Struggling to Improvise over II-V-I's?

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  • Опубліковано 11 гру 2024

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  • @professorsc213
    @professorsc213 2 роки тому +6

    As a guitar teacher of 42 years, kudos to you. You are a great teacher. You speak clearly and concise and you have a very non intimidating way about you. That is a gift. Your students are lucky to have you.

    • @RichieZellon
      @RichieZellon  2 роки тому

      Thank you kindly Scott, much appreciated!

    • @RobertVeasquez
      @RobertVeasquez 2 роки тому

      Clearly, how whole demeanor invites you in and welcomes you.

  • @onehere9065
    @onehere9065 4 роки тому +35

    giving a thumbs down on any of this man's videos is an unspeakable act.

  • @tenbroeck1958
    @tenbroeck1958 Рік тому

    Your lessons and the parts 1 and 2 B ebop guitar books are finally helping me break away from memorizing licks, to understanding chord tones, guide tones, etc. This is a fundamental lesson here.

  • @ddanze
    @ddanze 4 роки тому +8

    Excellent. The best and clearest explanation I"ve heard yet of looking at jazz this way.

  • @diego2246
    @diego2246 4 роки тому +8

    Great lesson from an outstanding teacher!

  • @jmkt7
    @jmkt7 4 роки тому +10

    I love when you delve into theory. Your approach and teaching methods have improved incredibly. Clear, succinct and the diagrams are a great tool. Thank you.

    • @RichieZellon
      @RichieZellon  4 роки тому +2

      Thanks for your feedback John, it is much appreciated!

  • @PeterGuyMyrand1
    @PeterGuyMyrand1 2 роки тому

    Excellent breakdown, explanation on giant steps.

  • @Morganstudios
    @Morganstudios Рік тому

    Thanks for the lesson! Btw in classical theory a "perfect cadence" means the bass plays the roots of both the V and I chords and the top voice plays(or sings) the tonic over the I chord.

  • @jcspaziano
    @jcspaziano 3 роки тому

    Gosh...where the heck was this when I was a metal kid in Jazz Music school?! Thanks and great playing too!

  • @jayspicer2259
    @jayspicer2259 4 роки тому +6

    Whoa. I had to go and test this out for myself over an Autumn Leaves backing track. One question: WHY DID NOBODY EXPLAIN THIS TO ME BEFORE? I feel like this is a top ten beginner/intermediate tip. Thank you!!

    • @RichieZellon
      @RichieZellon  4 роки тому

      You're very welcome...glad to be of help!

  • @robertcorel5161
    @robertcorel5161 4 роки тому +1

    Pure gold! Thank you, sir.

  • @proequipments7210
    @proequipments7210 3 роки тому

    a perfect story teller

  • @kulahit50
    @kulahit50 3 роки тому

    Thanks for clearing this up for me

  • @russelllloyd6453
    @russelllloyd6453 Рік тому

    Superb! Very helpful. As well as the best explanation of this subject I’ve heard, your excellent playing exemplifies everything. The historic preamble is important too. Thank you.

  • @skale1963
    @skale1963 2 роки тому

    👍🏻 Helpful and immediately applicable. By thinking only V7, I found I got a more "jazzy/blues" sound, and also gave me "more space" to develop longer melodic lines as opposed to shorter phrases when I try to outline over two chords.

  • @RobertVeasquez
    @RobertVeasquez 2 роки тому

    You are an excellent instructor. I envy those who have studied directly from you!

  • @randolphcohen6522
    @randolphcohen6522 4 роки тому +2

    Another superb lesson with great examples and demonstrations. Thanks Richie!

  • @dkwvt13
    @dkwvt13 4 роки тому +2

    Very interesting. Most tutorials are going the other direction, its nice to see how to occasionally get OUT of the deep end...! ;-). Thank You!

  • @jumemowery9434
    @jumemowery9434 4 роки тому +2

    Loved the lesson. Thanks for stretching me Richie!

  • @matthewbrenes699
    @matthewbrenes699 4 роки тому +1

    Love your lessons. You say more than,”put your fingers here and listen to this.” You teach how music works, when you understand how this works, then you can really taking you musicianship to the next level. I’m a bass player learning to play guitar, I’m having to relearn how to play all the standards I have already learned, and your videos are helping me a lot.

    • @RichieZellon
      @RichieZellon  4 роки тому

      Thanks Matthew, glad to be of help and above all happy to hear that unlike many out there, you understand that to play jazz it takes more than just being told to place your fingers in a certain place and produce a sound! :)

  • @waynerice2484
    @waynerice2484 Рік тому

    Great lesson & well presented! Thank-you.

  • @Flavio0567
    @Flavio0567 Рік тому

    Great lesson 🎉🎉🎉

  • @jeffreyamado8027
    @jeffreyamado8027 2 роки тому

    A great lesson, truly. You presented this so clearly. Joe Pass, in his instructional videos says this same thing-that he thinks of the V7 and ignores the II chord.

  • @ferfrant4425
    @ferfrant4425 4 роки тому +2

    My first time here. Great stuff, first video and I left learning something new. Subscribed!

  • @danolivier4899
    @danolivier4899 4 роки тому +1

    I really like your energy man, it makes it so much easier to learn

  • @timdouglas620
    @timdouglas620 Рік тому

    This is when theory makes sense! Thank you.

  • @arvh1952
    @arvh1952 4 роки тому

    genius... was awesome to meet u in Florida in WOLFES during ur lecture demonstration...wish I had jammed with u on Stella but was too nervous. thanks for uR books.

    • @RichieZellon
      @RichieZellon  4 роки тому

      Thanks, you should have jammed with us! Next time...enjoy the books!

  • @williammorson1535
    @williammorson1535 3 роки тому

    Very helpful. Thankyou. Very well explained it makes perfect sense.
    I am a student of the bass and find difficulty with the 251.

  • @robertdouglas4293
    @robertdouglas4293 2 роки тому

    Kinda cool Man, from the 60s, nice.

  • @mariussolbakken5043
    @mariussolbakken5043 4 роки тому +1

    Great video, Richie! Very nice tip indeed:)

  • @preacherjayk
    @preacherjayk 4 роки тому +2

    Great lesson , Thanks,

  • @iloverumi
    @iloverumi 4 роки тому +1

    amazing lesson and understanding of jazz! very impressive.

  • @kasramoghaddam1389
    @kasramoghaddam1389 4 роки тому +1

    Thanks for the lesson!

  • @alto1955
    @alto1955 3 роки тому

    Thanks it makes a lot of sense.

  • @young0804
    @young0804 4 роки тому +2

    Muy buena clase estás dando maestro. Un abrazo

  • @chrisshipp7514
    @chrisshipp7514 4 роки тому

    Great information, Richie! Eye-opening!

    • @RichieZellon
      @RichieZellon  4 роки тому

      Thanks Chris, glad it was helpful!

  • @BlueSkies32
    @BlueSkies32 4 роки тому

    Thank you Richie, that was helpful!

  • @charliebarredafriends61
    @charliebarredafriends61 2 роки тому

    Good job Richie thumbs up! very good way to put it and simplify what is the art of improvisation - reminds me of my first Vibes teacher John Rae, recommended to me by Cal Tjader who wasn't taking on students (too busy touring) back in the early 80's. John would make me analyze Jazz tunes to see first what key and where is the harmony movement taking you.

  • @williamstanford7994
    @williamstanford7994 4 роки тому +1

    Dynamite, Richie! Just dynamite!

    • @RichieZellon
      @RichieZellon  4 роки тому +1

      Thanks William, glad you enjoyed it!

  • @alarichzollerjazzguitar8948
    @alarichzollerjazzguitar8948 4 роки тому

    Very helpful, great explanations, thanks

  • @zeynelkilinc
    @zeynelkilinc 4 роки тому +1

    thank you great man

  • @larsfocken3456
    @larsfocken3456 3 роки тому

    You can do this also with some more advanced stuff. E.g. if you raise die 7th of the II Chord in a II-V-I you get melodic minor. Now when the chord changes to the V7 you get lydian b7 automatically.

  • @danielt1985
    @danielt1985 4 роки тому

    Great vid dude never stop

  • @Jamestele1
    @Jamestele1 2 роки тому

    This is an awesome lesson sir. Should be required viewing for graduate Jazz Guitar studies (maybe it is!). I love it

  • @DizzyKrissi
    @DizzyKrissi 4 роки тому +1

    well explained.

  • @Artsssssss
    @Artsssssss 3 роки тому

    maaan, you are king

  • @frankking7687
    @frankking7687 4 роки тому +3

    Good stuff! Thanks. Wondering about how to handle all the quick, half measure descending ii-V7s in jazz tunes (like "4 on 6") that leave out the Is?

  • @jazzguitarneophyte-christo7988
    @jazzguitarneophyte-christo7988 4 роки тому

    The four idiots who gave this a thumbs down are just ignorant folks. I am taking Richie Zellon's Bebop Improv course and he does a phenomenal job as a teacher!

  • @luisalejandrodonatirobles660
    @luisalejandrodonatirobles660 4 роки тому +1

    Hola maestro ritchie, porque no hace sus tutoriales también en español? Un abrazo!

    • @RichieZellon
      @RichieZellon  4 роки тому +1

      La verdad es que lo hice con sub-titulos hace un tiempo pero no tuvo mucha acogida y no me justifico la inversión de tiempo y $. Ojala que en un futuro haya mas interes...Gracias!

  • @raquelchicajazz121
    @raquelchicajazz121 Рік тому

    Swing era barely had an major 7ths, and crazy extentions. An example is all of me, using a Cmajor7 doesnt sound nearly as good as C6. What's cool is that some of the swing composers (duke ellington) can easily be harmonized with modern jazz/bop harmony

  • @bones8057
    @bones8057 3 роки тому

    What is the theory of the Cm scale over the G7 chord. Sounds cool. Thanks

  • @ozwzrd
    @ozwzrd 4 роки тому +3

    Mister Can-do!

  • @vspaulding1
    @vspaulding1 4 роки тому

    Nice:)

  • @delarkaBCN
    @delarkaBCN 3 роки тому

    came for the progression, stayed for the cool hat.

    • @delarkaBCN
      @delarkaBCN 3 роки тому

      it was really useful, btw

  • @tlbtwanger
    @tlbtwanger 4 роки тому

    Maestro Zellon, would that I could always study at your feet. Namaste

  • @ismaeltonet
    @ismaeltonet 4 роки тому +1

    Hello Richie, qual é o modo que vc usou no V quando fez a demonstracão sobre o Autumn Leaves? Foi o Mixolídio?

  • @aadityakiran_s
    @aadityakiran_s 4 роки тому

    Pretty great videos but can you make some videos on how to get there? How to get to a level of mastery with the fretboard and with your ear such that you can get to play all these? How to get there? It seems like it's an uphill battle. Just hours and hours of singing G A B C D E F# G in several orders all over the neck all the while mentally mapping the freborad with each note. So like if you can make a series on that. It would be really helpful. I've been playing guitar for 2 years now and I don't really know how to get there even. How people attain such a mastery of the fretboard to get to play things like this. Improvise over the changes so quickly.

    • @RichieZellon
      @RichieZellon  4 роки тому +1

      Sorry but in all honesty, no single video is going to teach you that and you are not going to attain that after playing guitar for 2 years. You need a good teacher to help you understand the finer details. Also knowing where all the notes are on the fretboard isn't going to make you a great player. You need to understand jazz harmony and other aspects.

    • @aadityakiran_s
      @aadityakiran_s 4 роки тому

      @@RichieZellon Hmm.... That's a good point but I'm from India and good teachers are not here. There are great classical musicians but western especially jazz musicians there aren't many of. And since I'm in india, paying $100 per hour for lessons also won't make much economic sense. Isn't there any way to get there on my own like the way Wes Montgomery did? I'll try to find a teacher. The thing is, good musicians don't teach here. Maybe the pandemic has changed that, I'll have to see. But please do give me some ponters if you can. Also a video series on how to get there step by step would be greatly appreciated. Even if it's paid I shall buy it. Thanks for the great work. Also can you explain a reasonable timeline to get to a good level of jazz playing highlighting some milestones on the way?

  • @RaffaeleSansone
    @RaffaeleSansone 4 роки тому +1

    One thing that I hear a lot is that a chord can "function" as another, but it's really an abstract concept to grasp since they actually sound different. Could you explain that?

    • @RichieZellon
      @RichieZellon  4 роки тому +1

      In a few words, some chords have the same essential notes as a the one they are replacing. For instance, in the key of C, a Cmaj can be substituted for an Emin or Amin. Even though they will sound different, both will continue to work in place of the Cmaj in the original progression as well as retain the identity of the tonality. Sorry if it's not easy to understand without getting deeper into a breakdown of the theory!

    • @RaffaeleSansone
      @RaffaeleSansone 4 роки тому +1

      @@RichieZellon oh so I think I got it, if you take Dm7 and Fmaj7 they overlap almost perfectly, leaving out only the root of Dm7 and the 7th of Fmaj7. So by that reasoning you could choose also an Am7 in place of the 4th (VI V I) to have a similar effect?

    • @joshuamarks1129
      @joshuamarks1129 4 роки тому +1

      Good question, here's an idea that might offer a different perspective:
      Many chord spellings are almost indistinguishable from one another
      Am7 = D9sus (no root)
      Am9 = D13sus (no root)
      Am11= D13sus/A
      Am6 = D9 (no root)
      Am6/9 = D13 (no root)
      Ao7 = D7(b9) (no root)
      Am7(b5) = D7sus(b9)(no root)
      All of those "ii" Chords could function or ("substitute") as the V going to I (Gmajor)
      Many of them could also be perceived as a substitute for the IV chord as well.

  • @mosesstewart1725
    @mosesstewart1725 4 роки тому +1

    Thanks for the lesson, by the way what guitar are you using?

    • @RichieZellon
      @RichieZellon  4 роки тому +1

      Thanks for watching! In this video I am using a Peerless Jazz City which I have customized with a Lollar humbucker.

  • @noahshue5579
    @noahshue5579 4 роки тому +1

    10:14 I heard the LICC

    • @RichieZellon
      @RichieZellon  4 роки тому

      What is the LICC ???

    • @noahshue5579
      @noahshue5579 4 роки тому

      The Jazz Guitar Channel ua-cam.com/video/krDxhnaKD7Q/v-deo.html

  • @thomasa631
    @thomasa631 4 роки тому

    That's great how about were did you start when improvising over the V7 cord ?

  • @MAP448
    @MAP448 3 роки тому

    Can I use a ii-v-i turnaround to connect any 2 chords I want to connect?

    • @RichieZellon
      @RichieZellon  3 роки тому

      Sorry, I'm not sure I understand what you mean by that.

    • @MAP448
      @MAP448 3 роки тому

      @@RichieZellon can I connect any 2 chords in music using a 2-5-1 turnaround?

    • @RichieZellon
      @RichieZellon  3 роки тому

      Give me an example

    • @MAP448
      @MAP448 3 роки тому

      @@RichieZellon of I'm in G & I wanted to go to A. Could I just use the 2 & the 5 of G to connect to A?

    • @RichieZellon
      @RichieZellon  3 роки тому +1

      @@MAP448 No, you would have to use the II-V of A.

  • @lasdudas9210
    @lasdudas9210 3 роки тому

    My man!!! HAHAAA
    ;)