What If Russia Was First To The Moon - Soviet LK Lander!
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- Опубліковано 15 лис 2022
- In 1967. Soviet cosmonauts Vladimir Komarov and Yuri Gagarin exit the LK lander and become the first people to walk on the surface of the Moon.
People across the vast USSR, and their allies abroad, watch in awe and cheer in celebration at this achievement - while Washington fumes and NASA… is called to congress.
This never happened of course, but mankind was closer to this scenario than you could imagine and the red moon almost happened.
Join me today on a journey through the stars and how the Soviet ambitions to be the first on the Moon almost destroyed the entire Soviet space program.
In the 1960s there was an initiative for a joint US and Soviet program to put the man on the Moon. But with the death of JFK and change in the Soviet leadership this idea was abandoned.
Instead, a competition began. The Soviets made their priority to put the man on the Moon first, afraid of the awakening of the NASA and their potential.
So,the legendary engineer Sergey Korolyev was put in charge of this project and made a proclamation. the year 1967 was to be remembered as a new milestone in Soviet history - the first man on the moon!
But, fate had other plans.
Our focus today will be the LK lander, or translated from Russian the Lunar-craft.
The entire rocket which was to put the Soviets on the Moon consisted of following:
Three stage N1 superheavy booster rocket
Soyuz L1-LOK - a modified Soyuz spacecraft (not to be confused with the Soyuz carrier rocket)
And the LK lander
The story behind the N1 is a topic for another video, but the important thing here is that payload capacity for LEO (low earth orbit), was around 50t less than the Saturn V, standing at around 95tons.
Because of the siginicatly less carry weight, it required for some serious management of everything onboard for every aspect of the mission.
Coincidentally, Korolyev chose the same principle as the Apollo mission to get to the Moon, called the Lunar orbit rendevouz - the main spacecraft and lander would enter the Moons orbit, separate with the lander going down to the surface, while the spacecraft remained in orbit till the mission was completed. The crew onboard the lander would then launch back to space, dock on the spacecraft and come back home. All in one piece - hopefully!
This actual mission path was first proposed by a very interesting figure - Yuri Kondratyuk, all the way back in 1919! So perhaps it was less the russian’s and rather NASA who was on the back foot at this stage of the race
The spacecraft to carry the cosmonaughts to the moon would be called the LOK - the modified Soyuz which would carry the lander would have an additional stage, or Blok G as Soviets call it, which would take the craft into the Moon orbit and later back home, and Blok D which would take the LK to the surface and back.
Now that we have everything sorted out, let’s look into the landing process and how it differs from the Apollo’s Lunar module.
02:36 “Coincidently Korolev choose the same trajectory as Apollo spacecraft”. In 1920 Russian scientist Y. Kondratuk-Shargei made calculations of this trajectory as a most sufficient way to reach the Moon. Korolev and NASA both choose Kondratuk’s trajectory.
it... says that though?
I Really Wanted The Space Race To Continue. When Soviet Union Went Out Of The Equation, Even The US Space Programmes Turned Towards Slow Pace.
China : Let me introduce myself
/Space Race 2.0 (kinda) starts right now
You don’t need to capitalize every word.
China: "Allow us to introduce ourselves".
Next two decades will be interesting.
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Mostly because being first is not the point. Being there and doing the BEST job of whatever you are doing there will be. China will be in it for the long haul.
@@DOSFS Oh Yeah I Known About The China VS U.S Space Race. But What About The Time Lost? If the Soviets Had Landed Before The Americans , We Would Be On Mars In 90s. America Had The Power To Do So.
Everyone please welcome my good friend Micky who is the new guest voice for Escape Velocity!
Why?
As you know Found and Explained is a beast of a channel to run, from doing the script writing, to the voiceovers, to the editing and all that 3d, I simply was starting to feel burnt out and wanted to change the way I saw the creation of videos - and that means sharing in the effort of creating them . Thus, Escape Velocity will have its own voice, its own style, and even its own topics, so I hope you like it and welcome Micky to the F+E / EV group :)
So it's a permanent change?
Hello Micky, I hope you’ll continue to make it great!
A surprising change, but a welcomed one.
Hi
Nothing against Micky, but is still hear your voice inside my head when i listen to the videos :D
As I've always understood it the LK lander would only have carried 1 man to the moons surface from the LOK... Anyway some nice graphics. The Soviets did plan larger moon landers linked with a moon base.
Later variants were supposed to carry two cosmonauts.
One thing not mentioned is the difference of mission plans between apollo and soviet moon landings. Soviets would send an extra lander to the landing site on another rocket, so incase the lander which lands on the mun breaks down there is a way to get the cosmonauts off the moon, unlike apollo where if the accent module for apollo would break down the 2 astronauts would be stranded to die. In retrospect a Cosmonaut had a higher chance to live after a moon landing then an astronaut.
It's a good thing they made a TV show about this idea! It's called "For All Mankind"
For All Mankind
the soviet lander could only carry one cosmonaut, alexei leonov
A Space Walk in Lunar Orbit? That's Crazy!!
not really. Its the same as a space walk in earth orbit.
@@unownyoutuber9049 I would be extremely dangerous to perform. The cosmonaut would need bungies or railing to keep him from flying away. He would also have to bring a bag of samples and moon rocks on the EVA back.
That was the backup plan for the US if they had problems docking after the moon landing.
How about a video on the planned Soviet lunar base?
7:45 there was only one Apollo-Soyuz mission: the ASTP. This docked the Apollo and Soyuz in Earth orbit, as shown around 4:50.
Fun fact: that’s from for all mankind
A good dramatised version of this question is the show for all man kind its very good
Yes Please!! Make A Video About LK Lander And LOK Moon Orbiter. Little To No Videos Or Information Is Available About The Soviet Moon Programmes.
Great video and awesome channel. I like how both channels have their different and unique vibe
I do like the new voice. Calm and educational
Once the Soviets lost Korolyev, they essentially lost the space race. Too much in-fighting between engineers that replaced him led them to poor and rushed design decisions. Too much beaurocracy and fear from the top. Korolyev was the keystone and primary reason the Soviet space program was so daring and successful. They should have never given up. So what if they were late with the N-1? They could have established a lunar orbiting science station or outpost. They did a magnificent job with the Buran-Energia. Sadly, another fabulous project shelved due to beaurocracy.
Well said. You HAVE been paying attention!
All the Salyut space stations -Mir
At the beginning you imply that there would have been 2 cosmonauts in the LK lander. This is of course incorrect. LK could only carry 1 person.
Love the new narrator!
The N-1 was a five stage rocket, not a three stage rocket. The Blok G was the fourth stage for TLI, and the Blok D was considered the fifth stage.
Yes please ! YOU ARE AMAZING !!!
@escape velocity:
The engine Arrangements of the N1 created an Aerospike effect.
Would it possible to make a video about the Aerospike engines, as were proposed for the never build Venture Star?
(The Venture star would be another video of it's own)
This may have happened the same with the USA, if Von Brun had died in the middle of the Apollo project, US, they would never have reached the Moon, Von Braun was the head of this Apollo project, creator of Sturno V
The Soviets were never close to winning the race to the moon. NASA started on the lunar program in 1961. Thanks to massive funding (4.5% of the US federal budget) they were able to throw a huge amount of resources at the project. The Russian project didn't get started until 1964-65 (they didn't take the US effort seriously at first), and was then hamstrung by lack of money and resources. For example, they didn't build a test stand where they could do all-up tests of the first stage. This was an essential component of the US effort, allowing them to iron out problems with the first stage before the first launch. The Russian alternative was to start launching rockets, and doing their tests with those launches. They were estimating about 14 launches would be needed before getting one to orbit successfully.
there were two reasons to skip the test stand: 1. it cost a lot, both in money and in scarce resources like concrete, and 2. it would take too long to build.
I like that this video was released the day Artemis 1 launched for the moon
By the time N1 is ready to test is kinda too late already. NASA already did all the pre-landing missions like orbiting around the moon and others.
So even if they were really pushing it and no error happened, Apollo 11 would get there first. Only catch-up they can do.
How many people did the Soviet lander carry? Looks like a 1 man ship to me.
it was. I believe later on there was a two man variant but that never flew i don't think
@@unownyoutuber9049 A 1man mission, that would be lonely.
@@loudelk99 it was only 1 man during the landing. The Soyuz would have sat 2 people and one man would have stayed in orbit.
I could listen to this guy all day long..
Luke finally comes out. 🙌
the cosmonaut chosen by the Soviets for the first moon landing was Alexei Leonov
The first to “walk” in space. He almost died when the spacesuit ballooned to big for the airlock. Had to vent precious air supply so he could fit back in.
Still think you should have this channel liste under your channels section on your main channel
I thought the LK lander could only hold one cosmonaut?
Yes and the Soviets Planned to Send Alexei Leonov
the voice is dope
Correction: not russia but soviet union. As we remark now, russia is nothing without its satellite republics.
I believe the big expensive N1 should have been scrapped from the plan
Instead use two soyuz with 5 NK33 engines each
1 has the two man luner soyuz with an extra stage for TLE
2 has the LK & G stage
Both dock in LEO & then do the mission, what do you think?
Awesome video, but contains some mistakes
"Bad Luck"? The problems with the Soviet Lunar program had nothing to do with luck. Between the infighting of Korolev and rival design bureau head Vladimir Chelomi and the severe underfunding by Soviet authorities who didn't care about any rocket that didn't have a warhead, the Soviets never had a chance. You made some nice graphics, but this video is a factual mess.
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0:07 Wladimir Komarow wouldn't go on that mission... Instead, This would be Yurij Gagarin. Yurij Gagarin would stay in the Soyuz 7K-LOK spacecraft. Only Aleksei Leonov would land (the LK Lander had place only for one person).
It seems more like sabotage, than failure.
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If we spent even half the effort to work together than we use slow each other down...
The LK lander was a single cosmonaut vehicle. You speak of astronauts [plural] on the Moon, (should be cosmonaut). So either Gagarin or Kamarov, not both.
Alexi Leonov would have been the first soviet on the moon, Gagarin in orbit.
"Almost a reality" -- that's too optimistic. The Soviets weren't even close to "almost". To synchronize 34 (!!!) liquid fuel-based rocket engines they would've needed avionics from our times. Their rocket, the infamous N-1 would've never worked...
Although this is an entirely different video. I wanted to touch base with the Orion project and hello Micky 👋
Warp tech is not the solution. Thinking about all these immense video footage from UAP's and why most are always out of focus. So I tracked back to what Tesla said about everything having a frequency and came up with the solution but it has never been tested. Vibrations also cause blurs observed by the naked eye, it's one test I would like to see done in the vacuum of space just to get the readings within a north and south magnetic sphere and also against these axis but I'm not an astronaut and obviously just looking at the scales of these UAP's
Disrupting space in order to get through it faster than light is an obtainable goal . We beat the minute mile and surpassed the speed of sound . The challenge is ours to take but being realistic about applications today , it's annoying to see how slow we really are and be comfortable. I'm not , I think even another that you shared in a video presentation , no other than Wernher Von Braun. He himself saw the problem and the technology wasn't available to push for a hybrid system. I've studied even ION systems and read a paper on what one scientist tried . He didn't succeed in getting a greater volume of thrust so I went a step further by watching how the average V8 produces horsepower and decided not to use one but a group of nine all doing the same displacement but the fun factor I'll keep to myself 🤣
Anyways , frequency , mass , speed and vibration are in all these equations from the walking minute mile to supersonic. Just check from your heart rate or anxiety to turbulence pressure on the entry point of supersonic
Just food for thought and if you look on Google images you will find a historical picture of two iconic characters one obviously is Wernher and the other is Walt Disney but what's iconic about this pic is in his hands and in the middle of the frame
A Spaceplane...our direction that will eventually come..
Cheers ..Oh and btw a tuning fork would be needed to conduct the test .we won't hear it but the suprise will be shocking
New voice?
The soviet NK1 was designed to land ONE Cosmonaut on the moon, NOT two. The soviet rocket designer was Sergei Korolyev NOT Korolyov.
Well, actually "Korolyov" is closer to original russian "Королёв" than widely used "Korolev" or "Korolyev".
Oh god it’s happening again
I’m glad America was first the Apollo missions are incredible but I do wish the soviets would have done it as well.
What happens if we were living in the for all mankind timeline
Com tão pouco combustível e base apoio em baixa órbita....faz sentido terem perdido a tecnologia .... nós nao perdemos a das nossas Caravelas, demos a volta ao Mundo e não foi só a NASA a confirmar....
id recommend doing some more research on pronunciation, and research terms, such as how soviet astronauts are called cosmonauts
How much land can you claim at one time? Maybe claim all of it and tell everyone to stay away.
0:08 no juri gugalin
سبحان الله ولا إله إلا الله
What happen? Well... The moon turn red
10.
Lost of inaccurate info in this. There was never a plan for a joint U.S.-USSR moon mission. John F. Kennedy suggested the idea to Krushchev in '61 at the Vienna summit, but the Soviet leader immediately rejected the idea and it was never brought up again. It was not Kennedy's death that ended any such plan.
почему всегда запускают одним кораблём ? нельзя запустить корабль , топливо и затем косманавтов ??
A Rússia não tinha um génio como Stanley Kubrick embora primeiros em tudo menos em dinheiro.
IT IS LIKE 5TH GRADERS WROTE THIS.
The United States got to the Moon first because of the genius German scientist Werner von Braun so proud to be German
Our German scientists were better than their German scientists.
We missed a golden opportunity to take a Soviet cosmonaut to the Moon when Congress canceled the three remaining Apollo Moon missions. Really dumb, especially when you consider they were already built AND payed for.
no way he said sayuz instead of soyuz
the russians called it SOYUZ
question: do you use AI voice?
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They also lost their main engineer, and the guy who took over didn't like his ways of doing things so the N1 was doomed, I forget there names
The Main Engineer Was SERGEI KOROLEV And The Guy Who Took Over Was VASILY MISHIN.
If the Soviets had done it instead there'd be less hoax talk.
Yes, well, they didnt!
Why what if? I saw in TV that Russia was first on the moon and North Korea first on Mars. When it was shown in TV it must be reality.
In Season 4, Cuba will be the first to reach Pluto
@@chrisgaming9567 I love the show. It has some lengths and of course always the same people playing the main role over decades which is very unlikely. But I can't await what comes next. And I believe what TV shows is reality. 😉
First words of the Cosmonauts on the Moon:
"Я делаю этот шаг ради своей страны, своего народа и ради марксистско-ленинского образа жизни. Зная, что сегодня - всего лишь маленький шаг на пути, который когда-нибудь приведет нас всех к звездам."
A translation to English
"I take this step, for my country, for my people, and for the Marxist-Leninist way of life. Knowing that today is but a small step on a journey that will someday take us all, to the stars"
I’d be happy for the Russians today if they put a man on the moon. I would still be glad we got there ahead of them. There is still plenty of room for them and us and anyone else there today in any case.
0:06 its already wrong
first both cosmonauts cannot be the first humans on the surfuce of the moon because lk lander was designed only to carry one people at the time
second komarov was already dead
third gagarin was dead too (or very soon he will die idr)
fourth it was most likely for aleksiej leonov to fly there
fifth learn how to spell russian names
4:53 Historically they were white on that mission. Why is the astronaut black?
its from a tv show with a different timeline.
I notice that your voice has changed, you must have reached puberty??
Bet the Russians wouldn't of taken 50 years to go back
why would have lost interest like the Americans. they barley had enough money as is and far more pressing matters to deal with on earth
1=1😂🎉
I just wish N1 would have worked so that SpaceX couldn't take credit for their tech
Even if the N1 rocket had worked, the soviets going to the moon would at best been a one way mission. Why ? 1. The soviets' had NEVER docked two space crafts together in space. The had no experience at all with doing this. The US in turn had done this many times with Gemini. 2. The soviets had no way to track the position of their space craft in space. NASA built a large number of tracking stations all over the world. NASA new where Apollo was with in 30 feet at all times during the missions. 3. the Apollo computers were the first to use ingrate circuits, the most advanced computer of its time. It told the space craft how, when, and where to fly in real time with out breaking down. This had never been done before and the soviets had no idea where to even begin doing this. Had the Soviets' launched a lunar mission in 1967, the result would have been dead cosmonauts.
It's not bad luck that stopped Soviets from getting a man to the Moon - it's terrible design of their N1 rocket.
Just a bunch of lies
FALSE INFORMATION
Don't like this narrator, can't listen to his voice
😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢lm sad why did the Soviet Union fail to go to the moon 🌙 😢😢 😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢so sad