TRUNDLE & AURELION SOL Meta Defining Ramp | Legends of Runterra Deck
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- Опубліковано 19 вер 2024
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Mogwai, are you doing Progress Day anytime soon? I'd love to hear you guys talking about the new expansion and the meta of the game now.
????
It s doom s day now
@@unkd7212 progress day is the name of a podcast Mogwai does sometimes
Yes please!!! I really miss Progress Day
Targon will have more solid archetypes once Soraka and Zoe come out.
Also, I love me some ramp. It's a shame it's so popular, lol.
Warmother ramp is still good but yeah, those top tier decks can smack it down
@@cye2310 i play aurelion since day one, and it really struggles against these very agressive bilgewater decks
@@yuginohyuginoh9544 that's good to know . Since targon came out this deck gave me a headache in ranked . 5/10 games is the same deck . Time to build some bilgewater
@@radumacsimov1759 if your main goal is climbing i will say Ash/Sej is still really strong in this meta. But personaly i have enough of this one
@@yuginohyuginoh9544 imma try Ashe sej then . Ty m8
My opinion on targons power level:
Taric's archetype is not strong enough and nightfall might need a small nudge to be better (maybe the cygnus buff will be enough to make it good). Anything else feels good.
But hush is annoying and busted.
There are still 2 mini expansions with 6 more champs tho
I think Diana and Nocturne are quite flawed, they NEED at least half of your deck to be nightfall cards, and then they need cards to be played before the nightfall ones... Not much room for creativity, if you play nightfall you go for Targon + SI. It's very static, kinda like Deep, you NEED bilgewater + SI to pull it off, the decks are always the same but 5-6 cards
I do agree. Some champions of this new expansion could use an improvement but overall I don't think anything in general feels such underpowered. I mean... Lee Sin is been out since Rising Tides and hasn't seen almost any play. That is what I call underpowered. And saying that Targon didn't modify the meta is so far from truth in my opinion. Trundle/ASol has been S tier since the launch of the new expansion for example.
You don't need to trigger nightfall to level Nocturne. Just run the owl and the beast, and the card draw that doubles them. You can easily level nocturne with only 9 nightfall units in your deck, which opens other region combinations.
*faint Vladimir sounds in the background*
Imo I like trundles voice when he attacks, it sounds like a trolls voice
Yeah I agree , I mean, he is just supposed to sound kind of dumb... That's the thing about trolls.
And trundle is a OG champion
ONE SMACK'LL DO!
He looks exactly like ganondorf imo
@Corpsefoot Gaming Well he's only the King cause he is being manipulated by Lissandra. Truth is he is not that strong without the club she gave him so he shoud sound a little pathetic. I persoanally think he sounds awsome like some warchief Olog from Mordor
I still like Asol even if everybody hates him I just love his Personality
HELLO RUNETERRA LET'S ROCK! Always like hearing that even if I'm fighting the ASol
B*tch me to, i love that cosmic dragon he its just so cool.
*b o o P*
Unpopular opinion I never liked aul sol in lol he doesn't properly fit in the universe the fact he's bound to runterra make no sense considering he a star shaping god and on top of that he's a snarky dragon the arrogance isn't earned considering he was bound by a bunch of sub species. In comparison to leona, diana, nocturne. Who all have conflicts and origins that is intriguing and fit so nicely with a lot of the conflicts in runeterrra. I was hoping pantheon would be in the first set as opposed to aul sol who honestly should have been added in a set rasing the power level of each faction as opposed to starting out with targon's mightiest being.
@@zarathos888 He is imprisoned in targon so thats why he is bound to runeterra i guess.I dont know why are you kinda mad about au sol he is a cute space doggo in both lol and lor
Targon isn't underpowered per se, the cards themselves are pretty strong, but since half the cards are missing it lacks synergy. You literally can't make a Daybreak focused deck since there are like only 6 Daybreak cards.
Its more support then anything
so... underpowered
@@johnsmith-fk7fw I think you miss the point, It will make them linear, like Nautilus only using sea monsters
@@Chickenning then you have to look at is that unique style of deck under powered or overpowered. obviously under
In other words targon as a region lacks independency.
it's 4AM here and Ive waited for this.. staying up late = totally worth it
same here
22:35 here ^^
@@bloodyynox2033 same
11PM here
Where you from?.. Malaysia here!!!
Everyone: Babbling Bjerg
Mogwai: Babbling Berkh
Mogwai: "Bit of a different outro today."
Also Mogwai: *then says usual outro*
Hi Mog I'd like to see a Lee Sin deck especially since he was changed in patch 1.10!
Yeah he will make the deck soon
"You were the chosen one! You were supposed to destroy them not join them!"
Anything for views
Why is everyone so salty about this deck? Yes, it's good, it's not the best.
I imagine its just because its a slow ramp.
A lot of people despised most Demacian Invulnerable Decks and even Deep Decks back in the day, and ASol is essentially Deep x 3 But more investment and longer build for bigger payoff.
Especially with Trundle being the best person to just outlast the beginning to get to the ramp, most people just try their hardest to break through the huge HP walls of trundle just to end up watching them heal it all back up with ASol + Celestials just being inevitable.
Me personally dont mind, it can be somewhat annoying sometimes but tbh thats the name of the game for card games.
Because it shuts down all the other lategame finishers.
Probably because he invalidates every other late game deck at he moment
It forces a tempo meta by outvalueing other slow decks
According to Mogwai, this deck is the reason for the current metastate which sucks a lot
Instructions unclear: i won turn 8 with a 11 Attack Trundle i dont think thats supposed to happen
thats also a reason this deck is viable, on not even crazy hands you can rap to 5 on turn 3, play trundle on 4, and prob play pillar on turn 6-7. Attack twice with trundle and the other troll and boom you win without you super crazy late game dragon/celestials.
13:50 if trundoe's voice actor is ever mogwai's fan. F to him
Oh Finally a Mogwai video! I just feel dirty watching Swim or Gappler right now due to their tantrum due to hush and asking viewers to hold hostage people in games...
(Well Hush does deserve a fat nerf but noone deserves to be held hostage)
Wait wait they really do that ?
For real? That's so scummy of them...
@@thelink9959 Yep they say that in their patch note review and swim just made a video of him playing that deck....
@@samuroot Swims latest video is him playing that hostage deck, him and grapplers conversation about hush is on their patch review about the asking viewers to take others hostage
@@veilsteel6118 wow, that's awful. Talk about cry babies.
1:40the old zephyr sages came out of their graves to say hello
Haters be dammed. I m sticking with the bad star dragon even if it ends me.
Thank god you put star between bad and dragon
@@purplelotus531 did i now ? ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Me to
Sniper Mark what?
@@purplelotus531 .w.
Trundle is easily the most well designed hero of the new expansion, but do you think he will ever be tuned down, however that might be? He reminds me of Sejuani/old Hecarim, how back in the day, you could literally add them to any deck, and it still be good. There is nothing about him that is too OP, maybe the HP of the Ice Pillar, he is just super solid.
I don't know why the Runeterra community is so against splashable champs as if general good champs are such a bad thing. I've never seen any other card game like this. It's crazy because the other half of the community is crying about how some champs (i.e. Nautilus, Diana, Leona etc) have tight deck building restrictions.
Sejuani and trundle are really cool champs to me BECAUSE they don't require you to perform backflips just to get use out of them. I still enjoy deck restricted champs, but it's nice to have SOME champs that are flexible..
Trundles really good because he works with big cards, that’s his limitation, but he also isn’t limited to any region.
And thats how MegaMOgwai evolved to MetaMOgwai
never getting bored watching these types of videos,like 4 real i've been eating with these videos playing on my monitor xD
I really like that you showcase a meta deck from time to time, I think you should do this once in a while. Good job man!
Lol that indirect jab at Grapplr in the beginning. I agree with you though.
Definitely Grapplr 😂
This deck was the scapegoat easy hate target for all the people that dislike the new expansion. It was good for like 3 days and was quickly pushed out after people realised it's too slow to keep up yet trundle and asol still get moaned about non stop to this day
Because 5/10 ranked games are against this deck . Shuts down all other late game decks.
I cant understand this statement..
Yasuo midrange cannot compete with asol late game.
Well it's not supposed to be able to. Midrange shouldn't outvalue control in the late game. If a deck isn't fast enough to beat a control deck by the late game then it should lose. Asol isn't single handedly shutting down other control decks either. I'm still beating it with ezreal and deep decks. I'm not denying targons or asols strength though. I just don't think asol is really that big of a problem as everyone thinks it is.
It wouldn't matter if asol was in the game or not. Either your deck is fast enough to beat control or you'll lose to control in the late game. A non-control deck should not be capable of reliably beating a control deck in the late game
I play Aurelion since day one and i agree with you. He struggles against fast agressive decks like scouts or bilgewater. If you dont have avalanche it s over. Yes, the aurelion sol player press the Surrender button sometimes, like anybody
Please, megamogwai, do you make a poros deck?, I love Poros, I play braum with diana and I win a lot(sorry for my English)
I actually think the format is more aggressive because of ramp aurelion
Which is why the format felt unchanged because it brings back a more aggressive decks from pre targon
That is exactly what I was thinking. There was a TON of A Sol right after the expansion hit. Because of that, people started playing aggressive decks to combat all of the A Sol, which then led to more midrange decks to be able to deal with both aggro and control relatively well. We’re essentially in the same meta as we were last expansion, with the best decks being aggressive and midrange decks, whereas control is on the backburner. Because Targon has no aggro tools and only has midrange in the form of Leona, it isn’t really seen in this meta. It just so happens that, because less cards were released this expansion compared to last, the composition of those aggro and midrange decks haven’t really changed all too much. This is especially because the expansion hasn’t introduced new champions and cards to many of those regions.
If you’re worried about one nocturne deck, although I’m sure you’ve tried it, try making a Demacia/Isles deck with Lucian and Nocturne, the rally is kind of insane. I’ve been working on a deck with them but I can’t find the right balance of cards so maybe you’ve got the answer!
wow can i see that :>
I've been experimenting a lot with Shadow Isles Ethereal and their late game combos can completely overwhelm Dragons/Celestials with Hecarim+Rekindler+Harrowing
I have a suggestion: many streamers/content creators. especially League players, like to post patch rundowns when new patch hits live servers. Would love to see it, even if its just a part of stream VoD from yesterday.
I really loves the way he said 'today and todayy' in every single videos..
I realized never take consideration what they say about cards until they are played. Mog and swim didn't think much of mindsplitter but it's very good
From the reveals, Trundle seemed to be underwhelming. Now he's everywhere with his best dragon friend lmao
I love Lux. I would love to see your take on the Lux Leona deck you mention in the Deck Tech :)
Love the content man!
Me encanta este contenido que subes porque aprendo infinito y siento que cada vez soy mejor jugador gracias a ti. Asi que decir mejor que gracias Miguel.
Un gran abrazo de un fan. 😊
Hello there,
Great video as always!! Any chance we could see an updated Teemo's Bad Trip deck?
Would love to meme around with that demonic Yordle!!
Thanks!
When you can't defeat the evil, join them.
Eh, with how much aggrocancer is now running around, the sides of good and evil have switched.
@@MrAdannor Idk why burn is suddenly back but i'm having a hard time playing against Quinn/MF deck. MF/GP can easily be countered with Shadow Isles and Targon deck.
That Vonn yipp Deck is very interesting.
Aurelion sol turns you into a god once he lvls up. You can do EVERYTHING. But yeah, that normally happens past lvl 10. Aurelion sol made Frejolrd great again.
When is the next Progress Day? (is it coming next balance patch?)
It s doom s day now, dont you see
31:25 bro i wanted this deck to win so bad its so unique and away from the meta :( dmn mogwai
This version away from the meta ?! Man, this is the mobalytics version, this is THE meta 😅😅😅.
I built my own version, and my version (without trundle) is away from the meta 😎
MF Scouts, Pirate aggro and Lulu/Shen ruins the fun of A Sol decks. People are always crying for A Sol but they never lost to these decks on turn 4.
If your gonna kick my ass with a nut hand I'd prefer if it was sooner then later. I can board wipe most aggro decks if I build properly. I can't beat a spellshield card generating free casting 10/10 space dragon. If you cant explain to me a way to beating an aul sol deck without rushing my opponent down then we have a serious problem.
Turbo Sejuani can also shut down this deck by reducing all units power to 0
Mitchell Davis Sejuani is easy to counter with the amount of Obliterate cards Targon has, plus we have Hush, but I’m expecting some nerf to it tomorrow so I don’t know how is gonna be. IMO, only nerf Hush deserves is stop creating fleeting copies, besides it, all the rest is fine for me.
Keith SI call of the war mother deck easily beats A Sol decks. It’s the only control deck that can beat A Sol just as equal. SI ramp deck have everything to beat destroy it.
@@hsilva0490 deep honestly can do it pretty well too from my experience. It's a bit tougher for sure but if they don't have the obliterate in time for your nautilus then it's gg
How many times do we have to say that Asol is a midling Tier 2 deck? It is not a problem and people has takes this over the top.
P.S: Also, this is only *half of the expansion*, we're getting 2 more mini sets with the rest of the cards coming of November and December respectively
I don’t even think there is really a problem in the meta right now, but the presence of asol is speeding up the game since he destroys other midrange and late-game decks, which leaves only faster strategies to contest it which is why the meta is pretty fast right now.
@@GhostOfAmsterdam69 But after the overwhelming negative reception about the region *as a whole* (seriously I've never seen so much despise and hate for any region as big as Targon) I really expect heavy nerfs accross all Targon just to please the streamers and the reddit hivemind (They are still making rant articles 3 fucking weeks after the release, and they just keep coming). We'll never see Targon in tier 2 ever again, lat alone tier 1, at least not with call of the mountain.
Jose Echevarria I fear the same. Sucks cuz i like the meta a lot. Many stuff feels viable and nothing feels bad to queu into to me.
@@GhostOfAmsterdam69 Yeah, I pick the worst region to favor into... Guess I'll go back to frostbite i after the 1.11 and remind people the real OP champion of all: Sejuani
I don't think tiers have anything to do with asol's problem. Targon has access to 2 silences at extreamly low costs, 1 is permanent and costs 1 mana, the other duplicates itself at burst speed, other control decks with high mana cost followers/champions get completely screwed by this and can't compete late game even if they achieve their goals before aurelion is in the board. Remember when karma was hated for hugging control decks to death? Me neither, she got knocked out so hard she transcended space and time and ended up in the elnuck meta.
I think its fair to say that this deck forced the meta to be faster and more burny. Mind splitter just shuts down most buff stacking deck, hush is hush, and when it reach late game you automatically lose to Mr. A 'infinite value' Sol
I believe targon is underpowered with some few very op cards like hush
hey, I'm not saying you're wrong since you know more than me about runeterra and are just better than me in general. from the person I watched, he was saying it was a LITTLE under powered, but the main problem he had was that each champ could play in certain archetypes and were very limited. he actually said targon had an extremely powerful card, being hush. just letting you know from what I watched that it wasn't that the cards were underpowered.
I think the problem with this expansion is that most new champions are support and can't have full decks focused on them (leona, taric, lulu, and diana) . We are than left with aurelion, trundle and nocturn. Nocturn is playable in 1 deck in the whole game (even nautilus can go in 2 kinds of decks), which only leaves us with trundle and a sol and it's already stale af. IMO they should've revealed *spoilers* shivana or victor instead of lulu and not lock nocturn in nightfall when there's like 3 good nightfall cards
16.00 I think Mog should've picked the silence to take care of the Wyrding stones
Mogwai most used Champions:
Lux/Draven
Katarina
Heimerdinger
Zed
Braum
Karma
Hecarim/Twisted Fate
Teemo/Jinx/Thresh/Maokai
Yasuo
Elise/Ashe
Swain
Lucian/Vladimir/Shen/Kalista/Ezreal
Sejuani/Miss Fortune/Fiora/Gangplank/Nautilus/Anivia
Lee Sin/Darius/Vi
Fizz/Garen
Diana
Quinn/Taric/Trundle/Aurelion Sol
Tryndamere/Leona/Lulu/Nocturne
*As of this video
Why play bjerg when you play dragon clutch and get them both for 3 mana at instant speed as well to be tricky with trundle. Or use it’s +1/+1 to make it asol level
I think that’s a decent card to swap it for, but at the same time, the 3/3 body is very relevant to this deck due to it acting as a bridge from your terrible early game into your late game. But ensuring that you get both mind splitter and Sol off of one card is also very good. I think if you use clutch over bjerg, you might swap out another card to act as the mid-game stabilizer.
I wish you played some more matches, love to see you playing
Everytime the enemy plays infinite mind splitter I get jumpscared cause those things sound so loud
Hey Mogwai I got a deck idea for you if you are struggling to keep up with the daily content! What about Anivia - Karma? If u reach 10 mana and karma is leveled up you cast Winters Breath (I believe its called, the 7 mana card that frostbites all units and kills unit with 0 power) to insta- wipe the enemys board with him having 0 counterplay. Could be interesting to say the least :)
i believe he already did it in his previous videos. He called that technique "Raigeki" 😂.
@@marciangarces8426 Its a reference to yugioh, The skies Descend is basically raigeki too.
Do more decks with ASol there so fun
what really tilts me about this deck it's how easily can outheal agro wtf
I wouldnt worry too much, someone will be built an even more aggressove deck at some point
Aggro is the least of this deck’s problem lol. They have enough board clears and heal. The decks that are hurt the most by Asol are midrage/slow control deck. You are too slow to pressure their ramp, and your late game will never be as good as their late game.
Yeah trundle asol is so good against aggro that it went from top deck to barely existing in a few days because of said aggressive decks...
And yet all the s tier decks are Aggro
Back to easier times, when the meta definiing deck could start playing at turn 10 to win. Now if you're a bit late on turn 4 or 5 you lose
Thank you for this video. I really needed it 😊
great match by u and awsme deck bro.
bdw Is Fiora still be playable as stand alone. if yes can u make a deck focusing on fiora more. c has been always my fav with yasou
#JoiGurugaming
I like Trundle's voice line
Mogwai could you do a Vi and taric deck?
Me see Mogwai
Me like video cause me big fan
This feels like a direct response to Grapplr's video :)
I think Mindsplitter stun should be a skill. Not everytime it resolves, only when he comes down. Thicc and Big as he is, his ability should at least be countereable by deny or bastion.
Last match against the b and n deck I lost due to a nabbed battlefury
right on timeeeeee baby
Have you thought about teemo? I really like the champ but I don't get how to put it in a deck.
German Trundle Voice is pretty nice tbh
THE TROLLS ARE GOING TO WAAAAR
You need to make a Legiolas Revitalizing roar control deck with Atrocity and the guy who buff legiolas for +1/+1 Frejlord.
( 1:03 ) ah yes my favorite archetype, TRUMP
Was he trying to say Trundle? Haha
"Targon underpowered" this is craziness.
A discussão que vi estavam criticando a att pela falta de possibilidades/falta de criatividade por causa de Targon ser muito auto-suficiente( com arquétipos de cada campeão muito fechados; Nocturne e Diana só jogam em decks Nightfall com cartas básicas, Leona só joga em Daybreak e na maioria das vezes decks são idênticos, com exceção do Aurelion Sol que é bom com qualquer coisa), e a parte do underpower é por ter sido lançada muito balanceada como por exemplo as cartas da própria atualização couterarem os vários campeões novos e segurarem essa força, sim estou falando de Hush e Obliterate.
@@joaonunes1086 Targon não ta lá grandes coisas não, os melhores decks do meta são os decks de Marés crescentes, Sentina principalmente
@@f3lcrow I think riot is afraid of aggro decks, nightfall is pretty balanced thou, in a Nightfall deck without Noc leveled up u cannot go face.
@@f3lcrow And they keep giving noxus more and more tools for aggro. I wish they had improved the self harm archetype and buff/give Vladimir something that could make him viable.
I love to see this channel have views
Trundle and Garen both have regeneration and cost 5 mana. But the extra 1 HP for Trundle makes a huge difference, especially when he has regeneration, compared to Garen. How are these two cost the same???
Is Involius Vox with 3 mana 2 dragon draw good? I really like drawing for Behold cards as well as use spare spell mana effectively. Vox can singlehandedly win midrange match-ups through dragon consistency and pressuring any units under 5 health.
Mogwai, what about a Trundle Demacia deck? Paired maybe w/ Garen or Quinn, a lot of rally, lot of buffs.
Always hated playing against SOL decks late game, they are just too op late game
If they heal twice you can t win anymore
good insight on seeing past the obvious stat. that targon is "underpowered"
Could you make a lux leona video? I'd be interested to see how to play that deck and why it is so powerful
Mogwai, could you do a poro deck next? Since with the new spellshield poro I really think it could be helpful in heart of the fluff
Mogwai, do you plan on returning to MTG when Zendikar Rising drops?
The new zendikar seems fun. Even if I'm hating on mtg for the recent questionable sets, this one i might go for .
Meta from Mogwai omg
I wanna see more LULU so bad, legit the most fun new champ to watch easily. Maybe you can find a new region combo for her.
Hey Mogwai ,is there a chance a deck of Nocturne / Swain aggro work?
I thought of this concept as well, tbh it’s very difficult to pull of because you only have 3 (2 reliable) nightfall units in Shadow Isles so you won’t be seeing Nocturne level up very often
Aurelion sol now has stars and a meta revolving around him...hahaha :3
Yeah everyone suck his stars now haha 😅
To be fair, I've been playing a lot of GP Sejuani and it's farming Ramp decks. It's not burn but it can go pretty fast if it needs to. (btw I don't think Aurelion is op, I think he's just overrated, cool deck BTW 👍😎)
Huh, so it was you ! I play Aurelion since day one, and Sej/GP is a real nightmare ! I almost cry everytime... 😭
@@yuginohyuginoh9544 sorry man... I really like GP sej... (btw it's really bad vs nightfall but don't tell anyone 😉)
@@saulon3065 ok i believe you 👍
I thought you were going to make jinx and lulu deck 🤔😂
Thank you Mogwai
I feel like the "Nab" mechanic is just impossible to balance. Taking your cards and playing them for 1 mana less just is just always insane value.
Trundle is definitly the best champion of this expansion, I can fit him in any fucking deck broh!!! lul
People evaluate decks based purely on how they "feel" to play or go against not taking into account actual stats or how it affects the meta.
Hush is not a problem
I want 1 hour long videos again
Yesterday i beat this deck with undead anivia this is my favourite deck
Uuuh yesterday i beat all anivias on the board with one single card : obliterate all enemy with 3 power or less. Easy 😎
Is Spider aggro also good against ramp Mr. Mogwai?
Like first, comment second, watch third, comment again after video, then rewatch later and read comments for the memes.
I like mogwai meta. It's refreshing
who said targon is underpowered?? It brought hush(which is getting nerfed next next patch), one of the most toxic cards in the game rn. Aurelion sol(also getting nerfed), only control deck in the meta rn. bastion, super strong deny card. Leona is really strong aswell. Some of the celestial cards are bonkers i.e. living legends. I think between the celestials, aurelion sol and card advantage that it gives, the entire region is for sure going to see a bunch of nerfs rather than buffs in the future.
None of what you said is true in real life. Hush can be annoying but in many cases it can be just a dead card in hand. Asol takes forever to lvl him up and get all the value from the celestials. Invoking celestials is also really slow and the 95% spells are slow spells. I play warmother Trundle and Tryndamere and i have won many games against Asol/Trundle. So no that deck is not the only control deck. The previous expansion was way more overpowered especially with the opponent getting all your buffed top cards in your deck.
Hey Mogwai could you please try a deck of dragons with smooth soloist pls?
I thought you are about to upload the Darius Aprehend deck