Forced into AMISH Settlement, Narrowly Escaped Bishop Ab*ser

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  • @theartfuldodger5326
    @theartfuldodger5326 6 місяців тому +127

    SA should not be protected by freedom of religion. Thank you for sharing your story. ❤

    • @fabigrossi2976
      @fabigrossi2976 6 місяців тому +11

      In Germany we have freedom of Religion as well, of course. But every Religion has to obey the laws of the country, no matter what your Religion allows you to do or demands. The law of the country is above anything else.

  • @CallmeMelinanow
    @CallmeMelinanow 6 місяців тому +370

    Hello, ladies! I am an adult who was raised in a strict JW family and community in the 1980’s and 1990’s. My parents were converts in the 70’s, and I was born into the religion. I ended up leaving at 26, with my daughter. My mother was mentally ill, and abusive, and my elder father was never there. When the Ruby Franke case hit, I really resonated with it, and have been binge watching a lot of content like this to help me with my own healing journey. I feel the same as you when I realize how much religious abuse still happens everyday, and we need to talk about it!! These monsters don’t get to hide behind the Bible, or religion anymore! Thank you for sharing your story! ❤

    • @jeannerountree952
      @jeannerountree952 6 місяців тому +14

      I don’t know if you have followed any of the content regarding Mormons religion. It’s very interesting topic. Shalice has on a lot of former Mormons.
      earlier this week a house blew up somewhere in Utah. It killed one elderly woman and another 82 year old woman survived. The 82-year-old was helped by her neighbors and the first thing she said was I hope this doesn’t interfere with my temple recommend .

    • @CultstoConsciousness
      @CultstoConsciousness  6 місяців тому +23

      Thank you for sharing. You are not alone.❤️

    • @CallmeMelinanow
      @CallmeMelinanow 6 місяців тому +11

      @@CultstoConsciousness thank you so much!! I appreciate everything you do, and it’s helping me on my journey. ❤️

    • @eliwilliamson7849
      @eliwilliamson7849 6 місяців тому +14

      Me too. Raised JW from age four. My mom died when I was 28 and I married a “worldly man” so I didn’t go back to the Kingdom Hall after that.

    • @CallmeMelinanow
      @CallmeMelinanow 6 місяців тому +12

      @@eliwilliamson7849 oh, my! My mom died when I was almost 26, and then I left. Sending lots of hugs and good thoughts!

  • @jennaxoxox4821
    @jennaxoxox4821 6 місяців тому +91

    Sending a child away or throwing them out of the house with the expectation that the child will fail and be forced to beg to return under even worse conditions is VERY common. My mother threw me out with the clothes on my back at 16. I thrived.

  • @katwitanruna
    @katwitanruna 6 місяців тому +212

    BTW thanks for filming so many videos at the end of your pregnancy so that we can still see you while you and yours bond with new life.

  • @crystalwalline6670
    @crystalwalline6670 6 місяців тому +99

    Hearing you say, "It just so happens that the detective that was brought in [to investigate the abuse of the Bishop's children] was reading my book," brought tears to my eyes and took my breath away. What a powerful illustration of the difference one person can make. I was so moved. Brava!
    ETA: Petition signed!

  • @maskichef
    @maskichef 6 місяців тому +157

    the impact and importance of this channel is incredible......

    • @uncleanunicorn4571
      @uncleanunicorn4571 6 місяців тому +1

      Definitely. Claims about God/Jesus won't trick me, but she also had a guest from the nexium cult, Who claimed to be a business consultant, That's something anyone could fall pray to.

    • @annadrift4
      @annadrift4 6 місяців тому +3

      I can't comment this enough on all the videos. Bad people use these high demand religions to take advantage of the cover it gives them. For decades no one has made public the abuses happen and they continue. This channel, brave survivors, and other platforms are definitely going to save or help other good and vulnerable people.

  • @guadalupecastillo1081
    @guadalupecastillo1081 6 місяців тому +106

    I believe every adult, no matter who or what, should be a mandated reporter, and held accountable if they fail to report any type of abuse, it's time for kids voices to be heard and be believed

    • @giabarrone7422
      @giabarrone7422 4 місяці тому

      I didn’t realize how backwards the mandatory reporting laws were, until hearing it spelled out in this video. How does it benefit society to allow the majority of citizens not to report child abuse? I’m starting to see why conspiracy nuts think the government is involved in child sex trafficking. All citizens should be legally required to report violent crimes against children.

    • @waffles3629
      @waffles3629 3 місяці тому +3

      Same. If you are a mentally competent adult you should be required to report abuse.

  • @NaokoKawaii
    @NaokoKawaii 6 місяців тому +103

    It is horrible how rampant child abuse is everywhere. People love to pretend it is common knowledge how precious children are but I cannot help but think those are hollow words knowing how common child abuse is. As a teacher and childhood abuse survivor myself, I strive to be the safe space my students deserve 💕

    • @CultstoConsciousness
      @CultstoConsciousness  6 місяців тому +9

      ❤️❤️❤️

    • @rasberries566
      @rasberries566 6 місяців тому +2

      ❤️

    • @ritamariekelley4077
      @ritamariekelley4077 6 місяців тому +3

      Me, too and me too. I felt being a survivor made me a more compassionate teacher.

    • @serendipidus8482
      @serendipidus8482 3 місяці тому

      Nice. Yes its so insanely common and really seems hard to spot. Especially in a country like america where kids don't even have the privilege of being entitled to go to school where at least teachers might notice or having no regular check ups for kids ... its wild west out there and predators love it. Its much harder in countries that have a social welfare system that actually means people end up observed if there has been any report by a teacher or doctor and they also seem to support people who are just incompetent ...so someone who's struggling doesn't feel scared to ask for help whereas úsa cos seems to also neglect helping parents who need help. You might like a book called poor by an irish lady who became a policy changer and her teachers were her life savers. Its written and read by her. And her story is so many peoples story.

  • @bryonyvaughn2427
    @bryonyvaughn2427 6 місяців тому +94

    I grew up in a heavily Mennonite area and spend the first half of my adulthood in a heavily Amish area. Having found your channel from other IBLP survivors, I am even more grateful for the huge public service you are doing by interviewing survivors and amplifying their voices. You are truly doing “the Lord’s work.”❤❤❤

    • @CultstoConsciousness
      @CultstoConsciousness  6 місяців тому +13

      Thank you for being here and supporting!🙏

    • @mipsan
      @mipsan 6 місяців тому +9

      In many of these stories it's the neighbours or someone near the community that is able to help the victims escape. I hope that speaking up makes people take more notice, in case someone they know is in need of help.

    • @Christi80sLover
      @Christi80sLover 6 місяців тому +4

      @bryonyvaughn2427! Yesssss! “The Lord’s Work”. The way it should always be done……from the heart. @CultstoConsciousness
      Thank you from the bottom of my heart for everything you guys do. 🩷✨
      My heart breaks deeply for these people. Such brave souls. 🩷

    • @serendipidus8482
      @serendipidus8482 3 місяці тому

      Hmmm shes doing the work of a decent human being. The lord can do the lords work.

    • @bryonyvaughn2427
      @bryonyvaughn2427 3 місяці тому

      @@serendipidus8482, hence the quotation marks.

  • @sourgummiez
    @sourgummiez 6 місяців тому +71

    The random citizens who help these people in these cults to get help, to find somewhere to stay, to drive them to safety.....man it gives me chills. We are living in a world where so few people care enough about anyone to help them, to look into what's going on and take actions. Those people are true angels

  • @shelbyvexler4883
    @shelbyvexler4883 6 місяців тому +48

    Misty's pursuit of her education, in spite of everything, is truly remarkable. I read her book, and when she gets her GED- I've never been more proud of a stranger. And now she's getting her masters!

  • @debraallender7444
    @debraallender7444 6 місяців тому +46

    I'm so glad Misty mentioned the Amish romance novels. I've read over the past two decades many of them and took the idyllic, wholesome lifestyle as fact. How ridiculous of me! This channel has opened my eyes to sooooo much! Thank you Misty and the other men and women like you who are speaking out. I feel so guilty for believing the Amish were (as a whole) good people! I'm sure many are. But there are many changes which need to be made to protect the innocent! Sex education for one is a basic requirement. That would really help!
    I'm eager to check out your book Misty. Thank you for revealing your sad, horrific early life. I wish saying I'm sorry would help! I truly am and your story breaks my heart. You are making a huge difference in your life!

    • @marshacleff1475
      @marshacleff1475 6 місяців тому +4

      I feel like I could have written this comment word for word!!!

    • @CultstoConsciousness
      @CultstoConsciousness  6 місяців тому +7

      Thank you for sharing that! Many of us have been shocked by this as well. Having a change of heart after new information is presented is all that counts ❤️

    • @lisataylor-doherty1520
      @lisataylor-doherty1520 6 місяців тому +2

      I remember watching a series on TLC a few years ago about people breaking free from the amish. I always just thought people left because of the strict rules and wanting a change. The fact that there was more going on just blows my mind and breaks my heart.

  • @Leggiebeans
    @Leggiebeans 6 місяців тому +33

    Police need to be held accountable and outed when they ignore stuff like people being assaulted

  • @katwitanruna
    @katwitanruna 6 місяців тому +107

    Break the silence. Break the cycle.

    • @Exiled.New.Yorker
      @Exiled.New.Yorker 6 місяців тому +6

      Silence = Death

    • @WillowT442
      @WillowT442 6 місяців тому +1

      We can’t break the cycle until the United States stops protecting religions by not taxing churches and seeing religious groups as harmless. The internet is helping to uncover abuse in all religions, Catholic, Baptist. It is just a matter of time before scandals from other mainstream religions come to light. C

    • @CryBlueofZ
      @CryBlueofZ 6 місяців тому +2

      FREEDOM FROM THE WHEEL

  • @ColleenZuntag
    @ColleenZuntag 6 місяців тому +46

    Signed the petition. I agree wholeheartedly that kids are a marginalized demographic in the world. I know liberal folks that think it’s okay to hit kids but wouldn’t hit an adult. Parents need to learn new tools of discipline. This needs to change. I appreciate you both bringing this to the public.

    • @CultstoConsciousness
      @CultstoConsciousness  6 місяців тому +6

      Agreed!

    • @lizadeeza
      @lizadeeza 6 місяців тому

      Liberal parents are hardly ones to hit their kids. Sick people hit their kids on all sides. And unfortunately many cult-like Christians beat their kids because they believe " spare the rod and spoil the kids."

  • @jeannerountree952
    @jeannerountree952 6 місяців тому +68

    It sounds like the bishop kept his wife from getting medical help.

    • @lesliesteele3926
      @lesliesteele3926 4 місяці тому

      I wouldn't be surprised if he was poisoning her. Plenty of natural herbs are dangerous and a little bit of knowledge paired with THAT kind of control ...

    • @itsalwaysteatime3803
      @itsalwaysteatime3803 3 місяці тому

      Sounds like he was giving her herbs to induce more seizures.
      Even large sizes of CBD hemp oil would have controlled her seizures alot but I'm sure hemp oil would be akin to the devil to such a strict religious community.

    • @julieproctor6039
      @julieproctor6039 Місяць тому

      Amish do not get medical care or dental care or prenatal care. You live or you die.

  • @SunDreamer555
    @SunDreamer555 6 місяців тому +80

    The amount of women & children that have been abused by men in a position of power in religion is sad. The fact that many victims didn’t say anything out of fear of consequences and for these men to not seek help from the very religion that is allegedly supposed to make you a better person shows that religion doesn’t always work. They instill fear to do things to not go to hell yet they make their own lives and everyone around them hell thru their actions. They beat their chest about God and Jesus Christ yet they do not live righteously.

    • @BevForseth
      @BevForseth 6 місяців тому +1

      Thank you for sharing your story. God bless you for your courage and strength of character. ❤

    • @iamahorsenut7541
      @iamahorsenut7541 6 місяців тому

      Churches are filled with misogyny, and it's even known the early Church Fathers belittled women with comments such as women are half a man, women are the gateway to hell etc. Then twisting Scriptures about women being submissive and keeping silent in Church. I'm a Christian and I love the Lord Jesus Christ His treatment of women was revolutionary for it's time. Yet over and over again men in the Church are abusing their positions of power by silencing of women, silencing their thoughts and needs , and treating women as inferior. I stopped going to any Church for this reason because even in 2024 the Church is still far behind in treating women respectfully. I stilfollow my Lord Jesus Christ and am doing postgraduate in Theology and Philosophy and am hoping to write books etc about these situations and how to change these cycles of abuse to women in Churches. Boys need to be brought up to be responsible for their behaviour and not to treat females as second class beings.

    • @iamahorsenut7541
      @iamahorsenut7541 6 місяців тому

      Churches are filled with misogyny, and it's even known the early Church Fathers belittled women with comments such as women are half a man, women are the gateway to hell etc. Then twisting Scriptures about women being submissive and keeping silent in Church. I'm a Christian and I love the Lord Jesus Christ His treatment of women was revolutionary for it's time. Yet over and over again men in the Church are abusing their positions of power by silencing of women, silencing their thoughts and needs , and treating women as inferior. I stopped going to any Church for this reason because even in 2024 the Church is still far behind in treating women respectfully. I stilfollow my Lord Jesus Christ and am doing postgraduate in Theology and Philosophy and am hoping to write books etc about these situations and how to change these cycles of abuse to women in Churches. Boys need to be brought up to be responsible for their behaviour and not to treat females as second class beings.

    • @iamahorsenut7541
      @iamahorsenut7541 6 місяців тому

      Churches are filled with misogyny, and it's even known the early Church Fathers belittled women with comments such as women are half a man, women are the gateway to hell etc. Then twisting Scriptures about women being submissive and keeping silent in Church. I'm a Christian and I love the Lord Jesus Christ His treatment of women was revolutionary for it's time. Yet over and over again men in the Church are abusing their positions of power by silencing of women, silencing their thoughts and needs , and treating women as inferior. I stopped going to any Church for this reason because even in 2024 the Church is still far behind in treating women respectfully. I stilfollow my Lord Jesus Christ and am doing postgraduate in Theology and Philosophy and am hoping to write books etc about these situations and how to change these cycles of abuse to women in Churches. Boys need to be brought up to be responsible for their behaviour and not to treat females as second class beings.

    • @BridgetWalker-xu8sw
      @BridgetWalker-xu8sw 3 місяці тому

      Religion never works.

  • @WhosaidIrene
    @WhosaidIrene 6 місяців тому +54

    10 years prison for the amount of devastation 🤦🏻‍♀️ But it’s a start and I recognize how very monumental it is for a prison sentence at all in many high demand religions.

    • @jeannerountree952
      @jeannerountree952 6 місяців тому +2

      Hopefully this man will be elderly when he gets out and will have less contact with women and children.

    • @Maruzzela-l1u
      @Maruzzela-l1u 6 місяців тому +2

      She s very brave .i m so happy these ppl exist among us
      .i share the same line of thinking .i always believed its the kids that need to be educated learn to self protect .and first of all be libetated from sexual shame .thats the worst part ..that makes someone stumble and be startled instead of fight back rightaway .makes someone put up with a lot and then sob helpless alone and in shame ..its horrible .
      Society has turned shamelessly unethical when instead of our natural instict of protecting our young ones ppl look the other way (.i mean i ve seen a lioness protect a small deer .cats ,young ducklings ,a chicken keeping warm a kitten .kittens suckling from dogs ..)
      the second thing is stop making children to bow down be kind and comply to anybody except the truth

    • @CryBlueofZ
      @CryBlueofZ 6 місяців тому +3

      If the inmates find out about his charges, he'll be in for HELL. I'd say let them know first day.

  • @AmyBarton-pp4nd
    @AmyBarton-pp4nd 6 місяців тому +35

    I was not raised in a strict community or have no personal affiliation to anyone who was (I suffered differently) but the stories of the survivors of these "religions" or "groups" has just taken ahold of me! I had NO IDEA that these were the kinds of things REALLY happening behind the walls of these "churches". My heart breaks for each and everyone who has suffered at the hands of these monsters!

    • @uncleanunicorn4571
      @uncleanunicorn4571 6 місяців тому

      And no god shows up to defend them.

    • @ryangarrard3135
      @ryangarrard3135 6 місяців тому

      There never will be. We need to do right and good by each other, that's for sure.

  • @christinamitchell7901
    @christinamitchell7901 6 місяців тому +6

    Thank you for sharing your story. Hearing you talk about that mindset that adult survivors of child abuse get - the “I can handle this” mindset - really hit home. So many children don’t even realize what they are experiencing is not normal and grow to accept future abuse because of it and we need more people making sure that those children know that abuse is not normal, it’s not okay, and they have a right to be safe.

  • @jennab2399
    @jennab2399 6 місяців тому +18

    Her story is amazing and I’m so grateful she chose to share it with the world. Misty’s perseverance and courage in the face of all that abuse is incredible! I despise the free pass given to the Amish communities. I’ve been encouraging all of my mandated reporter friends to read her story so they can be aware and report anything suspicious.

  • @NurseKat-3893
    @NurseKat-3893 6 місяців тому +14

    Misty you will be an amazing nurse! I was a nurse for 20yrs before becoming disabled, and nurses who have overcome hardships have a special compassion that no book can teach. You will make a difference in many lives ❤

  • @ritamariekelley4077
    @ritamariekelley4077 6 місяців тому +3

    Emma, You're awesome! I have wanted to do a documentary on child abuse, which gets so little attention. It's ubiquitous and causes most of societies' problems. I'm a survivor and this channel is very important to me/my recovery. Shelise, you've done it again, another fantastic guest. Emma, you are doing untold good for kids all over the world. I'll sign and post your petition everywhere I can.

  • @Shell-s4d
    @Shell-s4d 3 місяці тому +3

    What a horrific young life😢 from the parents to the Amish Dad 😭 The Detective reading her book and knowing the family...mindblowing!!! The children being in contact again...mindblowing!!! I ❤ this woman and I'm so proud of her❤

  • @WillowT442
    @WillowT442 6 місяців тому +183

    This will be a controversial comment: I do not think that any religion is safe for women and children. I was raised in a mainstream Protestant religion. Male high school teachers took advantage of their teen students at the Lutheran high school. The teen girls were interrogated and blamed over the male adults who were harassing the teen girls.

    • @RayneBubble.
      @RayneBubble. 6 місяців тому +15

      💯💯💯

    • @mikkibates7854
      @mikkibates7854 6 місяців тому +18

      That school was completely wrong and dangerous. Others come to the aid of victims and have stronger protective standards for children. It really is time for churches to realize that predators can prey on children in places that are too trusting of people who volunteer.

    • @LBellatrix
      @LBellatrix 6 місяців тому +1

      Religion was created by men to benefit men. I no longer claim any religion.

    • @AlexLightGiver
      @AlexLightGiver 6 місяців тому

      Mary Magdalene was the lead Disciple of Christ. The church will not recognize this truth. There you go..a woman of importance to Jesus and they don't care

    • @AlexLightGiver
      @AlexLightGiver 6 місяців тому +15

      Religion places barriers between God and his people when none truly exist

  • @teresagnadinger335
    @teresagnadinger335 6 місяців тому +33

    Sexual offenders usually get less time than drug offenders

    • @MisterSisterFister666
      @MisterSisterFister666 5 місяців тому

      I know a guy who raped a girl and groped a few others. He only got 18 fucking months. I hate this world sometimes.

    • @julieproctor6039
      @julieproctor6039 Місяць тому

      Because the value of children is less.

  • @janiceyoder621
    @janiceyoder621 6 місяців тому +16

    I listened to Misty's story on another podcast years ago and then bought and read the book on Kindle. And to think her book came full circle and she was able to get an update on the bishop's children! Amazing. That book was meant to be.

  • @WhosaidIrene
    @WhosaidIrene 6 місяців тому +20

    Sitting here in my LA apartment on a usually rainy morning with my coffee ☕️ listening to you both. I read Misty Griffins book years ago and emailed her and messaged her on Twitter. She’s a real gem 💎 Thank you thank you Misty Griffins and Salise❤

  • @ellejames111
    @ellejames111 6 місяців тому +6

    I can't thank you enough for sharing your story, Misty. I completely agree, CSA prevention should be taught in every school with NO religious exceptions. All Teachers should be mandated reporters. I also think all teachers should receive training and have access to the resources they need to help stop the abuse. Law enforcement must take this seriously as well. Thank you, I'll be signing the petition and thank you, as always, Shelise, for your amazing work on this channel which has illuminated so many dark corners and brought me so much hope.

  • @victoriaheersink8707
    @victoriaheersink8707 6 місяців тому +14

    I used to live reading Amish romance stories, my mom got me into them as an older teen. I can't stomach it anymore. I've watched all of your Amish videos (and so many more lol) and it makes me sick, just how much it's romanticized. Her comment of "what is this, a zoo?", as a child, my family did a trip to "Amish country" and now that I'm grown... I just can't believe that it's really a "thing"! Thank you for all the amazing things you do!

    • @CultstoConsciousness
      @CultstoConsciousness  6 місяців тому +1

      Thank you for sharing your shift in viewpoint! It’s so admirable and refreshing that you’re willing to take in new info and adjust your thinking.

  • @jacintasimpson1719
    @jacintasimpson1719 6 місяців тому +8

    I am from Melbourne, Australia. I have just signed the petition. This story horrifies me and I can’t do much from Australia but here’s hoping my signature helps somewhat. Thank you for sharing, for your vulnerability, for your persistence and determination to step into this horrid experience of CA towards children. I admire you so so so much.

  • @kdholden
    @kdholden 6 місяців тому +60

    I knew that these crimes were happening in Amish communities but never did I imagine people would be premeditating this lifestyle to commit crimes of all kinds. I will never see the Amish the same again

    • @Spmama444
      @Spmama444 6 місяців тому +3

      Same!!
      The Amish products we get are so good so many people have NO idea!!!

    • @cookshackcuisinista
      @cookshackcuisinista 6 місяців тому +2

      There was a series a few years ago called "Pure" about the Amish who moved to Mexico and because of their religion they didn't need passports . Of course this was a long time ago. They would hollow out their cheese wheels and pack them with cocaine and security at the borders with just wave them on through. I believe there are some good folk amongst the Amish but woe to those who have misled the flock!

  • @Westernponyrider1997
    @Westernponyrider1997 6 місяців тому +29

    Only 10 years blows my mind. I feel like extreme cases like this should get life!

  • @StormSpottersTN
    @StormSpottersTN 2 місяці тому +1

    Wow.....Misty, you're an inspiration to many by getting away from that abuse and helping others!

  • @debbyfazfphotography
    @debbyfazfphotography 6 місяців тому +17

    Misty, what a breathtaking, heartwrenching story! Thank you for your bravery in sharing your experiences with the world! It's really powerful how the Bishop's daughter contacted you. All of the information you shared is very, very important! Blessings to you in your nursing career! 🥰🎉
    Miss you, Shelise! Looking forward to seeing you again! Blessings to you, Jonathan and little Rhea! ❤

    • @CultstoConsciousness
      @CultstoConsciousness  6 місяців тому +6

      ❤️❤️❤️ thank you! Holding our little Angel now with Oscar on my lap.

    • @debbyfazfphotography
      @debbyfazfphotography 6 місяців тому

      @@CultstoConsciousness awe! That's soooo sweet to hear, Shelise! There is nothing better in this world. Enjoy every moment! 🥰

  • @mariamunroe6861
    @mariamunroe6861 6 місяців тому +12

    The whole World needs to watch this interview and apply what she says at the end..., I hope change comes in Your life time, ASAP..., Thank You for sharing

  • @therealdeal3672
    @therealdeal3672 6 місяців тому +9

    Petition signed. Amazing guest! Bless Misty for working hard to change the situation that is so real for so many kids. 💝

  • @lisapeters7191
    @lisapeters7191 2 місяці тому +1

    I listened and watched the physical changes as your guest told more of her story. I felt so bad as her neck and cheeks just became more and more red & flushed. The internal anxiety & fears come through even though the person is calm and collected. Trauma shows itself no matter what

  • @simonebittencourt8251
    @simonebittencourt8251 3 місяці тому +1

    Exactly! Humanity must create a movement for children's rights in every corner of this planet, since abuse is everywhere, inside religious groups, outside religious groups... Where there is a child, there is a risk of violence since children are so vulnerable. Thank you for this inspiring and courageous interview. What a legacy this woman leaves in the world, an advocate for children's rights. Child abuse is a crime and must be held accountable with no exception. Thank you for spreading the word, and for your tremendous empathy, kindness, and wisdom. Your presence in this world surely makes a huge difference. You turned your pain into strength. It is a revolutionary act. Thank you so much for giving a voice to the voiceless.

  • @katwitanruna
    @katwitanruna 6 місяців тому +10

    I remember reading this book. Such a profound story. Thank you so much. We must keep speaking up and speaking out until this never happens again.

  • @katwitanruna
    @katwitanruna 6 місяців тому +19

    One thing that helps is to teach children proper names for body parts and consent. Consent is key. My family wouldn’t even hug kids goodbye if they didn’t want to… as toddlers.

    • @casshiggins3725
      @casshiggins3725 6 місяців тому +4

      Yes informed concent is the key, or a good start.

    • @CultstoConsciousness
      @CultstoConsciousness  6 місяців тому +10

      Absolutely!! My kids will never be forced to give affection to anyone. Not even me.

    • @katwitanruna
      @katwitanruna 6 місяців тому +4

      @@CultstoConsciousness you guys are going to be amazing parents to your precious baby.

    • @serendipidus8482
      @serendipidus8482 3 місяці тому

      Yeah abusers aren't likely to do that and there's no law in úsá that children have a right to go to school. An amish person isn't ever going to teach that to a child they teach blind obedience as do most religions. Makes for a docile population that allows evil to thrive. Thats why organised religion is really terrible. Its got all these lovely things but at the end of the day it teaches you to believe despite your own observation and evidence and from that you can instill anything in a persons mind. Thats also why you have regular indoctrination ceremonies. Religion wouldnt work if it wasn't driven into people every single day.

  • @kimemerson5732
    @kimemerson5732 6 місяців тому +11

    This was an amazing and eye-opening book. I'm sorry there are so many people in the world suffering from these cults, I wish we could save them all. Thank you for what you are doing.

  • @teamcougars
    @teamcougars 6 місяців тому +5

    It’s disgustingly revolting 🤮 how rampant sexual abuse is in the Amish and fundamentalist communities and I am so incredibly proud of the survivors, not to mention how resilient so many people are ❤❤ there are so many incredibly strong warriors out here 💪🏻💜💜

  • @lisacolledge7624
    @lisacolledge7624 6 місяців тому +6

    Hi Ladies. An incredible interview, great job Shelise. 👏 Misty, I'm overwhelmed....how you have endured so much yet managed to become an eternal fighter and advocate, a career success, a mother, a wife, an author, an inspiration for a series, on the path for your nursing masters. It's just overwhelming and angering and sad and inspiring to hear your story. I think you have so much to offer the world and you've probably only just begun. Much love and respect from me. ❤

  • @sharonminer9350
    @sharonminer9350 6 місяців тому +11

    Misty, you are amazing! After everything you have been through, you are an incredibly strong amazing person.

  • @SoliRhymesWithJulie
    @SoliRhymesWithJulie 6 місяців тому +7

    Petition signed. Thank you for the work you do, Misty.

  • @totonow6955
    @totonow6955 6 місяців тому +16

    Love hearing Shelise say it's systems not people.
    1:10 The fear is patriarchy. The system is patriarchy.
    I am buying a book of stamps. I'm putting my contact and a recovering from Amish contact group in the book and when I am out and see the young women, I am handing the book of stamps to the teenager.

  • @tracytaylor1893
    @tracytaylor1893 6 місяців тому +13

    This woman is absolutely amazing everyone please sign and share this video let's together give all the kids a voice ❤❤

  • @AlleyCatInks
    @AlleyCatInks 6 місяців тому +3

    Omg Misty, you are an amazing and brave person!!! Everyone who is on this channel are! I’m so glad your book inspired all these changes (even though I know it’s so extremely difficult) and that you’re bringing awareness, too! ❤ thank you for telling your story ❤❤❤

  • @maryanneviola752
    @maryanneviola752 6 місяців тому +12

    I read Tears of the Silenced a few years ago. It was so good I couldn't put it down.

  • @smooth_pursuit
    @smooth_pursuit 6 місяців тому +15

    They give the Amish so much grief over raw milk, when all of this is going on!! 😩🤦‍♀️

  • @hailey-clairbender8152
    @hailey-clairbender8152 6 місяців тому +9

    Omg I read tears of the silence three times ! As soon I saw the thumb nail for this episode. I knew it was Misty Griffin. I highly recommend her book, this episode is more insight to the content behind the book.

  • @Sarah-s9s1g
    @Sarah-s9s1g 6 місяців тому +5

    Shelise, bravo! This is the best episode (in my opinion) you’ve produced! I really think this setup makes the listener experience the conversation in a more engaged way. As it pertains to the story itself, I also think this is one of the best you’ve done. Thank you for all you do to bring light to these stories, but something magical happened on this one. ❤

  • @danihawkinspreissler8017
    @danihawkinspreissler8017 4 місяці тому +1

    I AM READING YOUR BOOK RIGHT NOW MISTY! Thank you so much for sharing your story. I'm so glad you never gave up on yourself and fought so hard to try to rescue your sister, your aunt, your grandma. I'm still reading, so I hope there are updates on all of them. You are a warrior!

  • @kaysharogers32
    @kaysharogers32 4 місяці тому +1

    I appreciate the care in which this somber, importance tale was told. I'm only now becoming aware of the abuse being covered up in these communities. Thank you both.

  • @thisnthatcormak
    @thisnthatcormak 6 місяців тому +2

    Signed your petition Misty. I have a 4 year old and my husband and I couldn't imagine being anything but loving and supportive to her. So many children in horrible situations. Thank you for sharing your story. I'm so sorry for what you've been through

  • @CourtneyJenkins-mz1wq
    @CourtneyJenkins-mz1wq 6 місяців тому +15

    Thank You so much for all that you do to create awareness. I deeply appreciate what you are doing here on this chanel.

  • @rainbowiam
    @rainbowiam 6 місяців тому +4

    Signed the petition! Thank you for working for positive changes. What a beautiful way to fight back against what you experienced. Buying her book next. 💕

  • @melanienichols9862
    @melanienichols9862 6 місяців тому +4

    I am currently reading Tears of the silenced.... Great read, I am so sorry that you had to endure this horrific life. Yet I am so proud of you for getting out.

  • @autumn5852
    @autumn5852 5 місяців тому +1

    Another beautiful, brave and strong lady 💗
    These stories are never easy to hear but they are so inspiring. They make you want to make sure that you never turn a blind eye (not that many of us would), but they also make you want to do more than that, because clearly we need to do more, it’s time 💞

  • @lisa_loves_scarlet
    @lisa_loves_scarlet 6 місяців тому +2

    I'm so glad you had Misty on. I read her book last year and it was so moving.

  • @electra424
    @electra424 6 місяців тому +3

    Wow. What an amazing story. Thank you so much Misty for sharing this with us. Your words have literally saved lives, going to show the truth behind "break the silence break the cycle" in such a powerful way. What a fantastic interview! Thank you Misty and thank you Shelise for such excellent interview skills!

  • @hollywebster6844
    @hollywebster6844 6 місяців тому +8

    This was such a good interview. I am always amazed at how many survivors who weave a belief in God when their abuse was in a religious setting. I am a Christian, so I feel that the truth of God somehow managed to get in and stay. You are so valiant in your efforts to continue to speak for those who have no voice. I signed the petition and posted it to my FB page.

  • @suzybrat2945
    @suzybrat2945 5 місяців тому +2

    I read Misty's book a while ago. Well written. ty for having her on ❤

  • @julieproctor6039
    @julieproctor6039 Місяць тому +1

    Rules about pins, rules about hems/brims, rules about hair, rules about money, rules about letters, rules about medical care, rules about unmarried and living alone, etc. Only rule regarding pedophilia is 6 weeks in the ban. No excommunication. No prison terms. No divorce and removal from children's home. No mandated therapy. No mandated reporting.

  • @dontalkback8067
    @dontalkback8067 6 місяців тому +11

    I ordered the book! Will pass it to others, so they can be informed. I have an Amish friend with 5 boys. Her group is much more free. They had a phone shack before. I think she has a cell now. She & her husband mix with many non amish & he seems like any other average husband. He takes good charge of their youngest...every group is unique.

    • @cbail1323
      @cbail1323 6 місяців тому

      I get that, but it just justify anything that these people do. Just because one family is what you deem "okay" doesn't mean they are. So much happens behind closed doors. They put on a show. I truly hope your friend and her husband are the good ones. 👍

  • @bonniemeyer1301
    @bonniemeyer1301 6 місяців тому +4

    Incredible interview! Can’t wait to read Misty’s book.

  • @adrienekausner9701
    @adrienekausner9701 6 місяців тому +3

    💙 brave lady. Everyone better sign that goddamn petition.
    People need to realize that there are predators EVERYWHERE. It doesn’t matter what religion, race, gender, sexual affiliation, country; there are always going to be bad people seeking out vulnerable people to take advantage of in one way or another. We need to educate children. Knowledge truly is power. That’s why the bad people don’t want you to have it.

  • @KarenNeumann
    @KarenNeumann 6 місяців тому +5

    What a change maker she has become. Inspiring. I wonder what happened to her sister.

  • @shelbylouisehunter4418
    @shelbylouisehunter4418 6 місяців тому +2

    Instantly bought her book!
    Keep Raising Awareness guys you’re awesome, I must of watched every video you’ve posted to your channel, and I’m so glad I have, my eyes are open now to cults thank you 🙏🏼 ❤

  • @motorcitymangababe
    @motorcitymangababe 6 місяців тому +9

    20:40 one of my favorite poems has a line that i always think of in times like these. I cant remember it exactly but its something like "If Eve is the cause of man's sin than why is he the one with Adam's apple still stuck in his throat?"

  • @222astrid222
    @222astrid222 6 місяців тому +3

    This woman is so brave . I cannot imagine. Even though im sure she’s told these awful stories so many times i could see the hives move from the back of her neck to her face during the interview. It must still be so stressful- yet she does it to help others. Well done - i hope her life is lovely now

  • @music54186
    @music54186 6 місяців тому +4

    Amazing interview! Signed the petition, let's get this rolling 💕

  • @I_am_not_your_sister
    @I_am_not_your_sister 4 місяці тому +1

    I had chills hearing how the detective was reading the book when the kids reported so amazed by her bravery

  • @creatureencounters3897
    @creatureencounters3897 6 місяців тому +1

    What an amazing woman, both of you. Thank you for sharing your story, for the difference you have made, for your immense human spirit!

  • @ritae5316
    @ritae5316 6 місяців тому +14

    Thank you for sharing these stories. I was raised as a Jehovah's Witness, and they face a similar problem, as they are also not mandated reporters, and require two witnesses to a 'sin' before they take any action... anyways, ty for being so brave.

    • @SunniRae-st9sj
      @SunniRae-st9sj 3 місяці тому

      I was born JW. My parents were severely abusive. Towards each other and my mom towards me. When I was 9, my mom strangled me while beating me with a wooden spoon. I was constantly terrified because I had no idea what would set her off. It was over me watching Pokemon.
      I went to the elders and asked them to help fix things because I knew it was abuse. They just told me that I needed to stop being a difficult child, and that my mom was well within her right to beat me.
      I lost all trust and respect for adults at that moment.
      Even into my 30's, the effects of that generational abuse are in full force.

  • @rebeccat9389
    @rebeccat9389 6 місяців тому +6

    Children deserve more rights!

  • @ariadnaspy7938
    @ariadnaspy7938 6 місяців тому +2

    Great interview! Much nicer in person. I am normally listening without watching and this interview felt different than others, really good dynamic between the two of you. I am always amazed by your guests that grew up in such horrible circumstances but still managed to become wonderful people and turn their lives around.

  • @sarahpinho1114
    @sarahpinho1114 6 місяців тому +4

    Thanks for this interview

  • @lindawells8167
    @lindawells8167 6 місяців тому +5

    What a beautiful and inspiring and articulate young woman.

  • @DLN19
    @DLN19 6 місяців тому

    I signed the petition and shared! Thank you for not only sharing your story but for taking action to protect those who have no voice! Your story is so powerful and inspiring! Please keep us updated if there are any additional opportunities for us viewers to advocate and support your petition! As viewer Katwitanruna always comments "Break the silence. Break the cycle." Thank you!

  • @bmk9844
    @bmk9844 2 місяці тому

    I just picked up the book. This was an incredibly intense and interesting episode. Thank you so much, ladies!

  • @ArielIslam-lg6oq
    @ArielIslam-lg6oq 6 місяців тому

    Incredibly well spoken. thank you for coming on

  • @christinehancock3274
    @christinehancock3274 27 днів тому

    I remembered reading Misty's book on my kindle years ago. I am happy to hear that she not only escaped, but thrived in her new life, post trauma and abuse.

  • @sky_high_yellow
    @sky_high_yellow 6 місяців тому

    I did not grow up in any religion/cult/anything but hearing when she said "nobody should think I can take it." my entire stomach dropped because to this day (I'm thirty) I have been saying that and I just had to pause the video and stay shell shocked... thank you for speaking about out, your stories matter to people who have nothing to do with these communities, you reach people everywhere, you're so strong and I want to tell everyone just because you CAN take it, doesn't mean you SHOULD.

  • @vaunniethayer1484
    @vaunniethayer1484 6 місяців тому +2

    I am so grateful to have found this channel and to have heard Misty’s story. I listened to her book last night on Audible ( it’s free by the way). Misty you are an amazing writer and communicator. You started out a powerless child and now look at you. The impact you are having in the world gives me hope. I am so glad you have some happiness and joy in your life now.

  • @williampopper59
    @williampopper59 6 місяців тому +2

    Thanjs for this great interview - what an inspiring life journey!🙌🙌🙌🙌

  • @margeryk000
    @margeryk000 6 місяців тому +2

    All your guests are wonderful, but this was one of the best. Thank you so much for sharing this story with us.

  • @michelejohnson234
    @michelejohnson234 6 місяців тому +2

    I lived in Pennsylvania from 14yrs old to 21yrs old. I lived in Chester County which is next to Lancaster. I am very familiar with the Amish. We have a close friend who grew up in Lancaster and as teenagers would go to parties with Amish kids who snuck out to party or who hid their cars on peoples property. I always assumed it was such a wonderful community. And it can be. From what I know the Lancaster Amish were not as strict and harsh as some of the others. I think you have bad in any community. Thank you for this story. It makes me so sad the amount of abuse I keep hearing about. But I am so happy about the resilience, strength, and perseverance of these women!!! What an amazing story! Thank you
    Wow!! Talk about Devine intervention!! And coming full circle! The detective reading your book at the exact time the children from the family you were with were able to report gives me such chills and tears of joy!!!~
    The amount of child SA and physical abuse we are seeing in this world right now is so horrible!

  • @caroler4297
    @caroler4297 6 місяців тому +13

    She didn't escape the Amish Bishop, and her story sound so much like fundamental evangelical religion, The clothing might be different but the premise that females are always responsible for a mans sexual behavior and sexual acts to them is ridiculous. Men should be responsible for their own behavior not given a pass.

    • @priscillayoga4040
      @priscillayoga4040 6 місяців тому +1

      Why would you use the word "female" but in the same context use "man/ men"? You are the one reducing women here to their sexual body parts.

  • @judyannstreich7499
    @judyannstreich7499 6 місяців тому +1

    Just signed the petition & donated to this cause. Excellent episode from superb You-Tube channel.

  • @lycianempire
    @lycianempire 6 місяців тому +3

    The only time my studies (and I'm including my bachelor's in history here) mentioned the Amish was in lectures on the effects of long-term inbreeding and rare disorders in isolated cultural groups.

  • @_shannons
    @_shannons 6 місяців тому +14

    Cycle breakers, right makers.

  • @lisataylor-doherty1520
    @lisataylor-doherty1520 6 місяців тому

    Thank you for sharing these stories. I just finished watching the documentary and my mind is blown. The bravery of these women to come forward is incredible, and I can't wait to hear more.
    The one story I would love to hear more about is Annie's (the one who was put in the mental facility). that one broke my heart and more people need to aware of this.

  • @darksarcasm4835
    @darksarcasm4835 6 місяців тому

    Thank you for your messages…these stories are so important.❤❤❤

  • @becca8423
    @becca8423 6 місяців тому

    Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. To both of you. nothing more eloquent, I am just so thankful.

  • @anitaboneshow
    @anitaboneshow 6 місяців тому +2

    I signed the petition - thank you for posting it.

  • @mandwandwe73
    @mandwandwe73 4 місяці тому +1

    I had my heart in my throat the whole time listening to this video. I am an African and recently shared my testimony of abuse as a child in an interdominational women's conference. I was shocked to learn that approximately 70% of attendants could resonate with my experience in one form or the other. My heart just sank listening to this powerful testimony. We Africans lie to ourselves and associate sex predatory to poverty and illiteracy. Yes, these scourges contribute but there is certainly so much more! 😢

  • @nohorasims656
    @nohorasims656 6 місяців тому +1

    She's such a brave person. I just pray for her strength to go on and bring this abuse into the light.

  • @reneebekas8977
    @reneebekas8977 6 місяців тому +5

    Signed the petition immediately