DJI + Long Range FPV : It's A Love / Hate Relationship
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- Опубліковано 19 лип 2024
- An exciting first look at how the DJI 03 video system handles long range FPV mountain surfing. My video freezes flying down a gully, I get sprayed by a waterfall and I push myself to get in as close as I can to the wind lip at the peak. Even with almost 1kg of li-ion cells strapped to the drone, a strong wind leaves me wondering if 3.2v per cell will actually get me back home.
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Video Chapters:
00:00 - Introduction
01:45 - Flight begins
04:00 - Approaching the waterfalls
07:05 - Snow bowl
07:45 - Scouting a gully to fly on the way back
09:35 - Final ascent
11:02 - Wind lip at the peak
13:45 - Second wind lip with a dive
14:45 - Redo - dive and line up gully afterwards
15:52 - DJI video freeze!!!
16:28 - You're beautiful but I hate you
18:10 - Diving the waterfall
20:30 - Home safe, maybe?
21:25 - Down to 3.0v, time to land
22:08 - Final thoughts on using DJI 03 for long range FPV
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You are so lucky to have a partner that shares your hobby. I imagine mountain diving to be so much more satisfying and fun with someone to share it with. Her hand on your shoulder was as beautiful as the scenery.
Ahh. thanks for saying so. Ya it sure makes it all more fun with us both being part of it.
You should let her fly from time to time as well. I let mine to keep her hooked
Yes!all say ,could it be possible to share googles with your partner,to enjoy all what you see?
Yesss give her some praise for us! For you! And take her out on a date to show her how much you appreciate her being there! For real!😂 my wife won't come.😏
I agree. I feel totally exposed sometimes when I have goggles on.
Another perfect long range trip, thank you for this. I love how your wife is your co-pilot ❤and supporting you on these trips.
Need to get the wife a separate video receiver feed on a portable monitor or some such to monitor the telemetry...maybe even aim a high-gain antenna too? 🤔
Miss seeing the osd but i imagine its alot prettier to fly! another fantastic video.
I think when you enable Video Subtitles on the goggles you can have the SRT file as well, so you can play them both having the osd too.
Thanks buddy! My SRT file for the OSD was mostly blank for some reason.
@@-exeCy- you can only record the OSD with the O3 air unit on the Goggles 2 or Integra goggles dvr. Unfortunately, the v2s handle the OSD differently and there’s no way to capture it 😢
Will be great to see a few more flights with the DJI setup as you push it more especially with how it handles break up, would love to move to digital myself, maybe one day. Great work as per usual.
I have watched this video 3 times now, and every time, I can feel the same stress you do. Please do more of this style of videos with the commentary. Its an incredible addition to the entire process that is long range fpv.
Thanks for the comment, I'll try and do more like this.
Amazing flying. Love the raw commentary and narration. Great teamwork.
The few high stress points that quickly developed had me on edge of my seat. Great focus and reaction.
Wow Falcon, this was amazing! Thanks for sharing. Your my man when it comes to longrange. Seeing you fly DJI this far out makes me finally think about getting my hands on it too. ✌🏻👍🏻
Ooopfh, yea the “freezing” and potentially “rebooting” is the main reason I use HDZero for my long-range mountain stuff. For years I used analog, but found HDZ offered the same feel/feedback with much better image.
DJI looks unbelievable, but it, and WalkSnail, both have variable latency/resolution, and can suddenly “freeze” and “un-bind” in bad situations… too risky for me.
Anyway, glad to see you experimenting, that stress and excitement is what we live for, cheers man!
Yes, well said. This one is really meant as more of a mid range ripper with it's 1500kv motors. But I always get the urge to fly everything to the top of a mountain, even my big (and very inefficient) octocopter has done some serious mountain diving.
@@FalconRadFPV yup, totally get it. You basically have to… I’d love to see you try HDZero and hear your thoughts. I’d ship you a spare HDZ VRX but shipping from Norway to Canada is probably more expensive than just buying a second hand VRX. Of course I don’t know if your Orca goggles work any more… 😬😅
Doesn't hdzero cut out too if it loses connection? Or does it get video back just as fast as analog?
@@lalilaloe HDZero performs the same as analog because the is no “connection” to lose. Like analog the VTX simply broadcasts a signal and the VRX receives it. There is no two-way communication or system binding like with DJI and WS which means the image comes back the instant LOS is restored. A huge benefit in my opinion. (I’m going to post a video of my favorite “lost video” moments to illustrate this point soon. )
Additional benefit, like analog, this means any other HDZ VRX can ‘tune in’ and receive your video transmission as well which is awesome for “co-pilots” and other uses.
Interesting to read about HDZ. I'm in the planning phase for a totally new LR drone and haven't decided yet if I should go for DJI O3 or HDZ.
O3 seems superior when it comes to distance (and penetration) on everything else I like HDZ.
Love your work, and the relation between you two. best of luck for future flights.
Awesome flight! Again! Awesome! Thanks for putting all the links in your description too.
Beautiful smooth flight my friend! Awesome!
Absolutely amazing footage! What a rig!
Awesome flight! And commentary. Sound effects are awesome as well
As always fantastic views. I really enjoyed the dive moment.
Beautifully entertaining. Your commentary reminds me so much of my own flying.
Stunning flight, Conrad!
Such a beautiful location to fly. 💖
Awesome flight. Yeah the O3 air unit image quality is sweet. 😎
Amazing footage. One of the best LR flights Ive seen.
Thank you!
That was spectacular!! Awesome job!! Thanks for sharing.
Thank you! Cheers!
Fascinating and beautiful flight
So much to love about this video! Great job!
Nice flight, it was stressful when I saw the video signal break up. You got some great shots there.
Amazing cinematic video, fantastic images. 👍
Amazing flight and nice save! I'll try this route hopefully sometime this year lol 😅
Beautiful and amazing flight!
Absolutely beautiful!!! Looks like an awesome place to fly.
Thanks for the comment.
Man those were some pretty sights. Awesome flight.
An absolutely beautiful place to fly and great co-pilot.
Amazing FPV video footage! Amazing couple! Subscribed to your channel!
Just found the channel and I think this was the perfect first video. Great and inspiring flying! Very sweet sharing hobby with your wife :)
Thanks and welcome
Freakin Awesome bro! Gets my heart pumping! I'm coming to fly there with y'all someday!!!
Awesome and inspirational flight once more! I'm getting a new Upgrade Energy 5200mah 6S tomorrow, now to find a nice spot to try it out. Beautiful stuff man and I love how you have someone there to be your co-pilot. That must be comforting as well as helpful when things get tricky. 🙂
Thanks for the comment, good luck with your flight when you try that thing out!
wow so nice....nature full on...thanks for that and a greate channel too
This view is amazing!
So lucky to have such beautiful locations to fly at. Cheers!
21 Minute Flight, absolutly amazing Battery :-) Gratulation for the wonderful Drone
Love that commentary! The video freeze was scary! 😅
Great flight, with DJI it helps to watch your MB in the lower right of the google. under 10MB it gets fun. Appreciate the live commentary.
Wow, this is an amazing video! So glad i stumbled upon it. Definitely subscribed to the channel ❤️👍
That was super cool. Nice flying both of you!
Thanks very much!
great to see you flying dji o3 finally and now with a gopro 11 mini! video looks fantastic! tips to further improve video: use nd filters, set iso fixed to 100 and also use reelsteady to stabilize the video (or gyroflow which is free)
I am sweating after that flight.. lol. Beautiful!! I wish o3 did onboard audio.
Fantastic flying, dude! Really nice! 😃
Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
Thanks so much MC, hope you're doing well.
I had no idea this was possible. I will keep watching your videos, they are amazing. I am watching from Honduras BTW.
Thanks for watching!
Long range FPV is so underrated, it must feel like you are soaring like a eagle. this video earned a like, comment, and subscription.
Thanks very much!
Isn't long range FPV illegal?
Awesome team!
I feel like copying this build! This is such an excellent long range build with beautiful capabilities! Love the video!1
If you do just let me know if you have any questions, the frame and parts are all linked down in the description.
Nice one! I have an o3 unit sitting on my desk right now that needs to go into something! Looks like a good afternoon!! 🙌
You won't be disappointed, it gives you a really crisp nice FPV feed, and some pretty good video from the air unit DVR. I really like flying with it. Just don't like the video freeze instead of break up.
right on!!
Another great LR adventure! 👌
Would be so great to see the Distance, Drawn mAh and the Bitrate in the DVR corner. 😉
I like your long range Videos!🙏
Thanks!
Amazing footage dude
Ammaizinggg keep it up bro !
new sub here :P this is amazing! love the long flights!
Impressive flights Falcon.
Thanks very much!
Awesome ride dude !!!
The most beautiful long range I have never seen before. The landscape is fantastic.The flight is superb, very smooth and cinematic. But the co-pilot is the best in this spectacular video😊
Thank you so much 😀
@@FalconRadFPVI'm not sure if i should get dji o3 or walksnail. What is then longest range u got from the o3?
awesome
her hand on his shoulder... lovely
Thanks, ya I'm lucky that we both enjoy doing this together.
Man, I gotta say, your flight was absolutely epic! Hats off, my dude, major respect!
I have to admit, I was literally on the edge of my seat the entire time (had a heart-pounding moment just like you).
What went down there? Did the RTH kick in, or was it just a brief visual hiccup?
All in all, it was a wild flying experience, and I picked up some valuable lessons from watching you. I'll be embarking on my own flying adventures with the Chimera soon, though mine won't be as decked out as your beast of a drone.
Thanks for sharing this video, buddy!
I'm eagerly anticipating every new one you drop, and I've already binged all your long-range vids.
Thanks so much! I really appreciate the comment. It was just a brief freeze of the video. If it went much longer I would have activated gps rescue.
Man, DJI FPV and RTH always make my heart skip a beat, especially when I'm zipping through the Alps like a daredevil. It's like, signal goes nuts, RTH takes control, and suddenly I'm sweating bullets, praying it won't smack into some rock. Your vids really drilled into me the whole "stay in line of sight" wisdom.
Now, here's the thing, DJI FPV's got me on this time crunch anxiety-4.5 minutes? Seriously? I'm so obsessed with the countdown that I sometimes forget where the heck I'm flying. Can't wait to switch to a drone that hangs in the air for a cool 20-30 minutes-that's the real deal. Your videos, man, they make me feel like I'm up there soaring with the birds.
Been on a binge-watch spree of all your long-range adventures lately. Gotta hand it to you, you're the top gun of long-rangers! Keep rocking it, my dude; I'm hyped for every new vid you drop. Those landscapes you capture are pure therapy for the soul. Big thanks for the chill vibes!@@FalconRadFPV
Amazing long range Flight on a amazing place on Earth.
Little Hint:
Use a USB OTG Adapter Cable and the App Digiview on a Android Phone or Tablet and your Wife can enjoy your Flight too.
It would be nice if you had a secondary monitor for your wife so she can share the experience. Great flight.
I really appreciate the commentary vs some loud music
thats pretty cool
Love your videos
Thank you.
nice bro u have a new frame
Ya, it's coming out soon. Been taking forever to get everything ready for it.
Another amazing flight! I do like how the dji gear looks, But I'll be sticking with good old analogue haha
most of my long range flights are still with analog. Once I'm comfortable with a spot I might go for a flight with the DJI setup.
Unbelievably awesome FR! I guess those video freezes come randomly! All you can do is maybe go with higher gains on your goggles or just pucker up and hope it cones back quick! Lol Cheers Bro!
I figured out your rough location, and for just the tiniest of moments the snow blocked line of sight. Analog would've just given a blip of full static, but these frame correcting systems get choppy or hard freeze. It's so unnerving! Been going long on Walksnail and it does the same kind of stuff. The only thing giving me enough confidence to reach out that far is iNav's RTH system.
Really loving your Falcon 7, by the way. Tons of build space, and that little TPU pocket on the bottom is great!
Thanks for the comment! Glad to hear that you like the frame!
Great video. I have lots of experience flying far with O3, both with V2 goggles and G2/Integra. The different goggles exhibit COMPLETELY different behaviour in marginal signal scenarios. G2/Integra can be run down to 5mbps and still deliver a beautiful and stable image, whereas the V2 goggles are in the danger zone here. The big problem with V2 is that when they do lose link completely, it often never recovers. This is due, I believe, to them dropping into low power mode after total link loss. DJI apparently did not test this and does not care. I have replicated this multiple times.
In contrast, G2/Integra recovers astonishingly quickly. This is rarely talked about and incredibly important to understand when pushing this system out far.
Thank you! Finally, a reason behind the extended video recovery time for DJI goggles v2. I've been wondering about this since I got my DJI setup. (interesting to hear that it's solved for the next round of goggles, typical DJI not to bother updating firmware for older products to work after bugs are figured out.
@@FalconRadFPVA pleasure! This issue is personal as it contributed to an expensive loss of gear. DJI denied that it represented a safety issue. DJI to their credit did a lot of work to add O3 air unit compatibility to the V2 goggles, but the hardware is among other things incapable of H.265 encoding. So the V2 goggles have a second tier H.264 implementation of O3 with various missing features. Clearly this implementation was never properly tested.
I have to say that my experience flying LR with O3/ Integra has been fantastic. It is night and day better behaved than O3/V2. If I fly behind a rock, it freezes but rapidly comes back. I've even managed to black screen it (surprisingly difficult), and the image returned after 5s or so. It's a fantastic system.
DVR was great (upon breakup ;-) , hope to see thst with OSD soon!
You did great handling the video freeze 🥶 … this area looks familiar. Wow so different with all the snow ❄️ nice flight + commentary loved how chilled it all was!
Really interested to know if you stick with DJI or go back to analog / different digital system
Hey buddy, I'll be flying with both. But in spots where there is any chance of losing video, I'll be going with an analog setup for sure. I'll probably use the DJI setup for more of a mid range thing.
Not going to lie, I am pretty envious of your setup.
nice!!!
Great flight. I stick with analog cus i like gettin sketchy and analog tends to give you a few seconds of breakup to reconsider your choices before it gives up. Digital seems like its either on or off, i like the breakup time before cutout because most times i can save it.
Ya exactly my thoughts, this DJI quad will be more for mid-range sort of stuff. I'll stick to my analog version for most of my long range flights.
wowoooo nice video👍👍👍
Thanks!
The video loss style is one reason I chose to order HDZERO. It just statics out the parts it cannot get and still sends you a partial image if you can. Image freeze and Walksnail's image warping would likely be distracting and take some time to register in the brain for me.
I was scared to watch you fly, your video is great, you have a new sub..
Thank you!
May I ask where is this beautiful place..
I watch lotta your contacts and I noticed you use analog vtx 👍
Someday I will switch to digital but I have seen your builds Do amazing performance with old school.
Thanks for sharing your Videos
great to see! Very jealous of that spot. is that the bardpole antenna?
I use either a bardpole or a DIY dipole for the vertical crossfire antenna in the rear.
Love this kind of content! Is it possible to setup so we could see the OSD? That would be even better :)
No, not with the v2 goggles. With the Goggles 2 and the Integra you can record the OSD on the DVR footage but with the V2 it’s not possible unfortunately.
@@SkeezyFPV Ah, didn't know that. That's very unfortunate. Thanks for the info.
Incredible fly, the next time could you record with the dji o3 unit and show the results please ? I'm curious to see the quality of recording
There were a few clips of 03 video samples in this video, you just need to watch more of it, you probably skipped past them or something.
Brave. 👏 👏
I think you should work with Nat Geo world for the nice scenery Documentary.
those shots are so clean.
Awesome flight man. Glad you used the O3 and liked it (for the most part). When you fly analog, you seem to use pretty good helicals - here you had just DJI stubbies and the crystalHDs right? As to my last test (now you're invited to watch ;) the crystals are just ok. Get the TrueRC X²Air2's - they are very compact but good signal! Or maybe use your helicals with an rpsma to sma adaptor.
I'm always so nervous too when out far. I like how your wonderful co-pilot and spotter holds your shoulder to calm you down and prevent certain death from FPV induced heart attacks - she's a lifesaver! greets, Mario
Thanks so much for the comment Mario! I've been thinking about making some DIY helical's for the DJI goggles.
that's why I have a walksnail? (just kidding, I have but I don't know if it's better. Can't be worse than freezing however). Tremendous flight. My hands and legs are still shaking...
You can use DigiView to let whoever its by your side see also what ur seeing
I just got the right usb adapter earlier that week and then forgot it at home that day! I'll have it going for the next one.
That cutout was super sketch 😅 I just got an O3 for my fixed wing. Very excited to see how far I can realistically push it! Analog for fixed wing long range just doesn't do it for me!
Just remember you’re gonna need an fc or use an arduino to spoof an FC to get the O3 air unit out of low power mode if you’re using it on a fixed wing or you’ll have no range.
For a better spotter experience I can recommend the apps Digiview or Wide FPV for video feed and TBS Agent M for live Google Maps tracking.
Or just run the USB cable from the goggles to a cellphone or tablet with the DJI Fly app installed and your wife can watch the screen. I do that for my 91 year old dad sometimes. I do put the cellphone in airplane mode though just because DJI makes me paranoid lol. Great vid!
@@SkeezyFPV No need to use airplane mode with my two recommended apps.
What a wonderful navigator you have. I feel like you should buy her an Avata so she could experience just a taste of that sweet adrenaline you mainline regularly.
i would be so scared to fly that far away. im tense just waltching you do it
friend I always accompany you in your projects and videos and I love everything!! but in my opinion for this type of flight the good old analog is what will always work, there are always cool news like the scare that happened in the last video but in the end everything worked out
Don't worry, I have one digital long range and 5 analog. And this digital one is more of a mid-range thing really.
That was very fun to watch!
Is this frame your new Cinematic Mid-range?
Yes that's right, the Falcon RPM 7.5"
You should be seeing your mbps. That number is the best reference to signal strength. With the 03 unit, as you get below 10, and certainly to 5, it will work but you are in risk territory.
Thanks, I'll move that OSD element closer to the middle of the screen so it's easier for me to see.
Great flight. Looks like the video froze when it switched channel to restore link? Not cool.
Thank you very much for doing these Videos! Do you prefere the analog System for FPV or do you think, Dji is the thing to choose?
Hope for more! Thx so much!
DJI for sure looks better the catch is if you lose video with DJI it takes a lot longer to come back than it does with analog. If your long range flying style is to get in really close to the environment and risking losing video then analog is best. If you have a lot of long range experience then you might be practiced enough at flying with no video to be able to handle no video for several seconds. If you are flying very close to the ground GPS rescue will risk crashing into the ground. When flying close to the ground you need to level out and throttle up before switching on GPS rescue.
Nice.. would love to see the setup
I'll go into more detail about it in the release video, coming soon.
@FalconRad FPV awesome mate thanks 😊
I've been considering buying the DJI Goggles Integra but have just learned that it's not easy to fit long-range antennas to them. Now I'm looking at the Goggles 2 instead, as it seems they come with MXC? connectors. I want goggles that aren't bulky so I can easily fit them in my backpack too. In the meantime I'm still on analog ☺
The goggles V2 are big and bulky but have the option to easily change all four of the antennas. But then ya the new smaller ones only let you change two of the antennas. I think TrueRC makes antennas that fit on the newer DJI goggles.
Impressive tbh. Agreed, the unit should light up the osd when mbs drop to zero as that half second could mean a crash. Random Q but do you know of an antenna tracker capable of working with any of the dji units?
No I'm not sure, that's an interesting question though. I've never used a tracker myself.
Amazing flight! That was scary when the video dropped out! Great save though! What FW are you running?
I think it's BF 4.4 on this build.