Quite suprising how litreally less than half of all major DBZ games don't have a legitimate beam struggle mechanic. I still think, 17 years later - Budokai 3 still looks the best (beam struggles). Was so satisfying to win. But BT3 had the best mechanic - where you could put more energy into it. I always thought it would be cool if you could transform during a beam struggle. Like say you were ssj but losing you could go ssj2
@@timeschanging7769 No, Budokai 3 came out in 2004. So 17 years later. 17 years and 11 days to be exact. It's intial release was 16 Novemebr 2004. 17 years ago.
Yeah i loved beam strugles i always did that in 2p and when me and my friend were in really low health we did a beam clash every time to see who is better (i always won)
BT3 beam struggles were amazing. no other game has been able to recreate and make me relive my childhood memories in such a way. i still so vividly remember the look on my brothers face when he saw me input a kamehameha, ready to spin the everloving damn out of his analog stick and the moment they HIT, we started pushing eachother’s arms around, still spinning the stick, so one of us would slip up and get blasted away. truly a dbz game unlike any other.
@@ZenoDLC I imagine only after a few seconds, it would start wobbling and they would both go off in two separate directions, like if you tried pressing two metal spheres together
@@TheOneWhoReportsForDuty The clashing beams were the best part of Budokai Tenkaichi 3, everyone's fingers were in pain at this point. The cool thing would be to be able to increase the time in the settings to last 15 seconds or more
BT3 is the best to me. Unlike a lot of other DB games, you could do beam struggles not just with supers and ultimates, but with a super against an ultimate. It also just looked the best to me.
Budokai Tenkiachi 3 was probably the most enjoyable DBZ fighting game I ever played, the character list and fighting mechanics were really good for that generation. Even though some DBZ games since then have adopted similar mechanics, they just never hit the same. To be real, nothing apart from the aesthetics have changed when it came to beam battles and that is really the biggest disappointment.
My favorite thing about the BT1 & BT2 Beam Struggle mechanics was that you could press the ki charge button to drain yourself and power up your blast. It added a risk/reward element to it that I'm surprised other DBZ games haven't tried to copy.
@@Plsrateeight Looking over your past comments on other channels looks to me you need to crawl back under your bridge troll. 😏seems like you need a bottle, kid.
I think Budokai 3 had the best beam struggle mechanic, it showed both players simultaneously firing, the screen jumps a bit to emphasize the heavy impact of the next scene/struggle, and a nice little detail from a gameplay standpoint - if someone enters their beam command - as their opponent, you were given maybe a second to a second and a half to enter in your command to cover their beam - almost kind of simulating a last minute response to their attack... recreates the drama akin to when Goku covers Nappa's mouth beam last second when they fought... crazy to think that game was out in '04
Yeah i can see that. Some 9f the others use WAY too much screen shaking, qnd Budokai 3 had that nice visual effect with the rainbow streaks and air cone around them.
I know this is a bit off topic, but I wish Dragon Ball Z Kakarot had a local fight option, it has such an aggressive and fluid fighting style and I personally enjoyed it a lot, not to mention it brought back a lot of what fans (like me) enjoy, beam struggles, good animation, character interactions during fights, it's all in there. But they lack so much replayability.
Here's hoping CyberConnect 2 can just implement the mechanics of Kakarot into a game that allows for local battles a la Xenoverse, because honestly with that style of combat mixed with the sheer building options would be amazing.
Dragonball Z Budokai Tenkaichi 3 will always be number one. The characters even had little quips that came out like Vegeta’s “No you dooooooonnnn’t” once the beams hit each other. Plus the animation was great to see and you felt very satisfied when you won a beam struggle. Thanks for all the nostalgia too. The background music from Budokai 1, Budokai Tenkaichi 1 and 2 (Lost Courage was a huge favorite) really made me smile to hear those tunes again. Thanks for the video. Keep it up.
It's so wild to think that while I was still waiting to see who these androids were this purple haired guy with a sword was talking about, Japan was already playing games with Super Vegito in it lol
They didn’t give a damn about spoilers either back then. Man I remember playing with a Tapion toy back in the day! The dude with a sword and a mohawk from that one DBZ movie? This was way back when the Frieza saga was still on toonami!
“Pelos poderes de SÃO CIPRIANO e das três malhas que vigiam SÃO CIPRIANO, (Fulano) virá agora e imediatamente atrás de mim. (Fulano)vais vir de rastos, apaixonado, cheio de amor, de tesão por mim, vais voltar para mim e pedires-me perdão (ex: por tudo o que me fizeste passar, por me teres mentido…) e para (fazer o seu pedido - ex.: me pedir em noivado, em casamento)o mais rápido possível. SÃO CIPRIANO, fazei com que (Fulano) esqueça e deixe de vez qualquer outra mulher que possa estar em seu pensamento, só a mim amando. SÃO CIPRIANO afastai de (fulano) qualquer mulher, que ele me procure a todo momento, hoje e agora, desejando estar ao meu lado, que ele tenha a certeza de que sou a única mulher da vida dele. São Cipriano, fazei com que (fulano) não possa viver sem mim, que não possa sossegar nem descansar, em parte alguma consiga estar, sem que tenha sempre a minha imagem em seu pensamento, e em seu coração, em todos os momentos. Que ao deitar, comigo tenha de sonhar, que ao acordar, imediatamente em mim tenha de pensar, só a mim possa desejar e apenas comigo queira estar. São Cipriano, que (Fulano) pense em mim em todos os momentos de sua vida. Que (fulano) queira me abraçar, me beijar, cuidar de mim, me proteger, me amar todos os minutos, todos os segundos, de todos os dias de sua vida. Que me ame a cada dia mais e que sinta prazer somente comigo. SÃO CIPRIANO faça (Fulano) sentir por mim amor, carinho e desejo, como nunca sentiu por nenhuma outra mulher e nunca sentirá. Que tenha prazer apenas comigo, que tenha tesão somente por mim e que seu corpo só a mim pertença,que só tenha paz e descanso se estiver comigo. Agradeço-te SÃO CIPRIANO por trabalhares a meu favor e divulgarei teu nome em troca de amansar (Fulano) e trazê-lo apaixonado, dedicado, fiel e cheio de amor e desejo aos meus braços. Peço-te meu glorioso São Cipriano para que (Fulano) volte para mim, para o nosso namoro/ nosso amor/ nosso casamento, o mais breve possível. Peço isso do fundo do meu coração, aos poderes das três malhas pretas que vigiam SÃO CIPRIANO”
@@yasso304 Please specify what "all of them" means. I've played Burst Limit personally. It has beam struggles. My thumbs are a constant reminder of that. Energy _beams_ are the only ones that clash. Energy waves (Like Vegeta's Final Flash and Gohan's Super Masenko) and Energy Balls (Goku's Spirit Bomb and Frieza's Death Ball) do not clash. If you mean the others, then yeah. I looked it up and found that although Infinite World is built off of the engine of Budokai 3, beam struggles were removed. Must've confused 3 and IW for each other. I also figured the same thing for Shin Budokai 1 and 2. It was similar to Burst Limit, so I figured that must've carried over. Admittedly should've done my research prior to saying that, but hindsight is always 20/20.
I don't know why, but there was something therapeutic about seeing Gogeta 4 getting beaten back by a Saibamen in a beam struggle. Also, Gogeta vs Gogeta. THAT was an amazing finisher. Truly a dramatic finish. Great video!
BT's clashes are my favourite is terms of gameplay, but Ultimate Tenkaichi seems to be the only game where the winner is shown to output more energy into the blast, making it bigger just like in DB.
I played it and it's trash trust me, the idea sounds good but it just makes using beams always an innecesary risk, ultimate tenkaichi is really bad but it looked good
@@elilikepizza1344 that's an extremely idiotic move Almost all of the player base is online and cutting off a huge feature for that player base is stupid
They should make you rapidly press a button and it will slowly eat up your meter. Depending on how late you counter beam, depends on how much meter it'll take to reach your opponent, that is if they don't decide to use their meter as well. If you both run out of meter, the person closest to the beam eats it.
To this day, I’m still amazed just how good burst limit looks even at today’s standard, and yet no idea how there’s not been a game like it ever since. Makes me sad 😢
Because the game had barely half of what budokai 3 did. It was like a step backward. It was essentially better to go back to budokai 3 rather than play BL.
@@megacrapul what i liked about burst limit was the gameplay. Gameplay-wise, it was like a mix between budokai 3 and Shin Budokai from psp. It had the best from both games in my opinion. It was a shame about the character selection but I was hopeful for more characters in the sequels.
Some of those games had beam struggles, you just used beams that didn't clash. Never use Special beam Cannon to clash, attacks like that one don't normally clash.
Yes, he messed up with burst limit, he has to use the normal Kamehameha and Galick gun, ultimates don’t beam clash in that game, which made me give him a dislike. Like come on man you gotta know your shit before making such a historic DB video.
@@TheAutumnGee i remember in tenkaichi 3, beams like kamehameha and gallick gun would often go through bombs (like spirit bomb) and "thinner" beams like special beam cannon and friezas finger death ray thing would often beat the regular beams. It has been a while though so i may be wrong
FighterZ has several different types of beams, too. Some hit once, some are multihit. And many times in case of Super beams, the first one to use it loses (unless it's something like Teen Gohan who can burn extra bars to continue hitting, like shown in the example).
A few days ago i actually did my dark rose kamehameha against a goku's kamehameha in DB legends and i had no idea there was beam struggle. I was hoping to see it in this video and you never let us down :D
I love how Gohan's Level 5 in DBFZ works exactly as it does because of how it interacts with other beam level 3's and such. Spent 3/5 bars but your opponent used a level three to nullify it? Simply hold Super, burn 2 more bars and send a message lol
@@Plsrateeight if they made it like the partner ultimates it'd be fine i suppose. Just have an opt-in for a teammate to help you against your beam struggle opponent. As long as it isn't anything like the Raid Boss mechanic lol
I have not played all of these games but after watching all of them, I would give the top spot to Budokai 3 (2004). The way the beam struggles were triggered are very spontaneous, giving you very little time to think and react, which in my opinion, is probably an accurate representation of how a "real life" beam struggle would be like. This also means that the whole match wouldn't be bombarded with beam struggles as the timing to activate it is pretty strict. Visually, it was very easy to see who was winning the struggle (the 3rd party side perspective). And the mechanic of winning the beam struggle was determined by rotating the analog sticks faster than the opponent, which if you think about it, equates to whoever put in more "effort" in the struggle to push through. It seems like the most clear and fair way to resolve something like this. I quite like how the "DBZ: Ultimate Tenkaichi" beam struggle looks, it did a really good job of combining cinematics with practicality and mechanics. I only find it too accessible to activate the beam struggle given that it seems like you could have some time to consider your defensive options rather than reacting on the fly.
Thank you for this. I just wish there was a DB game where if you win a super clash, you can use another super to push the beam struggle and ignite the blast
Fascinating! Also I love how at Part 3:36 the timing was absolutely priceless! While I'm more into Xenoverse 1 and (especially now) Xenoverse 2, the one in X2 was hilarious at that last moment of "Oops!" X'D
Xenoverse1 is literally an Alpha release of Xenoverse2, I've played a crap ton of both I don't know how anyone could unironically say Xenoverse1 is preferred i'd rather die than downgrade to XV1.
There are a lot of good contenders such as Budokai 3, Budokai Tenkaichi 3 and DBZ Kakarot. But the best for me is 2011 Ultimate Tenkaichi purely because its not a mess to watch and you can clearly see your progress from a distance. It was funny to see most games gave up on beam struggles 😂
Bt3 was my favorite game when i was a kid, but nowadays i think dbfz is by far the best db game, since It has the most solid mechanics, and as a fighting game, this should be the priority
Not only Did Saibaman win the Beam-Struggle against Ssj4 Gogeta, no He also Did it casualy with just one Hand and no Moral Support. Ssj2 Gohan eat your Heart out. Saibaman from Universe 69 is strongest Saibaman. 😆
Surprising how few games actually understood the value of a beam struggle and coded it properly. Almost just as notable, _Budokai 3_ 1:41 held its own as the most dramatic example for the longest time, and did so without any flashy camera angles.
6:44 what an interesting mechanic, where there’s no beam struggles at all, but there’s a little cutscene for if in case you do a beam struggle with Gohan and Cell
They should bring back clashing in alot of the games that are still out there they can easily do it like Naruto when you had to press the correct corresponding buttons instead of spin the stick or mashing some buttons, which ultimately damaged these things.
4:20 It's actually possible to do a Budokai 3 beam struggle with certain characters. In fact, it's possible to beam struggle a Super Kamehameha with a regular Galick Gun
There was a Team Attack in Supersonic Warriors 2 called Ultimate Kamehameha which was essentially Gohan & Goku weaponizing the Beam Clash. The fact it makes a return in Dragon Ball Heroes makes me so happy.
Evolution of Legendary SSJ Transformations
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I thought Jump Force would be in this Evolution
You're missing a game
*thx bro I was looking for it best youtuber ever*
hk
Can ples said what is the music in battle on 2002?
Gogeta ss4 loses a beam struggle to a saibamen must be the most disrepectful lost gogeta has faced so far
yeah lol
Thats the saibaman that killed Yamcha..and got a huge Zenkai boost after resurrection by Super Shenron 🤣
The fact that he did that one handed just makes it even more disrespectful
@@RuXsel Yes I see, the saibaman does have Saiyan heritage after all.
@@Proxymanade Not just one handed, but compared to Gogeta, the most basic of beams.
Quite suprising how litreally less than half of all major DBZ games don't have a legitimate beam struggle mechanic. I still think, 17 years later - Budokai 3 still looks the best (beam struggles). Was so satisfying to win. But BT3 had the best mechanic - where you could put more energy into it.
I always thought it would be cool if you could transform during a beam struggle. Like say you were ssj but losing you could go ssj2
I came here to say this and I for once am happy to see someone else said it before me.
Thank you stranger, here, have my internet for today 👍
14 years later *
@@timeschanging7769 No, Budokai 3 came out in 2004. So 17 years later. 17 years and 11 days to be exact. It's intial release was 16 Novemebr 2004.
17 years ago.
@@rorymcnamara1 Oh shit for some reason I thought he was referring to tenkaichi 3 sry
All budokai versions definitely. We've gone backwards
Who else used to play two players and not end their fights until you had a beam struggle?
YUP 😀
That's called showmanship
I would go into training mode just to beam struggle.
Yeah i loved beam strugles i always did that in 2p and when me and my friend were in really low health we did a beam clash every time to see who is better (i always won)
Like me & my brother fighting to a draw when we attempted it too close to each other
20 years later, Dragon Ball Z: Budokai 3 still has the best beam struggle.
U forgot abt budokai tenkaichi 3
budokai 3 is much better and realist@@_GOKU_TUI
@@camiloospinagomez5115 might be but its really cool to play a 3d game than budokai 3.if it was 3d than it would be one of my fav
the best DBZ game ever
Budokai [tenkaichi] 3
BT3 beam struggles were amazing. no other game has been able to recreate and make me relive my childhood memories in such a way. i still so vividly remember the look on my brothers face when he saw me input a kamehameha, ready to spin the everloving damn out of his analog stick and the moment they HIT, we started pushing eachother’s arms around, still spinning the stick, so one of us would slip up and get blasted away. truly a dbz game unlike any other.
Clashing Death Beams is nothing short of miraculous. Imagine the accuracy needed to do that.
Hitting each other is the easy part, the hard part is keeping it in a consistent line
@AnalfabeticGramarNazi 😆🤣☠️!!!
@@voodoogamer605 mermão, do nada
@@ZenoDLC I imagine only after a few seconds, it would start wobbling and they would both go off in two separate directions, like if you tried pressing two metal spheres together
Death beams probably just cancel eachother out
All dbz game should have beam struggles. Its juz not dbz without it
Legend
Fax printer
Or power ups whether it's charging energy or transformations
No
Dragon ball xenovers 2 be like ;-;
Crazy how Raging Blast still looks good like it wasn't made over 10 years ago.
It's simple, the characters have more polygon
True the figterz one's were
Burst Limit is also like that
@@voodoogamer605 porra e essa kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
@@darknessdx6176 burst limit blew my mind when it came out. Holds up great
I hope Beam Struggles make a return. They are honestly highly missed.
No please, I still want to be able to use my controller without stick drift after playing the game.
@@Krakain Maybe they'll add an option to click a certain button instead of spinning your analog stick
Budakai Tenkaichi 4 is coming!
@@OmniKitlike Kakarot! I like the Kakarot clashes better than using the stick
@@Xinny_Real Same tbh
With Tenkaichi 4 coming out I hope they introduce a more competitive beam struggle mechanic. Would be dope to see in tournaments!
You know that if there is a beam struggle in tournaments then people would be extremely hyped.
Jokes on you, it'll be the Rock-Paper-Scissors mechanic.
@@TheOneWhoReportsForDuty The clashing beams were the best part of Budokai Tenkaichi 3, everyone's fingers were in pain at this point. The cool thing would be to be able to increase the time in the settings to last 15 seconds or more
@@Necroside145like db legends?
@@Necroside145 I hope not
BT3 is the best to me. Unlike a lot of other DB games, you could do beam struggles not just with supers and ultimates, but with a super against an ultimate. It also just looked the best to me.
in raging blast 1 you could do super vs ultimate, but in raging blast 2 they made it so you could only do ultimate vs ultimate.
Agreed!
Dats game breaking
@@joj5150 thanks, forgot about that! Still though, bt3 will me my personal favorite.
@@slasherJehC ofc, it is objectively the better game
Budokai Tenkiachi 3 was probably the most enjoyable DBZ fighting game I ever played, the character list and fighting mechanics were really good for that generation. Even though some DBZ games since then have adopted similar mechanics, they just never hit the same. To be real, nothing apart from the aesthetics have changed when it came to beam battles and that is really the biggest disappointment.
I agree, Dbz Budokai Tenkaichi 3 it's the best so far
I agree!
But BT2 had the better story
Tenkaichi 3 had a huge roster, but a lot of the characters were just reskins or had minimal differences. Still love the game though.
@@stayslapped1568 Basically every sequel in a nutshell with a few exceptions
My favorite thing about the BT1 & BT2 Beam Struggle mechanics was that you could press the ki charge button to drain yourself and power up your blast. It added a risk/reward element to it that I'm surprised other DBZ games haven't tried to copy.
And charging up the kamehameha or final flash is downright badass and epic
You really think they’ve ever put much money or effort into DBZ games? I think the last 15 years proves that in this video.
I didnt even know that and I'm 25 now wtf.
@@anonymousamerican4580 Oh no it's time for your bottle
@@Plsrateeight Looking over your past comments on other channels looks to me you need to crawl back under your bridge troll. 😏seems like you need a bottle, kid.
The fact that u could do beam struggle with things like supernova, spirit bomb, etc… is one of the reasons bt3 is forever GOATED
Saibaman casually wins a beam strugle against SSJ4 Gogeta is canon now.
Must’ve been some good ass soil
@@Tigerman4545 beerus's planet soil
Gogeta's face expression says it all.
Now Yamcha won't be ashamed anymore for being killed by one
That's just footage from modern DBFZ
I think Budokai 3 had the best beam struggle mechanic, it showed both players simultaneously firing, the screen jumps a bit to emphasize the heavy impact of the next scene/struggle, and a nice little detail from a gameplay standpoint - if someone enters their beam command - as their opponent, you were given maybe a second to a second and a half to enter in your command to cover their beam - almost kind of simulating a last minute response to their attack... recreates the drama akin to when Goku covers Nappa's mouth beam last second when they fought... crazy to think that game was out in '04
Yeah i can see that. Some 9f the others use WAY too much screen shaking, qnd Budokai 3 had that nice visual effect with the rainbow streaks and air cone around them.
And the effect when you try the beam struggle upclose is great
Tenkaichi 3 N that one should've became one game
It’s kinda bothersome how underrated budakai 3 is, mainly because of how overrated tenkaichi 3 is, and that’s a shame.
Yea and dbz kakarot also had a good beam struggle
RIP my Analog Sticks.
Ong
Lol
Our poor poor analog sticks. So much abuse
Ooof
a
I know this is a bit off topic, but I wish Dragon Ball Z Kakarot had a local fight option, it has such an aggressive and fluid fighting style and I personally enjoyed it a lot, not to mention it brought back a lot of what fans (like me) enjoy, beam struggles, good animation, character interactions during fights, it's all in there. But they lack so much replayability.
I hope we can get a 3d arena fight that looks and feels the way kakorot does , it looked so good !
Its a mod for this , though its not multiplayer and gimmicky.
The beam struggles looked kinda ass cause it was hard to tell what even was really happening
@@TheReZisTLust what is happening? A beam struggle I guess? lol
Here's hoping CyberConnect 2 can just implement the mechanics of Kakarot into a game that allows for local battles a la Xenoverse, because honestly with that style of combat mixed with the sheer building options would be amazing.
Dragonball Z Budokai Tenkaichi 3 will always be number one. The characters even had little quips that came out like Vegeta’s “No you dooooooonnnn’t” once the beams hit each other. Plus the animation was great to see and you felt very satisfied when you won a beam struggle.
Thanks for all the nostalgia too. The background music from Budokai 1, Budokai Tenkaichi 1 and 2 (Lost Courage was a huge favorite) really made me smile to hear those tunes again. Thanks for the video. Keep it up.
Yancha is so weak he lost to a saibamen
The saibamen: 5:26
He beat the saibamen then it killed itself taking him with it. Goku lost a 2v1 to someone weaker than a saibamen
@@SoraX66z yes
My exact thoughts watching this.
@@SoraX66z you must be real fun at parties
@@Ringy_Bingy damn right pussy
2:10 "Did you really think you could out point me brother?!"
2:32 i love how supersonic warriors 2 used the gohan vs cell beam struggle as a template for their beam struggle
It looked more like Goku SS2 vs Majin Vegeta's beam struggle though...
Budokai 3 is memories!!! I spent countless hours playing that game! Loved it
1:51 God knows how many controllers we broke with this 🤣
4:01 The thought of 2 Supernovas colliding like that...
The animation, fluidity and the vibrant colors have only gotten better over time. Can't wait to see what 2022 has in store for us.
Oh hey, you late
It's so wild to think that while I was still waiting to see who these androids were this purple haired guy with a sword was talking about, Japan was already playing games with Super Vegito in it lol
They didn’t give a damn about spoilers either back then. Man I remember playing with a Tapion toy back in the day! The dude with a sword and a mohawk from that one DBZ movie? This was way back when the Frieza saga was still on toonami!
@@NoFairiesAllowed 😆
@@NoFairiesAllowed Gotta love the 90s
“Pelos poderes de SÃO CIPRIANO e das três malhas que vigiam SÃO CIPRIANO, (Fulano) virá agora e imediatamente atrás de mim. (Fulano)vais vir de rastos, apaixonado, cheio de amor, de tesão por mim, vais voltar para mim e pedires-me perdão (ex: por tudo o que me fizeste passar, por me teres mentido…) e para (fazer o seu pedido - ex.: me pedir em noivado, em casamento)o mais rápido possível.
SÃO CIPRIANO, fazei com que (Fulano) esqueça e deixe de vez qualquer outra mulher que possa estar em seu pensamento, só a mim amando. SÃO CIPRIANO afastai de (fulano) qualquer mulher, que ele me procure a todo momento, hoje e agora, desejando estar ao meu lado, que ele tenha a certeza de que sou a única mulher da vida dele.
São Cipriano, fazei com que (fulano) não possa viver sem mim, que não possa sossegar nem descansar, em parte alguma consiga estar, sem que tenha sempre a minha imagem em seu pensamento, e em seu coração, em todos os momentos.
Que ao deitar, comigo tenha de sonhar, que ao acordar, imediatamente em mim tenha de pensar, só a mim possa desejar e apenas comigo queira estar.
São Cipriano, que (Fulano) pense em mim em todos os momentos de sua vida. Que (fulano) queira me abraçar, me beijar, cuidar de mim, me proteger, me amar todos os minutos, todos os segundos, de todos os dias de sua vida.
Que me ame a cada dia mais e que sinta prazer somente comigo.
SÃO CIPRIANO faça (Fulano) sentir por mim amor, carinho e desejo, como nunca sentiu por nenhuma outra mulher e nunca sentirá.
Que tenha prazer apenas comigo, que tenha tesão somente por mim e que seu corpo só a mim pertença,que só tenha paz e descanso se estiver comigo.
Agradeço-te SÃO CIPRIANO por trabalhares a meu favor e divulgarei teu nome em troca de amansar (Fulano) e trazê-lo apaixonado, dedicado, fiel e cheio de amor e desejo aos meus braços. Peço-te meu glorioso São Cipriano para que (Fulano) volte para mim, para o nosso namoro/ nosso amor/ nosso casamento, o mais breve possível.
Peço isso do fundo do meu coração, aos poderes das três malhas pretas que vigiam SÃO CIPRIANO”
It's really crazy lol
Beam struggle needs to come back. It was the signature feature of dragon ball games that made it so great
6:46 CANNON
Where's the cannon?
@@Greensburggwhere are my balls at?
Bruh
But Burst Limit has real beam struggles. Just not every beam can.
Ah you're right. I didn't even know that.
Will definitely include it in the future. Thank you for the info! 👍
@@saiyannation no, thank you for the content, I love it 💖
@@saiyannation Pretty sure Shin Budokai 1, Shin Budokai 2, and Infinite World have them too. Final Flash doesn't clash, just like in Burst Limit.
@@WolfXGamerful no they don't. Tried all of them hahaha
@@yasso304 Please specify what "all of them" means.
I've played Burst Limit personally. It has beam struggles. My thumbs are a constant reminder of that. Energy _beams_ are the only ones that clash. Energy waves (Like Vegeta's Final Flash and Gohan's Super Masenko) and Energy Balls (Goku's Spirit Bomb and Frieza's Death Ball) do not clash.
If you mean the others, then yeah. I looked it up and found that although Infinite World is built off of the engine of Budokai 3, beam struggles were removed. Must've confused 3 and IW for each other. I also figured the same thing for Shin Budokai 1 and 2. It was similar to Burst Limit, so I figured that must've carried over. Admittedly should've done my research prior to saying that, but hindsight is always 20/20.
I don't know why, but there was something therapeutic about seeing Gogeta 4 getting beaten back by a Saibamen in a beam struggle. Also, Gogeta vs Gogeta. THAT was an amazing finisher. Truly a dramatic finish. Great video!
It was the only good thing about fighter z
"The only" hahahahahaha what a boomer
Yes … “the only”
Hahahahaha, saying that when dbfz is one of the Best fighting games in the history
@@bhyacks best in terms of what? Most of the characters are dlc..no beam struggle..no transformations..no flying..No skills.
Beam struggles always made the game so intense and I loved it.
BT's clashes are my favourite is terms of gameplay, but Ultimate Tenkaichi seems to be the only game where the winner is shown to output more energy into the blast, making it bigger just like in DB.
I played it and it's trash trust me, the idea sounds good but it just makes using beams always an innecesary risk, ultimate tenkaichi is really bad but it looked good
Budokai 3 has the best beamstruggle to me. The shaking screen, the intensity between 2 characters. All that factors make it number 1 to me
I know it'll never happen but if fighterz could bring these back it even as an optional setting I would be in love.
@2MuchRiceWine Because stuff like that is detrimental online and you will lag a shit ton doing it
@@AruAnimations optional setting
@@RackerTheRascalMashup it wouldn't make it any less detrimental online....
@@AruAnimations the devs can just turn it off for online ya know
@@elilikepizza1344 that's an extremely idiotic move
Almost all of the player base is online and cutting off a huge feature for that player base is stupid
3:43 gosh dang that BGM was on time.
*gasp* Yoooooo TRUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUE! That is so dang true! I didn't notice it!
BGM?
@@Dippa1991 background music
It’s like OST which means Official Soundtrack
5:12 was the absolute funniest thing I have ever witnessed in the DBZ universe 😂🤣😂🤣😂
That Saibaman's been hitting the gravity room.
Beam clashes are always the best parts in all of Dragon Ball.
They should make you rapidly press a button and it will slowly eat up your meter. Depending on how late you counter beam, depends on how much meter it'll take to reach your opponent, that is if they don't decide to use their meter as well. If you both run out of meter, the person closest to the beam eats it.
I KNOW A GAME WHEE U HAD TO RAPPIDLY PRESS X AND IT WAS PIXELS BUT I FORGOT THE NAME
@@kingchoppa3204 DBZ devolution by txori
@@Azure9577 thx
To this day, I’m still amazed just how good burst limit looks even at today’s standard, and yet no idea how there’s not been a game like it ever since.
Makes me sad 😢
That’s because it actually flopped compared to Raging Blast. A lot of people hated burst limit back in the day and I remember that vividly
Dbfz looks better
Because the game had barely half of what budokai 3 did. It was like a step backward. It was essentially better to go back to budokai 3 rather than play BL.
@@megacrapul yup 100% and that’s exactly what I use to do
@@megacrapul what i liked about burst limit was the gameplay. Gameplay-wise, it was like a mix between budokai 3 and Shin Budokai from psp. It had the best from both games in my opinion. It was a shame about the character selection but I was hopeful for more characters in the sequels.
if that Dragon Ball game has beam clashes, that's best.
Final bout tho..
That's no cap I like beam struggles now it's just they hit and go away that is trash
*Cries in xenoverse*
Not
And thats why budokai 3 is the goat
Some of those games had beam struggles, you just used beams that didn't clash.
Never use Special beam Cannon to clash, attacks like that one don't normally clash.
@Ultra Instinct 94 And you could in Burst limit too, I need to go through them again and make a list.
Yes, he messed up with burst limit, he has to use the normal Kamehameha and Galick gun, ultimates don’t beam clash in that game, which made me give him a dislike. Like come on man you gotta know your shit before making such a historic DB video.
Yeah special beam cannon usually goes straight through most attacks. Well at least it did in bt3
@@TheAutumnGee i remember in tenkaichi 3, beams like kamehameha and gallick gun would often go through bombs (like spirit bomb) and "thinner" beams like special beam cannon and friezas finger death ray thing would often beat the regular beams.
It has been a while though so i may be wrong
FighterZ has several different types of beams, too. Some hit once, some are multihit. And many times in case of Super beams, the first one to use it loses (unless it's something like Teen Gohan who can burn extra bars to continue hitting, like shown in the example).
Gogeta losing a beam struggle to a saibamen is CRAZY🤣🤣🤣
Loved playing Final Bout, It was ahead of all others in its day.
Those older early 90s DBZ game music were really good. And DBZ battles were more clear to watch and better light graphics
Fighterz better
A few days ago i actually did my dark rose kamehameha against a goku's kamehameha in DB legends and i had no idea there was beam struggle. I was hoping to see it in this video and you never let us down :D
rickroll
I didn't know it had beam struggles till watching this, or I forgot it had, cause I don't remember having one.
I love how Gohan's Level 5 in DBFZ works exactly as it does because of how it interacts with other beam level 3's and such. Spent 3/5 bars but your opponent used a level three to nullify it? Simply hold Super, burn 2 more bars and send a message lol
Gogeta SSJ4's face with the saibamen won the beam struggle had me dying! 😂😂😂😂
6:29 FighterZ beam struggles depend on three things mostly
1. Priority of attack
2. How long it lasts
3. Who did it first
lack of beam struggles in modern DB is a shame.
On a side note; we need another Fusions game.
Well, in xenoverse 1 and 2 they would be annoying especially in Co-Op
@@Plsrateeight if they made it like the partner ultimates it'd be fine i suppose. Just have an opt-in for a teammate to help you against your beam struggle opponent.
As long as it isn't anything like the Raid Boss mechanic lol
1:41 those are the best ones, you know when it happens you gotta react fast and start spinning that analog stick fast
*PS2 Analog Stick broke Flashback*
Yeah, I remember my sister spamming Kid Buu and me being pissed off
5:40 every xenoverse 2 ranked match lmao
ゴジータ４VSサイバイマンが一番熱い
Raging blast 1 and 2 are so underrated and slept on. Probably tie for my favorites with budokai 3 and tenkaichi 3 if not better.
Super Dragon Ball Heroes World Mission also has a Beam Struggle, encountered if both teams have a card with the Kamehameha card action ability
Thank you for the information. Wasn’t aware of it. I‘ll include it in the future. 👍
@@saiyannation No worries! Not much players know about it either, I recently found it out not too long ago.
Glad someone plays World Mission lol, wish it got more support I still play it :)
I'm still doing beam clashes in Dragon Ball shin budokai 2. It's sure is satisfying
Budokai 3 is my absolute favorite, just perfect in all aspects.
Never was a big fan of 3D fights like BT3, i like the classic style a lot more
We're so back guys.
Sparking Zero will officially bring back the Beam Struggle mechanic!
I have not played all of these games but after watching all of them, I would give the top spot to Budokai 3 (2004).
The way the beam struggles were triggered are very spontaneous, giving you very little time to think and react, which in my opinion, is probably an accurate representation of how a "real life" beam struggle would be like. This also means that the whole match wouldn't be bombarded with beam struggles as the timing to activate it is pretty strict.
Visually, it was very easy to see who was winning the struggle (the 3rd party side perspective). And the mechanic of winning the beam struggle was determined by rotating the analog sticks faster than the opponent, which if you think about it, equates to whoever put in more "effort" in the struggle to push through. It seems like the most clear and fair way to resolve something like this.
I quite like how the "DBZ: Ultimate Tenkaichi" beam struggle looks, it did a really good job of combining cinematics with practicality and mechanics. I only find it too accessible to activate the beam struggle given that it seems like you could have some time to consider your defensive options rather than reacting on the fly.
Glad to see everyone can agree that budokai 3 has the best beam struggles
0:44 I love final bout. Some of the music on that game was so cool.
Ah yes...budokai tenkaichi 3. The game where me and my brother always broke the joystick on the controller!
5:25 oh yeah saibaman vs ssj4 gogeta, the duel of my dreams.
That last one was more dramatic and realistic than anything Dragon Ball Super has shown
Thank you for this. I just wish there was a DB game where if you win a super clash, you can use another super to push the beam struggle and ignite the blast
Fascinating! Also I love how at Part 3:36 the timing was absolutely priceless!
While I'm more into Xenoverse 1 and (especially now) Xenoverse 2, the one in X2 was hilarious at that last moment of "Oops!" X'D
Xenoverse1 is literally an Alpha release of Xenoverse2, I've played a crap ton of both
I don't know how anyone could unironically say Xenoverse1 is preferred i'd rather die than downgrade to XV1.
Too bad XenoVerse doesn't have beam struggles, they just poof each other out or the stronger attack just goes through
超サイヤ人4ゴジータに撃ち合いで勝つサイバイマン凄い
The original Butoden had beam clashes, no idea why it was omitted.
Budokai 3 amd tenkaichi nailed it. Kakarot was great also. That Final Flash really felt final when Vegeta launched it. Thr beam width size was insane
There are a lot of good contenders such as Budokai 3, Budokai Tenkaichi 3 and DBZ Kakarot. But the best for me is 2011 Ultimate Tenkaichi purely because its not a mess to watch and you can clearly see your progress from a distance.
It was funny to see most games gave up on beam struggles 😂
I think ultimate Tenkaichi had the best beam struggle of the series because it looked more dramatic
Tenkaichi 3
Bt3 was my favorite game when i was a kid, but nowadays i think dbfz is by far the best db game, since It has the most solid mechanics, and as a fighting game, this should be the priority
0:05 when the kamehameha is yellow and the final flash is blue..
😤
Not only Did Saibaman win the Beam-Struggle against Ssj4 Gogeta, no He also Did it casualy with just one Hand and no Moral Support.
Ssj2 Gohan eat your Heart out.
Saibaman from Universe 69 is strongest Saibaman. 😆
🤡
Lmao
Was gonna give it a like l, but I can't mess up this count
Its crazy to see how far DBZ Budokai from 2002 was ahead of its time in terms of graphics and gameplay.
I love how the gogeta’s break time and space via full force kamehameha clash and we dont really question it too much
7:38 best beam clash
How did a saibaman managed to intercept a big bang kamehameha
He is the saibamen that defeated yancha
It is the great saibaman
hahahaha thats the games rules
The power of love.
The upgrade from 93 to 94 was outrageous
FighterZ not having a beam struggle outside cutscenes feels like a war crime
Surprising how few games actually understood the value of a beam struggle and coded it properly. Almost just as notable, _Budokai 3_ 1:41 held its own as the most dramatic example for the longest time, and did so without any flashy camera angles.
3:13
亀仙人「悟空がワシに、、地球を守れと言っていたぁぁぁあ～！！⚡」
Notice how none of these games show a clothes beam being used. That’s how op that move is.
*Uses clothes beam*
*Gets obliterated by Kamehameha with a suit on*
2:03 snitches fighting about whoever can point fingers better
04年になるまでは、94年の超武道伝2の方が表現力も臨場感も遥かに凌駕してる。
6:44 what an interesting mechanic, where there’s no beam struggles at all, but there’s a little cutscene for if in case you do a beam struggle with Gohan and Cell
That was gohan lvl 5
Starting from FighterZ, they have essentially nailed the comic accurate aesthetic of beam and aura.
5:20ゴジータ4とサイバイマン張り合ってるの草
They should bring back clashing in alot of the games that are still out there they can easily do it like Naruto when you had to press the correct corresponding buttons instead of spin the stick or mashing some buttons, which ultimately damaged these things.
Did Burst Limit hella dirty; they had actual beam struggles and were easily one of my favorite iterations of them in a dbz game.
対戦相手の組み合わせに原作愛を感じた
While there's no beam struggle mechanic, I do kind of like how in Fighterz, the stronger attack seems to win out.
Some FighterZ have projectile priority
And that’s how they “powerscale”
4:20 It's actually possible to do a Budokai 3 beam struggle with certain characters. In fact, it's possible to beam struggle a Super Kamehameha with a regular Galick Gun
Not only Saibaman was against "just" Gogeta SS4 but also he won. I'm dead 😂
Boi and no Gorman way boi
Ain't no way ssj4 big bang Kamehameha lost to a tiny beam
IMO beam battles, along with every other aspect, peaked with budokai 3
3:54 BRO I NEVER SAW THIS BEFORE😮❤
All of these are played and recorded by you? That is some dedication
Comments out here telling me that after all this time, BT3 had a mechanic where you could use reserve Ki to power up your blast. That's crazy.
Frrr no wonder I was losing those beam struggles no matter what I tried
Budokai 3 and Tenkaishi 2 or 3 have the hardcore best beam clash ever
Budokai 3 had the best beam struggles. Really revolutionized it.
There was a Team Attack in Supersonic Warriors 2 called Ultimate Kamehameha which was essentially Gohan & Goku weaponizing the Beam Clash. The fact it makes a return in Dragon Ball Heroes makes me so happy.