yeah , cause losing a match because you had your elbow 1mm up for 0.2 secs is fucking disguisting . fuck this shit . we want a match of streangth not techicalities
@@jimjimmy3131 yeah that can be dealt with thats not an excuse for the shit we are seeing now we could call that "shake" or something and allow it.rules make the game no point if ppl can cheat all they want and are encouraged to do so. result 1:get huge advantage and win. result 2: get a foul but more likely not to happen if you do it right and even if it does you need 3 of those to lose 1 match.
They do replays in WAL but for some realllyyy weird reason their camera angles are so shit. Even in the replays you can't tell whether or not something was a pin because the angles are so off.
The toproll in the second match was so fast, if John wasn't able to stop it Taras would've won in 0,6/0,7 secs. Insane, the problem is that when you stop that it, Taras is done.
Couldn't agree more!! He is pretty damn good arm wrestler too!!! Love that guy!!! Wish he would enter some of these tournaments!!! Idk if he is hurt or just retired?? One of the best matches I've ever seen was him and Michael Todd!!!
@@dqreps If conditioned they only prevent the themselves from tearing. In any case that's irrelevant to this discussion since the guy clearly claimed (before deleting his comment) that the difference in power comes from "strength of tendons".
@@lepe hello hello, I cant see the original comment you're replying too, but just wanted to say that attachment points for tendons can make an absolutely huge difference on the leverage in a given exercise.
John won just because he cleverly used fouls to tire out the explosiveness of Taras. A less smart armwrestler would have been shattered by that toproll. By the way, Voevoda did toy with that version of Taras the same way he did with John at Zloty. Izy peezy.
It is unreal how strong John Brzenk is!!! He can arm wrestle from every position against anyone at anytime!!! That guy he just beat is unbelievably good and he had no chance if John is on his A Game!!! 👌💪 I could watch this dude's videos of him WHIPPING ASS all day long!!! Greatest Ever NO DOUBT!!! 🤷♂️💪👌
@19:30 _listen carefully to the background music_ - outer space kind of music is hidden which ends @19:43 really weird to hear that with all the other noise & voices - cool
@@oriondx72besides levan which he cant beat he only faced smaller guys to have his advantage in style. He wont beat most super heavys even if hes rank2.
You can see an elbow foul by John @14:06 (freeze) { _this was not caught by Neil Pickup or the Euro judges - and that number is recorded on the video @00:00:28
Taras would have pinned him multiple times if John didnt foul to absorb all that devastating toproll explosive power. John probably did it on purpose: such a high table IQ.
He had 25 years of going undefeated in supermatches. He would lose a pullor two, but nobody managed to beat him in a best-of fight in 25 goddamned years. He was undefeatable until injuries and old age got to him.
There are some visible mutants in armwrestling, but I believe John is a bit of a mutant himself even though you can't see it. He has probably above normal human muscle acceleration. There was this little guy in Stan Lee's superhumans that did incredible feats of strength that just seemed impossible especially for his size. The scientists then found out his secret to that was his superhuman muscle acceleration.
@@Dylan-pt1iv Doubt that, unless he started professional arm-wrestling at 7. But anyway that's even worst, because then it means he is ill intended. That elbow being raised that much gives enormous advantage that is also why you will not see anywhere that position being accepted.
@Craig Laycox Don’t fool yourself buddy, Brzenk himself has admitted that after a certain point (vs taras he had started) he was on gear..injecting testosterone is gear you know that right?
i hate these bs too strict elbow foul calls, let them pull ffs wal is just much better, they just need to change pads-they are too big and be more strict about the kings move
He keeps running out of a match by slipping his hand out. If ur really the best then you should be able to win with out slipping and trying to get into a strap every match.
Auto MD Dont embarrass yourself idiot. Statistically John is better at arm wrestling than Ali was at boxing. That’s not even my opinion, it’s statistical fact. You kids have no fucking clue how good John was.
@Mike its ironic you talking being an idiot while thats the only word that describes you. Even the commentator is saying the Ukrainian deserved the win. Don talk about something you don't know about. Go and work on ur forearm the only way you know.
It's actually true, john at that time needed the straps or he would lose his wrist, i wouldn't call this guy an idiot, it's a simple observation, in this case john is actually smart enough *not* to try to beat taras outside of the straps because fast strong top rollers have a huge advantage outside of straps, john is smart here by slipping
In 2005 they had Video proof for elbow fouls, and 2019 they don't 😂😂
Yeah!!
They also used to have a laser right in the middle of the table to make sure nobody is more turned in
yeah , cause losing a match because you had your elbow 1mm up for 0.2 secs is fucking disguisting . fuck this shit . we want a match of streangth not techicalities
@@jimjimmy3131 yeah that can be dealt with thats not an excuse for the shit we are seeing now we could call that "shake" or something and allow it.rules make the game no point if ppl can cheat all they want and are encouraged to do so. result 1:get huge advantage and win. result 2: get a foul but more likely not to happen if you do it right and even if it does you need 3 of those to lose 1 match.
They do replays in WAL but for some realllyyy weird reason their camera angles are so shit. Even in the replays you can't tell whether or not something was a pin because the angles are so off.
Taras and John's matches are stuff of legend. If they had arm wrestled a million times, I'd watch them all.
Taras was the most aestheically built armwrestler. The guy's physique was next level.
It wasn't natural or sustainable, but yes
@@casualcausalityy Nobody said he was natural. Roids alone don't make muscles look like that, you need the right genetics.
Taras Ivakin has an amazing top roll. Hats off.
One of the best I've ever seen. Total beast
Rykehuss it's not a top roll btw
The toproll in the second match was so fast, if John wasn't able to stop it Taras would've won in 0,6/0,7 secs. Insane, the problem is that when you stop that it, Taras is done.
unicorns a myth john brezenk is real
Best announcer in all pro sports
John Brzenk is made for armwrestling
U mean to say born for armwrestling
@@iarif19 No, made.
Neil is such a great commentator.
@Wostershire
Agree
Indeed
Couldn't agree more!! He is pretty damn good arm wrestler too!!! Love that guy!!! Wish he would enter some of these tournaments!!! Idk if he is hurt or just retired?? One of the best matches I've ever seen was him and Michael Todd!!!
Compared to the "look at this, look at that!"
The guy could sell ice to Eskimoes. He is a smooth talker for sure.
Even with the Ivakin elbow foul pulling off the back of the pad John was still in control both times... Greatest of all time.
Brzenk an ordinary looking engineer man with a out of this world strength! Brzenk is the ordinary beast!!!
41 cm forearm its ordinary looking? Don't agree
what impresses me about brzenk the most is his enormous back
@@metafull Absolute nonsense, tendons don't produce any mechanical strength.
@@dqreps If conditioned they only prevent the themselves from tearing. In any case that's irrelevant to this discussion since the guy clearly claimed (before deleting his comment) that the difference in power comes from "strength of tendons".
@@lepe hello hello, I cant see the original comment you're replying too, but just wanted to say that attachment points for tendons can make an absolutely huge difference on the leverage in a given exercise.
Always loved this match.
''When you have smoke and a lady with very little cloths on you have good life''
Dude what?
Taras looks like jeff cavalier from athlean x
True af
looks like ryan gosling
Kandai no.
hell nah, all those muscle imbalences
hhahhahhahaaha lmao
At this time, Brzenk was the only one in the world that could do what he did here to Taras
Voevoda Cyplenkov could easily beat Taras
Cyplenkov can't be toprolled by Taras
John won just because he cleverly used fouls to tire out the explosiveness of Taras. A less smart armwrestler would have been shattered by that toproll. By the way, Voevoda did toy with that version of Taras the same way he did with John at Zloty. Izy peezy.
Dark Demon not the same class
Ron Bath beat Taras in the 2004 and 2006...
Ahh 2005...those were the days
It is unreal how strong John Brzenk is!!! He can arm wrestle from every position against anyone at anytime!!! That guy he just beat is unbelievably good and he had no chance if John is on his A Game!!! 👌💪 I could watch this dude's videos of him WHIPPING ASS all day long!!! Greatest Ever NO DOUBT!!! 🤷♂️💪👌
No doubt John brzenk has been in next level
When John lost his hand and wrist, held him, and then downshifted and plowed right through everything Ivakin had, he looked Unstoppable
That was such a crazy moment. You just don't do that against Ivakin and yet he did it.
Legendary Match
3:18 16 inch forearms meaning 41 cm . And 2:55 Taras had 17 inch forearms meaning 44 cm.
Ron Bath Second place? Impressive!! At the time, he was one of the best in the world.
the comment Neil made about the "ladies" would not fly now lol
IMO not even this version of John could beat Voevoda. Still too close with Taras and to be honest this is a controversial win; this match is so close.
WoW.The Legendary battle!
john brzenk what a champion what a guy :-}
15:25 crazy!
I know I didn't expect that! It kind of looked like Brzenk just simply wasn't ready on the word go. Still, very impressive by Ivakin.
His forearm got bent a bit.
Top roll ftw. No strap needed. Cleanest Win.
Yeah.......
Taras Ivakin is the Toproll master
John fantastic Body and Power Control. Strong Body tension
08:08 commentator knows what life is about haha x'D
hes hilarious lol
As a +40 yo, John looked so much younger than his age 👍
taras got some lucky wins there..john was in a league of his own at the time..no question.
jhon blocked all hit attacks lifting his elbow and going in straps, in my book taras is there.
yeah u definetely win some match against the best of all time by luck... what a fucking joke of a person commenting nowadays on ty
@Time Abyss +1
It's so weird to hear Neil Pickup in both ears, I got used to him sitting uncomfortably close to my right.
Джон - красавец, но он очень медленный...приходится иметь многократный запас силы, вытаскивая скорострелов от подушки, но в его крюке дохнут микробы))
Devon should beware. I like him more than John because of his energy but the GOAT is the GOAT for a reason
I like the PAL great officiating they called every foul unlike in other arm wrestling associations.
@19:30 _listen carefully to the background music_ - outer space kind of music is hidden which ends @19:43 really weird to hear that with all the other noise & voices - cool
Ivakin defeatet larratt
@dvr1337 yup , smoked Larratt
@@Alex-1750 when was this? couldn't been lately as larratt is a beast now.
@@oriondx72besides levan which he cant beat he only faced smaller guys to have his advantage in style. He wont beat most super heavys even if hes rank2.
41 years old . . . PLEASE not possible
Explain your reasoning. John was 41 in 2005. He was born in 1964...it's basic math.
The real deal. The best
The game over and over estoped
This is a great referee if Michael todd was here he got no chance to win
Iconic Intro Music
john is proof of full american muscle in arm wresaling
You can see an elbow foul by John @14:06 (freeze) { _this was not caught by Neil Pickup or the Euro judges - and that number is recorded on the video @00:00:28
he try to hook john AHAHHAHAHA
ahmet saral ahahahah so funny shut the fuck up pussy bitch
Birthdxys lmao love you
@@mirai4652 shut up yourself its funny evil one.
He put 100kg on opposite hand !!!
Brzenk 180cm? you kiddin' right?
185
Yeah i know man look at the video
185
insane wrist strength
Ждём Ивакина в топ 8
Хорошо Тарас разок выиграл чистенько, красиво.
No way can this version of john can best dennis of 2018 and current levan.
What a stupid rules, when you understand that your lose, you should get out from pad, and then you do not lose.
Jaśiu to Mistrz nad Mistrze.
Never seen so many fouls in a match
Remember when they used to give elbow fouls
Undertabler : u can't pin me
PAL doesnt fool around with these fouls
Michael Todd would be screwed
'Introdukin' 3:22
Epic!
Джон красава!
Always like 👍 👍
10:49 WTH he eyes
He almost transformed. Almost.
Belarus 2020 Zabudova
4:27 5:58 12:13 13:50 17:28 если бы судьи не закрывали глаза на эти фоли то Тарас выиграл бы этот армфайт
Holy cow, enough with the elbow fouls, let them pull FFS
These fouls 😭
The microscopic elbow fouls make the sport worse . In my opinion.
Taras would have pinned him multiple times if John didnt foul to absorb all that devastating toproll explosive power. John probably did it on purpose: such a high table IQ.
Time Abyss I don’t necessarily believe that . The way that John was able to hold and then pin Taras makes me believe the elbow fowls were accidental.
4:27 john brzenk elbow faul
Брзенк видно силнее
John ended his career
lol no
I almost believe this John can beat Devon’s Tcyplenkov......
GOAT
Apart from having the perfect height, I don't get how John is the best armwrestler ever
He had 25 years of going undefeated in supermatches. He would lose a pullor two, but nobody managed to beat him in a best-of fight in 25 goddamned years. He was undefeatable until injuries and old age got to him.
@@vladimirgertner3960 You don't understand. I literally mean, how is he the best ? How does he do it ???
@@alexandervouzenthal8163 lol
There are some visible mutants in armwrestling, but I believe John is a bit of a mutant himself even though you can't see it. He has probably above normal human muscle acceleration. There was this little guy in Stan Lee's superhumans that did incredible feats of strength that just seemed impossible especially for his size. The scientists then found out his secret to that was his superhuman muscle acceleration.
6:06 john brzenk faul
These lady drive me crazy xD, i can't focus on the fight.
Brzenk is look like a russian Ukraine ethnicity
Roids and powder can give you mass and size but not strength but only real food and proper training
Huh?? Taras was strong enough to beat anyone but Brzenk superior technic
@sagar gupta
Wrong
Mass= muscles and muscles=strength
Tendon strengthening is another chapter..
"No advantage really gain" from lifting the elbow 4 cm at the start :)), I guess the guy who is commenting the match never arm-wrestled...
@@Dylan-pt1iv Doubt that, unless he started professional arm-wrestling at 7. But anyway that's even worst, because then it means he is ill intended. That elbow being raised that much gives enormous advantage that is also why you will not see anywhere that position being accepted.
ivakin and his classic false starts and steroids
@Craig Laycox
Don’t fool yourself buddy,
Brzenk himself has admitted that after a certain point (vs taras he had started) he was on gear..injecting testosterone is gear you know that right?
@Craig Laycox You killed me with the vegan part dude HAHAHAHHAHAHAH
GuiTaras loses
All of these john wins becouse that time there was not levan saginashvili🤒
i hate these bs too strict elbow foul calls, let them pull ffs
wal is just much better, they just need to change pads-they are too big and be more strict about the kings move
Taras was injured and had a bad year....
Nove Hracky STFU with your stupid and pathetic excuses you fucking loser.
Actually, he never had victories over John, so, it's ok
Tfu u commie
Yeah, injury to his ego after his loss to Brzenk.
You happened to trigger a lot of fuctards inbred morons. Good job dude.
He keeps running out of a match by slipping his hand out. If ur really the best then you should be able to win with out slipping and trying to get into a strap every match.
Auto MD Dont embarrass yourself idiot. Statistically John is better at arm wrestling than Ali was at boxing. That’s not even my opinion, it’s statistical fact. You kids have no fucking clue how good John was.
@Mike its ironic you talking being an idiot while thats the only word that describes you. Even the commentator is saying the Ukrainian deserved the win. Don talk about something you don't know about. Go and work on ur forearm the only way you know.
It's actually true, john at that time needed the straps or he would lose his wrist, i wouldn't call this guy an idiot, it's a simple observation, in this case john is actually smart enough *not* to try to beat taras outside of the straps because fast strong top rollers have a huge advantage outside of straps, john is smart here by slipping
The straps are the best proof of who of both is the real STRONGEST guy on the table. Has always been like that.
You're absolutely right, the problem is that having straps can be a huge advantage in some scenarios so when everyone do it you have to do it too.