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In a surprise social media post this weekend, Joe Biden stood down from his re-election campaign and endorsed VP Kamala Harris. Significant support has mounted in the past 48 hours for Harris, but how does this change the presidential race?
Hannah Barnes, associate editor at the New Statesman, is joined by political editor Andrew Marr to discuss the developments in US politics.
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Correction: Andrew Marr states that Kamala Harris has never been elected. Kamala Harris was elected District Attorney of San Francisco (2004-2011), Attorney General of California (2011-2017), and Senator, CA (2017-2021).
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AND elected Vice President of the United States in 2020. Joe Biden may have put her on the ticket, but WE voted for that ticket in that election. Kamala, like Joe, was elected.
As I said, this is the worst New Statesman podcast ever (and I’ve watched a lot of them). Andrew Marr should apologize.
Marr inserted a disclaimer: "never been elected in an open election." His point was valid to anyone capable of critical and unemotional analysis.
It's official. Joe Biden will be the last white male Democrat president. You read it here first.
@@ittmann1? open election? 2020 was an open election. What BS
@@tps178 Marr was obviously referring to CA. Bottom of the ticket in 2020 is an appointment. Kamala dropped out of the primary before a single ballot was cast in IA or NH, after Tulsi Gabbard put an end to campaign on the debate stage, even though Kamala had raised tens of millions from the party machine. The same party machine which selected her for VP and appointed her multiple times in CA. This really is not complicated nor shocking, it's just big money politics.
Andrew Marr needs to leave commentary on US politics to those who know what they're talking about... because he clearly doesn't.
I agree 👍 I wonder what they would have said if she was white
!!!!!*******!!
Joe Biden has been the best thing that could have happened to America at that time as he got rid of trump. THAT is his legacy. We have to thank him for that instead of rubbishing him. Andrew Marr doesn’t know what he is talking about. The American people will vote for Harris as it is again a vote against trump if nothing else. I wish them well.
Agreed, I would extend that to say, Andrew Marr should remain silent on Politics for long time!
He needs to do the same with British Politics
Kamala Harris was elected as San Francisco district attorney,
State of california attorney general, and U.S. senator from california.
I mean, it doesn't get any more basic than this about the ignorant/stupid statement that nobody has ever elected her to anything. I'm sure the people of California might have something to say about that.
Can you believe the stupidity of Marrs comments.? I love how clever all the pundits are now and last week were declaring that chaos would ensue if Joe Biden left the race. Most people haven't a clue about how politics will turn out. Politics have a life of their own
maybe we should question whether Marr is up to the job?
She was also elected as US Vice President, albeit on the ticket with Biden.
@@dadkinsonShe was never elected as VP! She was appointed by Biden! She has only ever “won” one election as DA by one vote! Her appointment to the Senate was by uncontested appointment!
This chap has so little expertise it’s shocking.
Extraordinarily well put! Thank you @@
It's all Attitude ! As w!ith most people .What we want need in leaders is
Common sense, and Christainty, faith and Faithfull=No corruption,Not more of the same..x
Absolutely horrible, inaccurate, embarrassing drivel from Marr. Shows little or no understanding of President Biden's presidency or Kamala Harris's record. One of the worst gormless interviews I have ever watched. Yuk!!!
Great use of the word “gormless”.
It’s shameful - he’s propagating conspiracy theories
Absolutely agree with you,I don't understand these two.
Remember he writes for the Daily Wail. He can't have much gorm in the first place.
Pleasure [for me] at finding kindred spirits re. AM who I am inclined to admire MOST of the time. Quite how he comes to his opinions here rather baffles me!! That KH gets mildly slated is grotesque.....or is it M 'keeping in' with Harmsway & his horrid 'duly vile' rag. GGgrrhhhH!
It's very poor, and very disappointing, for an influential political commentator to be so misinformed. She has been elected several times.
No she hasn't
@BobbyBluejacket the constitution says no such thing.
Not true… she was elected to several California offices…Attorney General of California , California Senator and San Francisco District Attorney. Be factual please….
does the commentator maybe have cognitive decline too? maybe the interviewer could have caught the error?
He's not educated
And more than that, Trump donated thousands to her campaign!!! 🤣
Think he's referring to high office.
But the other roles she didn't earn, she's the Meghan Markle of californian politics.
Being elected in commiefornia is being the biggest clown in the circus the entire state is 💩
There is even a map showing the 💩
“She’s not been elected to anything.” Wow - check your facts, mates. District attorney, state attorney general, senator, and vice president.
factsss
Ignorance or wilful misleading I wonder?
Marr's statement is correct. Biden was elected not Kamala. Plus all of her California elections were essentially political appointments. In practice CA is a one party state. Kamala had the backing of the Dem Party machine in CA so she did not face any real opposition in any of her primaries. This is well documented. So what Marr is saying is more nuanced, Kamala has never faced any electoral competition, save for her roll as VP, which does not count, as it is a position to which she was appointed by Biden.
In the US we elect both the President and Vice President. We could elect someone VP who is not from either party. If the Electoral College were hung and the election thrown to Congress to select the President and VP; the House of Representatives choose the President and the Senate chooses the VP
Vice President of the Unite States is an elected position. Get off of the MAGA kool-aid.
This video shows no research. This is legit embarrassing. Stick to uk politics.
He’s pretty bad at that these days too. He genuinely believed the Tories would do well because they always do. He’s out of touch now and has been for some time.
💯. Actually pretty shocking this level of ignorance to be honest given he's supposed to be one of the UK's most preeminent political commentators.
Speaking with such confidence while saying things that are demonstrably false does viewers a huge disservice.
I mean it's one thing to agree to talk about a subject you know nothing about, but failure to even glance at Wikipedia beforehand is inexcuseable.
@willsmith39 your last sentence has me the most mad. One of the 1st things you see on her wiki page is all the positions she has had( and are clickable so he(or really an intern) and how she got them. I believe she won elections for all of them.
Not to mention the insulting dismissal he( and to be fair bad faith actors in the US media) who don't realize the Democratic nomination is about getting party delegates. So the fact that the majority already back her, is like winning a party vote. It isn't too dissimilar to party leadership contests in the UK. The UK just doesn't have the primary part. Technically the US party conventions are like the UK.
No, he should go gardening.
1:30 Andrew, i know you might be new to American Politics, but Harris was elected as Attorney General for California, and elected as US senator for California. Also , as part of a ticket, we actually elect VPs along with Presidents. They have a separate vote in the Electoral College. I urge you to do a modicum of research.
IKR. Skill level of some UA-cam Channel, not major news organization
He only needs to take a quick look at Wikipedia to get the basics about Harris.
I can never again tske seriously Andrew Marr....
Agreed
Agreed!
She _did_ get elected to the position of California Attorney General, twice, and elected to the position of Senator for California. Her campaign was initially talked about a lot but internal staffing issues plagued the campaign, along with her naturally quite shy (by American standards) personality acting as an impediment to her public speaking skills in the context of speeches (as in, not prosecuting a case against someone/something). Four years on, she has had much more practice at public speaking and she has much more maturity. She is also able to take advantage of the existing Biden-Harris campaign staff.
The 4 years term in Senate, especially on judiciary committee, honed her skills
And has many times told us that she is able to see what may be unhindered by the past.
I agree that this discussion displays a shocking lack of understanding of our political system. I don’t really understand yours, but I don’t do pod casts on UK politics.
Wow, I like Andrew marr but I’m actually really disappointed with him in this interview. Not because I disagree with him but because his grasp of the facts is so poor. Kamala has most certainly been elected to various offices. What a blunder..
Its strange - i dont recognise him
These talking heads are SO ignorant of the electoral history of Harris. Get your facts
Andrew Marr is immediately disqualified from giving his opinion about Kamala Harris and the Democratic party by such shocking ignorance! Saying that Harris has never been elected and introducing suspicions of backroom deals is totally irresponsible - and it is equally shocking that Hannah Barnes was not well enough briefed to call him out immediately. Both Marr and the New Statesman no longer deserve our trust.
Methinks that Marr was revealing unreasonable prejudice against Harris. What is the root of his dislike of her? He clearly knows very little about her or her election victories.
I'm shocked how badly Marr got the facts wrong on this.
ditto
@@evam4536I'm not, he lives perpetually in a left wing champagne socialist bubble.
Im not. Hes been talking b^llocks for a while now. Possibility of Alzheimer's disease. Sad really, he used to be quite interesting.
Never elected? How did she get in the Senate?
New Statesman turns its gaze across the Atlantic and finds itself immediately in amateur hour once again
as vice president she becomes speaker of the senate
@@richardmoon483 That’s not the question. Kamala Harris was a duly elected US Senator before she became Vice President.
She won the 2016 election, defeating Sanchez for the CA seat held by Barbara Boxer, who retired.
@@ReubenJBrown I have to agree with you. I'm surprised that Andrew, whom I thought was astute, is actually this ignorant about something he opines on so often. Almost nothing he said is true. Biden is old. However, Biden is plenty capable at governing. He is considerably slower, but his cognitive ability is fine (see the NATO press conference where he answered a number of questions on a number of subjects). I am truly shocked at the daft behavior of two people I had come to respect.
Let me answer another "concern." Obama hasn't "endorsed" Harris. There is a simple reason for that, geniuses. She is not the party nominee. As the only former Democratic president, non-office holder, Obama is doing what one would expect someone in this position to do: wait until she is officially the nominee to endorse her. Second, Biden, had he continued, would have won. It would have been narrower, but he would have. Even after the disastrous debate performance, much of the polling was beginning to stabilize and was largely within the margin of error. However, there can be no doubt that there was a lack of excitement in the way that the Trumpanzees display for their Chief Oompa Loompa. They will come out to vote for a wheel of brie cheese, if one can convince them that it came from between Nitwit Nero's toes. It was this and the internal polling, and some of the other polls that these two seem to be completely unaware of, that made President Biden decide to do this. In fact, it was his understanding of all of this, not someone who is in 1) cognitive and 2) decline would see. Again, I think he would have won, but the polls were too close for comfort, and the Democratic Party needed the excitement of a dynamic person like Vice-President Harris who could provide ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL, what President Biden could not.
And finally, one more thing, which again shows the utter ignorance of these two. If Biden were to resign, Harris would become president. There would be no vice-president. Why these two nebbishes may ask? In an instance like this, the House and Senate must approve the appointment of the vice-president. Given who controls the House, especially, this would not have happened. There would be no vice president. That means that religious zealot Mike Johnson, as speaker of the house, would be next in line to the presidency. In addition, were there a tie on a vote in the senate, there would be no vice-president to break that tie, and breaking a tie in the senate is the only actual constitutional prerogative of the vice-president.
Again, for two people who purport to know something about US politics, the ignorance is palpable. I was under the impression that Andrew had at least a working knowledge of government and politics. Sadly, the words out of his mouth might as well be the dribblings of a baby barfing pablum.
And your idiotic remarks about never elected is a moronic blunder.
I think you haven't quite understood what he was getting at.
@@davidk7262 No he was trying to demean her status as a candidate. With false information he didn't know was false.
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Totally agree. He should retire.
Andrew Marr just lost huge amount of his professional credibility
Cognitive decline? Or was he always so useless, just protected in the inner circle of The BBC?
Never elected? 2010 California attorney general beating Steve Coolen then 2014 against someone I can’t remember and then she went on to became the states senator for like 5 years
@BobbyBluejacket "appointed"
Jesus didnt the people research anything. His statement makes no reference to not being fit for office as the reason for dropping out so why would he resign his current office now?
Lot of obvious errors in this interview, doesn't really know what he's talking about, think he may be past it, time to give it up?
He knows a lot about Mao though
I was thinking this. Surprisingly uninformed interview that misses the mark on so many things. Accusing her of being complicit in covering up Biden’s decline, for example, is so unfair. A) it’s her boss and running mate in election year, so what’s she supposed to say or do in public? B), Biden was basically only listening to Jill and Hunter by the end, so it wouldn’t have mattered much anyway
Had to stop watching less than two minutes in because this "expert" guest doesn't seem to know how elections work. As a CA resident, who has voted for her multiple times, I can assure you that she has been and will be elected.
Andrew Marr is the political editor for The New Statesman and is a very experienced, well-respected former BBC journalist and broadcaster.
@@consideredwhisper Then if he isn't in cognitive decline he should realize he's outside his wheelhouse in US politics and culture.
@@pmeisman Do you really think she will beat Trump? Why?
The point is that there is no real contest in California - whoever the Democratic Party appointed gets elected
I think he means that she has been elected as the Democrat representative. No way she’s beating Trump, won’t even be close. Most dems know that.
Sadly, this podcast is Marr's equivalent to Biden's debate performance - so disappointing 😮
They should probably take this video down. I like Marr a lot, but he gets so much stuff hilariously wrong here.
It doesn’t smell bad. Just politics, Biden had wanted to continue, and if Harris had pushed too soon, she would have blown it.
That'd how she got where she is!
She got 8 millions votes in 2016 to be elected to be US senator from California. That was a historical number to be elected to be a senator.
Then she went about keeping people in prison after release date for cheap labour. She's been exposed.
Not only would having two Californians on the ticket be ‘very weird’, Andrew, it would also be unconstitutional …
Sorry, but that's a false claim you're making - VP and P *can* be from the same state
@@angusgus123 No. They can be from the same state but that state’s electoral votes are forfeited, which loses the election (12th Amendment). The 12th amendment actually says ‘The Electors shall meet in their respective states and vote by ballot for President and Vice-President, one of whom, at least, shall not be an inhabitant of the same state with themselves’
@@angusgus123That is incorrect,sir, that is why Marco Rubio would have had to move out of state if selected by Trump. The US constitution clearly says that the President and Vice president must be from different states.
@@angusgus123 guess again.
L O L it does not "clearly state" that anywhere. you couldve spent two minutes learning the actual situation but instead chose comically wrong with confidence
In 2003, she was elected DA of San Francisco. She was elected attorney general of California in 2010 and re-elected in 2014. Harris served as the junior U.S. senator from California from 2017 to 2021; she defeated Loretta Sanchez in the 2016 Senate election to become the second African-American woman and the first Indian American to serve in the U.S. Senate.
Marr tried to smear Harris - failed.
I’m also quite shocked that Hannah doesn’t know enough about Harris to fill in Marr’s gaps and 6:23 question his claim that ‘she’s never been elected’.
Might be a good use of AI - real time fact checking
People seem to misunderstand. He didn’t step down because he’s declining per se. He stepped down b/c the polling showed he couldn’t win so he had to make a tough decision. So there was no deceit
That is deceit. The voting was rigged for him to be the candidate and now his cover has been blown and they know he’ll lose they’re ditching him regardless of votes.
He has never said he’s not capable of anything, he has pulled out of an election, for which he wasn’t even the nominee yet
It shows how ridiculously stupid this man is, by saying she’s never been elected, how did she get to be a senator
Kamala Haris has been elected to public office 6 separate times.
2004 - San Francisco District attorney
2008 - San Francisco District attory8
2010 - Attorney General of California
2014 - Attorney General of California
2016 - United States Senator for California
2020 - Vice President of the United States
It cannot be stressed enough that EVERY American should read the Project 2025 manifesto, and see for themselves the danger it poses to all of us. This isn't a Red or Blue thing anymore, it's an outright, extremely detailed, clear and present threat to everything we, as Americans, hold dear. This isn't hysterical bleating, it's a call to all of us to read the manifesto. If you enjoy all of the freedoms you currently have, if you cherish our Constitution and the Rule of Law, if you want to feel safe in your homes without fear of being arrested on some insane charge, like, 'speaking out against the regime', if you cherish the education you received, and that your children receive, if you cherish your Right to go where you wish, read what you wish, speak to whomever you wish, love whomever you wish, then READ Project 2025 and SEE how ALL OF IT can be taken away from you, regardless of who you voted for. Trump's supporters will NOT be immune from this nightmare!
Yeah I'm sure the people who call it fascism any time the blue team loses and election really mean it this time guys. If Trump wins again Dems will call him moderate the moment he leaves office and then say his successor is actually the real super mega Hitler and we need to go back to reasonable republicans like Trump. Just like how the media now loves Dubya who they were frothing at the mouth over 20 years ago.
People like Andrew Marr have lost sight of the fact that politics matters in the real world and is not just a sporting event of who is up and who is down.
dude this is a political chat show; you need to slow your roll son
@@Nicoleessellier Are you new to politics? 🤣
Just watched her Wisconsin speech, think Andrew might be eating his words in November. She was mighty impressive.
Sad perception, Andrew I think Mr Biden is just an old man. He is not 'demented' as anyone who knws someone who has been with someone like this can attest!
Glad he has stood down; and I like Kamala!
Nobody ever in politics or in industry undermines the organisation they work for; it would be a great lapse of professionalism. If Harris had criticised Biden, Andrew Marr would now complain about Harris being disloyal. Also of course Biden can do the job. There will be no great legislative efforts between now and January 25. If a crisis comes, there are excellent people around Biden. Of course Biden can do the job. Maybe not in 4 years time. But he can definetly see out his term. This is just arguments for argument's sake.
I think that Biden’s Covid episode brought home to him his increasing frailty and the difficulties he would have in sustaining a further four and a half years. I am 80 myself and remain fit and energetic but a hard day’s work can leave me very tired the next day. Basically I don’t bounce back from a physical or mental effort as quickly as I would even ten years ago. So my view is that it was Covid that saved America from another Trump presidency.
It's just wrong how Marr does not know that the United States Constitution does not permit the Prez and VP to come from the same state. But then last week, he got the name of the French Prime Minister wrong #coulddobetterNS
That claim re VP and P is bogus, sorry
Sorry you are ill-informed mr Snopes.
Cognitive decline??
Technically, it's not unconstitutional for the President and Vice President to be from the same state. The Twelfth Amendment, however, states that an elector cannot vote for both the President and Vice President if they are from the elector's own state. This means that in a close election, having both candidates from the same state could be a disadvantage.
@@angusgus123Sorry I mean vis-à-vis the Electoral College, as indeed outlined by the person below.
She is Biden's VP, of course she was going to be loyal and not badmouth him publicly and I think people will understand that.
It's not so much whether Biden is in decline which led to his resignation, there was nothing to hide, everyone could make their own mind up. What mattered is voter perception about his ability to function as President had bitten deeply into his prospects of winning in November. With each passing hour the only way forward to return a Democrat to The White House seemed for him to withdraw from the race. His health became less of a factor than the likely result.
Marr doesn’t acknowledge that Harris has been and is still the Vice President of the United States. Biden-Harris ticket has delivered great things for America Economy and Social Justice.
Finally a young, vigorous candidate, with normal sized hands and real hair.
I’ve heard she doesn’t wear nappies either.
Donnie can say "I've got actually giant hands" as long as he wants, in his brain his "11th finger" will remain half an inch.
I've heard she's paid her taxes, never commuted fraud or cheated on all of her partners. She's never been barred from running a charity, either.
@@diverguy3556I've heard she's never grabbed anyone anywhere on their body too.
Wow... So ignorant
"Electoral history of Kamala Harris" in an internet search will enable all viewers to educate themselves to a higher degree than these two. 😮
Saying she’s never been elected is blatantly and stupidly wrong 🙄
Haven’t you been watching Harris over the last few days? Her speeches have been brilliant
Ah she’s a snake and this is a coup.
Lol what was her excuse the last three years. I was born and raised in California, she let us down
She is good at speaking but lack new creative ideas. A good woman anyway.
@@williamding2910 Word 🥗
@@jaybee4288 a better option than Dementia Don
Andrew, Kamala was elected California DA
This is truly awful.
Nonsense questions. Kamala has been elected to government office before the VP position. Do some research before trying to create controversy
She was elected Attorney General in California and to the Senate, do your homework before commenting on important issues and,I would expected a lot more from you given you two been in news business for so many years.
The kind of ignorant arrogance displayed by that man Marr is breathtaking. Kamala was on the ticket together with Biden and as his running mate secured votes that won the Democrats the presidency. Additionally, she was elected to several California offices as is stated in other posts below. And to call deceit that Biden's team stood by him until he himself took the decision to step aside is outright stupid. What Marr calls deceit is called loyalty.
Marr, you don’t understand the rules of the Democratic Party. The primary vote for Biden was also a vote for Harris as he is president. The VP steps in if the president withdraws and then needs to get the endorsement of the delegates. She has done that.
If Biden did plan to hold on then he would have always held until after the Republican convention so that it can cut the bounce short. And that is politics. You would not complain if Trump did it. Double standards again by the press.
And who elected JD Vance? And what are his qualifications: less than a year in the Senate. Put up by the Heritage Foundation.
Embarrassing that they're being as ignorant about US politics as the USA is about ours.
Oh dear Andrew, you got that wrong old chum. Our US cousins even elect their Sheriffs!
Now i know not to trust a word Andrew marr says total one sided poor poor journalism ❤
If you ignore Biden's word confusion, what he said was good. If you compare his record with Trump's. he comes out on top. Of course, presentation is key in politics
Are you serious? Biden has lied throughout his career. He is the worst president in history
Mr Marr needs to check his facts.
You don’t know what you’re talking about dude get off of it. We’re both voting blue blew all the way.
One of Harris' underlings says she's not really an inarticulate idiot. Doesn't Marr think this person might not be impartial?
It wouldn't be "weird" to have a presidential and vice presidential candidate from the same state: it'd be unconstitutional. See the 12th Amendment.
Technically, it's not unconstitutional for the President and Vice President to be from the same state. The Twelfth Amendment, however, states that an elector cannot vote for both the President and Vice President if they are from the elector's own state. This means that in a close election, having both candidates from the same state could be a disadvantage.
How did she get to be a V.P.? It is called an election.
She was elected many times including as part of the last ticket with Joe Biden. I m surprised at Andrew for saying otherwise
Many of Marr’s statements about Kamala are incorrect. Which shows the ignorance of this man and therefore, nothing he has to say has any substance.
Usually i like your programme, this is horribly wrong.
Yep, I'm a big fan of Andrew Marr, but this was way off base. That was a damned shame.
Quite disappointed that Marr doesn't seem to realise that Kamala Harris WAS elected to the Senate.
@BobbyBluejacket You are right--Marr should be ashamed of his ignorance. I was quite surprised at what seems to reveal on his part an unreasonable prejudice against this woman.
Cognitive decline starts at age 19 for some functions, and the brain has peaked in most regards by age 40. Now clearly, Andrew shows that he doesn’t have a handle on the facts in this matter, which makes me question if he’s still up to the task or should resign.
Quit right. He used to be right on and sharp on facts. Not anymore!
@@tomross4599 Hoisted with his own petard
Andrew is way over 40 just saying
Can anyone give me one accomplishment of Ms. Harris. Just one,, please.
please don't flaunt your ignorance about Harris. Attorney General of a state (California) is an elective office. She was also elected to the senate. Most US public offices are elected. Astonishingly poor.
The critiques discussed here would matter a whole lot more if Harris' opponent was 'normal' in any sense. Just why the hell should anyone care how the process was handled or who knew what about Biden's health (bearing in mind, all that has meant so far is a few flubs and spacey public appearances, no actual national disasters), come anywhere close to the derangement of Donald Trump and the completely dystopian Project 2025 plan. That will be the choice and Harris has to communicate and hammer home what that choice is.
Andrew Marr, you seem to have been living under a rock. Check the facts.
I hope she wins I hate trump and his lies this guy is a trumper
Andrew Marr showing his cognitive decline once again.
Andrew Marr is a natural conservative and is fighting to accept that it is over for the conservatives for quite some time. He needs to see the future and not live in the past.
oh I don't know. he was effusive about investment flooding into the country now the Tories are out.
What does this guy mean Kamla has never been elected 😂 she was a whole senator and have plenty elected positions in her career. And her being VP alongside Joe isn’t elected? The Americans who voted Joe knew very well who was second in line for president when they voted.
And she was elected District Attorney.
She only got elected cos she loves yellow electric school buses.......!
Yeah, I'll throw my bit in too, she's been elected several times.
She was Great taking William Bar appart
And Brett Kavanaugh.
Junior Senator from California
Democrat
Served Jan 3, 2017 - Jan 18, 2021
Andrew Marr said Sen. Harris has never been elected to anything.
If that statement is incorrect, then please let Mr Marr retract the statement.
Hopefully, it won't take too long to get her name right. It's kamala as in 'comma', not kamala as in 'camera'.
Kamala makes Joe look honest!!!
What is this nonsense
Kamala Harris was elected attorney general of California in 2010 and re-elected in 2014. She served as the junior U.S. senator from California from 2017 to 2021. It is vital to our country and the world that she is elected as the next president of the United States.
It's vital that you give your head wobble and stop crying wolf any time the blue team loses an election. America would probably be an amazing place if all the people who threaten t leave it any time their team loses and election actually did leave.
Not sure Andrew has really understood the issues on this, and KH has been elected. Can't wait for him to change his tune and say 'Oh wow, maybe she could win!' Which she could...! (And her first rally today was incredibly good!)
His own staff didn't know, even Joe only knew after he read it on social media. On a human level I hope the guy still has many years left and enjoys the rest of his life with his family and friends ❤
Dear me. You’d think this lot would understand politics.
Andrew’s job has never been to understand anything other than what the establishment wants and how to sell it to the plebs.
I now know that Marr is nothing but a political neophyte able to use big words and blather much but say nothing to hide the fact that he has no clue what he's talking about.
Andrew Marr should do his homework before he comments on Kamala ‘never been elected’ a snide remark!
The difference now is that we all want her to succeed. The world is behind you Kamala! You got this!
Another correction: Having 2 Californians in the president and vice president roles would be not weird but actually illegal. President and VP MUST NOT be 'inhabitants of the same state', as per the 12th amendment. Marr's really not strong on US politics at all, he was a bad choice for this interview.
You just misspoke ~ Kamala has been elected as the VP and Attorneys General
And senator
Just as these two expect democracts to explain the Biden thing, I expect them to apologize for this terrible showing of journalistic incompetence
I'm not entirely sure that I approve of your tone, either of you, so I'll be leaving now.
I think you’ll find, Andrew, that she was elected to the US Senate, twice elected Attorney General of California, and elected as Vice President of the USA. I think you’ll find that’s actually quite consequential as a record of being elected to things.
Good chat - however maybe they let the Republicans slag off Joe at the major exposure RNC and then change to Kamala - negating their rhetoric. So Joe's timing was planned to perfection!
This is my general thought, let the republicans put all their eggs in one basket and then completely change the game. Removing their focus on Biden and his age and wiping out any benefit of appointing jd vance
Joe's timing...🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
lol, he just rolls with the never elected and untested narrative. I rememeber seeing foreign news coverage of brexit footage that did this - basically said everyone was voting leave because we are angry with the loss of the British empire...lololol. Funny really.
I remember Mr Marr telling us not so long ago that he reckoned Keir Starmer as Prime Minister would be more radical than we expect and that he would be quite zealous over the scale of poverty in the country.
The same Keir Starmer who, fewer than three weeks into the job, suspended 7MPs (yes, that is right, a PM with 411 MPs SUSPENDING 7 of them) for voting to lift 300,000 children out of poverty against his wishes. Doling out a grand's worth of punishment for a tenner crime.
Alas, Andrew's cache in the 'Oh, I think so-and-so will be better in office' stakes is pretty low. The ol' crystal ball needs a wipe and a re-tuning.
It's possible that Starmer sees this rebellion as a good thing long term, as some of these MPs are from the Corbyn era and a poor fit for what he wants to do.
That said, not ditching the cap is disgraceful.
3 weeks in and suddenly YOU get your crystal ball out and know what Starmer will do during his tenure, the first decision he makes that you disagree with. Almost like you were sitting waiting for an excuse ....
He's maintaining discipline is all. He said he'd considering dropping the cap, he's just not going to be seen to be bullied into otherwise what do you think would happen with so many parts of the country disintegrating, competing in a decimated economy?
Besides which, there are people who are dying due to NHS backlogs through no fault of their own : a decent proportion of the people who want benefits for more than 2 kids were simply irresponsible and selfish. Of course absolutely there are cases where it's not their fault, but people who have like 5 kids and of the basis that other people will pay for them - people who themselves wanted to have more kids and didnt because they couldn't afford it - is deeply unfair. Nor is it good for society.
God that is TOE CURLINGLY bad from Marr. Shocking lack of knowledge on Harris. And the correction doesn't make it better AT ALL.
You should stick to UK politics. What you said is often inaccurate, biased and makes me feel sick with ur bigotry
04:15 'Having two Californians up there would be weird'
Not only that, it would be outright illegal. VP candidates must be from another state under the US constitution