Hydraulic cylinder chrome rod replacement, machining and welding on IH 175c track loader
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- Опубліковано 24 сер 2024
- In this video Hunter and I are machining out some new chrome rods and then I weld them back onto the old eyes. This is from the 300 hour Dressta 175c track loader
Here is some previous videos on the same machine if you have not seen them and there is more to come!
Picking up the machine
• Trucking an IH Dresser...
Taking cylinders apart
• IH Dressta Dresser 175...
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Clint what is the difference in cost from what you did as opposed to buying a complete cylinder rod ready to install ?
Smaller rod with eye was $755
Chrome rod stock was $125 plus labor to turn out and weld
But I did it for another reason mainly to teach my son how stuff is done that is priceless in my opinion
Normally I would of probably farmed it out or bought the new complete rod
Money well spent on education.priceless👍
@@C_CEQUIPMENT If Hunter wants more practice I have two rods I need to replace on my dozer I’ll send to him. Lol
I highly recommend ABOM79's youtube channel for some awesome machining tips also CEE's channel. glad to see Clint and Hunter working together!
@@TheHillbillyEngineer the opening shot -- coming in the door on the pallet on the forklift -- convinced me that Clint watches Kurtis already.
Just catching up on some of your older videos and came across this one.
Those boys are dam lucky to have you in their life!
You assure them constantly and praise them so much.
I learned machine shop from grade 9 and 10 and then went into co-op tool and die in grade 11 and 12 back in 82 to 86.
Best time ever to learn that.
My first love was auto mechanics and then came along the machine shop stuff. It gave me a something to use throughout my life.
Seeing Hunter on the lathe brought back so many memories.
Bro, you can weld like a champ; properly use a metal brake; are a diesel mechanic; can program a cnc graphics printer and a plasma cutter; and many more things. If someone wants to talk smack about you not doing things the way they would do them, just tell them to send you a link to their video doing even half of what you do. I'm pretty sure there will be no response. To top it all off, you take the time to teach your sons how to do these things. Keep up the good work and the vast majority of us will appreciate your work and enjoy your videos.
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Well said 😁
Hunter is a good student, he's a bit camera shy but that'll change with time. awesome seeing father and son work together. love the channel guys, I'm a new subscriber from the toilet of NY........
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Watch Cutting Edge Engineering for some good tips on building, repairing cyl rods, he's pretty sharp...that's a Nice lathe they just don't build them like that anymore...Great Vid.. showing the little man some life skills👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
And stay around for the outtakes - learn some Australian......
Kurtis is the man , and homeless is pretty good too
@@NoelyBob You forgot Karen. A woman with endless patience.... and great camera/editing skills.
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@@Michael_CS615 you are correct, very poor form from me
I worked at a top notch hydraulic shop for 6 years and I learned a ALOT ! We had a man that did ALL the machining and welding on chrome rods. It was cool to watch. He showed me how a hacksaw blade will just skate across an induction hardened surface. We used to service cotton gins where the chrome rods are 10 and 12 inches diameter!!! Big ole boys. The lathe was huge !!!! And they even hired someone just to be in charge of metal shavings ! It’s was quite the operation.
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Clint your Kick-Ass father teaching your boy the trade
Always a pleasure watching a master tradesman work!
Never knew how complicated those rods were made. The precision that is needed is astounding. It's great to see father & son working together.
Great video I think I've learned more than hunter and I'm 64
Being a toolmaker for forty plus years I was impressed with your machining knowledge. Keep up the good work!
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What a great video! Clint, you sure have a lot of patience and you are a very good teacher. So neat seeing you work with your son Hunter. You sure have a lot of different skills and are a top notch person and businessman. Keep up the good content. Take care and God bless you and your company. Bob
Clint you are a kind and patient teacher. It was a pleasure to watch you teach your son. Thank you.
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Wowzer...one of the coolest and most educational shop videos I have ever watched. Talk about a way to hook a fella on a Lathe with all the different options and features you demonstrated. I loved hearing the history of the thing, its twin atop of seeing you teach your son. Thanks for sharing that moment in time. I liked your entire process and willingness to invest in the craft. Thanks so much for sharing this video. Loved every minute of it.
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GOOD TO SEE YOUR SON GETTING SOME TRAINING.......ENJOYING THE VIDEOS.
Monarch was and is the premier lathe of that vintage with helical gearing that is quiet and rugged. I loved them when I actually worked for a living. Then I managed them for DOD and had them overhauled and returned to service. That lathe is the best lathe a small machine shop could have at 80 years old. You can still make a living with a Monarch a little longer center to center for poop pumps or anything it will swing with the steadyrest and all the accessories including a taper attachment. Wish I had a 16" X 54" at least and that will do for most fresh water pump shaft. You are a lucky man.
Love to watch how patient you are with everyone. Its truly amazing just wished my grandfather/father had as much as you have. Love the videos Clint keep them coming
Well most of the time
Another great video Clint. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, you do an amazing job teaching your boys how things work. In my opinion it is the greatest pride a man can have watching his children grow and absorb what they are taught. Keep up the good work guys.
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So great you spending time with your son and teaching him a skill that will serve him and society forever!
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Again you showed great patients and teaching skills. I think you are a great dad for teaching your children what you can. Please keep up the good job you are doing with your children.
You can’t buy that kind of hands on education! Great job raising your boys. Merry Christmas to the C&C family.
Said it before and I'll say it again .... Hunter, you are such a lucky Son ! Nobody else your age gets to participate in "Metal Shop" like we did ... in 7th Grade thru HS Seniors. And it is really a shame for there are only 2 paths to personal wealth: a job and "cost avoidance" ... the latter is the payment in the future for what you learned today. Bravo
'Ole Audiophile To Clint: My complements to yourself, your shop/business, & your obvious know-how. What's intrigued me the past several episodes is your 13yo son. For a 13yo, that teen does not embarrass himself or others in your shop, not an easy task on camera/the all seeing eye. That's a direct credit to the outstanding job you & your spouse have done. I started watching you w/C&C when you jumped in a Dirt Perfect Episode. I got there via LetsDig18. You helping Chris made my day during your recent Auction putting. Thanx, keep up the excellent work.
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And thanks for watching
You're a natural born teacher, Clint. Appreciate getting to see more of what you do and seeing you do it with your Sons.
The way you teach US while also helping those with you learn more is priceless. My metal mentor was a lot the same way (only with much cussin). You don't just teach Hunter, you're always reiterating to communicate continuously helping everyone stay on sync and also refresh knowledge. 👍
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refreshing skillset is always a good thing Clint. Kurtis from CEE does these regularly, has method but also works on much larger equipment too. teaching Hunter a dying art is more valuable asset IMHO. in the day of age of just throw it out buy new , knowing how to repair is quite valuable
Yes for sure
with so many hacks here on UA-cam that dont have a clue what they are doing with many tens of thousands of viewers and subscribers its great to see someone actually repairing things properly
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I've had the pleasure of running several different Monarch lathes over my 30+ years of machine work. They can't be beat IMO.
I've also made several new cylinder rods but never one that was welded to an eye. I did just recently watch Kurtis from Cutting Edge Engineering make a few like this.
What surprised me about his work, was using a round insert to do all the undercut. I never seemed to have a solid enough set up whenever I want to try a round insert.He did a great job with it though.
Yup, Kurtis sure loves his 12mm button insert for those interrupted cuts / weld removal. The other thing that Kurtis does is to use the tail stock and center to keep the eye aligned with the cylinder and advances the center to press the eye spigot into the cylinder. He also tack welds it in place on the lathe with the ground attached to the eye and the lathe, DRO, and everything else disconnected.
Life lessons for Hunter, it's great seeing the three generations working together. Fortune shines on this family.
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Clint as odd as this sounds I'm super happy D.P. did the video that seamed to question C&C's quality of work.(No matter how wrong it turned out to be) If not for that video I would've never found your channel and found out what a Super kool dad you are. And what a great teacher you are. Thanks DP
As a retired shop teacher, it is so special seeing Hunter learning, especially from his dad. Hunter looked so uncomfortable at first, but you could see that confidence build. Dad was cool in that he could easily fix a mistake.
Clinton, interesting video, thanks for sharing. If Hunter continues an interest in the trades, he will never go hungry. Great teacher!
It's been my experience with these youngsters that when they're 15 years old their attention span and their curiosity is perfect for teaching them stuff and they retain it a lot better looks like Hunter is right about there. Great video thanks for sharing
You are correct Clint that is a study rest. Loved seeing Hunter run a lath for the first time. Shame our schools can't teach machine shop anymore. We've lost so in our schools. Not good for the nation. God bless
Agreed
Your boys probably don't realize this yet, but they are so lucky to have a father who spends time with them and teaches them like you do. They're going to become excellent men themselves because of how they were raised.
Your videos are so interesting and enjoy seeing you working with your sons. Thanks Clint.
I enjoyed this video a lot. I never knew how those rods were made and now I do. More appreciation for the folks who have those skills.
It's great to see you pass your knowledge to your son. The factory I worked at had 3 or 4 of those old Monarch engine lathes that were used in WW2 to make war material. Great and durable old machines. It's sad that this country can't produce equipment like that today. The company that I worked for for 35 years manufactured fire hydrants and municiple water valves. In 2006 they moved it to China and leveled all the buildings. It's sad to see what America has become. Sorry for the rambling of an old man. Always enjoy your videos.
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It’s the truth and very sad
Greetings from No VT - It is great to see the details behind the scene. Seeing Hunter's growth is also a real pleasure, quite a son you are growing!
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So very interesting to watch how this is done. Great learning experience for Hunter.
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This was really good to watch. I like watching the lathe work. Interesting
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It’s got to put a smile on your face Clint watching your son following in your footsteps!
This is learning the correct way. I never got the opportunity to learn like this. Very nice. I started two years ago and went and got used to the DRO. I wish i had learneb like this you g man. Great job
Very educational video. I had no ideal how those cylinders were put together. That’s something your son can fall back on his whole life. Thanks for sharing, Clint.
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You didn't do a bad job, you're a little rough but the end results were good, I'm a retired machinist and I think if you do it more often you'll excel, threading with a carbide threading tool you don't use the compound just cross slide it .good job..
Great video you don’t have accept replacement parts being expensive or unavailable you just go ahead and make it,that’s how you get over supply chain problems great work.
Awesome video, Clint! First time I've seen how to cut threads.
I watch a guy out of Australia that runs a machine shop that rebuilds rods and eyes for large heavy equipment routinely. Since that is something he does all the time he is of course faster and has heavier equipment since that is his bread and butter. I said all that to say , for people that don't do this work routinely you certainly know what your are doing and don't lack the skills, just the constant practice. That is what has been fun about this video. I knew exactly what you were going to have to do and I could compare technics. 😁 You are so patent with your son. I had a great Dad whom I loved and who loved me but I learned nothing mechanically from him as he had no patience for the ignorant wanting to learn. If you couldn't do it perfect the first time just go away he would do it himself. He was a lousy teacher, LOL.
There is another UA-cam site: Cutting Edge Engineering Australia. Keith owns a Machine Shop and primarily re-works or fabricates new Hydraulic Cylinders and Pistons. It is interesting to watch your channel and his.. His work is 100% parts that have failed in the field for various reasons (primarily lack of preventative maintenance. Good job, always enjoy watching your work.
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He has a great channel
A tip from a 35 year machinist. When your cutting the weld section on the lathe, its much easier to use whats called a "button" insert which looks like a shirt button. A WNGA insert is ceramic and is good for cutting through the induction hardened outer layers, then use a carbide insert for the soft material underneath.
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I had one ordered and it didn’t come in soon enough
Right on Hunter nicely done young man you’re making your Dad smile 😊👍😎🇺🇸NY
Good job on the lathe guys, those ole monarch lathes are tanks, hard to destroy them. I’ve run that lathe you have and up to 30” swing x 12’ centers. For repair work there is nothing like them. I wish I could have a dollar for every ram rod I have worked on I would be a rich man. Brought a lot memories back. Thanks for the ride along.
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I believe the Bridgeport lathes were made in Sidney, Ohio
The folks at Cutting-Engineering areva hoot! I really enjoy this channel and the equipment. The unimogs are interesting. Are they top notch at any particular task, but more like a Swiss Army knife.
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May have another Unimog video coming
That whole process was pretty slick to watch. Nicely done.
Man, that was sure a good video for someone who has never seen those old school lathes work. I’ll bet there’s not many folks around who still know how to do that kind of work, awesome job!!
Hunter done a great job for learning, great job to both of you.
That is a very a nice Monarch Lathe! They are renown lathes for their accuracy and being well built. I enjoy your walking me through your repairs. Best wishes.
Fantastic video Clint you are a remarkable man there’s nothing you can not do ! Your full service shop can do anything . God Bless !
I missed both videos, stripping the crawler and the rod and cyl work. Good videos. Rule of thumb: blue chips 800-900 degrees. They burn quick!!!! LOL
You were 100% right about that Monarch Lathe. They were/are great machines. I have a similar size Sheldon machine: 2.0 hp, variable speed, and back gearing for real low range speeds. Ole Kurtis down there in Australia usually cuts the threads in three passes. I fully agree with your approach of 015/pass.
Excellent work on the threads, Clint!~~~~!!!!!!!!! AND the welding job.... I'd also wanted a BobCat 225 but never had the real need or MONEY>
The induction hardening uses an electric heating coil the quickly brings the steel up to the "critical temp" (1400-1500F) then the power is turned off and quench solution (water or oil) is flooded on the part. That freezes the micro structure into a harder structure.
+C&C Equipment: For a _"non-professional"_ , you did a _quite credible_ bit of work, both machining w/ the lathe and welding using that _chinesium_ spinner device. Doubt Kurtis of Cutting Edge Engineering down Australia-way could find very much to squawk about. He might be a little better versed at finding/setting centers, but that's about it.
As usual, the video gets the typical standard YT 'thumbs-up' as a matter of course. AND... It gets the *_"Old Curmudgeon"_* three 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻 award for channel excellence because it's just that - excellent. All-in-all, a job very well-done, indeed! That includes the educational sequence featuring Hunter!
As is always the case, keep these high quality presentations comin'. They are most assuredly well received and enjoyed!
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Clinton that was great. Getting Hunter involved and teaching him skills is always a bonus and he will thank you later. Really cool to see how those are put together.
It is really special watching a father teach his son a skill,and the son willing to learn!
Hello Clinton, that was a great video and it seems to me you know a great deal about what you were doing. When I was assigned to Machinist Alec Bell at the shipyard Machine shop, the first thing Alec told me was to never ever start working close to a running lathe with long sleeve shirts/coveralls or hoodies! They tend to grab your sleeves and eat your arms so to speak. Thanks again as I sure enjoyed the trip down memory lane.
The value of the education that Hunter is receiving. Only if more young people only would take interest. thanks for being a caring parent Clint!!!!
I love your videos. Watching you repairing, making and building stuff that I know nothing about is so interesting. As I watched this, I remembered that I took metal shop 50 years ago in 9th or 10th grade. My father was a machinist in the shipyard during WW2. I didn't get that gene. I got his carpentry gene though. He died in his early 50's when I was 7. Hunter and Tucker are lucky guys to be able to do things with their dad.
I forgot to add that I hope they realize how lucky they are to have a did that will do stuff with them. There are so many kids that don't have that.
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As Some Boys have already Mentioned.... a great Channel for your Young Bloke to watch would be Cutting Edge Engineering from Australia. Kurtis is a Master in Machining Gear from Earthmoving Equipment. You'll also enjoy his Saftey Officer, His Dog Called Homeless...lol..... By The Way Clint .... Love Your Channel Mate ..... Like Many others, I got onto it was After Watching Dirt Perfect, Cheers 😎
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I watch a lot of machining videos . But kinda feel this was the best one . The “pros” don’t explain things as good as you and they never show their hands . I always wondered how they do threading but they never explain so thanks for the great video!!!
And another one watching what it takes to get it to the point of being able to cut threads into the end very educating and play by play expiations of the process very cool Clint 👍😎🇺🇸NY
"I don't know the termination of stuff", I think you meant to say the terminology of stuff, lol, it's not very often we get a chance too correct you Clint, lol, awesome video guys, and thanks for sharing.
Nice work Clint, especially appreciate you training Hunter and his desire to learn. Thanks for sharing.
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Happy to teach anyone who wants to learn
Great video. That brought back great memories of machine shop in school. Great to see Hunter taking more of a staring role in these videos. Thanks for sharing.
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Clint, the 1942 lathe you have is what i learned on when i was in high school from 1954 to 1958...it looked so familiar on this video.
Thanks for the video. It’s nice to know how to do this kind of stuff. Now that my dad, step dad and grand parents have passed away I have missed out on some knowledge. Thank you for filling the gap. They have all left me with some tool that can really help me succeed and it’s good folks like you that keep me learning.
God Bless you and your Sons.
The machining process is fascinating.
Hiya Clint,
Great video, as always; thank you both. You can not only do all the different jobs in fixing the machine but also teach how to do them. Not everyone can teach. I had a few apprentices in my carer as an electrician, and I enjoyed teaching them as much as I loved doing the work. It's great to see your padouoin wearing PPE. Okay, you don't always, but having been a first-aider in engineering workshops, it is needed.
The bottom line, you have a great channel; with excellent staff. I'm slowly watching all your back catalogue and enjoying every film.
Stay safe, Steve.
I'm usually not one to be a Safety Sally but this is just a reminder, be careful while that lathe is running with those long sleeves on the Hoody. One grab of that cloth and you or your son just lost an arm or hand. Great video and kudos to you for teaching your son the ins and outs of the Heavy Equipment business. More dads should follow your lead. Great job sir.
I like your diversity and equity fork lift!
Loved watching how you rebuild the chrome shafts. One of my favorite videos.
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Yes is very interesting how they put them together another good lesson for me ty Clint and Hunter 👍😎🇺🇸
Great video and a good job on the lathe plus an excellent opportunity for Hunter to learn some "old school" techniques. He will appreciate the NC tools much more after doing everything by hand. A big thumbs up 👍 on this one, takes me back to my high school days in shop class. 😁
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Gotta learn the old school way first
It is all worth it seeing you show your son how things are made.That’s priceless.
Clint your a man of many talents, very impressive. Your my new go to video when your up on You Tube.
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Clint I was a welder for forty years you did good
4/5/22; 2day watched u & son Hunter do lathe work, cutting off eyes of pitted chrome hydraulic rods from recent buy of 300 hr dozer. Then turn-down of new rods, then watched how you threaded ends to hold pistons: 12TPI. Then watched your new, Blue, pipe-slow-turn machine as you stick welded eyes back onto shaft for completed hydraulic cylinder rods. Phew! Lots of time & shop expense to replace all 4 damaged dozer blade hydraulic cylinders. Great to see you teaching son Hunter fundamentals of lathe work! Oh yes, fabulous old Lathe too! Much enjoy your channel & your retrofitting older dozers (& other heavy equipment) by putting them 'back-to-work'! Great stuff! Stay safe!👍👍👍🛠🧑🔧🙂
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As always - impressed with the way you let your youngsters do hands on, real world skill building.
Hard to argue with something that works. Good video.
CEE does these type of jobs all the time. That was a great education for Hunter. You have some serious skills in machining too. Great video and envious of all your toys.
I had no idea that those were made that way. I always thought that the ends were just welded together. No wonder they're so expensive. Awesome video, love the learning process. Can't wait to see the assembly process.
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Nice job Hunter great to learn something new keep it up learn as much as you can from your father
Thanks a lot for actually showing the process of what it takes to make them. People wonder why they are so expensive, I enjoy watching the different stuff you do and share.👍👍
Your patience while teaching is outstanding! You make a great teacher in my humble opinion!
I think you do some amazing work, and I'm glad to see your teaching the trade to the next generation. The patience you have is the mark of a great teacher. We need that. Hunter seems like a willing student.
I appreciate that!
Good information on how those are made thanks
Great video, especially takin' the time with your boy.
Great work guys I waiting for this video. A awesome watch koodo’s to Hunter he learns fast 👍👋🇨🇦
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good job Clinton... my dad was a machinist/tool & die maker... l wasn't cut out for the precision work
It looks like a good job well done on two fronts, main one being Hunter is getting some hands on experience from a good and patient teacher, Well done Dad!
Now that’s how you do it! It was awesome to see you take the time to teach your son what you can do with a lathe and letting him get hands on. It can be indispensable tool in the right hands.
Hi from uk guys👋👍 great episode 👌 I loved watching every bit as always I just love watching stuff like this👍 I always love watching your boys learning the ropes to proper lad and dad time is the best👌💓 and there skills as machinist will come true (tha old lathe does well for being a pensioner too ) old is always gold especially standing the test of time I bet it ways a tonne too proper quality👍 thanks for your time and well done hunter your doing well and always keen to learn and develop new skills👌👍 be safe and see you soon guys👍👋