24 Frames Of Nick In an interview someone brought up their cloghes switiching and it's confirmed they wanted Ryan to be gay but Disney was obviously like oh fuck no. So they added that part in as a fuck you to them! :0
I realize that this song was most likely written to be a spiritual sequel to "get ya head in the game" but the conflict in that song is Troy having a hard time choosing between basketball or singing (Gabriella). By mirroring that with these characters and baseball, the logical conclusions that they are flirting is completly fair. Also we know that wardrobe switch was not an accident. They Fucked.
“There’s just one thing that stops me every time” *Cut to a group of his own peers* The only thing that’s stopping him is his fear of acceptance. He’s scared his peers won’t accept him.
Ryan tells Chad to “Hit it out of the park” implying he WANTS Chad to get a home run or in other words run all the bases. What else do bases signify? Ah yes the progression of a sexual relationship. Need I say more?
March Stars I don’t know if this is serious or not but it’s hilarious and I know in my heart is also true. They switched clothes omg please let them be gay
Pauline Eichner the joke is how much he praises the movies I think. But of course they are gay, the creators confirmed it was their goal (but Disney was like "nope" so they had to be sneaky)
It was probably the director (Kenny Ortega) and the actor (Lucas Grabeel) trying to sneak in another small hint that they were gay. Both the actor and director wanted Ryan to be gay, but when they pitched the idea Disney shot it down because they didn’t think gay people were appropriate for a G rated movie.
@@adareif4450 It is sad that things were that way. But at least we have High School Musical The Series where there actually is a gay couple and the protagonist has two mothers.
Technically, the sexual tension lasted longer than just four minutes and twenty seconds because it takes place during *the whole game* . We just get an edited version of this game, which probably lasted 47 minutes, maybe even longer.
They spent hours together, if not the better part of a day. - as rivals, not friends (remember this, it's important). You'll notice that after the gameday, the pair are often seen standing next to each other or close by, and share silent reactions to other characters. They became comfortable enough to share food, clothing and a verbal-emotional shorthand. In 10 hours or fewer it's very hard to become close to an antagonist in your life, but something so strongly connects Chad & Ryan in that short time that animosity between them just..goes away. So in summation, the power of Friendship(TM) truly is awe-inspiring.
Pretty sure when Chad means "there's only one little thing that stops me everytime" he was talking about his friends, they are framed everytime he said it.
obvs i know they're gay, it's meant to be, but I seriously wish that I could know if Disney truly meant to imply/add this or not. Like, WHAT DO YOU MEAN. WHAT ARE YOU TRYING TO SAY. Everything in this scene adds up, but then after this the whole thing is abandoned throughout the rest of the series. :(
the director wanted to make ryan gay but Disney was like "that is too iNaPrOpRiAtE fOr a cHilDrENs mOvIE" so I bet yeah the directors were like "okay lets *slide* this in here"
@FinalNinja I know. But he's gonna always be the guy from degrassi. Those 2 aren't just the guys from HSM they have increased their acting resume. Drake from degrassi is drake from degrassi. That can rap now
Disney: we don't want the gay scenes here, its not PG. Take it off. Director: haha. Try to stop me bich. Woops here's some sprinkle of gay, hers another- and I- oops they switched clothes.
Kenny Ortega (the director) wanted Ryan to be openly gay but disney was against it, but he still managed to make everyone ship these two! He's such an amazing director!
You know I was like 5 when I watched the movie and I didn't know what "gay" meant, but I knew Ryan had it. I was so confused when Ryan brought a girl to prom when I was little, I didn't know why I was confused at the time, I just was. I know now and it's beautiful.
DS not that young tbh it came out in September 2007 that was like 12 years ago that means if you were five when it cam out then your 17 or turning 17 now.
Adrienne Williams Yes. They were meant to be a couple I’m pretty sure but Disney said “what do we look like Cartoon Network? Fuck that!” Idk pretty sure you can look it up pretty easy. Also even if there is a heterosexual reason for it I doubt it was unintentional. How would you fuck up wardrobes that badly without anyone noticing?
"But Ryan took a girl to the prom!" So did I and I'm super gay. I was going to high school around the time HSM came out, you couldn't take a same-sex partner to prom whether or not you were out.
Yeah, and like another commenter mentioned, Kelsey might have been a lesbian. I remember her wearing some tomboyish clothes throughout the series. Might have been a genius move in a time when things like same sex relationships would have been very controversial for a kids movie.
When my friends try to call be racist for not fancying enough black people my mind would shut down and the strange relief and comfort i would feel when i pictured Corbyn blue But im not one of those ppl just they know how i am under pressure like that being called out for see things that are not true but aren't that deep yet its funny to see my reaction i admit
This is not something i would have ever thought to look for but im so glad youtube did. The algorithm might be fucked but not as much as chad and ryan were that summer
Disney: *makes chad and Ryan switch clothes after a whole song filled with sexual tension* Viewers: lol they gay! Disney: *insert surprised pikachu meme*
UA-cam: why did Chad and Ryan switch clothes in high school musical 2? Me, who has never seen any high school musical movie: they did WHAT?!? I demand to find out now
M. B I’ve heard and I’ve taken it into consideration but I’m too anxious to watch anything I’m not familiar with so I shall go back to watching Harry Potter and The Prisoner of Azkaban again and recite each word like the annoying bitch I am 😌
I had this lil highschool musical 2 book that came with a lil flip phone and the cast would "awnser" your questions. I remember asking if they were boyfriends (I didnt know what gay was at the time) it said yes and I genuinely believed those facts cause that's evidence
i think you forgot something important nick, where all the symbolism and character traits align with each other-- the colours of the clothes themselves Ryan in high school musical 1 and 2 before i don't dance has never been shown with a potential love interest. he has that innocence of not having experienced romantic love yet, represented by his mostly-white outfit. on his hat, he has black stripes. like fellow youtube film analyser "now you see it" explained, stripes represent a deviance in society and in film, to point out someone or something like no other. the stripes represent his sexuality, kept only in his head until tHIS MASTERPIECE OF A SCENE. the black could be interpreted as him trying to cast it into the void in his mind, feeling ashamed of his sexuality. but then he sees chad. chad who's so full of passion-- passion, represented by the red of his clothes. like ryan, he has that innocent white on him, though tainted by a fiery red (a colour that also stands for love) on all of his clothing, except for his white undershirt. it could be read as him having felt surface passion before, but not to the core of his heart, underneath all the layers. when they switch clothes at the end, i think the symbolism shifts just a b i t. ryan is now wearing chad's red and white, having felt chad's newfound love for him, knowing his passion. chad is wearing mostly white, his innocence of TRUE romantic love exposed for all to see, but like ryan before, the looming thought of how his sexuality might be shamed in society lingers in his mind. and t h a t is the colour symbolism of their short, sweet time together. -a not-so-serious-but-could-also-be-so analysis of their clothing by eyrist lee
This is old but legit the actor of Ryan wanted him to be gay, him and the guy who bakes were supposed to be a couple but they cut it out so in the bloopers they both kissed.
With Kenny Ortega being gay, Ortega and Grabeel wanting to have Ryan gay, and Corbin originally auditioning for Ryan, I feel almost certain that this was the compromise when Disney decided against making Ryan gay.
Cyrus wasn't the first gay Disney Channel character, Chad and Ryan were CLEARLY gay. Edit: I think Chad is bisexual because he does really like Taylor, but he also seemed to really like Ryan too.
This actually has valid points, though. This is beyond satire, and I'm not exaggerating. This is a fantastic video essay. I'm legitimately convinced they're gay for each other now.
I love how over analyzed this is, but like it’s true- like Chad is like “i’m gonna show you how i swing” or somethin like....ya know buddy, that’s a little gay....and i’m here for it
Please also note that the song is consistently "I DONT dance". Chad is denying that he does something, while Ryan is encouraging him to try-- "I know you can". Even at his most fervent, Chad never actually says he WONT, only that he doesnt. Hes stuck in this assumption that because he hasn't before, he cant-- but he never actually says he doesnt WANT to. He never establishes an actual rejection, merely a backpedaling from the idea because he hasn't before. Faced with "you could, if you wanted to", Chad cant actually bring himself to say he DOESNT want to, weakly repeating that it's not something he does, instead. If he had, the entire playful flirtation of Ryan would not have happened-- despite ostensibly being an argument, it remains friendly and playful, to the point Ryan is comfortable with sincerely flirting. If Chad had actually rejected Ryan, ryan would have backed off-- but Chad never did.
I think the reason Chad and Ryan never got together was because the movie was released in 2007 and disney wasnt about to take that risk so I think Kenny did what he could for when the movie was made/released
The line, “I’ll show ya how I swing,” is obviously Chad trying to convince Ryan he’s straight (i.e. the ‘I don’t swing that way’ phrase) The proof is in the baseball, boys.
If it in fact is a heart, it’s very imperfect and has a big empty spot near the middle. Many people might not notice it during the dancing part because it’s very easy to overlook as it’s not very distinct.
I love how StRaIgHt peopleTM are pressed about the fact that we want to have us a gay and possibly bi character in an old movie like y'all legit have about 8 other cast member you can still keep let us live a little, what does chad being anything less then straight make him unlikable???
No titan. People just find there a diffrence between wanting representation and thinking everytime two characters have an intresting interaction they must be in love. Same for straight couples.
@UCa3WwjWtlPKD-3YCi_0dv7w see this reply might have some to weight to it if I also wasn't equally critical of baseless heterosexual ships and if people also didn't costantly ship characters of the same sex since fandoms existed, but that isn't the case. The reason why we can't just agree to disagree the same way people do when it's a man and woman; is because whenever it is a same sex ship people like you go YOU HATE RPERESATION, YOU JUST CAN'T LET PEOPLE LIKE WHAT THEY LIKE, REEEEEEE, and then you allegedly cackle. I am minding my own business. My business is laughing at emotionally fragile shippers who screech whenever someone says there ship doesn't make sense; instead of simply shrugging there shoulders and continuing to enjoy themselves.
@Gabriella Macieyowski oh boy, first off saying there are hundreds examples of something without listing one of them isn't the best look. Second there's a diffrence between wanting something to be cannon, even if you worked on it, and it actually being cannon. Case in point, the head writers behind phineas and ferb liking Beaufort and baljeet ship but not making it cannon. Third, what if you're just projecting. The beauty of these speculation discussions is that when guess and claim until were blue in the race, but not of that equals confirmation. If people want representation, then they should ask for well done representation.
@Gabriella Macieyowski I know this might be hard for you to understand, but you don't actually have to use a term in order to reference it. My phineas and ferb example was me referencing head cannon.
So true, he clearly had a thing for Troy in the third movie. He mentioned to Troy to stop worrying about Gabriela going to Standford as Taylor was going to Yale and to focus on them going to college together. He said it in a way that he didn't mind that Taylor would be leaving him after graduation.
@@homiebob6160 Disney realized he had created two gay icons and tried to get them both out of the way by pairing them. My 10 year old self never accepted it as canon
Even when I was 5, I realized all the sexual tension in this scene and shipped it heavily. >Dancing is also a "slang" type of thing for sex and relationships. ("The Devil's Tango." "We danced in circles around each other.")
Yes! Like the lyrics from 1D's Best Song Ever "and we danced all night to the best song ever, we knew every line now I can't remember how it goes but I know that I won't forget her cause we danced all night to the best song ever, I think it went oh oh oh, I think it went yeah yeah, I think it goes..."
As a child, I was always confused as to why Ryan brought a girl to the prom. Even when I didn’t really understand sexuality or thinking about lgbt, I couldn’t comprehend him in this strange and thrown together heterosexual storyline 😂
Gay
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24 Frames Of Nick In an interview someone brought up their cloghes switiching and it's confirmed they wanted Ryan to be gay but Disney was obviously like oh fuck no. So they added that part in as a fuck you to them! :0
24 Frames Of Nick you should do a video on coraline, h20 just add water or power puff girls
Do you remember Stoked??
So basically I Don't Dance is code for "I'm not Gay" and at the end of the song it's "I'm not Gay...but if I WAS-"
Is this why baseball players act gay or do something gay they say no homo but continue to do it😂
All baseball players are gay, period.
Yep Eyep Baseball is a long game with a lot of downtime. If you’re not borderline flirting to alleviate the boredom, you’re not playing baseball.
John Dominique Cortez it all makes sense now
Also they sing "I Don't Dance" while actively dancing. So, you know. They boinked.
Insert
"There is no heterosexual explanation for this"
Meme
Where on God’s green earth are the replies
@@c.harlotte honestly
@@c.harlotte Cant argue with facts lol
I was like 8000!!!
I realize that this song was most likely written to be a spiritual sequel to "get ya head in the game" but the conflict in that song is Troy having a hard time choosing between basketball or singing (Gabriella). By mirroring that with these characters and baseball, the logical conclusions that they are flirting is completly fair. Also we know that wardrobe switch was not an accident. They Fucked.
“theres just one little thing, that stops me everytime” *camera shows chad’s friends* oh
now that is just upsetting that he might be avoiding it because of his firends
LMAOOO
Oh how great homophobia is *said sarcastically*
Artsy Sock oooop. Ummmm. nooo
ahhhhh
no one:
absolutely no one:
chad and ryan: *mating dance*
This need more likes
I’d like it, but it’s at 69.
I thought too when he said they were trying to seduce each with dancing (or something like that)
AHHJFJXKGKDHDVSSCKFK
MATING DANCE ABDKWNSKSKS
“I’ll show you how I swing” how have I never noticed that before
Both ways because I fucking swear Chad is Bi
Wtf I never knew
I know right and then "You'll never know until you try" etc. I might've just been too young but the innuendoes!!
He literally threw it back
I was a stupid child for not realizing that
“There’s just one thing that stops me every time” *Cut to a group of his own peers* The only thing that’s stopping him is his fear of acceptance. He’s scared his peers won’t accept him.
InfiresTM holy fuck your brain is massive
big brain energy
O my gosh it’s like when Troy became a theatre kid
god i love smart people
InfiresTM he has to stick to the status quo
Me at 12 years old: Why is he singing about not dancing while clearly dancing?
Me now: It all makes sense...
Lol I’m 12 and get it 😂
Me but when I was like 7 I don’t really know
OMG HOW DID I NEVER GET THIS SJANAKJSNSNS
@@alberto-hm6em lol I'm 17 and I didn't get it 😅
I searched up the song again and Disney literally turned off the comments. 💀🤣
Yes.
You? Here? Fuck yeah
So uh
When you gonna hit us with that Jed & Octavius video (from Night at the Museum)? They were so gay.
FSDGHJKLSK
the council has approved
400th
Ryan tells Chad to “Hit it out of the park” implying he WANTS Chad to get a home run or in other words run all the bases. What else do bases signify? Ah yes the progression of a sexual relationship. Need I say more?
March Stars I don’t know if this is serious or not but it’s hilarious and I know in my heart is also true.
They switched clothes omg please let them be gay
He wants him to hit it
Ahaahahahahahaha
@Mr Temporal woah~
Mr Temporal oop
“so you call that... a little game?” this, to me, is chad acknowledging ryan’s sexual game
Or another thing that is referred to in sizes
you cannot TELL ME they weren't talking about his dick
@@BrynnBeverly YOU CANNOT
@@BrynnBeverly honestly
@@BrynnBeverly 👁️👄👁️
straight man ships ryan and chad for 10 minutes and 12 seconds
Straight man with eyes and ears
Grown man
And we applaud him for it
I ship it I never noticed as a child
"straight".
fellas is it gay to switch clothes after singing a song full of sexual tension?
This has "kiss your homies goodnight vibes" and I love it
Not if you don't switch socks
Grace Curtis 😂😂😂 bruh
Lol no
Did they say no homo after?
Ryan and Chad had more sexual tension in this 4 minutes than Troy and Gabriella in the entire trilogy. Prove me wrong.
We can't, this entire song is enough proof that you're right.
So true
You're right and you should say it
Your right. Also this love story is better than troys and Gabriella's so
Why would I prove you wrong when you're right
I don’t know what’s funnier. This video or the fact that the analysis could possibly be accurate
Doodlecorn (if you skip all the lies)
I dead ass used to think they were gay
Doodlecorn iirc, the writers originally did want to make them gay but big corporate Disney wouldn’t allow it. i also heard the actors believed it too
why'd you stop
Genae used to?
*when this joke is clearly satire yet it has valiaidity to it*
Joke?
Grant Connolly woooosh
what about that is a joke, they're clearly gay lol
Pauline Eichner the joke is how much he praises the movies I think. But of course they are gay, the creators confirmed it was their goal (but Disney was like "nope" so they had to be sneaky)
Well Disney supports gay characters now so hsm2 should've just waited a little longer to come out
Kenny Ortega just confirmed Ryan was indeed gay. But we never needed a confirmation, we all knew.
We been knew
TBH I never saw him as anything but gay, it wasn't even gay-coded, it was approaching tokenization haha
I didn’t even know what gay was, but I knew Ryan was it.
@@jemappellemerciYess
Jokes aside it reallyreally read as very gay. I don't know if he mentioned this but pitcher and catcher are used as terms for sexual positions.
Omg this is too much
@The_Charlie also it could be which way he swings as in, if he likes guys or girls maybe????
... And don't you dare tell me that Ryan didn't spend most of their time together pitching.
@@sopraltenass13 which means... Ryan is the top???? XD
HelveticaDumplings we ALL know he’s a bottom
It seems like Ryan is gonna bop bop bop, bop to the top after all.
gold
HAHAHAHAHAHHAHA
7:01 his smirk when he gets the top of the baseball bat makes all the more sense now
😦
Bottom*
say whatever you want but someone on that film’s team made the conscious decision for them to switch outfits and there’s no explanation for that
Lmao t r u e
It was probably the director (Kenny Ortega) and the actor (Lucas Grabeel) trying to sneak in another small hint that they were gay. Both the actor and director wanted Ryan to be gay, but when they pitched the idea Disney shot it down because they didn’t think gay people were appropriate for a G rated movie.
@@adareif4450 It is sad that things were that way. But at least we have High School Musical The Series where there actually is a gay couple and the protagonist has two mothers.
Yeah the director wanted to make Chad and Ryan a couple but Disney said "nO wE cAnt dO tHaT"
@Shen R yup I'm still waiting
Favourite quote: “I mean can you really tell me they didn’t just f**k after all of that??!” haha
HAHAHAHA
LMAOOO HES RIGHT THO
When UA-cam finally recommends something worth watching
right XDD
Right
Zoey Raven Omg True
👏👏👏👏👏
"the seductive dances they present towards each other"
chad : jumps in the air
Pretty seductive, if you ask me
* crackles like a witch* 😂😂
A standard in any mating dance of a high school gay/lesbian.
Did you miss all them hip swings?? Lol
alternatively titled: "they're boyfriends, karen"
Shut the fck up karen
*insert gif of Oprah shrugging*
Karen=disney
ROFL I ship them
they’re lesbians, harold
He did take a girl to prom but that wasn't just any girl, it was Kelsey, a very-much-lesbian-coded character. So it was pure mlm/wlw solidarity
I never knew that :o
I love this interpretation so much
What does mlm mean
@@slipknotfya male loves male
@@matuchaval without context I would have thought it only stood for multi level marketing. The more ya know
Chad’s also playing a different sport than usual, could also be a metaphor for doing something he isn’t used to;)
Cash Katt nope Chad mentions to sharpays dad earlier in HSM 2 that he also plays baseball and track & field
Jake Daddio shhh jake SHHHH
The switching of the clothes...never noticed. Omg.
Could be as a show of respect to one another
Yesss smart
The level of seriousness in this video is beautifully hilarious
thats a lot of likes
IKR 🤣
obviously it was serious. Relationships should be taken VERY seriously. lmaooo
We ARE serious
what do you mean?
Technically, the sexual tension lasted longer than just four minutes and twenty seconds because it takes place during *the whole game* . We just get an edited version of this game, which probably lasted 47 minutes, maybe even longer.
You are a flukin genius
Then they had a good **** after
They spent hours together, if not the better part of a day. - as rivals, not friends (remember this, it's important). You'll notice that after the gameday, the pair are often seen standing next to each other or close by, and share silent reactions to other characters. They became comfortable enough to share food, clothing and a verbal-emotional shorthand. In 10 hours or fewer it's very hard to become close to an antagonist in your life, but something so strongly connects Chad & Ryan in that short time that animosity between them just..goes away. So in summation, the power of Friendship(TM) truly is awe-inspiring.
Pretty sure when Chad means "there's only one little thing that stops me everytime" he was talking about his friends, they are framed everytime he said it.
It's deeper than that... He was talking about his own homofobia and the hate of society... A masterpiece
Actually, I believe it's more just his peers in general
“Stick to the status quo!” Lmao
"Dear diary, I couldn't find my diary today so I'm writing this on my 2 high school musical 2 dvds"
Nick at one point probably
Vianney Aguilar yes drew is queen
lol i instantly thought of that vine
“I’ll show you how I swing” - Chad
“You’ll never know if you don’t try” - Ryan
I can smell the tension
Chad is bi. Ryan gay.
@@JmBvhntnt28 my thought exactly!
@@benji_kay Great minds think alike. 💯🙂💪🏽
@@JmBvhntnt28Kelsey is a lesbi 😂
4 minutes and 20 seconds of pure gay panic
You had the opportunity to say 420 and you missed that ;'(
Ew no there friends
@@pixiegamerchan6774
Fuck off
@@pixiegamerchan6774 *they’re
I watched this when I was little and didn’t even know that homosexuality or sex existed and I STILL picked up the sexual tension
EXACTLY OH MY FOAKAJENWKAODN FELT
Confuzed Person lol
I fr thought as a 5 year old “are they dating now?”
Midnight Awakens I was so confused by Ryan’s actions towards Gabriella and actions towards Chad. Something did not make sense at that time lmao
Leoné Talks Too Much same. Lmfao. The energy was so off.
This is the best over-analysis of one of Disney's early attempts to add a gay storyline into their movies.
Nicolo A and it makes sense
obvs i know they're gay, it's meant to be, but I seriously wish that I could know if Disney truly meant to imply/add this or not. Like, WHAT DO YOU MEAN. WHAT ARE YOU TRYING TO SAY. Everything in this scene adds up, but then after this the whole thing is abandoned throughout the rest of the series. :(
the director wanted to make ryan gay but Disney was like "that is too iNaPrOpRiAtE fOr a cHilDrENs mOvIE" so I bet yeah the directors were like "okay lets *slide* this in here"
* Disney’s attempt to hide the gay storyline
@@marshmellow_melmel they even did that to Andi Mack
I would watch a spinoff movie about Ryan and Chad
Lemon Queen I was going to like this but the likes are at 420 and I don’t want to ruin it
@@emmablack6878 just like the run time of the beautiful song
Lemon Queen SAMEEE they are the real love story of high school musical
I wouldn’t
I want that now
“I Don’t Dance”
starring: chad and Ryan
Critics call it a “Modern Day Romeo and Juliet”
regina villanueva Romeo and Julien
Romeo and John😂😂
romeo, romeo, i love you, no homeo
Cookie Cat No, it was always Romeo and Julian😂😂
it's julio
I knew Ryan was gay before I even knew was gay meant.
Same
sameee
Chad with girls just didn't feel right to me for some reason 😂
same
Same
“I Don’t Dance” is the greatest scene in cinematic history. It’s on the same level as *insert any scene from Shark Boy and Lava Girl*
Couldn't have agreed more.
I agree so so much
Tru
dream dream dream dream dream dream
Yes preach
I want these two actors to react to this video.
Does Ryan even act anymore? Last I seen him was HSM. But Chad has been in a couple movies after.
Either way find a way to send this to them lol
@@mokaza40 I mean he was one of the main cast members in Switched at Birth, so I do think he still acts.
@@alondraa.3522
That's good. I dont wish anything bad on them. I'm just glad they still are famous and can live pass HSM unlike drake from degrassi
@FinalNinja
I know. But he's gonna always be the guy from degrassi. Those 2 aren't just the guys from HSM they have increased their acting resume. Drake from degrassi is drake from degrassi. That can rap now
Duran Sok no he's not. He's wayyyy more known for his music
"Why Chad And Ryan Switched Clothes in High School Musical 2"
"Gay"
I dont see a difference on these two
LightningGrace is he gay in real life?
@@justvibezfc6406 I hope so
Migs13 nah he has a lady he married
@@justvibezfc6406 nah both are straight I think
Disney: we don't want the gay scenes here, its not PG. Take it off.
Director: haha. Try to stop me bich. Woops here's some sprinkle of gay, hers another- and I- oops they switched clothes.
There is no heterosexual explenation for the switch of clothes
😂👌
HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA
HAHAAHHAAHAH LMAO
Kenny Ortega (the director) wanted Ryan to be openly gay but disney was against it, but he still managed to make everyone ship these two! He's such an amazing director!
when they dance and stuff without the music i'm oddly uncomfortable
Penis
Same
Don't you dance?
@@jellifygirl Not a chance.
@@inlovewiththethoughtandnot7057 i know you can
You know I was like 5 when I watched the movie and I didn't know what "gay" meant, but I knew Ryan had it. I was so confused when Ryan brought a girl to prom when I was little, I didn't know why I was confused at the time, I just was. I know now and it's beautiful.
what a mood
Damn you are young
LMAO i love how you said he had it like it was a disease
DS not that young tbh it came out in September 2007 that was like 12 years ago that means if you were five when it cam out then your 17 or turning 17 now.
Literally me at any scene when I was little
This is the most important and influential video essay of our generation, I think about it at least 3 times a day.
It's an instant classic.
Funfact: This is NOT a wardrobe MISTAKE.
are there articles or interviews saying that
Adrienne Williams Yes. They were meant to be a couple I’m pretty sure but Disney said “what do we look like Cartoon Network? Fuck that!” Idk pretty sure you can look it up pretty easy.
Also even if there is a heterosexual reason for it I doubt it was unintentional. How would you fuck up wardrobes that badly without anyone noticing?
Who ever just gave this the 800th like a second before I did. You suck.
Just Kibby ok
@@trucetruce335 *"what do we look like, a cartoon network?"* 😭💀
Taylor: YOU TOLD ME YOU WERE STRAIGHT!!
Chad: Straight up gay...
😂That Made me chuckle... Tpwk.
Ryan and Chad: We aren't gay, we're just hOmiEseXuAls~
So he is atracted to troy
Andres Acosta LMAO OH MY GOD HAHA, nahhhhh troy’s not his type of homie
@@triksteey yup
This is objectively and scientifically one of the best video essays out there. Well done.
Me age 7 watching this: wow they became such good friends after this song!
Me now: they ffuuuuuuckkeeeddd
I really thought it's just a friendly thing, that clothes wth
Insert they fucking meme *
Same
@@sisterofclementine who switches clothes paltonicly?
How dare you. This is them falling in love. Bisexual awakening.
I do not need this kind of distraction right now, Nick.
But oh boy do I want it.
Breaking Banter tell me about ot, I work in half an hour lmao
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THAT’S WHAT SHE SAID!!!!!!!
"But Ryan took a girl to the prom!"
So did I and I'm super gay. I was going to high school around the time HSM came out, you couldn't take a same-sex partner to prom whether or not you were out.
Yeah, and like another commenter mentioned, Kelsey might have been a lesbian. I remember her wearing some tomboyish clothes throughout the series.
Might have been a genius move in a time when things like same sex relationships would have been very controversial for a kids movie.
@@burcolclone8322 Being a tomboy does not confirm or deny that someone is a lesbian.
Gail A. No but it is commonly recognized as a lesbian stereotype, so that might have been on purpose
@@turquoisecrow4513 Gotcha, thanks.
@@burcolclone8322 why do you guys want everything to be gay or lesbian? it's a kid show for God sake. Geee
“On a baseball field...”
*shows volleyball court*
George Snickerz a brief summary of my life
Top gun reference?
Volley ball is the lesbian sport 👌👌
@@scarlettfavara3129 it's true. I'm a lesbian and i play volley
@Mile Gimenez Exactly, I mean, just look at Haikyuu!!
Nick: Dear diary, I couldn't find my diary so im writing this on both of my High School Musical 2 dvds.
bruh this is literal gold right here
At first I thought the profile picture was a doll then I realised it was a shiba inu's snoot.
Everyone raved about Zac Efron but the real crushable people were all the other male actors
Honestly. Chad was my crush 😂
When my friends try to call be racist for not fancying enough black people my mind would shut down and the strange relief and comfort i would feel when i pictured Corbyn blue
But im not one of those ppl just they know how i am under pressure like that being called out for see things that are not true but aren't that deep yet its funny to see my reaction i admit
Ammara Shah: Corbin is half white tho... so you’re almost there lol
I liked Ryan 😂😂
My first crush was Lucas Grabeel. lol
This is not something i would have ever thought to look for but im so glad youtube did. The algorithm might be fucked but not as much as chad and ryan were that summer
they gay we been knew
Kitsune Zakuro chad the bisexual icon
hay kitsune good to see you hear love your vids
I see you appreciate the fine arts.
Preach
Oof look who’s here
“The seductive dances they present towards each other”
It’s their mating calls
3:37
Chad: "I don't dance"
Ryan: "I know youre gay"
🤭🤭
OMG I heard it!!
Just heard it
Brooo I heard it too
😄😆😅
Thank you, I'll never be able to hear it a different way.
Which is absolutely perfect 😉
I CANT STOP HEARING IT
So... is this the high school gay mating ritual we’re observing?
Rainbow Melody I think so 🤔
Yes but for lesbians it’s art club
@@sumsum3873 but what about us Bi's???
@@alexiagordy5193 errr, yall get school outings
Alexia Gordy Maths
so glad you talked about abs double gay. history always overlooks him for his amazing contributions to society and it’s great to see he’s appreciated
okay but chad actually said "i'll show you how i'll swing"
Doesn't he swing the bat both ways after that? Like saying "I swing both ways"
@@ravduran335 oh my god the biconnnn
BISEXUAL KING
disney totally straight-washed ryan and chads relationship, change my mind
Yeah they covered it up with chad and ryan taking girls to prom
You're right and you should say it
They tried
lol owo let’s be honest the girls they took are total lesbians.
I think it's called "Giving-A-Case-Of-The-Not-Gays" but that also works very well.
Disney: *makes chad and Ryan switch clothes after a whole song filled with sexual tension*
Viewers: lol they gay!
Disney: *insert surprised pikachu meme*
Ava McQueen that went over my head when I was 8
Marie Strobel JOKES ON YOU DISNEY WE SEE THROUGH YOU THOSE GIRLS R THEIR BEARDS
Marie Strobel 🤣🤣😭😭😭
Aza McQueen it was actually the actors that switched clothes, it just made it into the final cut 💀
@@jensinthepark kelsey is a lesbian. you can't change my mind.
As a kid, I was never convinced about the Chad-Taylor and Ryan-Kelsey relationship. Now I know why.
UA-cam: why did Chad and Ryan switch clothes in high school musical 2?
Me, who has never seen any high school musical movie: they did WHAT?!? I demand to find out now
SAME i didnt even know which was chad and which was ryan
uni corn sameeee
I have watched the movie but I forgot about the whole movie 😅😅
Dude you need to watch the HSM movies they're a piece of art and history
M. B I’ve heard and I’ve taken it into consideration but I’m too anxious to watch anything I’m not familiar with so I shall go back to watching Harry Potter and The Prisoner of Azkaban again and recite each word like the annoying bitch I am 😌
it’s been 11 years and im just now noticing they switched clothes .... where have I been
Kaiirueche V. In denial
Living under a rock, maybe
I had this lil highschool musical 2 book that came with a lil flip phone and the cast would "awnser" your questions. I remember asking if they were boyfriends (I didnt know what gay was at the time) it said yes and I genuinely believed those facts cause that's evidence
*Disney you can't cover up facts.*
i think you forgot something important nick, where all the symbolism and character traits align with each other-- the colours of the clothes themselves
Ryan in high school musical 1 and 2 before i don't dance has never been shown with a potential love interest. he has that innocence of not having experienced romantic love yet, represented by his mostly-white outfit. on his hat, he has black stripes. like fellow youtube film analyser "now you see it" explained, stripes represent a deviance in society and in film, to point out someone or something like no other. the stripes represent his sexuality, kept only in his head until tHIS MASTERPIECE OF A SCENE. the black could be interpreted as him trying to cast it into the void in his mind, feeling ashamed of his sexuality. but then he sees chad.
chad who's so full of passion-- passion, represented by the red of his clothes. like ryan, he has that innocent white on him, though tainted by a fiery red (a colour that also stands for love) on all of his clothing, except for his white undershirt. it could be read as him having felt surface passion before, but not to the core of his heart, underneath all the layers.
when they switch clothes at the end, i think the symbolism shifts just a b i t.
ryan is now wearing chad's red and white, having felt chad's newfound love for him, knowing his passion. chad is wearing mostly white, his innocence of TRUE romantic love exposed for all to see, but like ryan before, the looming thought of how his sexuality might be shamed in society lingers in his mind.
and t h a t is the colour symbolism of their short, sweet time together.
-a not-so-serious-but-could-also-be-so analysis of their clothing by eyrist lee
This is the best thing Ive ever read
What a masterpiece👏👏
thanks now i can use this for an english project
Even the costume designers played a part... oof
holy SHIT you're right that actually makes sense what the hell
This is old but legit the actor of Ryan wanted him to be gay, him and the guy who bakes were supposed to be a couple but they cut it out so in the bloopers they both kissed.
REALLY ????
@@sfia YUP!
@@sfia yep! You can find it if you search up HSM 3 outtakes. They proper go at it as well 😂
M. B omg tyy 🤣
@@m.b3839 BRO I DIDN'T KNOW THAT OMFG
This is the peak of UA-cam content. Nothing will surpass this quality. Well done, sir
sithgem yes i went blind and deaf after the video because I would never see anything better.
I see another man of anime culture
With Kenny Ortega being gay, Ortega and Grabeel wanting to have Ryan gay, and Corbin originally auditioning for Ryan, I feel almost certain that this was the compromise when Disney decided against making Ryan gay.
In all seriousness though, Ryan was supposed to be gay... Which he *is* despite Disney not allowing it to actually be said in the movie. 😏
The actor confirmed it
Kanakalala🌺 That’s awesome! I always assumed he was anyway. I mean it’s super, amazingly, wonderfully, obvious
Jack James S. No straight man wears hats that flamboyant on a daily basis
And that matters because?
Ompharus because this video is about him being gay?
Cyrus wasn't the first gay Disney Channel character, Chad and Ryan were CLEARLY gay.
Edit: I think Chad is bisexual because he does really like Taylor, but he also seemed to really like Ryan too.
cyrus was the first openly gay character, in hsm 2 they dont actually mention it
You're forgetting Jack and Davey
in GLC there are the two gay moms but that was like 2014
This actually has valid points, though. This is beyond satire, and I'm not exaggerating. This is a fantastic video essay. I'm legitimately convinced they're gay for each other now.
how does he not have at least a million subs yet
My new OTP: Ryad. Charyn? Help?
Lottie I thinks it’s Chyan
Lottie the ship name is chyan lmao
I can never unsee this ship now...and i don't think i want to.
Kinda disappointed you didn’t bring up the line “I’ll show you how I swing”
He did
5:42
Thank you! Sorry, I missed it
*jerks ketchup bottle angrily*
“You call that *little* game?”
OK THEN
I choked when I saw that
💀💀💀
😂❤
His-dark-memerials *RYAN IS FONDLING THE BALL*
I love how over analyzed this is, but like it’s true- like Chad is like “i’m gonna show you how i swing” or somethin like....ya know buddy, that’s a little gay....and i’m here for it
Please also note that the song is consistently "I DONT dance". Chad is denying that he does something, while Ryan is encouraging him to try-- "I know you can". Even at his most fervent, Chad never actually says he WONT, only that he doesnt. Hes stuck in this assumption that because he hasn't before, he cant-- but he never actually says he doesnt WANT to. He never establishes an actual rejection, merely a backpedaling from the idea because he hasn't before. Faced with "you could, if you wanted to", Chad cant actually bring himself to say he DOESNT want to, weakly repeating that it's not something he does, instead. If he had, the entire playful flirtation of Ryan would not have happened-- despite ostensibly being an argument, it remains friendly and playful, to the point Ryan is comfortable with sincerely flirting. If Chad had actually rejected Ryan, ryan would have backed off-- but Chad never did.
Who are you beautiful person, let me hug you.
so Ryan is James Charles
BuffAye nah the other people actually said no. and stop. and im straight. thats not what happened here.
BuffAye also Ryan actually got a guy.
@@kotaleartist who?
this is the prime example of english teachers analyzing ancient literature
except this ones truer then half the stuff english teachers say
I think the reason Chad and Ryan never got together was because the movie was released in 2007 and disney wasnt about to take that risk so I think Kenny did what he could for when the movie was made/released
Also ryan kisses créeme brûlée’ guy in the outtakes of HSM3
Its 2020 and Dissney still dont take the Risk...🙁😐🙁😐
Crazy Demon_07 Kenny Ortega actually said that Ryan is canonically gay
@@ejw2354 "canonically gay" now that's new to me 🤭
They still wouldn't take the risk now, look at Love Victor being out of their platform
Chad: I don’t dance
Ryan: I know you can
That just turned to this
Chad: I’m not gay
Ryan: I know you are
*Always has been*
Yes
Yes
Rad/Chyan are the most iconic interracial same sex couple ever
Gay Boy Fakes I see you bid and I raise you Finn/Poe
Of course, it is all in my head. But that does not mean it is not real, okay!? 😢
Agreed
Oh. And Seamus and Dean too...
Gay Boy Fakes Stormpilot would like to have a word with you.
Gay Boy Fakes THIS is the best thing I've seen
The line, “I’ll show ya how I swing,” is obviously Chad trying to convince Ryan he’s straight (i.e. the ‘I don’t swing that way’ phrase)
The proof is in the baseball, boys.
Yet they still had sex.
Ryan dont wait for know one
7:07
THEY ARE LITERATLY IN THE SHAPE OF A HEART I--
OH MY GOD THEY ARE
OMG 😱😍😍😍
HOW ARENT MORE PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT THAT
If it in fact is a heart, it’s very imperfect and has a big empty spot near the middle. Many people might not notice it during the dancing part because it’s very easy to overlook as it’s not very distinct.
@@sabsays4091
Fair
I love how StRaIgHt peopleTM are pressed about the fact that we want to have us a gay and possibly bi character in an old movie like y'all legit have about 8 other cast member you can still keep let us live a little, what does chad being anything less then straight make him unlikable???
No titan. People just find there a diffrence between wanting representation and thinking everytime two characters have an intresting interaction they must be in love. Same for straight couples.
@UCa3WwjWtlPKD-3YCi_0dv7w see this reply might have some to weight to it if I also wasn't equally critical of baseless heterosexual ships and if people also didn't costantly ship characters of the same sex since fandoms existed, but that isn't the case.
The reason why we can't just agree to disagree the same way people do when it's a man and woman; is because whenever it is a same sex ship people like you go YOU HATE RPERESATION, YOU JUST CAN'T LET PEOPLE LIKE WHAT THEY LIKE, REEEEEEE, and then you allegedly cackle.
I am minding my own business. My business is laughing at emotionally fragile shippers who screech whenever someone says there ship doesn't make sense; instead of simply shrugging there shoulders and continuing to enjoy themselves.
@Gabriella Macieyowski oh boy, first off saying there are hundreds examples of something without listing one of them isn't the best look. Second there's a diffrence between wanting something to be cannon, even if you worked on it, and it actually being cannon. Case in point, the head writers behind phineas and ferb liking Beaufort and baljeet ship but not making it cannon. Third, what if you're just projecting. The beauty of these speculation discussions is that when guess and claim until were blue in the race, but not of that equals confirmation. If people want representation, then they should ask for well done representation.
@Gabriella Macieyowski no, I've addressed head cannon at several points.
@Gabriella Macieyowski I know this might be hard for you to understand, but you don't actually have to use a term in order to reference it. My phineas and ferb example was me referencing head cannon.
Also kelsi and Ryan are 100% each others beards and friends and that's why they were at prom together
My God that's adorable
It never felt like they had any chemistry with Kelsi or Taylor to begin with, so.....
True.
So true, he clearly had a thing for Troy in the third movie. He mentioned to Troy to stop worrying about Gabriela going to Standford as Taylor was going to Yale and to focus on them going to college together. He said it in a way that he didn't mind that Taylor would be leaving him after graduation.
kelsi was obviously lesbian anyway
@@homiebob6160 Disney realized he had created two gay icons and tried to get them both out of the way by pairing them. My 10 year old self never accepted it as canon
What if chad and Ryan were boyfriends and kelsi and Taylor were girlfriends and they just paired up with each other because none of them were out🤔
Even when I was 5, I realized all the sexual tension in this scene and shipped it heavily.
>Dancing is also a "slang" type of thing for sex and relationships. ("The Devil's Tango." "We danced in circles around each other.")
Arianna Counts you’ve been watching Alex Meyers lmao
Belena TH
We have the same mind
@@beatrevorharris That and from being a writer who wanted to add sex ubto a story but was underaged and afraid her mother would find it. 😂
Yes! Like the lyrics from 1D's Best Song Ever "and we danced all night to the best song ever, we knew every line now I can't remember how it goes but I know that I won't forget her cause we danced all night to the best song ever, I think it went oh oh oh, I think it went yeah yeah, I think it goes..."
Okay gays, instead of asking "do you listen to Girl in red? ;)" you ask "do you listen to I don't dance? ;9"
You can be straight and do both those things.
Crazy 1201 girl bye issa joke
Crazy 1201
Yeah but we aren’t straight so
@@Crazy-vb9oz its a joke lol
Girl in red for girls, I dont dance for boys
"songs about summoning the devil through the occult"
I laughed HARD on this one XD
This whole scenes is what if we kissed... lol jk.... unless no no no I couldn’t... or could I
nah nah just kidding bro.... unless.
yea nAhhhh ahahaa I was joking.. lol... unless......
Yeah no... no way... well maybe
Bro I had a we fucked!
It's just a dream
Yeah gay I wouldn't fuck you
You wouldn't?
I mean you want to-
THey fUCked
You can tell a heterosexual man made this became he didn't mention the whole pitcher/catcher thing.
True true i blushed at the pitching lyric hah
"I don't top."
"I know you can"
"Not a chance"
Topppppppppppo
@Julia Olson "Pitcher" and "catcher" are gay slang terms, alluding to who tops and who bottoms during sex.
Yo, the director (Kenny Ortega) is gay. It's very on purpose.
I’m actually cackling at these comments they’re all so great
Okay, I read your name and...
*my mom is bi and I'm shook*
Mini Moon pffft rip
Mini Moon it’s kinda my fault sorry 👉👈💀
i fucking love your username lmao
Ryan: Bases are loaded
Me: seeing an empty base in the back
“Bruh”
TheCartoonGuy ! The one on 2nd is trying to get a head start to 3rd so technically could be bases loaded
fuck the step chickens
Marty M dont be jealous you’re not part of the cult.
Random Person On the Internet i was part of it but then it got old and now its just blatantly annoying
I can’t tell between his serious voice and sarcasm voice
Señor Depression I feel this on a spiritual level
I just assume sacasm all the time, unless he's talking about HSM 2 cause that movie is a masterpiece
Sammy Maxwell I am going to take this advice to the heart. Thank you
I don't care if this is a joke I feel its truth in my soul
rewatching after kenny ortega confirmed ryan is gay and would've come out in college
As a child, I was always confused as to why Ryan brought a girl to the prom. Even when I didn’t really understand sexuality or thinking about lgbt, I couldn’t comprehend him in this strange and thrown together heterosexual storyline 😂
Honestly same, my gaydar has never failed me
same lmaoooooo
YO SAME i was so confused as to why he was doing it 💀 my poor little gay heart could never
I was confused because before HSM3 they had like zero to no interaction like I legit thought he didn't even know her name
There is no heterosexual way to explain it.
"You talkin' a lot, show me what'cha got" yes daddy
💀💀
😂
*d e c e a s e d -*
😂😂😂💀
I- 😂😂😂