Just placed an order for my MYP and I’m a huge fan of tech and the future. Can’t wait to play around with the Tesla. This is coming from a gear head that’s owned BMW, Mustang GT, Dodge Durango GT. Electric is just a whole new world.
Old video but I feel it worth saying based on the comments. Regen braking feels like downshifting in a manual transmission. The different modes either have the feeling be very gentle, or much stronger. Another way to think about it is that the car has an infinite number of "gears", and the car "downshifts" those gears all the way to 0 in either larger or smaller increments but in a completely smooth way. It really is, in my opinion, a superior method of driving. you can charge your battery somewhat, save your brake pads, and could be helpful in slowing you down quicker if used in addition to your brakes. It's different, sure but I got used to it after a few drives. Now I'm a diehard
Thanks for the video. I must be sensitive. Got car sick driving my own new car. I put it on "creep" so it's in between then I'll get used to it and learn to slowly let off the pedal.
Good point...although I have to ask...who would be brave enough to teach a new driver in a Tesla? I am buying an old civic or something for that when my kids come of age lol.
@@GregHassler why 16? you can teach them since 12, its better for them to learn quicker and lose the fear. not on the streets but on a safe place of course.
Another great video Codi. Keep up the good work. Any 8 year old can figure out how to stop a golf cart without using the brake about 5 minutes - it’s totally different mechanics but much the same feel in the M3. Kind of similar feel when downshifting a manual transmission or motorbike to slow down using engine drag. All those feels are committed to muscle memory and become subconscious after a few drives.
All electric motors are also generators. You can use electricity to turn the shaft. But if you turn the shaft, you generate electricity. So, use power to make the car go, and generate power when you’re not pushing.
I had to move my regen to low to smoothen out the ride as well as improve my driving score on my insurance - app based assessment which measures speed decrease per second (
Just got my M3 two days ago and I'm embarrassed to say I don't think I can get used to "standard'. I feel like I'll end up with whiplash or getting rear ended before I can get my timing right on how much to ease off the accelerator. I hope this is typical for everyone getting their first EV.
How does it feel for you now? I just picked up my M3 today and I’m feeling the same way. Sucks they removed the regen settings. Im hoping with some time I get used to it.
I've added 4 miles (put fuel in the tank), going down a mountain grade, can't do that in an ICE vehicle. But I also lose miles if my Tesla sits for days not plugged in, while an ICE vehicle doesn't lose range sitting for days.
My question to you is... if you use regenerative braking to slow you down; stop you; and hold you at a traffic light - do your brake lights illuminate during the whole process or, are the cars behind you totally clueless as to you slowing down/stopping?
Going up a step hill the battery energy GAIN from regenerative braking is reduced because gravity is slowing the car. Additionally there is greater battery DRAIN from fighting gravity when accelerating uphill. Basically the reverse of what CF explained when going downhill.
If you get go the accelerator slowly, would the regen braking also slowly brake at first and as you let go more it brakes more? That would help with the jerkiness, if you can just smoothly let go
I believe Tesla designed this incorrectly since most people expect their car to glide when they take their foot off the gas, and only to brake when they apply the brakes. I was told by a colleague that Ford eMustang glides when they take their foot off the gas , so Ford got this right. If you consider how much energy it took you to get to cruising speed, many times it makes sense to glide prior to applying brakes or applying the gas, if traffic appears to be slowing - it is an important technique to save on fuel consumption, whereas, always regenerative braking is just plain stupid when you just want to glide!
Horribly annoying following an electric car with regenerative braking enabled, and every time the driver flutters their foot up down up down on the accelerator and the brake tapping is insane.. make up your mind. Are you stopping or not not?
What about while it’s raining? I was hydroplaning so I took my foot off the gas naturally, so it applied regenerative braking and I spun out. Did that ever happen to you?
When pressing the brake pedal the ABS system will engage and pulse the calipers if traction is lost. No ABS with regenerative braking because it is controlled at the motor and not the brake calipers.
Andrew Leavitt but does that explain my Conundrum? Once you release the brake, after you hydroplane, the car brakes, the one thing you’re not supposed to do. Maybe I’m missing something, but this Can very dangerous, right? In fact, i spun out. I might not be understanding your explanation, but any clarification would be great. Thanks!
Vamsey Palagummi ABS is active. ABS is smart. ABS checks for slippage hundreds of times per second and adjusted each individual caliper so each wheel gets proper traction or slippage to minimize chance of skidding. By comparison regenerative braking is dumb. With your foot off the accelerator the car slows and the surplus kinetic energy causes the motor to run in reverse and act as a generator. The regen braking does have some ability to adjust each wheel individually but not always enough to prevent loss the traction. I am 100% certain this will be addressed in the future. It may not be entirely possible via a software update alone. I don’t think the regen system controller is sophisticated enough to mimic true ABS. In the meantime many Tesla owners turn off regen braking on snowy roads. There is also another setting to entirely disable Traction Control to encourage wheel slippage when stuck in snow. If you are having trouble in rain just turn off your regen and brake manually to always have ABS available. Easy fix until this has a more satisfying solution
But how does the brakinglights reacts if i only use one pedaldriving? If i slow down even With one pedaldriving i want that the car behind me should now that i am Slowing down the speed?
Does this mean Tesla's setting always have mild regenerative braking? Because in some other EV that is popular in US like Chevy Bolt and Nissan Leaf they have 3 levels regen with lv. 1 being the the most weak braking and lv. 3 with maximum one pedal driving capabilities. Buy then they can turn it off completely to drive like any conventional cars. Then I suppose they LOW setting in Tesla feels very mild?
@@chezchezchezchez On icy roads at slower speeds and banked corners, any braking, rather than 'rolling' freely, will cause the car to slide. The last thing you want to happen.
What is the experience like for the driver behind you when on standard braking? Does it stop too soon for them, potentially leading to getting rear ended?
My concern is that the standard braking brakes too hard and doesn't give the driver behind you enough time to react. Are Teslas more likely to be rear ended? That has actually happened to me, but I wasn't able to ask the driver that hit me because the coward sped off.
I haven't actually noticed this to be honest with you. Since the break light is displayed I can't imagine it is any more concerning. It just depends on how bad the driver behind you is I would guess.
True. It's actually a concern for people who aren't familiar with this technology plus it is not a normal way of driving if you take a look at it. That's why a Tesla owner needs to educate themselves and learn how to use them properly. Imagine a hot headed person behind you would think you are brake testing them.
Can anyone explain what is in the motor that is causing friction to slow you down? Is it magnets or a system of gears that apply some stopping torgue. It must disengage when stepping on the accelerator pedel.
There's no friction at all! The way regen braking works is by using the motor as a generator. In the same way that a motor takes in electricity and converts it into rotational energy (speeding up the rotation), a generator takes in rotational energy and converts it into electricity (slowing down the rotation). It's all about converting between rotational and electrical energy.
@@Penguin-kr9do What I have figured out is that a computer applies a variable load from a inverter/generator to the transmission causing the car to stop thanks to this video. ua-cam.com/video/RSwrIUY3qTI/v-deo.html He even shows that there can be so much load that there can even be bounce back. I need to look up more about inverters and see how a variable load is achieved.
Really nice to have a car where if you have a leg itch you lose 20mph via a slam on the brakes speed slow down when you take your foot off the gas a second on the fwy, seems SUPER SAFE /s
I read that the regen braking/breaking will slow you at about .2 g's which is like a modest decel pace. It would be nice to have even more avail but...
I wouldn't want anymore than it already does personally. I feel it already can be kind of jerky at slower speeds. Maybe another option for those who want more would be nice.
@@Phuong_Nguyen_ Basically, regen is always active. In the case of an emergency, slam on the brakes and it'll feel like a normal gasoline car. You still have a brake pedal, it can be used at any time.
@@Phuong_Nguyen_ regen isnt to replace breaks. in an emergency you should be using brakes and even on a normal drive the break will probably be used.in my experience teslas brake fast but regen wont do it alone it just slows it down as much as this video demonstrates. please make sure to always be ready to use brakes
hop in your tesla and look down on everybody else on the road, your synthetic sense of security being in your regenerative braking tesla will clean you of all insecurity. and remember always listen to everything marketing says about teslas, for you, the sinless good natured human being spent 90k on a tesla to save the planet! Ignore the build quality, ignore planned obsolescence, ignore the issues with mined lithium, for it is your privilege's and responsibility to ignore the lesser individuals who still drive the carbon callused, dirty, and improper gasoline vehicles, those individuals may as well still be in the steam age with your indifference. You have the benefits electrical braking while they still have their silly standard brakes. slow down to a stop light with your special regenerative braking and roll up your window, isolate yourself from this dirty world. and breath in silence as you are the chosen one who got this tesla.
The guy said, the caruses the motor to slow the car down!😂😂😂😂 funniest thing heard. Not supporting un educated youtubers any more Who hasnt done their home work. DISLIKING NOW!
@@IPv4Address STFU dude, the guy doesnt know a thing of how it works he just know it works. Listen to him again, and thanks to you. If you wouldn’t have said to me to look it up, i would have forgotten! I hope dumb people understand sarcasms!
Yes grandpaa. Grandpas is orthodox and resistant to answers. He things what he learns over youtube facebook instagram is supposed to be right! Sorry grandpaa
Just placed an order for my MYP and I’m a huge fan of tech and the future. Can’t wait to play around with the Tesla. This is coming from a gear head that’s owned BMW, Mustang GT, Dodge Durango GT. Electric is just a whole new world.
Old video but I feel it worth saying based on the comments.
Regen braking feels like downshifting in a manual transmission. The different modes either have the feeling be very gentle, or much stronger. Another way to think about it is that the car has an infinite number of "gears", and the car "downshifts" those gears all the way to 0 in either larger or smaller increments but in a completely smooth way.
It really is, in my opinion, a superior method of driving. you can charge your battery somewhat, save your brake pads, and could be helpful in slowing you down quicker if used in addition to your brakes. It's different, sure but I got used to it after a few drives. Now I'm a diehard
Big Bear, CA going downhill made me go from 43 to 67 miles saved me from getting stranded
Hey that’s an awesome story!
Thanks for the video. I must be sensitive. Got car sick driving my own new car. I put it on "creep" so it's in between then I'll get used to it and learn to slowly let off the pedal.
Excellent video. I have watched several different videos on this same topic and this one was by far the best!
Glad to hear it was useful!
Hands down the best explanation! Thank you!!!!! Rented a Tesla for my road trip.
I feel much better after seeing this video that will be no problem learning to adjust how to drive one of these. Thank you!
1000 meter elevation loss yesterday, added around 20km of range, which was visible. Started going down at 200km range, ended up having 221km range.
If you're teaching a new driver in your Tesla, set regenerative braking to "Low", otherwise they'll never learn to use the brake pedal properly.
Good point...although I have to ask...who would be brave enough to teach a new driver in a Tesla? I am buying an old civic or something for that when my kids come of age lol.
@@CfTesla mine will be old enough when my daughter is 16
@@GregHassler why 16? you can teach them since 12, its better for them to learn quicker and lose the fear. not on the streets but on a safe place of course.
@@Ag89q43G0HyA 16 years old is the legal driving age in my state.
For me new drivers especially the young ones need to be taught using a manual in a 90's Toyota (Corolla) or Honda (Civic)
Thanks for the video. I have an i4 but this helps understand regen braking. You are awesome!
Another great video Codi. Keep up the good work.
Any 8 year old can figure out how to stop a golf cart without using the brake about 5 minutes - it’s totally different mechanics but much the same feel in the M3. Kind of similar feel when downshifting a manual transmission or motorbike to slow down using engine drag. All those feels are committed to muscle memory and become subconscious after a few drives.
I’ve only ever seen my battery go up a couple of times, one on a great big hill near Exeter Devon UK.
Regen braking gets many people car sick. Good to understand this.
All electric motors are also generators. You can use electricity to turn the shaft. But if you turn the shaft, you generate electricity. So, use power to make the car go, and generate power when you’re not pushing.
I had to move my regen to low to smoothen out the ride as well as improve my driving score on my insurance - app based assessment which measures speed decrease per second (
Another really useful one Cody, thank you!
This is one I hadn’t actually realised I needed to see until I saw it, so a double 👍👍 from here 😀
Thanks man! Hope life is going well for you.
Cf Tesla welcome! And check out the cf Tesla fb group for a reply 😉
Just got my M3 two days ago and I'm embarrassed to say I don't think I can get used to "standard'. I feel like I'll end up with whiplash or getting rear ended before I can get my timing right on how much to ease off the accelerator.
I hope this is typical for everyone getting their first EV.
How does it feel for you now?
I just picked up my M3 today and I’m feeling the same way. Sucks they removed the regen settings. Im hoping with some time I get used to it.
Big mountains here in Norway, very regular I regen a few % even 5% sometimes!
I've added 4 miles (put fuel in the tank), going down a mountain grade, can't do that in an ICE vehicle. But I also lose miles if my Tesla sits for days not plugged in, while an ICE vehicle doesn't lose range sitting for days.
See that is really cool. I haven't taken it down any mountains yet
Change title to “Braking” not breaking
haha oops thanks
Very helpful. Thanks.
Did they remove regen control recently? Mine does not have any options.
My question to you is... if you use regenerative braking to slow you down; stop you; and hold you at a traffic light - do your brake lights illuminate during the whole process or, are the cars behind you totally clueless as to you slowing down/stopping?
It shows the brake lights
Sure does. It displays this on your car animation on your screen as well.
There are no brake lights during regenerative braking - I get rear ended 4-5x every day. They need to fix this 😂😂😂
@@drdrew3 they had it on e-golf 2 years ago..
How well does regenerative braking work when you're driving up a steep hill?
Going up a step hill the battery energy GAIN from regenerative braking is reduced because gravity is slowing the car. Additionally there is greater battery DRAIN from fighting gravity when accelerating uphill. Basically the reverse of what CF explained when going downhill.
You gain when you come back down the hill.
When it slows down drastically, does it activate the brake lights?
yes
Thank you…
If you get go the accelerator slowly, would the regen braking also slowly brake at first and as you let go more it brakes more? That would help with the jerkiness, if you can just smoothly let go
My 2022 Tesla Model 3 Performance doesn’t have a setting for regenerative braking. Is there a way to adjust it?
I think they did away with the standard vs low setting for newer models. So you’re stuck with standard only as far as I know.
The display looks like its turned alittle towards you? Is that just thr camera angle
how do you get off the regen brake ? This thing is annoying. it feels like dragging the brake whole town.
I notice my 2023 RWD model 3 does not have a setting to change the regenerative braking.
So it’s all about not putting your foot on the brake?
Well done. Thank you for the info.
I believe Tesla designed this incorrectly since most people expect their car to glide when they take their foot off the gas, and only to brake when they apply the brakes. I was told by a colleague that Ford eMustang glides when they take their foot off the gas , so Ford got this right. If you consider how much energy it took you to get to cruising speed, many times it makes sense to glide prior to applying brakes or applying the gas, if traffic appears to be slowing - it is an important technique to save on fuel consumption, whereas, always regenerative braking is just plain stupid when you just want to glide!
ok so change that in the settings. That is an option
Horribly annoying following an electric car with regenerative braking enabled, and every time the driver flutters their foot up down up down on the accelerator and the brake tapping is insane.. make up your mind. Are you stopping or not not?
Thanks for the vid on "regenitive breaking."
Will your brake tail light on when regenerative braking is on work?
Remember that you must think about this one being an "add-on" because in other cars you forget about the brake
Can we turn it off completely? How to turn it off ?
I want to know about the dots when the regenerative braking is not that good I want to know how to remove the dots
Not a fan of the brake light always coming on automatically when I regen cause the car behind me thinks i’m brake checking
What about while it’s raining? I was hydroplaning so I took my foot off the gas naturally, so it applied regenerative braking and I spun out. Did that ever happen to you?
When pressing the brake pedal the ABS system will engage and pulse the calipers if traction is lost. No ABS with regenerative braking because it is controlled at the motor and not the brake calipers.
Andrew Leavitt but does that explain my
Conundrum? Once you release the brake, after you hydroplane, the car brakes, the one thing you’re not supposed to do. Maybe I’m missing something, but this Can very dangerous, right? In fact, i spun out. I might not be understanding your explanation, but any clarification would be great. Thanks!
@@V32-p This is an interesting point and I am curious to see what Andrew replies.
Vamsey Palagummi ABS is active. ABS is smart. ABS checks for slippage hundreds of times per second and adjusted each individual caliper so each wheel gets proper traction or slippage to minimize chance of skidding.
By comparison regenerative braking is dumb. With your foot off the accelerator the car slows and the surplus kinetic energy causes the motor to run in reverse and act as a generator. The regen braking does have some ability to adjust each wheel individually but not always enough to prevent loss the traction.
I am 100% certain this will be addressed in the future. It may not be entirely possible via a software update alone. I don’t think the regen system controller is sophisticated enough to mimic true ABS.
In the meantime many Tesla owners turn off regen braking on snowy roads. There is also another setting to entirely disable Traction Control to encourage wheel slippage when stuck in snow. If you are having trouble in rain just turn off your regen and brake manually to always have ABS available. Easy fix until this has a more satisfying solution
@@drdrew3 you can also press the accelerator slightly enough so regen doesn't engage but you also dont accelerate
Regen braking is straight up a deal breaker for me... Tesla please allow the user to turn it off!
Me too. That's why MBenz move this feature as hardware gear changes, which is very smart.
yeah i hated it but i think with s3xy buttons you can override it
But how does the brakinglights reacts if i only use one pedaldriving? If i slow down even With one pedaldriving i want that the car behind me should now that i am Slowing down the speed?
When you take your foot off the accelerator your break lights automatically come on. It displays this on the car animation on the screen.
I was curious about this too, glad the brake lights come on, that could lead to dangerous situations if they didn't.
great video!
Thanks
Does this mean Tesla's setting always have mild regenerative braking? Because in some other EV that is popular in US like Chevy Bolt and Nissan Leaf they have 3 levels regen with lv. 1 being the the most weak braking and lv. 3 with maximum one pedal driving capabilities. Buy then they can turn it off completely to drive like any conventional cars. Then I suppose they LOW setting in Tesla feels very mild?
Many people get carsick in the regen mode.
@@Dive-Bar-Casanova So?
Regen is one of the features that makes driving an electric car so enjoyable for me
Unless you're driving in the snow.
How so? Why is it so much more enjoyable than the feeling of breaking? Thx
@@chezchezchezchez On icy roads at slower speeds and banked corners, any braking, rather than 'rolling' freely, will cause the car to slide. The last thing you want to happen.
I wish my Spark EV had this much configurability.
What is the experience like for the driver behind you when on standard braking? Does it stop too soon for them, potentially leading to getting rear ended?
Yes that's how I feel don't like it at all if u suffer from anxiety it's not the best move for you
I got 2021 Model Y and it doesnt show Generating Braking in driving setting, can you advise me how come?
if your question wasnt answered, there are no longer settings for regen braking its just standard now
My concern is that the standard braking brakes too hard and doesn't give the driver behind you enough time to react. Are Teslas more likely to be rear ended? That has actually happened to me, but I wasn't able to ask the driver that hit me because the coward sped off.
I haven't actually noticed this to be honest with you. Since the break light is displayed I can't imagine it is any more concerning. It just depends on how bad the driver behind you is I would guess.
True. It's actually a concern for people who aren't familiar with this technology plus it is not a normal way of driving if you take a look at it. That's why a Tesla owner needs to educate themselves and learn how to use them properly. Imagine a hot headed person behind you would think you are brake testing them.
Does the dual motor brake faster?
Have you done any testing on Snow or Rainy conditions?
Yes lots. Search back through my playlists on drive challenges.
Can anyone explain what is in the motor that is causing friction to slow you down? Is it magnets or a system of gears that apply some stopping torgue. It must disengage when stepping on the accelerator pedel.
Sorry I don't know the inner workings of this. Probably a youtube video out there on it though.
There's no friction at all! The way regen braking works is by using the motor as a generator. In the same way that a motor takes in electricity and converts it into rotational energy (speeding up the rotation), a generator takes in rotational energy and converts it into electricity (slowing down the rotation). It's all about converting between rotational and electrical energy.
@@Penguin-kr9do What I have figured out is that a computer applies a variable
load from a inverter/generator to the transmission causing the car to stop thanks to this video. ua-cam.com/video/RSwrIUY3qTI/v-deo.html
He even shows that there can be so much load that there can even be bounce back. I need to look up more about inverters and see how a variable load is achieved.
Really nice to have a car where if you have a leg itch you lose 20mph via a slam on the brakes speed slow down when you take your foot off the gas a second on the fwy, seems SUPER SAFE /s
You watched the video right ? U can take it off completely. You don’t even have to use regen braking i never do.
@@MR_FN509 only slow and standard regen, can no longer disable it. even in the video if you look at the setting screen it is slow or standard.
@@Skavatar789weird mine still can be disabled
I read that the regen braking/breaking will slow you at about .2 g's which is like a modest decel pace. It would be nice to have even more avail but...
I wouldn't want anymore than it already does personally. I feel it already can be kind of jerky at slower speeds. Maybe another option for those who want more would be nice.
How much will regen braking help in emergency and high speed stopping? Because I looked up 60-0 times for Tesla and they weren’t that great.
You wouldnt use regen in an emergency.
@@CfTesla regen doesn’t kick in automatically?
@@Phuong_Nguyen_ Basically, regen is always active. In the case of an emergency, slam on the brakes and it'll feel like a normal gasoline car. You still have a brake pedal, it can be used at any time.
@@Phuong_Nguyen_ regen isnt to replace breaks. in an emergency you should be using brakes and even on a normal drive the break will probably be used.in my experience teslas brake fast but regen wont do it alone it just slows it down as much as this video demonstrates. please make sure to always be ready to use brakes
For snow/ice it’s aweful and I can’t find anyways to turn it off, it’s absolutely dangerous!!!
have you heard of the s3xy buttons ?
hop in your tesla and look down on everybody else on the road, your synthetic sense of security being in your regenerative braking tesla will clean you of all insecurity. and remember always listen to everything marketing says about teslas, for you, the sinless good natured human being spent 90k on a tesla to save the planet! Ignore the build quality, ignore planned obsolescence, ignore the issues with mined lithium, for it is your privilege's and responsibility to ignore the lesser individuals who still drive the carbon callused, dirty, and improper gasoline vehicles, those individuals may as well still be in the steam age with your indifference. You have the benefits electrical braking while they still have their silly standard brakes. slow down to a stop light with your special regenerative braking and roll up your window, isolate yourself from this dirty world. and breath in silence as you are the chosen one who got this tesla.
So pretty much like engine braking
So...no coasting?
Depends how you have the settings adjusted
I see percentage increase
Hi. Can I capture heat from the tire?
You totally stole that intro music from somebody
Or he stole it from you either way that song plays on two different channels
*braking.
The guy said, the caruses the motor to slow the car down!😂😂😂😂 funniest thing heard.
Not supporting un educated youtubers any more
Who hasnt done their home work. DISLIKING NOW!
Dude this is how regenerative breaking works look it up and learn something for once.
@@IPv4Address STFU dude, the guy doesnt know a thing of how it works he just know it works. Listen to him again, and thanks to you. If you wouldn’t have said to me to look it up, i would have forgotten! I hope dumb people understand sarcasms!
@@ssachinu you are 8. leave youtube
Yes grandpaa. Grandpas is orthodox and resistant to answers. He things what he learns over youtube facebook instagram is supposed to be right! Sorry grandpaa