay, I don’t care. He’s paid more than almost every other QB in the league. He’s the reason Barkley and McKinney aren’t on the team.
@@Dylan-xs7lo I’m pretty sure he’s 17th in average salary for QBs.
Deonte Banks plays like a punk! For two seasons I’ve watched him look scared to make a tackle. This man somehow managed to fool football people along the way to the NFL. I only watched him as a Giant cause that who I root for. I haven’t been impressed with him not once. In fact the two previous weeks before the Philly game after he was called out by his DB coach I thought I saw something that proved me wrong. He just isn’t a tough guy he looks scared, he’s better off taking the money and retiring. He SUCKS
Have you guys seen any coverage snaps from Phillips? Are teams not targeting him because he blankets his responsibility? Seems like all of his plays are on run stops or swarming to tackle from zone.
It’s hilarious that 2 pretend football analysts think that Banks letting a guy get an extra 2. yards is the problem with this team. This podcast is proof that IQ isn’t cumulative; You lose 28-3 and you get too buffoons talking about Deonte Banks not making a tackle.
Bench Banks
The Giants won’t have a winning season until Nick removes the hairy caterpillar from his lip. That’s right The Giants are cursed by a hilarious moustache 🤪
There's been a lot of bad faith discourse regarding Banks and somehow Nabers(these same people proceed to coddle DJ). Appreciate y'all for the grounded reasoning.
Your boy Banks got benched last night for dogging in again. We know why you support him, has nothing to do with his play, everything to do with his skin color.
TRADE BANKS NOW
If the goal is to win the game, what Banks did (or didn't do) made no difference whatsoever.
The game was out of reach.
The ball carrier went out of bounds anyway.
Ha. I'm in my 60s, and apparently, I think like a Gen Z.
He doesn’t have the balls
Put Elijah Chapman in as CB, The man CAN run and he is VERY strong!
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He’s a punk. The Giants downfall coincides with their change of philosophy. They used to bring in character guys. Now they don’t care about character.