I've had the lousy experience of visiting someone at Riker's. It's hard to tell if the unpleasantness she's expressing has to do with visiting someone you love in lockup, or the incredibly dehumanizing process that happens first. They treat visitors like criminals. It isn't surprising to me she wants to protect herself from those thoughts.
Wow. Thank you for sharing this. It really helps understand that moment of complete abandonment and defensiveness. It could be a combination of how she was treated and how she saw a friend get treated.
@@PippyPan What you're saying may be true, but there was something about her body language in that moment that I relate to. That feeling of defensiveness felt real. But now I don't know what to believe. She may be acting. I have no way of knowing for sure.
Yeah except she is lying and the timelines don’t add up. While Tupac was in Rikers she was just starting to date Will and Tupac was engaged. His girl literally moved to be closer and actually was a signed in visitor every day he was in there. That was proven. Jaida is a compulsive liar and she is trying to use Tupac’s name to give her cred.
When Jada speaks about Tupac having charisma and courage, she says “It’s not a lot of people that have that kind of charisma and courage to just come up on me…” so she’s complementing herself as well as him, by basically saying she was so beautiful, intimidating or unattainable (or whatever it is she thinks of herself) that it took courage for him to even approach her. She may truly idolize Tupac in her memories but she also idolizes herself.
So, the problem I have is this: When you are married to someone and constantly bring up an old, dead love, it never allows your partner to feel secure in the relationship. That is controlling , abusive, and unfair to one's partner.
The situation that she has created is like the movie Rebecca were the wife live her marriage as constant torment competing with the“supposedly” marvelous and perfect first dead wife. It’s horrible and dynamite self-steam to the bone. Just extremely narcissist. Jada should have move on already enough is enough.
I definitely agree she played will an she acts like she don't see it, let me let you if she gets another guy he gonna be the one to put his foot down an get that respect he deserves
Yes!! 💯💯💯 My Boyfriend passed in 2020, i took the time to grieve & heal. I'm now engaged to a wonderful, amazing man! I don't bring him up all the time, I used too when I was still grieving but I always made sure my fiancé knows I love him & am in love with him. However after you've healed for the most part you shouldn't be bringing all that up constantly, period. 🤦🏼♀️ 🤦🏼♀️ 🤦🏼♀️ I'm of the opinion she's a grifter & Will should have divorced her waay before now
100% agree with both comments! I came here to say that just when I thought I couldn’t be more impressed with Spidey’s analysis and objectivity, he takes it to a new level! Cannot tell you how much I value the work you put into this community Spidey, I’ve learnt - and continue to learn - so much from it. Thank you!
Has anyone actually read WILL’s book? Because even he says that Jada wasn’t interested in him to begin with and it comes across like she never was. (And still isn’t IMO) The way Will puts it makes it sound like Jada was contemptuous and derogatory towards him when they first met and he talks about other things that have happened throughout their relationship that reiterate that. Will was the one pursuing Jada. She never wanted him. In my opinion, Jada started dating Will to try to make Tupac jealous and after he died she took advantage of Will’s infatuation and has been using him ever since. She doesn’t love him. She loves what he provides for her and she knows she’ll never do any better.
@mariejae Tupac and Jada had a follow out and were not in communication for 2 years. At the time of Tupac brutal murder their was no communication between them. Based on multiple interviews from people close to Tupac.
Well the fact that she said that she was crying during the wedding the wedding’s day says a lot. She was never in love with him and Will knew it from the beginning. But like most men do, he thought that “she will fall in love with me at the end”.
I feel like the other aspect of Tupac is that she's placed him on this huge golden pedestal of perfection, which isn't uncommon, & because he died young, suddenly & unexpectedly he never had a chance to "fall from grace" in her eyes. He didn't live long enough to hurt her, break her heart, or disappoint her. As time goes on, the more we forget any of the "bad stuff" and the more perfect the deceased person on the pedestal becomes. No one can possibly compete with Golden Pedestal Tupac. All others will pale in comparison because he can, quite literally, do no wrong. I'm not saying I blame her. It's very common. Only that, that might also explain why she's SO expressive, mind blown & enamored with him, but less so Will. If roles were reversed, no doubt Will would have been Golden Pedestal Man. It's just an unhealthy expectation that all living men will fall short of in comparison. I'm not saying that's necessarily what she's doing, just that it might explain why she's still so enamored with him & their relationship, whereas Will clearly pales in comparison.
This is such a good point. We tend to hold on to "what might have been" and sometimes that becomes the reality. In her mind they may have had a future. We'll never know.
They were not in speaking terms when he died. And she was not that meaningful to him, allegedly. She is milking the memory of a dead man and humiliating his husband while at it.
No one will ever live up to the idea we have or create for ourselves of a loved one we lost, especially after having much time with them. Period. She'll always feel it so deeply and no will will ever compare to the romanticized version of someone we create after they're gone. Idk and idc what her and PACs relationship ever was but I do know, it didn't have a chance to play out so in her head, it's whatever she needed and wanted it to be.
Wow this is such a good point. And so well expressed. You’re so right. She created a story based on memories and hope. It can be whatever she wants because nobody can correct it.
Pac had a fiance. She was where Jada wished she was. Jada wanted to be proposed to, however, pac was already engaged. She's using pac to illuminate herself into something great, she's all lies all ego.
How can a person ever live in the present when they're so hung up on the past? I'm so tired of hearing her talk about her amazing love affair with Tupak. The man has been gone 27 years and it seems like she uses him as a model for every other relationship after that to live up to. It just boggles my mind.
Agreed! He was 25 when he was killed. Yes he made a memorable mark, spoke some words of wisdom for his relatively young age but the idolising of him is a little grandiose. Jada is stuck in the stories of her life with a dead man instead of living present and aware of the loyalty she hardly deserves from her partner
What does “hung up” mean and what is your evidence that she is “hung up” on Tupac? She’s a human being, who was deeply affected by someone. Your comments are incredibly revealing about yourself, and appeared to say nothing at all about Jada.
She’s only saying these lies because she’s so desperate to be relevant is some way or another. She is using everyones respect amd admiration for Tupac and trying to bi proxi stealing some of that for herself somehow.. He also had other girlfriends and at the same time she said he asked her to marry him. Also men in jail often say stuff like that 😂
To be honest, people get hung up on other people all the time. It isn’t unusual, but does she have to broadcast it to the world? Does she have to embarrass the man she married, build a life with for 20 something years, and has children with? It’s really messed up. Edit: Watching the end of the video, this woman is a hypocrite. She’s talking about appreciating loved ones, where is her appreciation of Will? I guess I have to read to book to find out more about that subject 😂
This is the most complimentary she’s ever been towards Will. People are complicated but it’s hard to watch Jada trying to come off as enlightened, while never admitting fault or taking responsibility. She uses the vocabulary of therapy or self-awareness to excuse, justify or distract from her actions/words. I don’t dislike her as a person, but I dislike her actions. Most of us lie to ourselves. But she is all about her ego. And lies to protect it. Feelings over reality. Diary of a CEO is one of my favorite podcasters ever. He has this curiosity and enough humility to bring out the best in his interviewer.
Please no more JPS she's magnifying her relationship with Tupac. She's trying to sell her book. Who cares about her or the destructive so called marriage she has had with Will Smith. I feel sorry for their kids ...their all confused & mixed up how could she get entangled with her sons friend I would hate my Mum if this happened to me . Millions of people are separated divorced who gives a dam about her & her shenagians. Get a real life JPS
@@snooopydooo Exactly this. Who she is "as a person" is known by herself and God and that's it. The rest of us identify and qualify her by her actions.
She has always come across as wanting to sound intelligent, well educated, enlightened. She’s always selected her words carefully as if she’s practiced them ahead of time. I felt she was never her true self. I became very bored when she spoke bc it wasn’t authentic. That has always been my experience of her.
Here's the thing about mental illness... We dont filter information the same way as the average brain and I have this growing sense that JPS stayed stuck in her teenager self and has progressively idealized her relationship with TS to the point that she's made it this fantasy which only grows in embellishments the more she retells her story. At the same time, she never skips a beat in making sure everyone knows that WS is not her ideal partner... She wanted the gangster, street smarts, charismatic, larger than life personality that was TS. She wanted to be written into his legacy and because she didn't accomplish it during HIS LIFE she's attempting to rewrite the story AFTER DEATH because the poor man cannot defend himself. Im also surprised that Tupac doesnt have friends or family from that era or even other women that could maybe shed more light into their true friendship. We already know JPS is a pathological liar... But it would be delicious if someone came out with receipts to put that woman in her place once and for all.
When TS passed away, he was engaged to another woman. It amazes me how JP seems to ignore this. T was in love with another woman. The way she goes on & on about him, breaks my heart for Will. He's been in the shadow of a ghost for 20+ years. He didn't deserve that, imo. He's a wonderfully successful, self-made man with a good heart. I can't stand how she has to rip him down, all because he isn't "gangster." I really hope he gets away from her ❤ Take care!
Yes! I million times this. Came to say pretty much the same thing. But also, there are people that have spoken out against her claims, but I don’t think anyone cares enough to make as much noise about it as she has. However, if you look back at any clips of Tupac talking about Jada, he described her as like a little sister. There’s no doubt they were close, but not the way she would have liked. But like you said, it’s because he’s not here to defend himself that she can continue going HAM on this fantasy.
Woow. You explained it amazingly. Specially the part “she is stuck in her teenage years”. No offence but I’ve seen that in many Middle Age women. What makes jada’s one so gross is that she is wealthy and has a man who loves her. I’m starting to believe she’s is just self-centred.
The moment in the interview that stuck out for me was when Jada was talking about Will and described him as "joyful" ... with a perfectly neutral expression. If I were talking about someone I loved and described that person as joyful, I think that I would smile unconsciously and automatically because thinking about their joy would give me joy. Now, I'm not going to sit here and speculate about what her lack of reaction means but I will say that, subjectively, I find it chilling.
Exactly, this woman is a pathological liar. The state of New York records indicate that Tupac had been transferred to another state to complete prison sentence when the supposed "marriage proposal" was occurring. Timeliness do not corroborate her story
@@mojadah10Why get married if he might go to jail? If he truly loved her he wouldn’t tie her down if he was going to jail. And if he was seriously interested in her he would’ve already tried to get in bed with her. He obviously didn’t see her that way.
If Tupac wanted Jada like that, it would have happened. She definitely lying. Tupac had his choice of woman, Madonna wanted him, he turned her down and the letter was recently bought at auction.
I love the fact that you are able to see the humanity in Jada Pinkett-Smith. You're right that a lot of us see her as narcissistic and self-serving. But we would be in danger of becoming like that ourselves if we can't find some sympathy - or even empathy - for when even someone like her is genuinely sorrowful. You're awesome, Spidey!
There's nothing wrong with being selective with empathy and anyone who thinks a bleeding heart is the moral high ground also runs the danger of thinking your 💩 don't stink, much like Jada.
While this is true it’s dangerous to go there for someone who is directly dealing with a narcissist/sociopath. They will never take responsibility and while it may not be their fault that they have this personality disorder it’s an extremely unbearable environment for those who have a familial connection.
While the allure of youthful romance can indeed be captivating, it's disheartening to see only a lackluster level of affection and esteem for Will, the father of her children, the man with whom she has spent numerous years. It's deplorable😔
Agreed. I lost my first love to a tragic overdose. Do I think about him from time to time? Of course. Do I bring it constantly to my partner and future husband..? Absolutely not..some things are between you and yourself.
VERY IMPORTANT NOTE for this analysis: For context, that picture that brought her to tears wasn't JUST about Tupac, who passed shortly after that pic. The other woman in the photo, her friend Maxine, took her own life shortly after as well. So seeing that photo and remembering that time is probably VERY real for her (which Spidey expertly pointed out). Then you add not being on good terms when Pac passed, there's a lot to process. Photos can like time travel...thinking about it is one thing but seeing the picture is a lot to handle.
Jade seems like someone who hasn't matured in a healthy direction emotionally and that is a hard place to be, especially in public. I have compassion for someone like that even as I also don't like the behaviors I see or want to be around them. Spidey I always admire your analyses that help me remember we are all just humans trying to get along...and we can all use understandings of body and facial cues to decide who is good for us to be around, or maybe not so good for us. You are teaching some real skills for life and demonstrating some real values that make the world a better place. Thank you.
@@neva_nyx professionals can be amazing at picking apart the nuances. C-PTSD and ADHD can both mimic personality disorders. It would be nice for herself if she could get some deep help and discover what she needs inside herself.
I honestly believe Jada is a master manipulator. She'll appear to be honest and truthful, but then turn right around and change her thoughts and feelings for the same situation in a different setting to manipulate those in the room listening to her. She's an emotional con artist. Scary
I appreciate the personal integrity and professionalism you always bring to your videos, Spidey. It's true, very rarely is someone 100% an evil person. It's not healthy to think of ourselves or others with all-or-nothing summarizing.
Spidey , this was by far the best analysis I’ve seen on Jada. Completely objective and fair. Also I agree this interviewer was amazing he would probably do well in the interrogation room! Thank you so much.
8:45 I never take head-tilting at face-value, because it's the best (though still obvious) way to fake sympathy, empathy, understanding. And when we use it, specially as the receptor, it motivates the interlocutor to keep talking, and go more in-depth, giving us the information we want.
I always wondered why I would tilt my head a lot. People have taken photos of me and my heads tilted in many of them. I think i do it because I do feel empathy for others, and maybe it's when I'm listening intently that I do it more x
Yeah 😞 at the end this is the thing that breaks my heart the most. Will used to be so joyful and happy, he was a beam of positivity. His whole vibe is entirely different. I don’t know if we can single handedly blame her, I’m sure there’s a lot at play, but it’s hard to believe she wasn’t a contributing factor .
@@TheBehavioralArts He’s certainly not the rapper/FPoBA from my teen years anymore…so sad I did feel some empathy for her when she was looking at that picture of Tupac & Maxine but I don’t think she was mourning his death, more that she missed an opportunity with him and probably wanted more than ‘friend zone’.
I have so much respect for you and your approach to behavioural analysis. This particular video was so interesting to me because, like you, I’m not a huge fan of Jada… but I’m fascinated when I see someone expressing genuine emotions like she did (seeing her vulnerability made her more “human” to me). I appreciate that you don’t let your personal opinions get in the way of sound analysis. It’s what makes your channel one of my favourites (plus you just seem like a really nice person). Thank you so much for always putting out thought-provoking and insightful content.
At the 6:44 minute when she's saying she had emotional intimacy, intellectual intimacy etc with Tupac ... Will mirrored this sentiment towards her in an interview he did with Oprah and to a lesser extent in other interviews. So its very interesting because Will mimics her quite a bit, down to the way they fake laugh where they're laughing but not really, they're actually looking to see if you're buying their bs.
You really got me with your “arguing from conclusion” I believe you called it. And also the 5 second test-which is very thought provoking. I don’t like Jada, I’m team Will, even quietly team “free Will” & in that I have been gathering evidence to confirm my bias. It was going really well in this video until she genuinely cried & I felt it & teared up & I finally had empathy for the woman & thought man she really misses her friend. And then you said what you said about arguing from conclusion etc & I realized that’s exactly what I have been doing. Happy to see another side of her & open my mind up to more information instead of just more witch hunt. GREAT ANALYSIS! Thanks Spidey.
We can recognize and call out bad behavior, while at the same time recognizing that the person doing the behavior is still a human being with actual thoughts and feelings, too. Yeah, I feel sympathy for Jada for things she's suffered. And at the same time, I still detest her treatment of her husband.
Wow thanks. It’s important to check our biases or just be aware of them. It may not change a thing. We might still see her as a manipulative person and think Will needs to get out of this relationship. At the end of the day it might just be “ok, she had this real moment, but it doesn’t change anything.” But yeah, having a conclusion and not challenging it at all is a very foolish way to proceed imo. I’m glad it gave you something to think about ❤️
@@misspickles47 at the end of the day it is his choice. He isn’t saying his life is a living hell however. We are just inferring that. We just don’t know. But I hear you and have many of the same thoughts. Still, my opinion doesn’t make it true.
I completely agree, and well done, you!! I can admit when I'm putting my emotional opinion before fact, based on biases, sometimes. I'm grateful I can usually recognize those moments, and correct myself based on what the person's truth is, and not be lazy, by just relying on my biased opinions.
...the video of your appearence at the iconic "APOLLO" is fabulous---You owned that aisle as you walked up it...and Steve! owned the stage as he stepped! out...😮😊
I wonder why Jada seemingly felt forced to end up with/marry Will when she clearly wasn't impressed by him at all. She said herself that she could have "any" man she wanted so why "settle" for Will ?????
That ambition of “from the hood to the White House “ and because Will Smith said he wanted to “take over the world” would be my guess…..she wanted the power, influence and money 💰 she knew he’d earn. Plus let’s be honest….she couldn’t get anyone she wanted .. she knows that but is trying to fool everybody else.
Perhaps she wanted to ride on his coat-tails. She said she admired Will's ambition and confidence "from the hood to the White House" - she was envious of that. But the envy seems to have curdled into jealousy and resentment.
First and foremost! So happy you called Steven "a great interviewer". You two are my top creators. Never thought I'll see you in one space (albeit on UA-cam) my soul is happy 😊
My mom is a pathological liar too. She's always been living in her fantasy world. I remember when she talked about her past relationships and that she made THEM break up with her so that they can get a nicer closure because they're not the dumped ones...😒 At the time, I believed every single word she said. But later on, when I was old enough I just realized she was only 17 when she gave birth to my brother. A 17-year-old young girl. What past relationships?? What love games?? She was just a teenager with probably 0 to 1 experience, but in her mind she was sooo mature and an expert on relationships. She was literally a kid. I feel the same way with Jada. She's talking about Tupac like they had a 10-year- long relationship or something.... It was 27 years ago, there's nothing to talk about. It was nothing...All in her head.
Jada was in a couple of Tupacs early music videos (Keep Ya Head Up). When she was on a TV show (A Different World) he guest starred. They spoke of eachother in interviews. They were very close, loyal friends. Whatever we don't like about her, I don't understand why people think what she says about their friendship is false.
@@mojadah10 I must admit, it's because I have watched Tupac fans who knew his life story debunk how the Rykers visit could not have happened according to her timeline (maybe she misremembered some dates?)... anyway, I can see how she has real deep feelings fo Tupac and they had real connection at one time. So there's that. But Jada embellishes her tales and memories and is so unreliable one just takes anything she says with a grain of salt. I am not saying her friendship is false, though. But like most commenters here, I understand how it can be more romantic to sanitize and glorify a dead man's memory than to live with real people in the real world.
@@mojadah10 I don't question their friendship, I'm sure it wasn't fake. But romanticizing a friendship over your own marriage for decades is just a major red flag to me. She openly chooses Tupac over her husband over and over again and acts like it was a forced marriage. Maybe it was in a way, I don't know. But she could have millions chances to divorce. Yet, she chooses to b*tch about Will all the time, meanwhile talking abour Tupac like he was a god.
I always love how these videos feel like brain breaks. With all the empty content in UA-cam these days I always feel so good knowing I’ve learned something every Saturday morning 😂 you’re the best spidey
We react to how ppl make us feel. I don't know the in's and out's of her and Will's relationship but she makes me feel that something isn't right. If genuine love isn't there, it's time to let the relationship go.
I’m SO DISTRACTED by the Prada on your shirt….its almost glowing….. Excellent analysis! She clearly isn’t the love or partner Will thinks or thought she was/is….. He could do so much better. She’s no prize.
I’m just going to fan-girl here for a bit one of my favourite channels analyzing an interview done by another favourite channel!! I know this was an analysis of JPS but honestly I’m excited to hear you talk about Steven and his great interviewing skills. I love how I’m learning so much from both of you and this crossover just made my day 💛🤩.
Imagine having your life and reputation destroyed by someone you're married to who doesn't even remotely care about you and is currently head over heels in love with someone who's been dead for over 27 years. And to add insult to injury goes on to write books and do interviews further denigrating you in front of the entire world.
How heartbreaking it must have been for him to learn that not only his wife preferred another man, but that his daughter also preferred another father. All thanks to the mother's unceasing, highly-public whining.
This was a good place to stop, and so very true. People don't understand how destructive anger, hate, any negative emotion is really bad for you to hold on to. Even the minor ones like disgust and disrespect. Life is way to short. Thank you for explaining things we might have missed. It is enjoyable always to see if I have it right or not just going on my experience, and visceral feelings. Hope this finds you happy and healthy my friend. See you next time
Spidey, i love how you educate us...learning about smiles and your examples. Ive been in the people biz since the late '80s... ive always taken on people's "stuff"...when i got into my career, i would come home absolutely drained. Being able to read people's energy is a blessing and a curse. Im SO glad i found you!! You're one of my faves! This is my take on Jaida: she is the kind of narcissist that is scary. To me, she's also a sociopath. I feel so bad for Will and her children. She's got Will totally hypnotized to her "religion". If he ever leaves her, he'll need so much unbrainwashing therapy. I know that sounds harsh...but..🤷🏼♀️
I’m so glad I found your channel. Ever since the show ‘Lie to me’ I’ve been obsessed with micro expressions. Completely fascinated with your field of expertise!!
I think I can speak on long term grief. My dad passed suddenly 2 weeks before my 14th birthday (just to give an idea of where I was at in my mental and emotional development) and it actually stunted my emotional growth for a few years. No one will ever take my dad’s place, he was and still is my dad. I’m 25 now and i still feel that way. Yes I have other strong male figures in my life, but no one will ever be my dad again. My mom has dated since my dad’s passing but she still considers herself married since they never fell out of love, and in her words she had a perfect marriage why would she mess with a perfect record. She had to tell her ex’s that they need to stop comparing themselves to my dad because they were in love when he died. She never stopped loving him and he never stopped loving her. It was an accident. It’s hard to be with someone whose greatest love died suddenly, you think about the living differently than you do the dead. The dead can’t do anything it’s only the memories, someone who is living can annoy you and irritate you one moment and make you happy the next. It’s hard to think about the hardships with my dad, I was a teenage girl with overwhelming anxiety who was being bullied at school. I wasn’t the prefect daughter and there are no more next times. I didn’t say I loved my dad the night before he passed and I now refuse to go to bed before saying it to my loved ones. Grief changes you, and it impacts you in ways you don’t even think about, I still struggle to think about that last night I saw my dad, because I can’t go back and say the things I would now. But I can tell you my dad was annoying, I love him so much but he was an utter dork and would do things to embarrass his teenage daughter and that very much included talking in his hyper thick québécois English accent to my friends who tried so hard to understand him, he would call out very loudly that he loved me when he would drop me off or he would just be a dad. I can think about that now but I don’t think about it like I did back then. I’m not annoyed at my dad right now. I just miss him and love him. Again it’s that grief you cant be annoyed at someone who hasn’t annoyed you in years because they just aren’t there but I can currently be annoyed at my cat who made me walk around the house just to brush him because he can’t sit still.
You have a very good point on this. I have not watched the interview. And to see her break down truly feels human, real, and honest. I don't care for her very much, however I am not going to think she has no pain in her heart. We are all human. It's good to see it when we can. Well put Spidey.
7:30 nobody could ever hold a candle to Tupac because not only was he beautiful on the outside but he was deep on the inside and he seemed exactly as she portrayed him. What a devastating loss that must have been for her. But as an adult she had an obligation to treat her husband well and I don't think she did. That's on her. If you can't make a marriage with Will Smith work passably, you got issues 😆
Who. Who says this about their ex while they are still with a current partner? That’s a mean thing to do. She’s mean and horrible. And she screws her sons friend! This woman needs to be called out and shut up
💯!!! My sons are in their early 20s. I absolutely adore their closest friends. The thought of gettin it on with one of them genuinely makes me wanna retch. I love their friends in a motherly way. NOT in a sexual let’s get down kinda way.
So glad you did this interview. It's the only one I've watched entirely and thought was really interesting in terms of body language. Can't wait to watch it!
That’s a very cruel thing to keep saying about her marriage to Will in public over and over, that she really didn’t want to be with him. That’s what strikes me about Jada..she is exceptionally cruel to Will Smith. He’s not blameless, but I think she delights in seeing him hurt. Will is depressed. He’s beaten down. It’s a different form of a classic abusive marriage, only society assigns more shame to the man when he’s the one that is psychologically abused. Burns me up. Will made a HUGE mistake at the Oscars, and he’s paying for it as he should, but Jada was the entire catalyst for what happened. I think it delighted her, what happened, with no thought given to just how much it hurt Will’s career, reputation, his heart, and even his relationships with his professional peers, including Chris Rock and his family. Jada doesn’t appear to care. Either that or she’s just completely self-absorbed and doesn’t see how she comes off.
Thank you for keeping your videos completely objective, it absolutely helps me to see the actual behaviors you are assessing vs coming at it from a biased angle like you mentioned. I stopped following another UA-cam channel personality that solely focused on the negative about certain celebrities and wasn’t all that great or informative. It simply just fueled the “hate them” fire, which I disagree with. Thanks for doing such an amazing job analyzing behaviors and explaining it to your audience. Learning so much from you!
My mother was both a sociopath and a narcissist, so I am sensitive to people who display reminders of her. Jada grates on my nerves. I hope Will wakes up and frees himself.
Spidey, I really appreciated what you said about arguing from a conclusion. You made me want to share this video with everyone I know that does that. So well said.
Finally, someone covering THIS interview. Thank you Spidey. Stephen is an incredible interviewer, it truly feels like he learns a little from each interview and improves his technique. Jada is a piece of work, Poor Will. ❤️🖖🏼
The way she talks about their "intellectual" connection, and how intelligent Will is as well, it's giving me strong "I'm such a deep thinker, I need someone who can keep up and stimulate me intellectually" vibes. A lot of times the people who emphasise how attracted they are to someone's InTeLlEcT (🙄) are just trying to seem smart themselves. Just as with the "he was brave enough to walk up to ME", she's complimenting herself by complimenting someone else. I'll have to pay attention to that specifically, but I have a feeling that she tends to subtly (or not so subtly) put herself on some kind of pedestal. Like a more subliminal way of humblebragging? Sorry, english is not my first language so I had to improvise in some places to circumscribe what I meant 😅
Ugh, yes, my sister who is a bona fide narc is exactly like this and it is so cringe to watch because they don't even realize that is how it comes off. Just makes you want to roll your eyes and then laugh
Its very interesting that these people are the ones who receive deep love and admiration while people who are truely humble and sweet get walked over. Society definitely accepts narc behavior than genuine behavior. So either way shes more likable
I love your positivity, how you try and remain objective. You definitely lead by example thank you for you insight and lessons. I find body language fascinating and challenging. Take Care, Best Wishes for all.
Someone on tiktok debunked her visit to Rikers, saying Tupac was married during the time she claimed he proposed to her, apparently the timeline doesn’t match. Video went viral and this was before this interview.
I can't imagine wasting almost 30 years of my life on a dead man who didn't love me like that. Let's not forget that Jada's obsession with Tupac is one sided. He friend zoned her & married his actual girlfriend right after he got out of Rikers. Jada was hanging out in LA with Will.... probably trying to make Tupac jealous since it's that girlfriend that he asked to marry him right before he went to Rikers for 30 days, not Jada.
I thought the “like breaking up with a boyfriend” meant “he obviously had not had sufficient time to process the end of that marriage when he called me to begin dating, and so he brought (and I naively let him bring) unresolved issues into our relationship right at its foundation. And these issues have played themselves out throughout our time together.”
I eagerly await your co-LIve with Rob/LawLumber tonight ~ 28OCT23 ~ (I recall Rob said 6p ET during last night's stream). Your explanation of "arguing from a conclusion" already helped me comprehend why I was having trouble understanding one witness's behavior and testimony. Thanks, Spidey; see you again at 6p ET.
Thank you Spidey, for sharing your thoughts and insights. I appreciate your compassion and critical thinking. Jada wrote that in her earlier life she never wanted to appear vulnerable so you’re right about that. Before Tupac died, he and Jada had an argument and never made up. She met him in high school when he was dirt poor (with barely any clothing) so she bought him clothes and devised ways to give them to him in such a way that allowed him to accept her gifts without embarrassment. Later, when she needed help he was there for her, so they formed a huge bond. Her comment about how we wouldn’t care about some beefs etc. we have on our deathbed helped me too. I doubt if a narcissist would have the ability to be such a deep thinker.
You have a specific gift for accessing your clinical training to bring out the humanity in us all. I hope your message - not just regarding Jada - travels far and wide. Thank you.
Another great analysis, Spidey. The last clip says to me she feels she will be thinking about Tupac on her deathbed or that was something she told Will regarding their relationship and his ambition which seems to be too big for her. When she says he didn't seem "deep" enough in the beginning. That's just because he was youthfully joyful while she had lived all that deep unhappy emotion with Tupac which seemed to her the sense of living and shook her to the core. Also, the emotion she feels when she talks about visiting him in jail. It seems to me she feels guilty about leaving him there in such a state and going for something better with Will. She decided to go for the material wealth she felt she could have with Will but at the same time she started hating him for having all the success also because he had it without much of her help and that didn't provide her with the feeling of importance which potentially drove her to her depression and suicidal thoughts around the age of 40.
Hey Spidey, thank you for this video and for always reminding us to be kind. I went from being a fan of Jada to not liking a lot of the stuff she's done but one thing I feel we cannot deny is that what she felt there was real grief. Tupac is the one that got away for her, she's looking back fondly at the memories while I feel that with Will the reason she doesn't do that is because he's still alive and well. We as human tend to suddenly romanticizes those that have passed away, there is no negative points or flaw, maybe that's why we say "Don't speak ill of the dead." I felt sympathy for her and appreciated the fact that the interviewer held space by hugging her and in a way blocking her from the camera so that she could have her moment to grief for what she's lost.
This particular interview presented me with a totally different perspective of Jada Pinkett Smith and after viewing I felt that she displayed vulnerability that I haven’t seen in previous interviews. Lots of healing is needed in this family. I hope they are able to find it. So glad that you analyzed it because it offers me a chance to check my own bias and lack of knowledge regarding other folks experiences. I’m still not interested in buying the book.
I don't even think she is feeling the feelings she's pretending to feel. I think she's just so narcissistic that she can only think about herself and how she's coming across to others
I haven't watched this video yet, but I did just finish the Dear Mama documentary because I didn't know that much about Tupac - there was no mention about Jada being a significant person in Tupac's life. So I don't really know exactly what their relationship was other that what Jada says. But speaking of very interesting body language and use of voice and facial expressions, Tupac would be a really good one to study especially in chronological order. I saw his demeanor change from youth to early adulthood pretty drastically (at least in that documentary) almost to where he seemed like 2 totally different people and i have 3 theories as to why. I'd be curious to see your take! Thanks for the videos!!
Hey Spidey, loving those little curls in your hair 🥰 Jada's face lights up whenever she mentions Tupac in the same way I'm sure your partner lights up to your cute curls 🤩 Only 50 k more subscribers to reach the big M, looking forward to the celebration! Thanks for all the great content, we learn so much together 🥰
Another excellent, objective analysis! Ever since I started watching your videos I find that I look for behavioral cues when I interview candidates for positions and when I'm in meetings with my coworkers! Oh boy....what a new perspective on company meetings!!!🤣
I dealt with a former celebrity/pro athlete, now has-been, and could compare what you wrote with what I saw in their behavior. They’re delusional and narcissistic. The abuse was off the charts. These people have better social skills to manipulate others because they often have to shift their “vibration” from feeling any shame from their behavior and pathetic lies to match the audience their trying to capture, where the rest of us internalize things, work to be better humans to avoid the “house of cards” disaster when the truth is revealed.
Imagine a timeline where Tupac was still alive, was married to Jada, and she was his Yoko Ono. Over the last 30 years, she's broken him down and sent him down a path similar to Will.
It asks a lot to imagine a timeline like that. However Tupac has a far different spirit compared to Will. Tupac would never submit to her foolishness. This is why she favors the past - Tupac isn’t around to check her.
I don’t think he would have chosen her. I think he knew something was off. He kept her in the friend zone for a reason. He was engaged to someone else. I think He could have had Jada if he wanted her.
Such a big fan of you and Dairy of a ceo. And I often find myself putting to use your great advise while watching his interviews. So cool to see you agree about his skillset.
Great job Spidey! I always learn so much from you. Not just from a behavior aspect, but I also love how you don’t get persuaded by the “mob mentality” that so many get sucked into.
One point about the interview that I find interesting is the way she contrasted the beginning of her relationship with Tupac vs Will. I could say a lot about it, but basically they both approached her boldly. With one she presented it as an example of who he was as a person, how unique and special he was, and with the other it was a strategy that got her interested in him, but it didn't necessarily correlate with impressive character. It comes off like she's saying that Tupac's boldness was more real, more genuine, more innate to his personality than Will's plain old Hollywood hubris.
You were right on the call to talk about the likely real sadness expression. I feel you are right. She literally couldn't keep speaking. I have felt this myself.
I really love how you throw out analogies to help us understand your point. Case in point, look around the room you are in for RED items...how many GREEN items did you see. Perfectly stated to help understand what you mean. I so appreciate that. I really enjoy your content. Thank you for your work.
When Jada starts crying when she sees the photo, I also feel it's genuine, but the reason for these emotions doesn't have to have anything to do with the people in the picture. Maybe she remembers the time and it was all so exciting back then and she was young and her life path was still open... because I find it strange that she puts the photo on the table so quickly with one quick movement. When I see loved ones in a photo, I cherish that photo, that piece of paper. I have the feeling that at that moment she is mourning something else and that she is bitter.
Hi Spidey! I just wanted to tell you I absolutely love your channel. I learn so much! I love how open minded you are with your content as well. I also have watched Stephen on Diary of a CEO as well; he is fantastic! I truly believe when he presented that photo to Jada she was genuine in her reaction. For him to get down and hug her; I think he could tell she was being real. Had she been fake or pretending I don't think Stephen would have bent down to hug her. I don't judge either. I think we all make mistakes and learn from them. I think when you grow up neglected by both Parents and witness things you should not as a child, it creates trauma and you become hyper vigilant. I think Jada didn't feel safe growing up. She didn't know if she would make it day to day or if her Parents would. So I think with Tupac she did love him and he provided her with this love, protection and stability she didn't get from her youth. It is a terrible feeling to not be able to trust and feel happiness in any moment because you are so used to chaos and disorder. You almost become numb to the good and expect only the bad. I think that is because when we intake good it makes us vulnerable and we let our guard down. So keeping your guard up protects you but you also don't let people in. I know this all too well! I had to unlearn what I learned by watching my incompetent Parents. Thank God for Cognitive behavioral therapy! If not I would have never learned to self regulate my emotions and stayed blinded by horrible cognitive distortions. Circling back to Jada, I truly think she will need to be in a relationship that provides a very high level of security and protection. I think that is why Will hit Chris Rick. I am sure Jada probably has said to him, well Tupac would have had my back. She needs a man that will have her back bc growing up no one did. It's one of the very reasons I have been married to my husband of 30 years. I never felt safe as a child or teen. But when I met my husband in high school I did. He was kind, assertive and very protective. I needed that to help me learn to trust and believe that people are good. Thank you Spidey!! I look forward to watching you and Rob tonight! God bless!😊
Not trying to say anything bad when I say this, but I think Stephen (Diary of a CEO) hugged her not only because she was being real, but he also was aware of the position he put her in. That picture isn't just a pic of her last time with Tupac...the other woman in the photo (her good friend Maxine) took her own life not too long after as well. It's hard to present that photo to someone unexpectedly and it not be triggering, and Stephene mentioned Maxine's name so he was aware. Not to argue whether he should have showed the photo or not, but he seems like a solid dude, so I wouldn't be surprised if he felt some sense of personal responsibility to be sensitive to Jada's state in that moment in addition to empathy for the pain itself.
I've had the lousy experience of visiting someone at Riker's. It's hard to tell if the unpleasantness she's expressing has to do with visiting someone you love in lockup, or the incredibly dehumanizing process that happens first. They treat visitors like criminals. It isn't surprising to me she wants to protect herself from those thoughts.
Wow. Thank you for sharing this. It really helps understand that moment of complete abandonment and defensiveness. It could be a combination of how she was treated and how she saw a friend get treated.
She's a liar. He was only there for 30 days and she was NOT there.
@@PippyPan What you're saying may be true, but there was something about her body language in that moment that I relate to. That feeling of defensiveness felt real. But now I don't know what to believe. She may be acting. I have no way of knowing for sure.
Yeah, she’s a real delicate flower. Poor thing
Yeah except she is lying and the timelines don’t add up. While Tupac was in Rikers she was just starting to date Will and Tupac was engaged. His girl literally moved to be closer and actually was a signed in visitor every day he was in there. That was proven. Jaida is a compulsive liar and she is trying to use Tupac’s name to give her cred.
When Jada speaks about Tupac having charisma and courage, she says “It’s not a lot of people that have that kind of charisma and courage to just come up on me…” so she’s complementing herself as well as him, by basically saying she was so beautiful, intimidating or unattainable (or whatever it is she thinks of herself) that it took courage for him to even approach her. She may truly idolize Tupac in her memories but she also idolizes herself.
Jada Pickett Smith and Amber Heard & Megan Markle are all narcissists
Yes, you are so spot on!
Very good observation. It only confirms what we always knew. Narcism at its raw form, selfishness
It’s all about herself.
@@ednanieves8572 So true !
So, the problem I have is this: When you are married to someone and constantly bring up an old, dead love, it never allows your partner to feel secure in the relationship. That is controlling , abusive, and unfair to one's partner.
That... THAT, right there.
The situation that she has created is like the movie Rebecca were the wife live her marriage as constant torment competing with the“supposedly” marvelous and perfect first dead wife. It’s horrible and dynamite self-steam to the bone. Just extremely narcissist. Jada should have move on already enough is enough.
You got that right. Great insight.
I definitely agree she played will an she acts like she don't see it, let me let you if she gets another guy he gonna be the one to put his foot down an get that respect he deserves
Yes!! 💯💯💯
My Boyfriend passed in 2020, i took the time to grieve & heal. I'm now engaged to a wonderful, amazing man! I don't bring him up all the time, I used too when I was still grieving but I always made sure my fiancé knows I love him & am in love with him. However after you've healed for the most part you shouldn't be bringing all that up constantly, period. 🤦🏼♀️ 🤦🏼♀️ 🤦🏼♀️
I'm of the opinion she's a grifter & Will should have divorced her waay before now
This is exactly why I love your channel. You aren’t just black and white. You see and consider the whole spectrum.
Thank you so much. It’s hard to do that in todays polarized world but I’m so glad we’re building a community here where we can consider both sides. ❤️
100% agree with both comments! I came here to say that just when I thought I couldn’t be more impressed with Spidey’s analysis and objectivity, he takes it to a new level! Cannot tell you how much I value the work you put into this community Spidey, I’ve learnt - and continue to learn - so much from it. Thank you!
Has anyone actually read WILL’s book? Because even he says that Jada wasn’t interested in him to begin with and it comes across like she never was. (And still isn’t IMO) The way Will puts it makes it sound like Jada was contemptuous and derogatory towards him when they first met and he talks about other things that have happened throughout their relationship that reiterate that. Will was the one pursuing Jada. She never wanted him. In my opinion, Jada started dating Will to try to make Tupac jealous and after he died she took advantage of Will’s infatuation and has been using him ever since. She doesn’t love him. She loves what he provides for her and she knows she’ll never do any better.
I totally agree Jada talks about Tupac to make Will Smith jealous and to take him down a few pegs
Ding Ding Ding !!!
Yes! Will knows she can never be happy even though he's tried. He attained her but because she settled. He's stuck, since there was no pre-nup.
@mariejae Tupac and Jada had a follow out and were not in communication for 2 years. At the time of Tupac brutal murder their was no communication between them.
Based on multiple interviews from people close to Tupac.
Well the fact that she said that she was crying during the wedding the wedding’s day says a lot. She was never in love with him and Will knew it from the beginning. But like most men do, he thought that “she will fall in love with me at the end”.
I feel like the other aspect of Tupac is that she's placed him on this huge golden pedestal of perfection, which isn't uncommon, & because he died young, suddenly & unexpectedly he never had a chance to "fall from grace" in her eyes. He didn't live long enough to hurt her, break her heart, or disappoint her.
As time goes on, the more we forget any of the "bad stuff" and the more perfect the deceased person on the pedestal becomes. No one can possibly compete with Golden Pedestal Tupac. All others will pale in comparison because he can, quite literally, do no wrong.
I'm not saying I blame her. It's very common. Only that, that might also explain why she's SO expressive, mind blown & enamored with him, but less so Will. If roles were reversed, no doubt Will would have been Golden Pedestal Man. It's just an unhealthy expectation that all living men will fall short of in comparison. I'm not saying that's necessarily what she's doing, just that it might explain why she's still so enamored with him & their relationship, whereas Will clearly pales in comparison.
Exactly. It was a short relationship.
This is such a good point. We tend to hold on to "what might have been" and sometimes that becomes the reality. In her mind they may have had a future. We'll never know.
That's right "You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain".
@@MenelmacarGRsuch a good quote!
They were not in speaking terms when he died. And she was not that meaningful to him, allegedly. She is milking the memory of a dead man and humiliating his husband while at it.
No one will ever live up to the idea we have or create for ourselves of a loved one we lost, especially after having much time with them. Period. She'll always feel it so deeply and no will will ever compare to the romanticized version of someone we create after they're gone. Idk and idc what her and PACs relationship ever was but I do know, it didn't have a chance to play out so in her head, it's whatever she needed and wanted it to be.
Wow this is such a good point. And so well expressed. You’re so right. She created a story based on memories and hope. It can be whatever she wants because nobody can correct it.
Pac had a fiance. She was where Jada wished she was. Jada wanted to be proposed to, however, pac was already engaged. She's using pac to illuminate herself into something great, she's all lies all ego.
You are so right!!
So much this. A fantasy will always be more perfect than an actual living person you spend day to day life with.
THANK YOU FOR THESE VIDEOS. THEY ARE VERY HELPFUL IN UNDERSTANDING HUMAN BODY LANGUAGE
How can a person ever live in the present when they're so hung up on the past? I'm so tired of hearing her talk about her amazing love affair with Tupak. The man has been gone 27 years and it seems like she uses him as a model for every other relationship after that to live up to. It just boggles my mind.
Agreed! He was 25 when he was killed. Yes he made a memorable mark, spoke some words of wisdom for his relatively young age but the idolising of him is a little grandiose. Jada is stuck in the stories of her life with a dead man instead of living present and aware of the loyalty she hardly deserves from her partner
And we have zero clue how 2Pac felt about her 😂 he had an affair with Madonna as well 😊
What does “hung up” mean and what is your evidence that she is “hung up” on Tupac?
She’s a human being, who was deeply affected by someone.
Your comments are incredibly revealing about yourself, and appeared to say nothing at all about Jada.
She’s only saying these lies because she’s so desperate to be relevant is some way or another. She is using everyones respect amd admiration for Tupac and trying to bi proxi stealing some of that for herself somehow.. He also had other girlfriends and at the same time she said he asked her to marry him. Also men in jail often say stuff like that 😂
To be honest, people get hung up on other people all the time. It isn’t unusual, but does she have to broadcast it to the world? Does she have to embarrass the man she married, build a life with for 20 something years, and has children with? It’s really messed up.
Edit: Watching the end of the video, this woman is a hypocrite. She’s talking about appreciating loved ones, where is her appreciation of Will? I guess I have to read to book to find out more about that subject 😂
This is the most complimentary she’s ever been towards Will. People are complicated but it’s hard to watch Jada trying to come off as enlightened, while never admitting fault or taking responsibility. She uses the vocabulary of therapy or self-awareness to excuse, justify or distract from her actions/words.
I don’t dislike her as a person, but I dislike her actions. Most of us lie to ourselves. But she is all about her ego. And lies to protect it. Feelings over reality.
Diary of a CEO is one of my favorite podcasters ever. He has this curiosity and enough humility to bring out the best in his interviewer.
Please no more JPS she's magnifying her relationship with Tupac. She's trying to sell her book. Who cares about her or the destructive so called marriage she has had with Will Smith. I feel sorry for their kids ...their all confused & mixed up how could she get entangled with her sons friend I would hate my Mum if this happened to me . Millions of people are separated divorced who gives a dam about her & her shenagians. Get a real life JPS
Great comment
@@snooopydooo Exactly this. Who she is "as a person" is known by herself and God and that's it. The rest of us identify and qualify her by her actions.
She is very calculated. I'm not interested in buying a lier book
She has always come across as wanting to sound intelligent, well educated, enlightened. She’s always selected her words carefully as if she’s practiced them ahead of time. I felt she was never her true self. I became very bored when she spoke bc it wasn’t authentic. That has always been my experience of her.
Here's the thing about mental illness... We dont filter information the same way as the average brain and I have this growing sense that JPS stayed stuck in her teenager self and has progressively idealized her relationship with TS to the point that she's made it this fantasy which only grows in embellishments the more she retells her story. At the same time, she never skips a beat in making sure everyone knows that WS is not her ideal partner... She wanted the gangster, street smarts, charismatic, larger than life personality that was TS. She wanted to be written into his legacy and because she didn't accomplish it during HIS LIFE she's attempting to rewrite the story AFTER DEATH because the poor man cannot defend himself. Im also surprised that Tupac doesnt have friends or family from that era or even other women that could maybe shed more light into their true friendship. We already know JPS is a pathological liar... But it would be delicious if someone came out with receipts to put that woman in her place once and for all.
When TS passed away, he was engaged to another woman. It amazes me how JP seems to ignore this. T was in love with another woman. The way she goes on & on about him, breaks my heart for Will. He's been in the shadow of a ghost for 20+ years. He didn't deserve that, imo. He's a wonderfully successful, self-made man with a good heart. I can't stand how she has to rip him down, all because he isn't "gangster." I really hope he gets away from her ❤
Take care!
In 'street language', she is called an 'alpha widow'.
Well said
Yes! I million times this. Came to say pretty much the same thing.
But also, there are people that have spoken out against her claims, but I don’t think anyone cares enough to make as much noise about it as she has.
However, if you look back at any clips of Tupac talking about Jada, he described her as like a little sister. There’s no doubt they were close, but not the way she would have liked. But like you said, it’s because he’s not here to defend himself that she can continue going HAM on this fantasy.
Woow. You explained it amazingly. Specially the part “she is stuck in her teenage years”. No offence but I’ve seen that in many Middle Age women. What makes jada’s one so gross is that she is wealthy and has a man who loves her. I’m starting to believe she’s is just self-centred.
The moment in the interview that stuck out for me was when Jada was talking about Will and described him as "joyful" ... with a perfectly neutral expression. If I were talking about someone I loved and described that person as joyful, I think that I would smile unconsciously and automatically because thinking about their joy would give me joy. Now, I'm not going to sit here and speculate about what her lack of reaction means but I will say that, subjectively, I find it chilling.
She may be unable to feel real joy at this point.
Yes. My first thought was to add “So I had to kill that joy”
My thought at this was that he “was” joyful but not any more. Which is quite sad really
@@andrea-rq1fe there are some who have dealt with them both in real life who state his hyper friendly image ppl have is just facade.
My thoughts too!!
So she and Tupac weren’t ever physically intimate but he was going to ask her to marry him?!? I do not buy that for a second 🙄🙄🙄
Exactly, this woman is a pathological liar. The state of New York records indicate that Tupac had been transferred to another state to complete prison sentence when the supposed "marriage proposal" was occurring. Timeliness do not corroborate her story
A man (facing jail time) wouldn't propose to a woman he has a tight bond with unless they'd been physically intimate already?
@@mojadah10Why get married if he might go to jail? If he truly loved her he wouldn’t tie her down if he was going to jail. And if he was seriously interested in her he would’ve already tried to get in bed with her. He obviously didn’t see her that way.
If Tupac wanted Jada like that, it would have happened. She definitely lying. Tupac had his choice of woman, Madonna wanted him, he turned her down and the letter was recently bought at auction.
That’s possible but the time frame is odd she always says they were just friends so I’m always confused
Respect for you as a behavioral analyst and as a person grows with every video! Fantastic analysis.
Thank you so much ❤️
I love the fact that you are able to see the humanity in Jada Pinkett-Smith. You're right that a lot of us see her as narcissistic and self-serving. But we would be in danger of becoming like that ourselves if we can't find some sympathy - or even empathy - for when even someone like her is genuinely sorrowful.
You're awesome, Spidey!
The lady has her own trauma for sure, I appreciate your post
There's nothing wrong with being selective with empathy and anyone who thinks a bleeding heart is the moral high ground also runs the danger of thinking your 💩 don't stink, much like Jada.
I def WONT end up like her if I don't sympathize with this monster haha
While this is true it’s dangerous to go there for someone who is directly dealing with a narcissist/sociopath. They will never take responsibility and while it may not be their fault that they have this personality disorder it’s an extremely unbearable environment for those who have a familial connection.
Please tell us, what part of Jada do you empathize with?
While the allure of youthful romance can indeed be captivating, it's disheartening to see only a lackluster level of affection and esteem for Will, the father of her children, the man with whom she has spent numerous years. It's deplorable😔
Agreed. I lost my first love to a tragic overdose. Do I think about him from time to time? Of course. Do I bring it constantly to my partner and future husband..? Absolutely not..some things are between you and yourself.
I agree. He loves her more than she loves him.
I could describe a stranger at a bus stop w more enthusiasm.
It’s like she’s shaming him and telling the world that WS needs to earn her love.
@@tranquilrabieslol for sure.
VERY IMPORTANT NOTE for this analysis: For context, that picture that brought her to tears wasn't JUST about Tupac, who passed shortly after that pic. The other woman in the photo, her friend Maxine, took her own life shortly after as well. So seeing that photo and remembering that time is probably VERY real for her (which Spidey expertly pointed out). Then you add not being on good terms when Pac passed, there's a lot to process. Photos can like time travel...thinking about it is one thing but seeing the picture is a lot to handle.
Thank you for that additional context, it helps with understanding what’s happening here.
YES I could not hear all the people were.
Jade seems like someone who hasn't matured in a healthy direction emotionally and that is a hard place to be, especially in public. I have compassion for someone like that even as I also don't like the behaviors I see or want to be around them.
Spidey I always admire your analyses that help me remember we are all just humans trying to get along...and we can all use understandings of body and facial cues to decide who is good for us to be around, or maybe not so good for us. You are teaching some real skills for life and demonstrating some real values that make the world a better place. Thank you.
She says never there was physical intimacy.. girl then he did not want to marry you you were just a friend
I'd say she has at least one personality disorder, but we'd need a doctor to be sure.
@@neva_nyx professionals can be amazing at picking apart the nuances. C-PTSD and ADHD can both mimic personality disorders. It would be nice for herself if she could get some deep help and discover what she needs inside herself.
She’s got a lot of insecurities she could heal with therapy, but she sounds more comfortable talking about therapy without actually doing it.
I honestly believe Jada is a master manipulator. She'll appear to be honest and truthful, but then turn right around and change her thoughts and feelings for the same situation in a different setting to manipulate those in the room listening to her. She's an emotional con artist. Scary
She does not appear trustful at all
Very much so!
That's because she's a narcissist
She believes her own bullshit.
Poor Will got sucked into it because he loved her but she never loved him. He deserves to be loved as a husband and a father.
I appreciate the personal integrity and professionalism you always bring to your videos, Spidey. It's true, very rarely is someone 100% an evil person. It's not healthy to think of ourselves or others with all-or-nothing summarizing.
Spidey , this was by far the best analysis I’ve seen on Jada.
Completely objective and fair.
Also I agree this interviewer was amazing he would probably do well in the interrogation room!
Thank you so much.
Thanks so much. And I agree. He would make an excellent interrogator.
My pleasure, thank you for being a leader and not a follower.
That can be really tough in today’s world. ❤
8:45 I never take head-tilting at face-value, because it's the best (though still obvious) way to fake sympathy, empathy, understanding.
And when we use it, specially as the receptor, it motivates the interlocutor to keep talking, and go more in-depth, giving us the information we want.
I always wondered why I would tilt my head a lot. People have taken photos of me and my heads tilted in many of them. I think i do it because I do feel empathy for others, and maybe it's when I'm listening intently that I do it more x
“He was so joyful…” until she sucked that right out of him 🙄
Yeah 😞 at the end this is the thing that breaks my heart the most. Will used to be so joyful and happy, he was a beam of positivity. His whole vibe is entirely different. I don’t know if we can single handedly blame her, I’m sure there’s a lot at play, but it’s hard to believe she wasn’t a contributing factor .
@@TheBehavioralArts He’s certainly not the rapper/FPoBA from my teen years anymore…so sad
I did feel some empathy for her when she was looking at that picture of Tupac & Maxine but I don’t think she was mourning his death, more that she missed an opportunity with him and probably wanted more than ‘friend zone’.
@@TheBehavioralArts She broke him.
I have so much respect for you and your approach to behavioural analysis. This particular video was so interesting to me because, like you, I’m not a huge fan of Jada… but I’m fascinated when I see someone expressing genuine emotions like she did (seeing her vulnerability made her more “human” to me). I appreciate that you don’t let your personal opinions get in the way of sound analysis. It’s what makes your channel one of my favourites (plus you just seem like a really nice person). Thank you so much for always putting out thought-provoking and insightful content.
At the 6:44 minute when she's saying she had emotional intimacy, intellectual intimacy etc with Tupac ... Will mirrored this sentiment towards her in an interview he did with Oprah and to a lesser extent in other interviews. So its very interesting because Will mimics her quite a bit, down to the way they fake laugh where they're laughing but not really, they're actually looking to see if you're buying their bs.
Such a thorough, exceptionally well-communicated analysis. I appreciate your channel so much!
Thank you. This means the world
You really got me with your “arguing from conclusion” I believe you called it. And also the 5 second test-which is very thought provoking. I don’t like Jada, I’m team Will, even quietly team “free Will” & in that I have been gathering evidence to confirm my bias. It was going really well in this video until she genuinely cried & I felt it & teared up & I finally had empathy for the woman & thought man she really misses her friend. And then you said what you said about arguing from conclusion etc & I realized that’s exactly what I have been doing. Happy to see another side of her & open my mind up to more information instead of just more witch hunt. GREAT ANALYSIS! Thanks Spidey.
We can recognize and call out bad behavior, while at the same time recognizing that the person doing the behavior is still a human being with actual thoughts and feelings, too. Yeah, I feel sympathy for Jada for things she's suffered. And at the same time, I still detest her treatment of her husband.
Wow thanks. It’s important to check our biases or just be aware of them. It may not change a thing. We might still see her as a manipulative person and think Will needs to get out of this relationship. At the end of the day it might just be “ok, she had this real moment, but it doesn’t change anything.” But yeah, having a conclusion and not challenging it at all is a very foolish way to proceed imo. I’m glad it gave you something to think about ❤️
@@deantodd8103 yes exactly that. Of course it’s just our perception of how she treats him really. He isn’t coming out and saying all of that.
@@misspickles47 at the end of the day it is his choice. He isn’t saying his life is a living hell however. We are just inferring that. We just don’t know. But I hear you and have many of the same thoughts. Still, my opinion doesn’t make it true.
I completely agree, and well done, you!! I can admit when I'm putting my emotional opinion before fact, based on biases, sometimes. I'm grateful I can usually recognize those moments, and correct myself based on what the person's truth is, and not be lazy, by just relying on my biased opinions.
...the video of your appearence at the iconic "APOLLO" is fabulous---You owned that aisle as you walked up it...and Steve! owned the stage as he stepped! out...😮😊
Thanks 😊 glad you enjoyed it
I wonder why Jada seemingly felt forced to end up with/marry Will when she clearly wasn't impressed by him at all. She said herself that she could have "any" man she wanted so why "settle" for Will ?????
That ambition of “from the hood to the White House “ and because Will Smith said he wanted to “take over the world” would be my guess…..she wanted the power, influence and money 💰 she knew he’d earn. Plus let’s be honest….she couldn’t get anyone she wanted .. she knows that but is trying to fool everybody else.
I’ve wondered that as well- as she speaks about crying and not wanting to get married to him. So why …
I don't believe she EVER "felt forced", she's a NARCISSIST! EVERYTHING she does is calculated! Will is her victim.
@@jeaniebird999Yeap ❤
Perhaps she wanted to ride on his coat-tails. She said she admired Will's ambition and confidence "from the hood to the White House" - she was envious of that. But the envy seems to have curdled into jealousy and resentment.
First and foremost! So happy you called Steven "a great interviewer". You two are my top creators. Never thought I'll see you in one space (albeit on UA-cam) my soul is happy 😊
My mom is a pathological liar too. She's always been living in her fantasy world. I remember when she talked about her past relationships and that she made THEM break up with her so that they can get a nicer closure because they're not the dumped ones...😒 At the time, I believed every single word she said. But later on, when I was old enough I just realized she was only 17 when she gave birth to my brother. A 17-year-old young girl. What past relationships?? What love games?? She was just a teenager with probably 0 to 1 experience, but in her mind she was sooo mature and an expert on relationships. She was literally a kid. I feel the same way with Jada. She's talking about Tupac like they had a 10-year- long relationship or something.... It was 27 years ago, there's nothing to talk about. It was nothing...All in her head.
Yes, my mother as well. She was a narcissist who was an expert on everything but had no education in any field.
Jada was in a couple of Tupacs early music videos (Keep Ya Head Up). When she was on a TV show (A Different World) he guest starred. They spoke of eachother in interviews. They were very close, loyal friends. Whatever we don't like about her, I don't understand why people think what she says about their friendship is false.
@@mojadah10 I must admit, it's because I have watched Tupac fans who knew his life story debunk how the Rykers visit could not have happened according to her timeline (maybe she misremembered some dates?)... anyway, I can see how she has real deep feelings fo Tupac and they had real connection at one time. So there's that. But Jada embellishes her tales and memories and is so unreliable one just takes anything she says with a grain of salt. I am not saying her friendship is false, though. But like most commenters here, I understand how it can be more romantic to sanitize and glorify a dead man's memory than to live with real people in the real world.
@@ongjanettejust like Spidey said 👏🏻
@@mojadah10 I don't question their friendship, I'm sure it wasn't fake. But romanticizing a friendship over your own marriage for decades is just a major red flag to me. She openly chooses Tupac over her husband over and over again and acts like it was a forced marriage. Maybe it was in a way, I don't know. But she could have millions chances to divorce. Yet, she chooses to b*tch about Will all the time, meanwhile talking abour Tupac like he was a god.
Glad I watched this and glad that the interviewer left that emotion in the Final Cut. Thanks for your analysis
I always love how these videos feel like brain breaks. With all the empty content in UA-cam these days I always feel so good knowing I’ve learned something every Saturday morning 😂 you’re the best spidey
Danke! Thank you! ❤
I've watched a lot of other behavioral analysis videos and yours are by far the best. Very thoughtful and insightful. Keep up the great work.
We react to how ppl make us feel. I don't know the in's and out's of her and Will's relationship but she makes me feel that something isn't right. If genuine love isn't there, it's time to let the relationship go.
I’m SO DISTRACTED by the Prada on your shirt….its almost glowing…..
Excellent analysis! She clearly isn’t the love or partner Will thinks or thought she was/is….. He could do so much better. She’s no prize.
😂😂😂 SAME!
I’m just going to fan-girl here for a bit one of my favourite channels analyzing an interview done by another favourite channel!! I know this was an analysis of JPS but honestly I’m excited to hear you talk about Steven and his great interviewing skills. I love how I’m learning so much from both of you and this crossover just made my day 💛🤩.
Imagine having your life and reputation destroyed by someone you're married to who doesn't even remotely care about you and is currently head over heels in love with someone who's been dead for over 27 years. And to add insult to injury goes on to write books and do interviews further denigrating you in front of the entire world.
How heartbreaking it must have been for him to learn that not only his wife preferred another man, but that his daughter also preferred another father. All thanks to the mother's unceasing, highly-public whining.
And have kids with that person. She is so hurtful to not just him, but the children as well. Shame on her
This was a good place to stop, and so very true. People don't understand how destructive anger, hate, any negative emotion is really bad for you to hold on to. Even the minor ones like disgust and disrespect. Life is way to short. Thank you for explaining things we might have missed. It is enjoyable always to see if I have it right or not just going on my experience, and visceral feelings. Hope this finds you happy and healthy my friend. See you next time
Spidey, i love how you educate us...learning about smiles and your examples. Ive been in the people biz since the late '80s... ive always taken on people's "stuff"...when i got into my career, i would come home absolutely drained. Being able to read people's energy is a blessing and a curse. Im SO glad i found you!! You're one of my faves!
This is my take on Jaida: she is the kind of narcissist that is scary. To me, she's also a sociopath. I feel so bad for Will and her children. She's got Will totally hypnotized to her "religion". If he ever leaves her, he'll need so much unbrainwashing therapy. I know that sounds harsh...but..🤷🏼♀️
I’m so glad I found your channel. Ever since the show ‘Lie to me’ I’ve been obsessed with micro expressions. Completely fascinated with your field of expertise!!
I love this channel, thank you Spidey!
I think I can speak on long term grief. My dad passed suddenly 2 weeks before my 14th birthday (just to give an idea of where I was at in my mental and emotional development) and it actually stunted my emotional growth for a few years. No one will ever take my dad’s place, he was and still is my dad. I’m 25 now and i still feel that way. Yes I have other strong male figures in my life, but no one will ever be my dad again.
My mom has dated since my dad’s passing but she still considers herself married since they never fell out of love, and in her words she had a perfect marriage why would she mess with a perfect record. She had to tell her ex’s that they need to stop comparing themselves to my dad because they were in love when he died. She never stopped loving him and he never stopped loving her. It was an accident. It’s hard to be with someone whose greatest love died suddenly, you think about the living differently than you do the dead. The dead can’t do anything it’s only the memories, someone who is living can annoy you and irritate you one moment and make you happy the next.
It’s hard to think about the hardships with my dad, I was a teenage girl with overwhelming anxiety who was being bullied at school. I wasn’t the prefect daughter and there are no more next times. I didn’t say I loved my dad the night before he passed and I now refuse to go to bed before saying it to my loved ones. Grief changes you, and it impacts you in ways you don’t even think about, I still struggle to think about that last night I saw my dad, because I can’t go back and say the things I would now.
But I can tell you my dad was annoying, I love him so much but he was an utter dork and would do things to embarrass his teenage daughter and that very much included talking in his hyper thick québécois English accent to my friends who tried so hard to understand him, he would call out very loudly that he loved me when he would drop me off or he would just be a dad. I can think about that now but I don’t think about it like I did back then. I’m not annoyed at my dad right now. I just miss him and love him. Again it’s that grief you cant be annoyed at someone who hasn’t annoyed you in years because they just aren’t there but I can currently be annoyed at my cat who made me walk around the house just to brush him because he can’t sit still.
It was a very moving moment when Jada was emotional about seeing Tupac for the last time, very well done thank you
Thank you for trying to stay objective! It’s very rare and valuable in our time!!! You are doing a great job 👏
There is something about how Jada talks about Will. It almost like he is lucky to have her, keeping Will insecure and off balance.
You have a very good point on this. I have not watched the interview. And to see her break down truly feels human, real, and honest. I don't care for her very much, however I am not going to think she has no pain in her heart. We are all human. It's good to see it when we can. Well put Spidey.
I can't be the only person who'd love for Spidy to be a fly on the wall while we had conversations with different people in our lives 🤩 STUDY ME! 😂
7:30 nobody could ever hold a candle to Tupac because not only was he beautiful on the outside but he was deep on the inside and he seemed exactly as she portrayed him. What a devastating loss that must have been for her. But as an adult she had an obligation to treat her husband well and I don't think she did. That's on her. If you can't make a marriage with Will Smith work passably, you got issues 😆
Oh yeah, Tupac was a wonderful soul... in jail for rape. Yeah, a golden child.
@@Victoria-gq8gthe didn’t even rape the girl but for y’all to go off what the news tell y’all I see why he wanted to leave this earth
Who. Who says this about their ex while they are still with a current partner? That’s a mean thing to do. She’s mean and horrible. And she screws her sons friend! This woman needs to be called out and shut up
Can’t stand the woman and Tupac isn’t her ex, they were not a couple, they were friends. She is speaking about a good friend she lost tragically.
I agree!! Right???? She says that 500 times. Right?
Tupac is not her ex. Really not sure what kind of hang up she has for this man.
💯!!! My sons are in their early 20s. I absolutely adore their closest friends. The thought of gettin it on with one of them genuinely makes me wanna retch. I love their friends in a motherly way. NOT in a sexual let’s get down kinda way.
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So glad you did this interview. It's the only one I've watched entirely and thought was really interesting in terms of body language. Can't wait to watch it!
That’s a very cruel thing to keep saying about her marriage to Will in public over and over, that she really didn’t want to be with him. That’s what strikes me about Jada..she is exceptionally cruel to Will Smith. He’s not blameless, but I think she delights in seeing him hurt. Will is depressed. He’s beaten down. It’s a different form of a classic abusive marriage, only society assigns more shame to the man when he’s the one that is psychologically abused. Burns me up. Will made a HUGE mistake at the Oscars, and he’s paying for it as he should, but Jada was the entire catalyst for what happened. I think it delighted her, what happened, with no thought given to just how much it hurt Will’s career, reputation, his heart, and even his relationships with his professional peers, including Chris Rock and his family. Jada doesn’t appear to care. Either that or she’s just completely self-absorbed and doesn’t see how she comes off.
Reasons why I love Spidey…
Being honest and transperant 🙏🏼👏🏼🙏🏼
You do a great job Spidey. We are all at variable levels responsible for bias.
I love that you try so hard to be impartial. You do so good Spidey!
Thank you for keeping your videos completely objective, it absolutely helps me to see the actual behaviors you are assessing vs coming at it from a biased angle like you mentioned. I stopped following another UA-cam channel personality that solely focused on the negative about certain celebrities and wasn’t all that great or informative. It simply just fueled the “hate them” fire, which I disagree with. Thanks for doing such an amazing job analyzing behaviors and explaining it to your audience. Learning so much from you!
I loved the color analyses - thank you.
My mother was both a sociopath and a narcissist, so I am sensitive to people who display reminders of her. Jada grates on my nerves. I hope Will wakes up and frees himself.
I think the cost is too high for him.
He deserves so much more. My heart goes out to him
Spidey, I really appreciated what you said about arguing from a conclusion. You made me want to share this video with everyone I know that does that. So well said.
I believe we are in desperate need for more nuance. It's why I love your channel. Keep doing what you do ❤
Finally, someone covering THIS interview. Thank you Spidey. Stephen is an incredible interviewer, it truly feels like he learns a little from each interview and improves his technique. Jada is a piece of work, Poor Will. ❤️🖖🏼
The way she talks about their "intellectual" connection, and how intelligent Will is as well, it's giving me strong "I'm such a deep thinker, I need someone who can keep up and stimulate me intellectually" vibes. A lot of times the people who emphasise how attracted they are to someone's InTeLlEcT (🙄) are just trying to seem smart themselves. Just as with the "he was brave enough to walk up to ME", she's complimenting herself by complimenting someone else. I'll have to pay attention to that specifically, but I have a feeling that she tends to subtly (or not so subtly) put herself on some kind of pedestal. Like a more subliminal way of humblebragging?
Sorry, english is not my first language so I had to improvise in some places to circumscribe what I meant 😅
Ugh, yes, my sister who is a bona fide narc is exactly like this and it is so cringe to watch because they don't even realize that is how it comes off. Just makes you want to roll your eyes and then laugh
Its very interesting that these people are the ones who receive deep love and admiration while people who are truely humble and sweet get walked over. Society definitely accepts narc behavior than genuine behavior. So either way shes more likable
You should have known how to select a man like the one that you wanted, then you would not have to DREAM ❤
I love your positivity, how you try and remain objective. You definitely lead by example thank you for you insight and lessons. I find body language fascinating and challenging. Take Care, Best Wishes for all.
Someone on tiktok debunked her visit to Rikers, saying Tupac was married during the time she claimed he proposed to her, apparently the timeline doesn’t match. Video went viral and this was before this interview.
You teach me something new every time brother TY! Stoked for the next one as always!
I can't imagine wasting almost 30 years of my life on a dead man who didn't love me like that.
Let's not forget that Jada's obsession with Tupac is one sided. He friend zoned her & married his actual girlfriend right after he got out of Rikers. Jada was hanging out in LA with Will.... probably trying to make Tupac jealous since it's that girlfriend that he asked to marry him right before he went to Rikers for 30 days, not Jada.
I love your 5 second explanation!!! Brilliant!
I thought the “like breaking up with a boyfriend” meant “he obviously had not had sufficient time to process the end of that marriage when he called me to begin dating, and so he brought (and I naively let him bring) unresolved issues into our relationship right at its foundation. And these issues have played themselves out throughout our time together.”
I eagerly await your co-LIve with Rob/LawLumber tonight ~ 28OCT23 ~ (I recall Rob said 6p ET during last night's stream). Your explanation of "arguing from a conclusion" already helped me comprehend why I was having trouble understanding one witness's behavior and testimony. Thanks, Spidey; see you again at 6p ET.
Thank you Spidey, for sharing your thoughts and insights. I appreciate your compassion and critical thinking. Jada wrote that in her earlier life she never wanted to appear vulnerable so you’re right about that. Before Tupac died, he and Jada had an argument and never made up. She met him in high school when he was dirt poor (with barely any clothing) so she bought him clothes and devised ways to give them to him in such a way that allowed him to accept her gifts without embarrassment. Later, when she needed help he was there for her, so they formed a huge bond. Her comment about how we wouldn’t care about some beefs etc. we have on our deathbed helped me too. I doubt if a narcissist would have the ability to be such a deep thinker.
Your background makes you a well-rounded analyst that brings some additional skills to the whole method of BLA. Love it!
The details she remembers about Tupac! and he can't refute them now, right.
You have a specific gift for accessing your clinical training to bring out the humanity in us all. I hope your message - not just regarding Jada - travels far and wide. Thank you.
I honestly feel like that whole alopecia thing was a connection she was having with Pac and a indirect message to Will..it's deep..
Spidey your ending was beautiful too. Shoutout for those reminders
Another great analysis, Spidey. The last clip says to me she feels she will be thinking about Tupac on her deathbed or that was something she told Will regarding their relationship and his ambition which seems to be too big for her. When she says he didn't seem "deep" enough in the beginning. That's just because he was youthfully joyful while she had lived all that deep unhappy emotion with Tupac which seemed to her the sense of living and shook her to the core. Also, the emotion she feels when she talks about visiting him in jail. It seems to me she feels guilty about leaving him there in such a state and going for something better with Will. She decided to go for the material wealth she felt she could have with Will but at the same time she started hating him for having all the success also because he had it without much of her help and that didn't provide her with the feeling of importance which potentially drove her to her depression and suicidal thoughts around the age of 40.
Thank you, Spidey! Your encouragement to look at both sides without judgements but with curiosity is a beautiful life challenge. Many blessings.🙏
Hey Spidey, thank you for this video and for always reminding us to be kind. I went from being a fan of Jada to not liking a lot of the stuff she's done but one thing I feel we cannot deny is that what she felt there was real grief. Tupac is the one that got away for her, she's looking back fondly at the memories while I feel that with Will the reason she doesn't do that is because he's still alive and well.
We as human tend to suddenly romanticizes those that have passed away, there is no negative points or flaw, maybe that's why we say "Don't speak ill of the dead." I felt sympathy for her and appreciated the fact that the interviewer held space by hugging her and in a way blocking her from the camera so that she could have her moment to grief for what she's lost.
She can mourn the life she never had with Tupac, but that’s no reason to disrespect and abuse anyone else who tries to love her.
Spidey, I haven’t been here for awhile. Your eyebrows look great and so does your hair
Her divorcing Will would be the death of an ideal about herself. Jada is your ride or die. Jada can fix it. Jada is in control. Jada is significant.
Thank you for this beautiful analysis. You are so good at your craft. Keep elevating.
Your videos never disappoint!!! Learning so much from you! ❤
This particular interview presented me with a totally different perspective of Jada Pinkett Smith and after viewing I felt that she displayed vulnerability that I haven’t seen in previous interviews. Lots of healing is needed in this family. I hope they are able to find it. So glad that you analyzed it because it offers me a chance to check my own bias and lack of knowledge regarding other folks experiences. I’m still not interested in buying the book.
I don't even think she is feeling the feelings she's pretending to feel. I think she's just so narcissistic that she can only think about herself and how she's coming across to others
I haven't watched this video yet, but I did just finish the Dear Mama documentary because I didn't know that much about Tupac - there was no mention about Jada being a significant person in Tupac's life. So I don't really know exactly what their relationship was other that what Jada says.
But speaking of very interesting body language and use of voice and facial expressions, Tupac would be a really good one to study especially in chronological order. I saw his demeanor change from youth to early adulthood pretty drastically (at least in that documentary) almost to where he seemed like 2 totally different people and i have 3 theories as to why. I'd be curious to see your take! Thanks for the videos!!
Hey Spidey, loving those little curls in your hair 🥰 Jada's face lights up whenever she mentions Tupac in the same way I'm sure your partner lights up to your cute curls 🤩 Only 50 k more subscribers to reach the big M, looking forward to the celebration! Thanks for all the great content, we learn so much together 🥰
When she teared up I did too! And I’m wary of her but that was so real! This was a great video, loved it!
Another excellent, objective analysis! Ever since I started watching your videos I find that I look for behavioral cues when I interview candidates for positions and when I'm in meetings with my coworkers! Oh boy....what a new perspective on company meetings!!!🤣
Hahaha I love it. So glad you’re finding real world use for what we discuss 😊
I dealt with a former celebrity/pro athlete, now has-been, and could compare what you wrote with what I saw in their behavior. They’re delusional and narcissistic. The abuse was off the charts. These people have better social skills to manipulate others because they often have to shift their “vibration” from feeling any shame from their behavior and pathetic lies to match the audience their trying to capture, where the rest of us internalize things, work to be better humans to avoid the “house of cards” disaster when the truth is revealed.
Imagine a timeline where Tupac was still alive, was married to Jada, and she was his Yoko Ono. Over the last 30 years, she's broken him down and sent him down a path similar to Will.
Right???? I can see it,or he’d have her eliminated. right?
I think one of the reasons she liked him is because she couldn't do that.
It asks a lot to imagine a timeline like that. However Tupac has a far different spirit compared to Will. Tupac would never submit to her foolishness. This is why she favors the past - Tupac isn’t around to check her.
Tupac saw right through her, and married someone he loved... he moved on, before he was murdered 🙏💝💛
I don’t think he would have chosen her. I think he knew something was off. He kept her in the friend zone for a reason. He was engaged to someone else. I think He could have had Jada if he wanted her.
Such a big fan of you and Dairy of a ceo. And I often find myself putting to use your great advise while watching his interviews. So cool to see you agree about his skillset.
Oh boy! Here we go!
Great job Spidey! I always learn so much from you. Not just from a behavior aspect, but I also love how you don’t get persuaded by the “mob mentality” that so many get sucked into.
One point about the interview that I find interesting is the way she contrasted the beginning of her relationship with Tupac vs Will. I could say a lot about it, but basically they both approached her boldly. With one she presented it as an example of who he was as a person, how unique and special he was, and with the other it was a strategy that got her interested in him, but it didn't necessarily correlate with impressive character. It comes off like she's saying that Tupac's boldness was more real, more genuine, more innate to his personality than Will's plain old Hollywood hubris.
You were right on the call to talk about the likely real sadness expression. I feel you are right. She literally couldn't keep speaking. I have felt this myself.
She really seems to hate Will. 0 repsect - his clean nice guy personna is not for her. She seems so disgusted when she talka abput Will.
I really love how you throw out analogies to help us understand your point. Case in point, look around the room you are in for RED items...how many GREEN items did you see. Perfectly stated to help understand what you mean. I so appreciate that. I really enjoy your content. Thank you for your work.
When Jada starts crying when she sees the photo, I also feel it's genuine, but the reason for these emotions doesn't have to have anything to do with the people in the picture. Maybe she remembers the time and it was all so exciting back then and she was young and her life path was still open... because I find it strange that she puts the photo on the table so quickly with one quick movement. When I see loved ones in a photo, I cherish that photo, that piece of paper. I have the feeling that at that moment she is mourning something else and that she is bitter.
Can you place a number on the video where she did that?
@@van5135 32:09 I mean maybe she´s doing it in this manner because she´s not feeling very comfortable. But it is an interesting gesture.
what??
As always. . . . Excellent analysis!
Hi Spidey! I just wanted to tell you I absolutely love your channel. I learn so much! I love how open minded you are with your content as well. I also have watched Stephen on Diary of a CEO as well; he is fantastic! I truly believe when he presented that photo to Jada she was genuine in her reaction. For him to get down and hug her; I think he could tell she was being real. Had she been fake or pretending I don't think Stephen would have bent down to hug her. I don't judge either. I think we all make mistakes and learn from them. I think when you grow up neglected by both Parents and witness things you should not as a child, it creates trauma and you become hyper vigilant. I think Jada didn't feel safe growing up. She didn't know if she would make it day to day or if her Parents would. So I think with Tupac she did love him and he provided her with this love, protection and stability she didn't get from her youth. It is a terrible feeling to not be able to trust and feel happiness in any moment because you are so used to chaos and disorder. You almost become numb to the good and expect only the bad. I think that is because when we intake good it makes us vulnerable and we let our guard down. So keeping your guard up protects you but you also don't let people in. I know this all too well! I had to unlearn what I learned by watching my incompetent Parents. Thank God for Cognitive behavioral therapy! If not I would have never learned to self regulate my emotions and stayed blinded by horrible cognitive distortions. Circling back to Jada, I truly think she will need to be in a relationship that provides a very high level of security and protection. I think that is why Will hit Chris Rick. I am sure Jada probably has said to him, well Tupac would have had my back. She needs a man that will have her back bc growing up no one did. It's one of the very reasons I have been married to my husband of 30 years. I never felt safe as a child or teen. But when I met my husband in high school I did. He was kind, assertive and very protective. I needed that to help me learn to trust and believe that people are good. Thank you Spidey!! I look forward to watching you and Rob tonight! God bless!😊
Not trying to say anything bad when I say this, but I think Stephen (Diary of a CEO) hugged her not only because she was being real, but he also was aware of the position he put her in. That picture isn't just a pic of her last time with Tupac...the other woman in the photo (her good friend Maxine) took her own life not too long after as well. It's hard to present that photo to someone unexpectedly and it not be triggering, and Stephene mentioned Maxine's name so he was aware. Not to argue whether he should have showed the photo or not, but he seems like a solid dude, so I wouldn't be surprised if he felt some sense of personal responsibility to be sensitive to Jada's state in that moment in addition to empathy for the pain itself.