patterning the beretta a300 with winchester lbxr & indian creek chokes | bco review |
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here is my pattern test of my 20 gauge beretta a300 ultima with the indian creek .555, .562 & .570 with the winchester longbeard xr 3 inch 1 1/4 oz payload of 5's at 40 yards
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That’s rough! We still appreciate y’all doing the patterns so we don’t have to waste time and money. I hope everyone continues to support the page because you guys help out a lot of people!
Appreciate that man! We got some good variety of testing Wel be doing to cover all bases in the outdoors this summer! It will be fun.
I'm glad I came across this video b/c I ran a similar test with my beretta a300 20g with a UFO choke and had poor results with Win LB. I shot low and left but I had better results with BossTom. Not idea results but better than the Win LB. I guess that's why we pattern test. I appreciate the videos... keep up the great work!
Yessir! Change that tss load out and it’ll get better!
😂😂😂😂 Moose said “ those ten little guys are your core and it’s a hot one “ 😂😂😂😂
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Sadly my .410 with TSS shoots a better pattern at 40 than LBXR in my 12 gauge! I think you are correct that it has gone downhill.
A good 410 setup at 40 generally will beat or compete with any 12 gauge lead pattern, people hate hearing that but it’s true
Just made a custom 12 gauge 3", 2oz lead load for a guy... #4 nickel plated lead... shot it at 40. It looked pretty good.
I have #6 nickel plated. I bet we could make a 20 gauge lead load better than that.
I have 100% faith in you! If you load it I’ll pattern it 100%!
#5 only has 216 pellets in that shell. need to try #6
216 pellets with a good pattern performance will hammer em, personally I’d stick with 5’s lead over 6’s
I HAD A MOSSBERG A 300 WITH A CARSON'S 568 LONG BEARD CHOKE AND LONG BEARD 6'S SHOT LIGHTS OUT A 40 YDS. YOU RIGHT THOSE PATTERNS WERE JUNK SHOULD HAVE SHOT THE TIGHTWAD OR A CARLSON'S 568 FOR VERIFICATION!!!
Well this test was all about the Indian creeks side by side by side having another choke in the mix doesn’t make sense
YES IT DOES BECAUSE YOU ALREADY HAD VARIBILES THE GUNS WERE DIFFERENT, THE CHOKES WERE DIFFERENT. YOU WOULD USE THE PROVEN TIGHTWAD TO TRY SHOW IF IT WAS THE AMMO, IN SCIENTIFIC TESTING METHODS THE TIGHTWAD WOULD BE CALLED THE CONTROL. WATCH PROJECT FARM NOT ABOUT GUNS BUT HE'S THE BEST ON UA-cam FOR TESTING ANYTHING. I STILL APPRECIATE YOUR WORK..@@BlueCollarOutdoorsUSA
@@BlueCollarOutdoorsUSA REALLY WITH MOST TESTS THERE'S ALWAYS A STANDARD IT'S CALLED A CONTROL. IS IT THE CHOKES IC OR THE SHELLS YOU DON'T KNOW? IF YOU HAD SHOT THE CARLSON'S LB CHOKE YOU WOULD KNOW THAT'S MY POINT. IT MAKES SENSE.
Really hoping this isn't the new norm for long beard. It definitely used to be good stuff. These look like what the old stuff would throw at 50... from stock turkey chokes.
Right!
Yup that’s kinda what I expected. I’m sure it would be better with 6s but it would have to be way better than that. I tried Double X and Remington Nitro 5s and both were better than that with my Stoeger and stock choke
Double x 5’s if I remember from last year hammered in our 20’s Wel have to put em side by side
I hope the rest of the tests go better for you! Thats all I use is Longbeard in my 12 gauge in 3 1/2 inch and love it!
Well that’s a completely different ballgame right there
ARE YOU SEEING THE PUFF OF ROSIN SMOKE AT THE END OF THE BARREL? I ALMOST BET IF YOU DUG THE BB OUT IT WOULD HAVE BEN DEFORMED. MAYBE.
It could have been or a fragment, lead should penetrate better than that at 40 lol
I wonder if a modified or full choke would have been any worse? Not impressive at all, & I'm a big Indian Creek fan boy.
It’s just lead that’s all there is to it
That’s crazy, so what exactly is the Problem with the newer LBXR ? I’ve never shot it before, but this is not the first time I’ve heard they’re not that good.
They don’t pattern good or are hit or miss just not like they used to be
@@BlueCollarOutdoorsUSA I wonder what happened to them, is it the process or are they making them different?
Idk I don’t load their shells lol
@@BlueCollarOutdoorsUSA 🤣🤣🤣 too bad, then they’d have a better product.
I am not sure about that lol
The last lead test I did was with an Indian Creek 665 in 12ga, and that produced similar results to what you just did with lbxr. The same combo did fine with tss.
Hell ya! And I’d assume so .665 with tss is just mean, 12 gauges are kinda bland because a .665 with tss is going to kill em every time with any decent tss load
That’s why we like all the other gauges, it’s just more fun ahahah
Agreed. That’s rough. I was putting my money on 562 and it was the better pattern but still atrocious. Save up the money and buy tss. There’s no sense in wounding a turkey and that’s what those patterns are doing. Great video guys looking forward to seeing more lead for comparison 🇺🇸
We have tons of lead coming as well as more tss including long range testing & shot penetration testing
25 to 30 yds few years back I was getting similar test results out of lead Mossberg 500 26in barrel 20 gauge. Tss took it easly to 40yds. I had bunch different chokes and a bunch of different manufacturers turkey loads of most around 1 1/4 oz. #5 or #6 When I went TSS that was a game changer for me. I won't hunt Turkey With anything but TSS now. 🦃🦃🦃
I’m right there with ya man, there is zero reason not to shoot tss
Dang that's not what I expected, i still have a couple older boxes of XR my gun shooting them great, but didn't know they where having trouble crazy, Keep it going 👍
Cherish them older boxes!!
I've never got a good pattern with the LBXR 20ga. 5s and 6s both are very similar to these patterns. Winchester XX put up decent patterns for me with a couple different chokes. That's the best lead load I've found for the 20.
That is what I’ve seen as well
That’s rough! I think it’s hit or miss. I just shot a brand new box of 12 ga 3” #5s through a Carlson .660 and got 169 in the 10” at 40 and still looked good at 60. My buddy is shooting 3” #6 in his stoeger with the stock turkey choke and got 197 in the 10”
Well that is in 12 gauge that’s a different ballgame
@@BlueCollarOutdoorsUSA very true! Looking forward to the double x 20ga I have some of that on the shelf
Me too we got tons of lead to run through all our 20 gauges with every choke we can!
That would be amazing for squirrel hunting at 20 yards. 😂 😂 😂
If that 🤣🤣
I have a few different guns 12 ga and 20 ga that I have tried to pattern lbxrs in with the Indian creeks and none of them will throw a pattern worth a piss. I have the same gun you just shot I use a Carlson xr choke .568 and it shoot the same load lights out. I also have a m2 that shoots same load through a code black turkey lights out. But you can run tss through any of those guns with the IC’s and the patterns are awesome.
We have tons of chokes to play with these lead loads with I’m eager to get to work with em in each gun
Also have tons of different lead loads as well
Carlsons .565 turkey. Non ported. With kent ultimate lead #6. Out of a winchester 1300.
Is what I use for turkeys at 40 yards with a 20 guage.
I like your style!
My 20 with the jebs headhunter 555 patterns the longbeard #6s dang good out to 60 on paper. I'm confident with it or #9tss they both pattern good. I've heard people having issues with the #5 shot recently
Ya LBXR has been iffy as of the last two years
Looks like the results I got in two of my guns and all chokes. I have two boxes bought in different shops different years. That wouldn’t kill squirrels
Just insane to me what it’s become 🤣🤣
My Stoeger 3020 shoots 3" #5 Remington Nitro's out of the stock xx full really well out to 30. So that's my limit.
I dig it! And happy you understand & respect your setups’ capabilities
I've seen much better performance out of win XX #5s with the Indian creek.555 . That's just weird I guess long beard just isn't what it once was. That sucks because it was the king of lead loads but the quality control of Winchester has been shit the last few years.
I gotta do this test again with good ol double X may be the ticket
We have tons of lead pattern tests coming to the channel
I could never pattern long beards out of an Indian creek
I’m gonna try XX next I think it’ll be the ticket
Send it back to little john
Never Wel find something it’ll like
I know you will.I shot it out of my moss 835 in 6 shot for years
Mean combo!
I couldn't get LBXR to pattern out of my twenty gauge either with multiple chokes
That’s what we’ve seen so far with multiple guns and multiple chokes in each
One more reason that I would never use lead anymore, especially in a subgauge. Longbeards used to be pretty decent. They have really gone downhill.
They have, it’s insane by how much
I never liked a 20 and that is pitiful lead pattern
That’s just a pitiful pattern all of em, 20’s flat hammer even with lead
I've killed more birds with XX and LBXR, than anything, though I've been shooting and reloading tss for a few years now. That said, LBXR is not even close to what it originally was. My .410 shoots much better than those patterns, even with some #7.5 loads we made up, just for the heck of it. A few years ago, my old 1300 12ga would put up around 230-240 with lbxr #6, and about 180-200 with #5 (10" circle). Now, with the newer loads of lbxr, the best I could get was around 130ish with #6. Damn cheap game loads shot just as well. Winchester should be ashamed.
I agree entirely, very curious as to what the hell happened with them
@@BlueCollarOutdoorsUSA Me too. They know the only way to get respect back, is to create a lbxr with tss, but, they've known this for years, so idk.....
Factsssss
They do load herters from what I hear
@@BlueCollarOutdoorsUSA I hope their shotgun shells are better than their .22 shells. Herters .22 suck to a whole new level. Lol
IF YOU WOULD HAVE SHOT THAT AMMO WITH A CARLSON'S LB CHOKE AFTERWARDSCTHAT WOULD BE PROOF THE AMMO IS BAD., OR IT DOESN'T LIKE THOSE CHOKES.
That wouldn’t be proof at all it would just be another test but we’ve already done that test last year, with the same box of ammo it’s on the channel
Im here to tell everyone that number 5 in the XR absolutely sucks. 6 shot is better, but the long beard XR has went down hill.
I’m here to tell everyone they both suck compared to how they used to perform
Dang, those 20s are just pathetic 😢. Those 12s were actually decent yesterday. I guess you win some and lose some.
Can’t win em all!
Handsome Jake! I think it's an all around bad combination. Indian Creek chokes and Longbeard 20s are👎🏽. Patterns were absolutely 🗑. Stick with the tss in sub gauges. The 12 gauge is the only way to roll lead.
Have to test lead in every gauge we can it’s only fair, I would never shoot lead again but to not test it on the channel isn’t right
@@BlueCollarOutdoorsUSA I agree. Testing is cool. We owe it to the game we hunt to use the most lethal ammo out there. Lead isn't it anymore. Everyone can afford tss. Even if it's not from a custom shop. The Herters were great for around $40.
I agree!
You’re aiming at the wrong waddles… a little lower you might kill a bird….lol
Wondering if changed the wad recently? A tear down video of ammo between now and old ammo would be an interesting video.
Then do it up!