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How I Made 20,000 Gold in NORMALS Protecting the Timmies in Dark and Darker!
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- Опубліковано 18 сер 2024
- Juiced PvP... in normals. Dark and Darker
00:00 Juiced Rogue
01:42 Lets Discuss
06:44 Another geared rogue
08:00 Not so friendly Warlock
09:05 A funny encounter
11:44 They don't want my help
13:32 Leading a new player to safety
16:44 Outro
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thank you for giving drip gravy what he deserves. You're the true hero the timmies require
That dude is an asshat, he killed me last wipe doing his friendly act and convinced me to open a door
@@haga7466yet here u are
@@trynagocrayz12 lolol
Ngl that is just the king of timmys a trash player trying to play friendly to kill timmies
What do you think about adding an additional gear bracket to normals to separate the random guy with 1 green weapon with the more geared players? Let me know below!
Just last night I ran into a team of three with nothing weaker than epic gear cursing up a storm while targeting the rest of the lobby. They definitely should make a slot that's harder than normals but easier than high roller.
I actually was thinking it would be how the first implementation would be. I was very disapointed it was 25-infinite. so I just stay under 25 because even if I try to gear myself to 100+ I'm not experienced enough as a player to fight 300+ gear players.
we need it really badly, my entire experience has been wear under 25 gearscore = run into fair fights almost exclusively. whereas if I even dare to wear 26 gearscore I'm running into bis full blue/purple
100% on board for adding additional gear brackets. I don't mind being outplayed I just want it to be on an even playing field. I understand that the game is in early access and it's the nature of the game but as a brand new player it doesn't feel great knowing that the team that killed you and your homies had blues and purples while spamming emotes as they wiped your team.
Normals should have stayed the same it was perfectly fine but this what happens the Timmies and casuals cry and IM GO BACK to allowing gear disparity in normals just so Timmie can bring in that green.
Nice suggestion dude. Must say its so nice to see these new players in the game. so reassuring that the game will be genre defining!
@@stevenpedder5236 yep love seeing the game come back to life from steam release!
I actually just blocked his content yesterday. When your 'content' is saying you have a 140 kill streak, but that streak is from hitting timmies that are picking up an item you're 'attempting' to gift to them.
LOL
Another one. Nice and calm as always. I love the analytic gear talk.
ohh and helping new players
Game absolutely needs more brackets. The queues can handle it, and that, in my opinion, is the only real viable concern that can argue against it. Everything else is just people wanting to stomp newer or undergeared players. I've never waited more than 10 seconds for a lobby, and typically it is literally instant - so quick I can't even unqueue if I want to change something in my loadout last second.
I will say though, that I think the gearscore you mentioned in here for the second bracket is too low. I think it has to be closer to 200 if the goal is truly to protect Timmies and give them a good time. The goal should be to protect from people kitted out in all blues/epics and allow people to use a few blue items or an item in every slot, since that is a major part of enjoying this game for people who don't have hundreds or thousands of hours - you want the dopamine of equipping a blue item or 2.
No the queues can’t handle it. I play on US east mainly but we gotta understand more queues destroys regions like OCE and SA
@@EdWuncler3rd OCE HR is already dead from what i've seen yeah.
@@GandhiTheJanitori play high roller solo in SA and the lobbies are DEAD
@@EdWuncler3rdwho gives a fuck about OCE and other dead regions. Catering to ALREADY DEAD regions just means you aren’t catering to ur actual player base but to one that clearly doesn’t exist lol. Games should cater to the largest parts of their player base being NA EU and AS which can all easily handle an extra queue rn
@@wideout7838 you’re a dumbas it’s not catering to lower pop region , it’s simply not leaving them behind.
BTW dead regions with many queues enables RMTers to go farm those lobbies uncontested, which in turn affects the economy of US the main player base. 👶
Any OG player will remember that in the early days of the game normals was exactly like it is now - a free-for-all. Dripgravy was still doing the same shit back then too. Thankfully nowadays timmies who don't want handled gear to be a factor in raid have the luxury of queueing
@@haga7466 So sweaty I can smell you through my screen.
Nah, I've played since Playtest 3 and the game is best it's ever been with the new pool system. It takes dozens of hours before you can genuinely enjoy entering as a solo and having to go up against almost exclusively trios. Not everyone is trying to create some kind of dynamic sandbox that they don't enjoy.
I just bought the game and I think its absurd that as soon as I equip one green weapon, im now going up against people with 300+ gear score and lvl 100 players almost every time im not under 25 GS. Your argument about bully's running into anti bullys is purely anecdotal, how many time have you seen this happen? It was REALLY fun getting 2 shot and not knowing why for 3 days until i realized that it wasnt a skill diff i literally was only doing 15-20 damage to some of the neckbeards who go into normals with only epics on. I do agree that they should try to enhance HR, but until then there should be a green tier queue where new players can get used to combat without getting raped
The game doesn't have a population big enough to support 3 different ques in 3 different categories... I wish it did though, this game deserves more players.
I've seen last night spell damage cleric using build you've showcased recently, he murdered 6 players and found me at the end, tried to fake friendly but kill feed kind of gave him away, so I bailed with extract next to me, his GS was fully optimized for spell damage and 100%+ speed 300+, glad I heard him in advance and positioned myself right at extract doors
I was the second geared rogue. Didn’t even hear you behind that door. Scared the crap out of me lol
Totally agree with the 3 thresholds of GR. Im a new player just started to rock pvp with white items on 24 GR but Im still getting crushed by players while playing above 24GR by full purple gankers…
There should definitely be a tier for green players before letting them face purple/blue on the highest tier. Plus if you’re new you cant afford purple/blue to learn how to play with them if you just get out of 24GR gameplay loop
Hey Firebox in the second most recent DAD twitch highlights I’m the druid that bear attacked you after you axed the rat running away. Just saw that clip of us
Lmao
❤
And i agree with your gearscore theory, i had the same basic idea
Current Timmy here ty for killing the geared. I've been avoiding pvp since I almost consistently get 2 to 3 taped. Save my fellow Timmies!
Nice video very informative and well put together
I think it’d be dope to have 100 and below GS lobbies and 100+. Would allow people to bring in some actual fun kits without getting queued against monsters.
As a new D&D player, the gear requirements should have more brackets to them if they’re going to have a gear based matchmaking system. There’s no reason I’m a fresh Bard going in naked fighting players with 250+ gear score and obviously getting completely rolled. Makes trying to learn this game super hard and probably harder than EFT cause at least there a new player can get lucky and 1 tap someone or ofc land a nade. Before all you guys say skill issue, don’t get me wrong it is IM NEW but that doesn’t mean I can’t try and fight people and try to play the game. Avoiding fights doesn’t help me get better but every fight I encounter is just people heavily outgearing me leaving me with low odds of winning.
This is something I've been running into as well. Second I start running Green kits I get matched into some scary lobbies!
Usually I'm able to just sneak my way out and remain under the radar, but oof. I've gotten blasted more times than I can count. xD
As a cleric I always help the timmies like firebox did but the moment I switch to rogue I am dripgravy fr
Firebox entering his vigilante arc
Yeah Ironmace needs to do something about normals. I like you 149 gearscore suggestion
Ты знаешь, что у тебя тоже очень сильные шмотки для обычки?
Или только тебе можно в таких шмотках ходить ?
I went into geared normals for my pvp kill quests, but then went back to boss farming/memeing until my friend hops on for high roller
the issue with normals is there are no gearscore brackets besides the 24and under bracket
There's nothing wrong with playing geared up in normals, but using thst gear to trick people and ruin their nights is scummy behaviour and will ruin the newer playerbase if left unchecked
What are your thoughts on level caps? My first time playing the game was the other day and I was in lobbies with level 50+ people. Do you think having all 4 perks unlocked is a big advantage or not really?
Levels go fast. It's an advantage but it only lasts a few hours
@@Firebox720 Yea, I see that now. I'm playing the free to play one now and hopping around classes so I didn't unlock all perks on 1 character before I was trying another. I have a 34 fighter now, trying dual wield & dex/agi build because I like the speed. Thinking about starting over with rogue again or trying ranger.
First time back to the game since removal of +3 All Att. I’m lost on most maps, have no clue what Dex/vigor do, and load in to solos with 2 green items with +mag damage and +resourcefulness that I found in my last solo run to get rolled by a guy in full orange gear. Even for a player who was previously skilled, the game is not good for any kind of entry
I think another gear bracket would be good, maybe even forcing HR after it. My main problem is I have 2 choices to bring a solid kit into.
A. Normals where i'll get a lot of pvp, most of it will be stomping but atm probably 20-40% of it is solid fairly geared people (im talking my kit is like 1-4k). It's fun not as much focus on pve and you can honestly make a lot of money in norms, like 500-1000 easily with outlier games being ~2k (this is not including player gear)
or
B. HR where the PVE is much scarier, half the time the lobbies are dead and so see no one so its just PVE farm simulator. And a solid amount of the pvp you do get into is try-hards grinding rank in legit 50-100k kits that will just 1-2 shot you almost no matter your gear.
So unfortunately the most fun option seems to be shitstomping norms looking for people that are doing same for fun pvp. Instead of farming PVE until you get nuked by a full leggo grinder.
I do like the idea someone posted make the gear bracket around 200ish and if you are above that you get forced into HR but it's free. You are already risking a solid amount of gear so its not like you are just bypassing the fee.
thought there was 3 modes in norms, 0-25, 25-125 and over unless it's changed in last few days.
I find it funny that a few months ago people were talking down on you for having blued in norms and the average gear set now includes multiple purps lmfao
big juicemasters
HERO OF THE TIMMIES!!!
my hero the timmy stomper stomper
I'd like more brackets in general. Some of my friends bought the game with Steam release. I wanted to bring them to HR, two games in a row people were 500GS+ and rushing us at spawn, when we had like 200/250GS, and 0 AP. How is that a thing lol
U are not even allowed to clear your first room in HR before u get spawn rushed lol. Some spawns are way too close lol.
Yea i also agree u will get like 3 green pcs and get in lobbies with a full epic legendary kit with perfect stats
yeah, still very much a free player and don't have access to HR right now but alot of pvp encounters have been "see player get rekd" aside from a select few
made the mistake of being friendly in duo's once or twice but got backstabbed so never again and its KOS for my groups mentality now as we level and learn the game
Hahaha ive met dripgravy like 7 times so glad to see him get treated like this for once
Devils advocate as a new player (just started this season) I think there just needs to be a large sticker from squire that says YOU ARE NOW ENTERING HIGH BRACKET NORMALS DUE TO YOUR GEAR SCORE.
Make it more obvious. Multiple brackets will break up the lobbies too much and there wont be enough players.
I play exclusively at sub 24 and its completely fine.
pro tip : if you started playing a game less than a week ago you should shut up and keep your bad opinion for yourself
Thank you.
Im new and havent experienced any issues. It has a lot to do with skill too. You can be geared and suck at playing and get done by a 25 gs. I like the game as it is even though I maybe won 2 or 3 pvp battles in my whole time playing. 😂
set would be better with dex boots cuz the ms is overkill he needed dps more imo
Oh and also could be so geared because HR has no matchmaking of any kind. I'm not playing HR because of that.
I'm still really new and struggle in PvP and am working on learning the PvE mechanics so I can go into my PvP fights with full health and I won't go above 25 item level because I run into people who just out play me on experience. I even run into people with 3 or 4 epics in Dup and Trio under 25 normals.... no idea how they're doing it.
Your teammates are going over 25
@@SkipPyP00S I can't say they aren't but I solo queue only and
@@Azerkeux I have to ask, you know that 25 gear score put you in next queue? It's not explained well enough when reading the info about this. To get into white lobbies you need to have max 24 gs. But if you know this and you still encounter juicers in
@@SkipPyP00S not sure what server(s) but I'm west coast U.S. and tend to play late night. I didn't realize it was 24/25+ I thought the split was at 25/26 though I know this happened to me at GS 12 last night I took screenshot
@@Azerkeux I am playing on EU. I went with 6 gs 5 times in a row at 2 am. I died to mobs as fast as I could. I spectated everyone and I couldn't find any juicers over 25 in the lobby. One more thing, when do those people kill you? If this is after 10 minutes playtime they might be geared because they killed and looted goblin / cyclops.
no not 3 it not good, they need under 25, then 1 that helps ease players into HR so maybe a 150/200 ish cap ( whatever green or blue egar would be ) and this mode should also have higher harder mobs too
Yea right now you go over 25 GearScore you can end up fighting people with 250+ easy which is funny.
I mean if you need that kind of gear to kill timmies it shows what kind of player you are.
Back in the old day i really enjoyed his content of betrayal
it reminded player that if u team you always risk betrayed.
I also asked him to do zero to hero by only betrayal instead of stomping player with gear
And i hated teaming
Yeah I don't understand how or why people come that geared in normals lol. It's not that serious. Had a level 16 cleric fully legendary gear with good rolls and all. Except he had a purple spell book. Never even seen the guy until I left.
Good rundown on the rouge and intresting idees on matchmaking system, I do however feel that you fail to adress the fact that you are in alot of ways doing the same thing as this player, the main thing being running very strong gear in normals. Ofcourse he makes it worst by befriending and then killing noobs. But the fact that you can challenge a player with this kit proves that your kit to, in almost all ways are to strong for normals, this fact is not mentioned and it buggs me.
Maybe a clearer way to understand stats so “timmies “ learn how to optimize gear easier is a better solution.
I personally wouldn’t want to remove the experience of outplaying an undeniably more geared player than you solely by your skill from the new players, just to shield them from ego players.
Also more brackets = more queues = dead regions, I have the luxury to play on us EAST which is always booming but we gotta think of all players
why are ppl so geared in normals? proceeds to que up geared into a normal.
I think Firebox didn't mean "How dare people queue normals so geared", and he actually meant "I can't believe this is what normals is like now, after the changes"
@RenkiexRenkie yep you got it. I went in with the intention on helping a new player (end of video encounter) but was met instantly with more juice than high rollers.
despise dripgravy with a passion
normal is fk for new people
bro of course a lot of players will be geared in normals
the F2P doesnt allow you to sell items to the marketplace nor play highrollers
soo the items you get from killing others are useless unless you can use them ur self either way to the weapons merchant it goes !
pretending to be friendly to new players and then betray them / kill them must be the most pathetic thing I have hear all year, just wow. that kinda stuff should be a bannable offense
I hate Dripgravy thank you for killing him XD for real guys how big must his ego issues be if your only source of content is ruining a game for new players. I know that it might be fun to feel overpowered with gear to just wipe a complete lobby but do that against experienced players and not against people who just started cause thats exactly how games like these die out over time
timmy baiter 500
Don't you have really good gear on? Seems pretty hypocritical. I understand you are trying to only kill other geared players but that's just not how the game works. New players want to practice fighting. Of course they are going to fight you and then you destroy them. You can blame them for trying to fight you if you want but... Protecting the timmies? Yeah, sure...
God I hope you merchant that gear otherwise he just buys back 😢
Firebox x dripgravy colab when? Name a more iconic duo
everyone laughs with a rogue in top gear, but I see a clear problem that is not being solved, this is a rogue who plays well, has top gear and still RISKS everything every time he goes into a duel with much less dressed opponents. Is this the norm? Why is it so bad that some classes can run around in green pants and be competitive, and the rogue in top gear are about the same as a scantily clad mili. It's painful to watch.
Running juiced normals is lame
I’ve seen the prison portals not spawn before
I dont think this was really protecting the timmies. You were pretty much like that rogue except you let few friendly people live.
Nothing more makes me mad than someone friendly crouching just to kill me 3 min later
Thank you for wrecking those mfs🫡