INSANE Ling Player Gives Me a Hard Time in TEKKEN 8

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  • @K-Wiss
    @K-Wiss  7 місяців тому +28

    Real quick for people who would like to mod my UA-cam chat, could you please reply to this comment (you can leave any message you like, even a little dot) and just turn up to any stream within the next week or so? That would be great, thank you :)

    • @seanguinn
      @seanguinn 7 місяців тому +6

      Hey brotha I’m Sean. I’ll help you out. I’ll tune it next week.

    • @darnell7871
      @darnell7871 7 місяців тому

      I would like to take that offer see you then

    • @Okiji477
      @Okiji477 7 місяців тому

      See ya then brotha

    • @cringetk
      @cringetk 7 місяців тому

      I’ll be there boss 👍

    • @masusisahak1355
      @masusisahak1355 7 місяців тому

      if you’re still in need i gotchu bro

  • @productplacementadz24-73
    @productplacementadz24-73 7 місяців тому +151

    There is nothing in tekken scarier to me than that little chinese girl in the high ranks.

    • @Chameleon_daddi
      @Chameleon_daddi 7 місяців тому +1

      😂😂😂

    • @Alaris_
      @Alaris_ 6 місяців тому +13

      Hm, she is a beautiful woman now, not a little girl

    • @fauzankhairi4502
      @fauzankhairi4502 6 місяців тому +4

      ​@Michael_Lochlann so true, now I'm stuck in tenryu XD

    • @philipsalibo7641
      @philipsalibo7641 6 місяців тому +1

      It’s Nina for me

    • @thatpersoneveryoneknowsbut7533
      @thatpersoneveryoneknowsbut7533 4 місяці тому +1

      ​@fauzankhairi4502 I just Reached Tenryu with her and I'm beating Blue ranks and purple easy now it started rough for me but that practice and studying is paying off swear of course the fact hypnotist is busted helps😂

  • @WickedLC21
    @WickedLC21 6 місяців тому +41

    Ling Xiaoyu is using setups while Hwoarang only know how to spam kicks 😂

    • @Coollegalass
      @Coollegalass 5 місяців тому

      Ling isn’t using set ups she’s using bs she’s disgusting. Hwo u actually need a brain to play with him

    • @izzzy.A
      @izzzy.A 3 місяці тому

      LMFAOAOAOOA

    • @aymanehomail4307
      @aymanehomail4307 3 місяці тому

      For real braindead character

  • @Zeridium
    @Zeridium 7 місяців тому +50

    There's a reason Jin didn't want to get close with xiayou:
    He couldnt - everytime he tried, he'd just whiff. Aop is a biological defect with no known cure.

    • @VillainessAO
      @VillainessAO 6 місяців тому

      Maybe you're just illiterate and don't know how to learn a matchup 😂😂

  • @TheDomBeforeTheStorm
    @TheDomBeforeTheStorm 7 місяців тому +58

    "Mids are a social construct" 😂❤

  • @ADukesJustice
    @ADukesJustice 7 місяців тому +62

    Ling Nation

  • @jasonmontoya4749
    @jasonmontoya4749 6 місяців тому +23

    To hear you complain about ling is a bit rich bro. I’m a Hwoarang main like you, and we know our plus advantages are insane, let ling have her thing don’t ruin other people fun so they don’t go out to ruin ours. Just out play him, matches were competitive.

    • @Meyn.
      @Meyn. 2 місяці тому

      He’s just mad cus bad

  • @08aldrin80
    @08aldrin80 6 місяців тому +11

    This is the reason why i follow this channel. He doesn't only show all the winning gameplays you have, but also share with us the hard staff. It is kinda boring to see streamers only flex their winnings, i appreciate the good and bad and it is perfect. 😊

  • @ceroenblanco
    @ceroenblanco 6 місяців тому +20

    My friend who got me into Tekken when I was like 10y/o was murdered a few yeas ago. The case was never solved. We played together since Tekken 3 until TTT2 but we kept in touch.
    He was main Hwoarang, I'm main Xiaoyu. He was way better than me but I always got away with my Xiaoyu tricks. Man, this got me where it hurts.

    • @euomu
      @euomu 6 місяців тому +6

      Sorry for your loss

    • @CG1337Noob
      @CG1337Noob 6 місяців тому +5

      Stay strong brother

    • @GuitarSlayer136
      @GuitarSlayer136 6 місяців тому +8

      If you picked up his legacy and became a Hwoarang main in T8 it would be like your both fighting.

  • @jontaii152
    @jontaii152 7 місяців тому +26

    As someone who is waiting to be able to afford tekken 8 this makes me want to play her

    • @sambanaay7702
      @sambanaay7702 2 місяці тому

      Same goes for me. Still saving up for PS5 😅

  • @mitchhoying6842
    @mitchhoying6842 6 місяців тому +5

    Wait till you meet Mr.croft, where most of Xiaoyu users are inspired.😂

    • @POP-nm1ix
      @POP-nm1ix 5 місяців тому

      Actually, he did. I remember there was a video where he fought against him in T7

    • @xx-rimi
      @xx-rimi 5 місяців тому +2

      he did and got his *ss whooped :) and ofc cried about it

  • @DemonYokZ
    @DemonYokZ 6 місяців тому +6

    Xiaoyu Aop is sidestep to the right
    And higher rank xiaoyu before they AOP they use ss first
    The command should be d~d+1+2 so xiaoyu can evade some low move to

  • @theojk
    @theojk 7 місяців тому +11

    That wall combo damage (Ling)… yeah That doesn’t look right.

  • @theplaymakerno1
    @theplaymakerno1 7 місяців тому +4

    2:13 your life went into becoming the best in Tekken of all time, and I wish to see you at the top, my friend!

  • @wisdomseeker0142
    @wisdomseeker0142 7 місяців тому +7

    Yeah well she did loose every setup ling nation created since sodams tech in Tekken 6 so she needs to be very threatening. Without her oki she’s not that powerful so they buffed her damage output and mixup potential but who’s to say she won’t get nerfed again. All her hypnotic transitions are in fact interruptible on block.

  • @olasumboope4928
    @olasumboope4928 6 місяців тому +1

    It seems AOP has a subtle SSR in its start up frames. and so does your d3 so they just miss themselves... but you become sooo open

  • @lesbinatural2104
    @lesbinatural2104 6 місяців тому +2

    that ling player got my xiaoyu together with his videos ~ very good fight

  • @VillainessAO
    @VillainessAO 6 місяців тому

    2:00 The sequence after this was sickkkk i would not have killed 😂😂

  • @lokeleenP
    @lokeleenP 7 місяців тому +1

    Me who playing ling and Hwo together learning from Kwiss and Chang this is sweet to watch. Ling is a sweet demon since the dawn of tekken bigger than devil jin😂😂.

  • @dominiclacroix9489
    @dominiclacroix9489 Місяць тому +2

    i think its the problem with hard execution character. You see Xiaoyu is very hard to learn, very time consuming, so many transition, movement etc and on paper, she should be the greatest thing. But why isnt she represented in tournament, why is a mashy Hworang able to beat her? You are better picking a barebone character like Claudio, Dragunov or Shaheen, extra simple execution but works well. Theres no point investing time in hard characters since the reward is not there

    • @geovaniraffaelli4508
      @geovaniraffaelli4508 14 днів тому +2

      100% agreed, the game is very unbalanced in that regard. The most broken character Dragunov is incredibly easy to play

  • @KelLorien
    @KelLorien 6 місяців тому

    You can down jab all of the Hypnotist options after f2,1~b on block (other than maybe the parry?)
    Xiaoyu's only good option to beat down jab there is the launch ender after f2,1, which is unsafe.

  • @FohyaTV
    @FohyaTV 7 місяців тому +3

    Dude I read that title as “head” OML かかかか☠️

    • @K-Wiss
      @K-Wiss  7 місяців тому +2

      I mean.......

    • @iAmNothingness
      @iAmNothingness 6 місяців тому

      ​@@K-Wiss ye come over here

  • @Ghostt_Playz
    @Ghostt_Playz 7 місяців тому +3

    Did you ever play any Blazblue? I’m Top8 Skill level on CF, but I’m struggling a lot coming from it to tekken as it’s 3D not 2D, loving ur content so far as I’ve picked up hwoarang, keep cooking! Also what advice could you give me as a BB vet transferring over if possible, thanks!

    • @aztekenen1
      @aztekenen1 6 місяців тому +1

      Perhaps not from the source you've expected but: learn to use the 3D movement to the fullest, and with clean inputs. its vital. and standing block is the default guard unlike crouch in 2D due to mids hitting crouch. alot of moves and string enders also can be evaded by crouch or sidestep, ALOT. and learn your punishes and combo starters to stay on top.

    • @Ghostt_Playz
      @Ghostt_Playz 6 місяців тому

      @@aztekenen1 yes I’m crouching as 2d habit a lot lol 😂 I appreciate your time and guidance! I just hit red ranks and I’m at my first wall now, so I’m working on my fundamentals and movement much more, thanks bro.

    • @aztekenen1
      @aztekenen1 6 місяців тому

      @@Ghostt_Playz no problem, monkey see monkey do is 90% of the game anyway lol. gotta get beat and learn. luckily, t8 gives you good tools to set up scenarios or even fight in replays with data and advice. use it, its 100% better for learning and we didn't have that for over 20 years lol.
      don't forget to think of why you're doing something or how to create a solution for a scenario either. the difference between intermediate and high level is mostly experience and proper intent.

  • @strawb3rryn1nja
    @strawb3rryn1nja 5 місяців тому

    Those moves looked so familiar. Then I looked at the name and it said Changbxng, and I was like, yup. I'm learning how to play Ling by watching him. lmao

  • @Luchador_tk
    @Luchador_tk 7 місяців тому

    i think giving hwoarang generic d4 from standing would help him alot cuz none of his lows seem to connect when she is in aop

  • @sd-bw8rn
    @sd-bw8rn 5 місяців тому +2

    شاو يو الحب ❤

  • @hoshikuza144
    @hoshikuza144 7 місяців тому +2

    2:14 yea, I've been saying her heat moves are fucked up

  • @theplaymakerno1
    @theplaymakerno1 7 місяців тому

    I do not know whether you will agree with me or not, but Hwo feels like the 'oddball' in Tekken. Ever since his Tekken 3 days, I always felt like he is super different and does not have the tools that most of the more popular tournament characters have, and has very difficult execution. The DF, 3+4 is a welcome addition, as it gives him a very easy to execute move that many Tekken characters have.
    His matchups got worse, I agree, however, he has also become more of a well-rounded character than he has ever been. I use Hwo no longer as a pressure character, I use him as a bleed out character. I just use pokes and slowly annoy the opponent in order to win most matches. His pressure game in this game isn't as useful as it was in T7, because people can just Heat Burst (or whatever the hell it is called), to power crush their way through his pressure.

    • @Counselor-yj8hk
      @Counselor-yj8hk 6 місяців тому +1

      No its true. Hwoarang in Tekken is the oddball character. He is a stance character with no actual gimmick to his stance. Usually, when a tekken character is heavily stance based, their stances usually have movement or attacks that flat out ignore established norms in tekken. Xiaoyu with her AOP stance goes under everything. The capos (eddy, christie, tiger) have relax stance and handstand. Zafina and her crazy stances. etc.
      But Hwoarang? His stances (both flamingo, and RFF) does jack. From what i understand, hwo's flamingo stance was SUPPOSED to give you superior evasion but thats been nerfed since Tekken 4(?). Now, in modern Tekken, any moves transitioning into flamingo stance is supposed to give you plus frames. But we all know that means nothing if your opponent is solid with their defensive movement. Heck, they can just disrespect hwoarang in certain situations if the opponent knows how hwo's moves work.
      In short, Hwoarang is a Stance character with no gimmicks and no tools to really make up for that.

  • @WickedLC21
    @WickedLC21 6 місяців тому

    1:59 it's almost a death combo

  • @Giraffinator
    @Giraffinator 7 місяців тому +2

    Man, I love Tekken

  • @loupast7587
    @loupast7587 7 місяців тому +1

    Xiaoyu deserves the buffs thats what they get for ignoring her on CNT well hwo also deserve lower hitbox hits XD (atleast he has new 15frame ws punish launcher)

  • @Cuticatie
    @Cuticatie 2 дні тому

    Thank you for showing your losses even when facing Ling Xiayou. Ling is actually one of the lowest tier character even in t8 (with her low damage and compared to others' character moves). Her moves are mostly subpar (no special effect, very hard to connect) and easily punishable or whiff once you learn them. As you are a Hwoarang main, I think you can punish her much more easily. But, maybe you felt bored, I could feel your boredom. Maybe you let Ling player won lol.

    • @K-Wiss
      @K-Wiss  2 дні тому

      Is this a troll?

  • @aymanehomail4307
    @aymanehomail4307 3 місяці тому +2

    Skilled xiaoyu vs spamer hwoarang

  • @georgezazanis
    @georgezazanis 6 місяців тому

    19:37 entering Ling's phoenix stance comes with a small sidestep, noticable on 19:38

    • @SeppukuSoup
      @SeppukuSoup Місяць тому +1

      19:19:49 time stamp is crazy lmao

    • @georgezazanis
      @georgezazanis Місяць тому

      @@SeppukuSoup thanks I corrected that

  • @Vany777
    @Vany777 Місяць тому

    Xiaoyu the best!! The best character ❤️ I'll never get tired of using it

  • @marcusfrydendal8829
    @marcusfrydendal8829 7 місяців тому +1

    Love ur videos man - From Denmark

  • @thesmoovest
    @thesmoovest 7 місяців тому

    #LingNation 🔥🔥😎💪🏾😂😂 yeah hes hella od with her. But u was handling him fr

  • @patrickmurphy3601
    @patrickmurphy3601 6 місяців тому

    That round at 9:42 daaaaamn

  • @dakotak51
    @dakotak51 6 місяців тому +1

    Ling nation standup😂😂😂

  • @whatever223able
    @whatever223able 7 місяців тому

    Hey wiss could you do a pressure guide if you havent already?

  • @OddWinterr
    @OddWinterr 6 місяців тому

    What’s the input for hwoarang when he kicks twice to keep the combo going? It looks similar to 3+4 but faster.

    • @KingSxngh
      @KingSxngh 6 місяців тому

      Up foward 3+4 I think

  • @SkarjOS
    @SkarjOS 7 місяців тому +2

    I just woke up and it's very telling because my first thought was "why is this man getting a hard time against Ling"
    Ffs

  • @xx-rimi
    @xx-rimi 5 місяців тому +2

    LING NATION!!!!!!

  • @Gboythunda
    @Gboythunda 7 місяців тому +2

    Changbang got GoD rank now. But yea. Aop shouldn't duck lows. Wtf

    • @ItsCassius
      @ItsCassius 7 місяців тому +25

      She doesn't. Xiaoyu does a small sidestep when entering AoP so depending on how linear the low is she's actually sidestepping it and not ducking it.

    • @ire80east46
      @ire80east46 7 місяців тому +10

      Lol its the fact that we're still explaining this in T8 ​@ItsCassius

    • @NrdDy
      @NrdDy 6 місяців тому +5

      High rank tech is to sidestep in AOP because AOP sidesteps naturally. It doesn’t duck lows. The low was side stepped into a stance

  • @shinoomar
    @shinoomar 7 місяців тому +1

    your problem is that you don't blook

    • @K-Wiss
      @K-Wiss  7 місяців тому +4

      I think I block quite a bit 😡

  • @ThatsWild1
    @ThatsWild1 7 місяців тому +1

    Kwiss video, life is good 😊

  • @lemstryZ
    @lemstryZ 6 місяців тому

    Gave you a hard time? U dominated her tf

  • @lesbinatural2104
    @lesbinatural2104 6 місяців тому

    how come u weren’t side stepping or blocking her though…

  • @koolmain8159
    @koolmain8159 7 місяців тому

    Can you make some hwoarang guides pls

  • @real_one8749
    @real_one8749 6 місяців тому

    Stupid tekken technical mechanism specialized for xiouyu. Everything will be abnormal when fight against xiouyu.
    Tekken did this since tekken 7

  • @AndreaDericci
    @AndreaDericci 5 місяців тому

    This makes me laugh! When we win we are strong, if it is our opponents they become annoying!

  • @wizardgamehubz
    @wizardgamehubz 7 місяців тому +2

    ❤ ling

  • @JianningDeng
    @JianningDeng 16 днів тому +1

    Yes, for Long is the true Tekken Queen🐦‍🔥🐦‍🔥🐦‍🔥❤❤❤

  • @melvinshine9841
    @melvinshine9841 7 місяців тому +2

    I know it's probably a legacy thing, but why does her Waning Moon lead to a full ass combo out in the open? Admittedly, I like Ling because she's pretty, but I can feel K-Wiss' frustration through the screen when she can just AOP and invalidate 75% of Hwoarang's moveset.
    5:31 - 5:35 I shouldn't be surprised anymore, but she ducked a mid. Like slow it down and stop at 5:33 to see how silly it is.
    13:47 - 14:04 Fanciness timestamped.
    K-Wiss: "No glaze, for real, no glaze, no glaze." We get it, K-Wiss, you like your ham extra dry.
    Would I be incredibly obnoxious with her if I could play Ling? Probably, yes.

    • @P-Likan
      @P-Likan 7 місяців тому +2

      AOP and movement is Ling's strength, yes AOP can duck mids though not all of them.. she has many other weaknesses, she is extremely vulnerable to stepping, her damage is lower than many other chars, her basic moves lack range and her frames are not so good compared to Hwo, she is much less safe when pressing and need to take more risks. Her identity is whiff punish and AOP is precisely built for her style to reinforce it. People complaining about her probably do not know the matchup, of course she can be very strong in the right hands but the key to deal with her is good fundamentals, strong knowledge of her moves and be conservative, not spamming moves ( as strong Ling players will whiff punish or CH you if you play into their hands )and knowing her patterns well (very few people do) because she can be punished on so many stuffs she does and step launched... She has a very complex movelist , requires high speed difficult execution to make the most out of her (optimal follow ups, low reaction times) and her movement ability ( which she relies on heavily and adds another layer of depth with her ) and as such is one of the most difficult character to master in T8 : she requires a lot of training and a creative approach ( she cannot adopt the same gameplan against any character unlike some other chars like Drag or Victor, because she heavily relies on whiff punishing therefore matchup knowledge is even more important for a Ling player to get good reads and expertly manage spacing with her unique movement patterns).

    • @timolechicguy
      @timolechicguy 6 місяців тому

      @@P-Likan that's not true, t8 ling is extremely strong in this game with the hypnotist stance .. they really should make the low coming out of hypnotist stance launch punishable on block. most of her lows arent launch punishable, except for the sweeps . she has good damage, good pressure, good evasion, complete throw game, strong wakeup games, good + frames, low risk/high reward, safe, good ch tools, good punishment, tracking is not a problem at all the only thing she is missing is a i15 launch from crouch and thats it lol they buffed her in the wrong way imo im still shocked that they arent nerfing her i14 standing punisher, why would you give her that when she can get away with everything, in t6 she was fair and not broken, in t7 she was good and in t8 she is gotten even better and im questionning the buffs. I wish they didnt give her all these +frames pressure on block and her damage is very high too compared to t7 ling she hits different 1:59 this whole string is guaranteed on hit while using heat this isnt ok... .... f21delay2 shouldnt give a guaranteed ub4

    • @P-Likan
      @P-Likan 6 місяців тому +3

      ​@@timolechicguy Thank you for your reply, I respect your opinion and love these discussions :) To be fair I said she can be very strong in the right hands ( she is most likely top 10) but I have to disagree with you on a few points. Yes she has amazing pressure because of great 50-50s and high speed transitions, it is indeed one of the most evasive character in the game. However to be honest her keep out game is weak, her pokes are short ranged ( compare that to Feng or Lili) , her damage on most regular move is lower than many chars ( compare that to Paul, Dragunov, Steve for instance). I sort of disagree on the frames because whilst most of what she does with low attacks is not launch punishable, it is still punishable and she does not have as many frame traps as some other chars. Also apart from a few moves (Ub3, Hypnotist 2 , f4 etc), she mostly relies on combos, punishes and strings because of short range low dmg pokes and many of these strings are horizontal/not tracking well, so easily stepped or sidewalked and punishable. Not being able to poke her way to victory like many other characters is a huge weakness IMO.. I wouldn't say she is low risk because to get your mixups you need to bait to whiff punish or expose yourself to close the distance due to her short range strings/pokes. To be a good Ling player, it is mandatory to be really fast ( skilled) to react with tight windows follow ups to combo ( like with Lee , high speed play character) . Finally she has one of the deepest movelist to work with, she is not easy to master and matchup knowledge is very important with her because you cannot apply the same gameplan against everyone like some other characters can because whiff punishing using superior movement is not optional with her. I cannot prove that but I am convinced that for these reasons, the average Ling Xiaoyu player ( there are not that many ) is more skilled than average so it can convey a wrong impression to people losing to her that she is OP on top of these players not knowing the matchup and her mixups well. I think that you are right that she is clearly better than in T7 but I also think that several characters currently are extremely strong in offence ( borderline broken for 2-3 of them) and that she is not really one of them ( because she has more obvious weaknesses) though she definitely has outstanding pressure potentially when a very strong player uses her ( though not on par with Dragunov's pressure for instance because her pressure is mostly from her high speed 50-50s and AOP evasiveness, instead of based on frame advantages.

    • @euomu
      @euomu 6 місяців тому

      Sure, Xiaoyu evading your moves, is frustrating, but not as frustrating as being assaulted by what feels like one of those wooden Chinese training dummies with the rotating segments 😂

  • @I_Astral
    @I_Astral 7 місяців тому

    Sum body go smoke that yute 🥵 (it would be an honor to have your Hwoa smoke mines’ pack)

  • @AndreaDericci
    @AndreaDericci 5 місяців тому

    Isn't Hwoarang annoying? He is a hateful character, constantly kicked like shit

  • @Red_The_Ripper
    @Red_The_Ripper 4 місяці тому

    Much others are proud of poke spam

  • @aldrinbagasina9679
    @aldrinbagasina9679 6 місяців тому

    i dont know if it was only me,, but i think they buff xiaoyus AOP. I can notice that she slightly sidestep when going to AOP or i am just seeing things?

    • @tatatanae4532
      @tatatanae4532 4 місяці тому

      That's how AOP works for as long as it exists, small step to her right.

  • @Red_The_Ripper
    @Red_The_Ripper 4 місяці тому

    I dont like Hwo

  • @JianningDeng
    @JianningDeng 16 днів тому +1

    Xiaoyu is the True Tekken Queen🐦‍🔥🐦‍🔥🐦‍🔥❤️❤️❤️👅👅👅