Between you and Chuckee2009 mostly, and some here and there reviews, I bought my first welder from Everlast. Its just the little 140st but i love it so far. Watching your videos and this review of the power imig205, I've decided that will be my next purchase. I've used "Red and Blue" and Everlast seems to be giving them a run for their money. Thanks for great videos. I love watching and learning from ya fella. Keep em comin!
My first welder as an everlast 140st. Great little welder. I've a couple of its bigger brothers and a plasma cutter since. It's pretty much the entire family now!
Great video! Really helpful to hear a honest review. Even with the issues the price makes it a winner especially for the weekend warrior\ hobby welder (although you're pretty much a full time welder). The blue and red ones sure are great machines but when welding doesn't make you money it's hard to justify the price and from what I've seen from my local welding shop the service isn't a factor (but that's not true at every shop).
Good informative video Jimbo. I would love to try welding and someday plan to. One geography lesson though...Everlast comes out of Burlington, Ontario, Canada, which is on the western side of Toronto. This is in no way considered northern Canada. It's like saying San Diego is northern California. I won't hold it against you though. ;)
I really agree. Forgetting to attach the ground lead has to be a pretty common thing to do. A properly designed machine should have detected the error before damaging itself.
I don't understand what happened to Jimbo. I've forgotten to connect the return lead many times on my everlast plasma and have never had any issues like this.
My Lincoln Idealarc 250 burns 3/8 7018 deep into 3/8" steel all day long non stop at 95 amps. I like some of these Chinese welders but they all exaggerate their power and duty cycle.
I spoke with an oleg from Everlast yesterday in California. He was rude enough for me to hangup. The site said 809 for the 206pi. He told me that was an old price and I should refresh my cookies and I'll see the full price. Apparently the site was running a 10 percent promo or something I couldn't understand coming from oleg's mouth. I proceeded to ask if he could get an approval for the price in an email which he already had. He then told me he would not bug his manager unless I was ready to purchase while on the phone. I had clearly started the conversation stating I was shopping around and comparing all the multi function machines. I'm still hunting to replace a 25 year old century unit. Great videos though.
Hi Jim. Thanks for your video. I know its an older video now (4 years old at the time of this post). Do you have any updates to your experiences with Everlast support? Do you have any instances where you have needed repairs done to the machines since the video? If so - what types of issues and did you opt to do the repairs/replacements with supplied parts or did you send any machines in?
Hello Jim, That was certainly not your fault. My Harbor Freight plasma cutter has lasted fifteen years or more and I have several times lost or forgot to hook up the ground. An open circuit does not cause a fault in the machine. For shame on them. I also feel if you had to wait two weeks for a fan they should have sent a replacement machine. If it happens often then they need to package them better. Again their fault not yours and why should you be repairing a brand new machine? Not good! They just seem to lack credibility. They keep dumping their faults on you. Bad Bad customer service. Risking replacing a computer card in a machine is just asking for problems down the road. If that basic card was bad or installed poorly then what else will fail and most likely after warranty. Pretty dismal story all around. I have an HTP Tig which I haven't used (as I am in the middle of shop construction and the old shop is too crowded to set up a bench) but they seem to handle their customer issues in a better fashion. As well as being right there in southern California for you. Take care. Doug
Great review on the Everlast Equipment. I've got 2 units myself, 210EXT & i275P. I've also had very good response time when getting support from Everlast. I deal with Everlast Sales in San Francisco, I live on the central coast here in California, so it's usually on a couple of days for anything I buy.
I purchased my Everlast PowerPRO 164Si about a month ago after seeing your machines being used. Love the multi process machine and i'm very happy with my purchase.
Thanks for the information. I really enjoy your videos. Seeing equipment in use and what others think of it is very valuable. I own a Lincoln MIG. I am going to look at an Everlast plasma cutter when I purchase my next machine. Keep up the GREAT work !
Hello Jimbo. I enjoy your videos and have also bought welding equipment over the past 3 years. I too bought some Everlast stuff, but I've since become convinced that their products aren't all that great and really aren't such a good value. In watching your videos it seems that most of your equipment has had some sort of failure. Bad fan, failed plasma cutter, failed high frequency start....and power calibration issues on the stick welded. While you are an ideal customer in that you are willing to actually do warranty repairs on your dime, I don't think your experiences with this equipment reflect well on the supplier. I suspect that part of the reason you did the repairs yourself is that per the Everlast warranty statement, to obtain warranty service one must pay shipping to get the machine to Everlast and back. That's a bunch of money. And then there's the question of having your machine out of service for months. So, they encourage you do warranty work on their machines on your dime. Not so good. I purchased a 250 EX TIG machine and experienced an intermittent main power switch, so based on our small sample size it's clear there are definitely design/quality issues with this equipment. But what's more important than the outright quality issues is the underlying reason for them and the un-likelihood that this equipment will run for decades...which is sort of what's expected of welding equipment. As a tinkerer I always remove the covers of my machines to see what's under the hood. I am a technology manufacturing guy and have been for more than 30 years, so I know a product that is well designed and manufactured when I see it. The 250 EX is basically an ancient design. Yes, it uses IGBT technology, but the thing is all through-hole components with all analog controls and with build quality that has to be described as hideous. I'd be happy to send you photos. The other thing is that this welder really wasn't all that cheap. Yes, much cheaper than a Miller Dynasty, but this thing is no Miller Dynasty. More than how it was designed and manufactured, there is the question of how it works. Yes, it has 250 AMPs. But none of the controls do exactly what it is that they're supposed to. The pre and post flow timers calibrations aren't correct, the pulse controls are way way off. More importantly, while the thing will weld, it's abilities at the low end of the output scale are just horrible. It can't maintain a low amperage arc, flaring instead. In short, it's just a really old design that because of the myriad connectors and little boards and the extensive use of solder as a means to carry high amperages, etc. etc....will be unlikely to have a long and happy life. Again, I have run many tech manufacturing operations and I know. Part of the reason why I can say these things is that I replaced the Everlast machine with an HTP TIG machine....made in Italy. The difference is night and day. The HTP (actually STEL) machine is completely state of the art with all SMT designs, all large components vibration protected, extensive heat dissipation built into the boards, very little cabling, all digital controls that do exactly what they're supposed to, fans that run only when needed, and just so very much better control of the arc. It's really a thing of beauty. Not even close. Then there are the peripherals that come with the machine. A CK Superflex torch rather than the generic Chinese torch that came with the Everlast, the American made foot pedal that works oh so much better than what came with the Everlast. Again, a picture is worth a thousand words and I'd be happy to send you photos. In short, while the Everlast was a few hundred dollars less, it was worth far, far less. While I've not owned an Everlast MIG or stick machine I also own a Lincoln 210 MP. Removing the covers from the Lincoln reveals a thoroughly modern machine that will likely run forever. It does a fine job for both MIG and stick (the HTP machine is a phenomenal stick welder in addition to TIG), it runs on 120 or 240, and it cost $1,200. I just can't fathom why someone would buy an Everlast machine over this or the Miller 211/215. While Everlast is basically a reseller of Chinese machines with essentially no engineering capabilities, Lincoln, Miller, and STEL actually design (and build) their machines. These are modern, high quality machines, not 60s or 70s (ok, maybe some are newer) designs that are copied by Chinese companies with limited design capabilities. I also have a Hypertherm 30XP. Yes, it's expensive, but it just runs and runs and runs. Seems that the consumables last forever, it seems to be capable of far more than they claim, and again, looks like a totally modern and ultra high quality product with the covers removed. I too made the mistake of running it without a ground for several minutes. The result? It just shuts down. No explosions, no problem. This is good design. Then there's the question of service. While Miller, Hypertherm and Lincoln all have dealer networks that can provide service (and HTP has a great reputation for support...but the machines seem to be totally bulletproof), Everlast doesn't. If your Miller or Lincoln welder breaks you just bring it to a local repair facility. Easy. Everlast claims a 5 year warranty, but if you read it you find that it's almost worthless. You have to pay to send the machine to them and back, then they can decide to not fix your machine and give you however much money THEY decide it's worth instead of fixing it...at their discretion. There's just very little there there. While you may be saving a few hundred dollars on the purchase price you are buying essentially throw away equipment. I won't go into the "other" virtues of buying something from Hypertherm or Miller or Lincoln because for some it just doesn't matter. Instead, let's just talk about value, and frankly while Chinese stuff may have made some sense a few years ago the competition has really surpassed them. Bottom line is this. In my opinion any home "maker" would be wise to do as Jimmy Diresta or Jody Collier did. Buy high quality equipment from a reputable supplier with a dealer/repair network. What's crazy is that Lincoln recently offered both the 210MP and the matching AC/DC TIG machine for 2 grand! Even not on sale they're about $2.6k. There are other great options from Miller and HTP. Based on this pricing it would be crazy to bother with the green machines. While at some point in the past the Everlast machines made economic sense, with the recent Lincoln/Miller/HTP/ESAB designs these remarketed generic Chinese machines with essentially no service infrastructure just don't make any sense. Yes, it's a nice green color, but what's under the covers is pretty mediocre.
forgot to mention that neither the Lincoln, HTP or Hypertherm units have had any warranty issues whatsoever. All 3 have been used a lot and just run flawlessly
Thanks for the disect Dan. I haven't bought any weldinggear in quite awhile and was kind of excited about the Everlast because it was a great price point for an inverter. I have to tell you though, I have and old ESAB migmaster 250. I bought it gooing on 15 years ago. Got it in a plant shutdown. It was a package with an LN25 and a 400 power source. I even found most of a track cutter and a subarc buried on the bottom.$200. for the lot. Use the Mig on and off, replaced the liner a few times....(usually from getting bumped.) I want something cleaner and a little more portable. I'm thinking the new ESAB rebel line or and good old Linclon....I hear Miller is building some good stuff too. That's the direction my budddy at Airgas is pushing me anyway.
Dan Grassetti well said, I am in the market for a Mig, stick machine and was seriously considering Everlasting, but now I will be taking a closer look at Htp.
Buyer beware... I am a life time welder... recently bought an Everlast TIG welder for the home hobby shop and while the welder may be good (remains to be seen) the accessories are not. In short order the Argon hose blew out and the regulator leaks at the gage fitting. Basic China quality.
sorry, you don't know where welding channels are lost to young boys. I don't know the name of the channel, it had something like 1992 and some name before that. he was in the USA, he had a lot of everlast welding machines there
Seems like their customer service is good, but problems with 3 out of 4 isn't exactly selling me on them. I've had both older american made machines and new imports and it seems like you have to be really careful what you buy either way.
i am having problems with my everlast welder it wont feed wire. i got it 2 weeks ago it work just fine. now it wont feed. any idea what i can do. i havent call the company yet
Glad you clarified your relationship. I was worried you sold out and wouldn't give a good,honest review. Those repair times in this day and age are on the poor side. Suppose that's the cost of a cheaper machine than a blue or red one..
thanks for reply Jimbo. I love your content. just getting into welding. I'm in so cal Riverside area. ever need an extra hand would love to help to learn
I have an Everlast PowerTIG 185. It's been flawless. I will say, however, that hearing you say that it took 4 months to get the machine back from warranty seems very excessive. That's a bummer. Glad they honored it, but 4 months, not all that acceptable to me. In my mind they should be sending a new unit to you immediately with an RMA to return the defective one.
Thanks for the reviews. I've been considering the 210. But you didnt have very good odds with all of the issues you had. Not sure if i'll go this route. Although this is just for around the house, I dont want to have to deal with all you went through.
I agree, 3 out of 4 with problems, 75%. I think the "hope they last" engineers should have anticipated an open ground on the plasma machine. I personally have problems with human error and I made the same mistake with my old Thermal Dynamics machine without a catastrophic failure. I tried to order an Everlast machine for 5 days straight to get the black Friday discount. Whenever I called the sales line a gal would answer and say everyone was busy and they would call me back. After doing more research I'm so thankful they couldn't take an order.
I have a power ultra 205p multi process Tig/stick/plasma and it works awesome. before I bought mine I did a lot of research on the low cost Chinese welders and this seemed to be the best. the quality control on these welders is not great so I recommend opening the case and checking for loose connections and screws before using it the first time.
Have the 210EXT, have had absolutely NO issues from day one. Wonderful TIG machine. Had it for about a year now. Debating whether to upgrade to 325EXT or Fronius magicwave 230i(about a $2000 difference) not many people have the fronius for that reason, comparible prices with Miller, and less known. But everlast is best bang for buck, and I dont see any issues so far. Thanks jimbo for unbiased opinion
You can buy a red or a blue machine if you know what I mean... But Everlast stands behind their product 100% at 1/3 of the cost and to me thats all that matters with a 5 year backing if after that and it dies its going in the dumpster.
Ok - I like your video(s) and while I don't own an Everlast now I may sometime get one, probably the 210EXT model. I currently am using an 2nd generation AHP 200DX and so far have had no problems. Where is some wood to knock on!! Funny you commented on the High-Freq. I bought a used 210EXT about 1 year ago on eBay and guess what was out. I got a HF card, installed it, turned it on, tried to weld and noticed a flash inside the welder and a generous cloud of smoke issued from it. One might think it was installed wrong, but I did service on laser printers before I retired so I am fairly sure it went in correctly. Guess something down deeper was at fault. About the ground clamp not being connected: I would not blame myself for that one. One will forget it, or it may fall off, or get knocked off and the machine should not self destruct! That is faulty engineering in my opinion.
Thanks for watching Tom, Sorry to hear about your HF card, Hope you got it everything working right now. And maybe the ground clamp wasn't the problem, But it sure seemed like it was?. Jimbos garage!
What else have you welded with. I always thought that there was an American branch for repaire, Now I know why I keep getting the repaire department in Oakville Ontario. At least US buyers get a year warrenty. We only get a 3 year warranty.
Jimbo- Appreciate your honest review of Everlast equipment. Though there are mixed reviews, I am not sold nor refuse to purchase/support Everlast equipment. I lean towards a more popular, "lets say" equip ie: Miller, and Ive even had issues with their brand new equipment more than once. Customer service can be hit or miss, so I still stand neutral on all brands. Just my two bits-
Most machines today even though they say made in USA are affiliated with China and or Mexico in some way. I'm currently using htp machines right now! Jimbos garage!
Do you find that TIG welding is typically used on your projects which require thin metal stock and or aluminum when requested.? Did you get your welder fixed or did you sell it off?
I've never heard anything but good things from Everlast. I don't own one but would like to. I have a Klutch multiprocess from Northern Tool and love it. I did buy one of those cheap plasma cutter from Amazon and it has been a beast! It has cut everything I've needed including 1/2 inch plate!
Thanks for watching Aaron, Yes Everlast is a pretty good machine for the price point!, However for a few bucks more any of the HTP machines are better! Jimbos garage!
I got the new HTP catalog after watching your video. I have been looking at the MIG 200 and 2400. I'm a big fan of pulse welding! I've watched Chucke2009 use one on his channel. He also uses the Everlast brand of welders. Great channel Jimbo! Thanks!
Failures on 3 out of 4. You had to fix 2 yourself to avoid shipping and waiting a LONG time for repairs, like you did with the other. I don't think I would buy Everlast for professional use.
Thanks for watching Charles, Your right if i did welding professionally i would not rely on Everlast. but for the weekender or hobbist. Not bad for the price point. Jimbos garage!
I presume you sold the MIG welder when you got the HTC. I presume you went HTC because of its performance both in shop and remote welding correct. The Everlast was just a shop welder correct? Did you replace or sell off the Stick Welder now that you are using the HTC mostly?
No more issues anymore right with your Everlast machines? I watched your review on all the Everlast machines and it seemed you had some issues though most were due to shipping. I want to buy a new welder very soon and decided to start with a MIG machine. As per brand the most important thing for me is great performance followed with excellent service and reliability. I want to purchase from a company who is going to be around and also can be serviced local not needing to ship out a welder for repair or service. So far in the Salt Lake City area of Utah no one sells Everlast or HTC. All do sell both Miller and Lincoln machines. One said, " HTC, don't they make cell phones?" LOL.
I think Mig is your best option, The htp offers Mig and pulse Mig along with aluminum and other metals, And has a lift arc Tig as well. I will have my good friend Peter Zila chime in, He might be able to inform you a little better on this machine.
James Day Lincoln is as American as General Electric. May be assembled and sold in usa, but thats about it. I'm picking up on what ur putting down about usa, but lets be honest..
How are those everlast holding up 3 years later?
Between you and Chuckee2009 mostly, and some here and there reviews, I bought my first welder from Everlast. Its just the little 140st but i love it so far. Watching your videos and this review of the power imig205, I've decided that will be my next purchase. I've used "Red and Blue" and Everlast seems to be giving them a run for their money. Thanks for great videos. I love watching and learning from ya fella. Keep em comin!
My first welder as an everlast 140st. Great little welder. I've a couple of its bigger brothers and a plasma cutter since. It's pretty much the entire family now!
Great video! Really helpful to hear a honest review. Even with the issues the price makes it a winner especially for the weekend warrior\ hobby welder (although you're pretty much a full time welder). The blue and red ones sure are great machines but when welding doesn't make you money it's hard to justify the price and from what I've seen from my local welding shop the service isn't a factor (but that's not true at every shop).
Good informative video Jimbo. I would love to try welding and someday plan to. One geography lesson though...Everlast comes out of Burlington, Ontario, Canada, which is on the western side of Toronto. This is in no way considered northern Canada. It's like saying San Diego is northern California. I won't hold it against you though. ;)
Love the videos mate but how is it your fault that the machine blew up? Not having the return lead hooked up should not cause that at all.
Thanks for watching Dave, I Don't know? It just seemed like it was. Jimbos garage!
I really agree. Forgetting to attach the ground lead has to be a pretty common thing to do. A properly designed machine should have detected the error before damaging itself.
I don't understand what happened to Jimbo. I've forgotten to connect the return lead many times on my everlast plasma and have never had any issues like this.
My Lincoln Idealarc 250 burns 3/8 7018 deep into 3/8" steel all day long non stop at 95 amps. I like some of these Chinese welders but they all exaggerate their power and duty cycle.
I spoke with an oleg from Everlast yesterday in California. He was rude enough for me to hangup. The site said 809 for the 206pi. He told me that was an old price and I should refresh my cookies and I'll see the full price. Apparently the site was running a 10 percent promo or something I couldn't understand coming from oleg's mouth. I proceeded to ask if he could get an approval for the price in an email which he already had. He then told me he would not bug his manager unless I was ready to purchase while on the phone. I had clearly started the conversation stating I was shopping around and comparing all the multi function machines. I'm still hunting to replace a 25 year old century unit. Great videos though.
Thanks for watching rywolf01, Ya they don't have the best customer service, Try HTP, They are really good over there. Jimbos garage!
Hi Jim. Thanks for your video. I know its an older video now (4 years old at the time of this post). Do you have any updates to your experiences with Everlast support? Do you have any instances where you have needed repairs done to the machines since the video? If so - what types of issues and did you opt to do the repairs/replacements with supplied parts or did you send any machines in?
Where did you get the carts for your welders?
this video is before HTP came on board Jim
Hello Jim, That was certainly not your fault. My Harbor Freight plasma cutter has lasted fifteen years or more and I have several times lost or forgot to hook up the ground. An open circuit does not cause a fault in the machine. For shame on them. I also feel if you had to wait two weeks for a fan they should have sent a replacement machine. If it happens often then they need to package them better. Again their fault not yours and why should you be repairing a brand new machine? Not good! They just seem to lack credibility. They keep dumping their faults on you. Bad Bad customer service. Risking replacing a computer card in a machine is just asking for problems down the road. If that basic card was bad or installed poorly then what else will fail and most likely after warranty. Pretty dismal story all around. I have an HTP Tig which I haven't used (as I am in the middle of shop construction and the old shop is too crowded to set up a bench) but they seem to handle their customer issues in a better fashion. As well as being right there in southern California for you. Take care. Doug
Thanks for watching and your comments, Jimbos garage!
Omg these things have a tremendous amount of infant mortality 😵
Geez, every machine has had a problem...that's not very reassuring of their name
Great review on the Everlast Equipment. I've got 2 units myself, 210EXT & i275P. I've also had very good response time when getting support from Everlast. I deal with Everlast Sales in San Francisco, I live on the central coast here in California, so it's usually on a couple of days for anything I buy.
I purchased my Everlast PowerPRO 164Si about a month ago after seeing your machines being used. Love the multi process machine and i'm very happy with my purchase.
Thanks for the information. I really enjoy your videos. Seeing equipment in use and what others think of it is very valuable. I own a Lincoln MIG. I am going to look at an Everlast plasma cutter when I purchase my next machine. Keep up the GREAT work !
I've got an Everlast powermts mig welder and one of their plasma cutters. I couldn't be happier with their performance.
Hello Jimbo. I enjoy your videos and have also bought welding equipment over the past 3 years. I too bought some Everlast stuff, but I've since become convinced that their products aren't all that great and really aren't such a good value.
In watching your videos it seems that most of your equipment has had some sort of failure. Bad fan, failed plasma cutter, failed high frequency start....and power calibration issues on the stick welded. While you are an ideal customer in that you are willing to actually do warranty repairs on your dime, I don't think your experiences with this equipment reflect well on the supplier.
I suspect that part of the reason you did the repairs yourself is that per the Everlast warranty statement, to obtain warranty service one must pay shipping to get the machine to Everlast and back. That's a bunch of money. And then there's the question of having your machine out of service for months. So, they encourage you do warranty work on their machines on your dime. Not so good.
I purchased a 250 EX TIG machine and experienced an intermittent main power switch, so based on our small sample size it's clear there are definitely design/quality issues with this equipment.
But what's more important than the outright quality issues is the underlying reason for them and the un-likelihood that this equipment will run for decades...which is sort of what's expected of welding equipment.
As a tinkerer I always remove the covers of my machines to see what's under the hood. I am a technology manufacturing guy and have been for more than 30 years, so I know a product that is well designed and manufactured when I see it.
The 250 EX is basically an ancient design. Yes, it uses IGBT technology, but the thing is all through-hole components with all analog controls and with build quality that has to be described as hideous. I'd be happy to send you photos. The other thing is that this welder really wasn't all that cheap. Yes, much cheaper than a Miller Dynasty, but this thing is no Miller Dynasty. More than how it was designed and manufactured, there is the question of how it works. Yes, it has 250 AMPs. But none of the controls do exactly what it is that they're supposed to. The pre and post flow timers calibrations aren't correct, the pulse controls are way way off. More importantly, while the thing will weld, it's abilities at the low end of the output scale are just horrible. It can't maintain a low amperage arc, flaring instead.
In short, it's just a really old design that because of the myriad connectors and little boards and the extensive use of solder as a means to carry high amperages, etc. etc....will be unlikely to have a long and happy life. Again, I have run many tech manufacturing operations and I know.
Part of the reason why I can say these things is that I replaced the Everlast machine with an HTP TIG machine....made in Italy. The difference is night and day. The HTP (actually STEL) machine is completely state of the art with all SMT designs, all large components vibration protected, extensive heat dissipation built into the boards, very little cabling, all digital controls that do exactly what they're supposed to, fans that run only when needed, and just so very much better control of the arc. It's really a thing of beauty. Not even close. Then there are the peripherals that come with the machine. A CK Superflex torch rather than the generic Chinese torch that came with the Everlast, the American made foot pedal that works oh so much better than what came with the Everlast. Again, a picture is worth a thousand words and I'd be happy to send you photos.
In short, while the Everlast was a few hundred dollars less, it was worth far, far less.
While I've not owned an Everlast MIG or stick machine I also own a Lincoln 210 MP. Removing the covers from the Lincoln reveals a thoroughly modern machine that will likely run forever. It does a fine job for both MIG and stick (the HTP machine is a phenomenal stick welder in addition to TIG), it runs on 120 or 240, and it cost $1,200.
I just can't fathom why someone would buy an Everlast machine over this or the Miller 211/215. While Everlast is basically a reseller of Chinese machines with essentially no engineering capabilities, Lincoln, Miller, and STEL actually design (and build) their machines. These are modern, high quality machines, not 60s or 70s (ok, maybe some are newer) designs that are copied by Chinese companies with limited design capabilities.
I also have a Hypertherm 30XP. Yes, it's expensive, but it just runs and runs and runs. Seems that the consumables last forever, it seems to be capable of far more than they claim, and again, looks like a totally modern and ultra high quality product with the covers removed. I too made the mistake of running it without a ground for several minutes. The result? It just shuts down. No explosions, no problem. This is good design.
Then there's the question of service. While Miller, Hypertherm and Lincoln all have dealer networks that can provide service (and HTP has a great reputation for support...but the machines seem to be totally bulletproof), Everlast doesn't. If your Miller or Lincoln welder breaks you just bring it to a local repair facility. Easy.
Everlast claims a 5 year warranty, but if you read it you find that it's almost worthless. You have to pay to send the machine to them and back, then they can decide to not fix your machine and give you however much money THEY decide it's worth instead of fixing it...at their discretion. There's just very little there there. While you may be saving a few hundred dollars on the purchase price you are buying essentially throw away equipment.
I won't go into the "other" virtues of buying something from Hypertherm or Miller or Lincoln because for some it just doesn't matter. Instead, let's just talk about value, and frankly while Chinese stuff may have made some sense a few years ago the competition has really surpassed them.
Bottom line is this. In my opinion any home "maker" would be wise to do as Jimmy Diresta or Jody Collier did. Buy high quality equipment from a reputable supplier with a dealer/repair network. What's crazy is that Lincoln recently offered both the 210MP and the matching AC/DC TIG machine for 2 grand! Even not on sale they're about $2.6k. There are other great options from Miller and HTP. Based on this pricing it would be crazy to bother with the green machines.
While at some point in the past the Everlast machines made economic sense, with the recent Lincoln/Miller/HTP/ESAB designs these remarketed generic Chinese machines with essentially no service infrastructure just don't make any sense. Yes, it's a nice green color, but what's under the covers is pretty mediocre.
forgot to mention that neither the Lincoln, HTP or Hypertherm units have had any warranty issues whatsoever. All 3 have been used a lot and just run flawlessly
Thanks for watching and your feed back Dan, You will be seeing a HTP in the shop here soon. Jimbos garage!
you'll be impressed.
Thanks for the disect Dan. I haven't bought any weldinggear in quite awhile and was kind of excited about the Everlast because it was a great price point for an inverter. I have to tell you though, I have and old ESAB migmaster 250. I bought it gooing on 15 years ago. Got it in a plant shutdown. It was a package with an LN25 and a 400 power source. I even found most of a track cutter and a subarc buried on the bottom.$200. for the lot. Use the Mig on and off, replaced the liner a few times....(usually from getting bumped.) I want something cleaner and a little more portable. I'm thinking the new ESAB rebel line or and good old Linclon....I hear Miller is building some good stuff too. That's the direction my budddy at Airgas is pushing me anyway.
Dan Grassetti well said, I am in the market for a Mig, stick machine and was seriously considering Everlasting, but now I will be taking a closer look at Htp.
Thanks for the review Jimbo. Gonna make that Powerarc my next welder.
Buyer beware... I am a life time welder... recently bought an Everlast TIG welder for the home hobby shop and while the welder may be good (remains to be seen) the accessories are not. In short order the Argon hose blew out and the regulator leaks at the gage fitting. Basic China quality.
sorry, you don't know where welding channels are lost to young boys. I don't know the name of the channel, it had something like 1992 and some name before that. he was in the USA, he had a lot of everlast welding machines there
Seems like their customer service is good, but problems with 3 out of 4 isn't exactly selling me on them. I've had both older american made machines and new imports and it seems like you have to be really careful what you buy either way.
i am having problems with my everlast welder it wont feed wire. i got it 2 weeks ago it work just fine. now it wont feed. any idea what i can do. i havent call the company yet
Glad you clarified your relationship. I was worried you sold out and wouldn't give a good,honest review. Those repair times in this day and age are on the poor side. Suppose that's the cost of a cheaper machine than a blue or red one..
Good video, thanks for sharing your experiences honestly!
thanks for reply Jimbo. I love your content. just getting into welding. I'm in so cal Riverside area. ever need an extra hand would love to help to learn
I have an Everlast PowerTIG 185. It's been flawless. I will say, however, that hearing you say that it took 4 months to get the machine back from warranty seems very excessive. That's a bummer. Glad they honored it, but 4 months, not all that acceptable to me. In my mind they should be sending a new unit to you immediately with an RMA to return the defective one.
Thanks for watching Amy, Everlast has a great warranty 5 years, They will repair everything, But won't replace them with new one's. Jimbos garage!
Thanks for the reviews. I've been considering the 210. But you didnt have very good odds with all of the issues you had. Not sure if i'll go this route. Although this is just for around the house, I dont want to have to deal with all you went through.
I agree, 3 out of 4 with problems, 75%. I think the "hope they last" engineers should have anticipated an open ground on the plasma machine. I personally have problems with human error and I made the same mistake with my old Thermal Dynamics machine without a catastrophic failure.
I tried to order an Everlast machine for 5 days straight to get the black Friday discount. Whenever I called the sales line a gal would answer and say everyone was busy and they would call me back. After doing more research I'm so thankful they couldn't take an order.
Another good video Jim, thank you what Is your opinion of Lincoln or Miller??
Thanks for watching Gil, Good machines! Jimbos garage!
Thanks for the unvarnished review. When folks pay full retail, it carries more weight when they answer the question: "Would you buy it again?"
Thanks for watching , Yes i would. Jimbos garage!
thanks for replying back. really enjoy watching
I have a power ultra 205p multi process Tig/stick/plasma and it works awesome. before I bought mine I did a lot of research on the low cost Chinese welders and this seemed to be the best. the quality control on these welders is not great so I recommend opening the case and checking for loose connections and screws before using it the first time.
4 years later how is she runnin
100-115 is about correct for a 1/8 7018
I see the hack did;nt slow you down!!
Have the 210EXT, have had absolutely NO issues from day one. Wonderful TIG machine. Had it for about a year now. Debating whether to upgrade to 325EXT or Fronius magicwave 230i(about a $2000 difference) not many people have the fronius for that reason, comparible prices with Miller, and less known. But everlast is best bang for buck, and I dont see any issues so far. Thanks jimbo for unbiased opinion
ON my Hypertherm many times I forgot to hook up the ground clamp. I'm surprised the Everlast blew up from that.
Thanks for watching Ken, Ya i don't know if that was the problem but it seemed like it was. Jimbo!
So 3 out of 4 machines took a shit on you?
You can buy a red or a blue machine if you know what I mean... But Everlast stands behind their product 100% at 1/3 of the cost and to me thats all that matters with a 5 year backing if after that and it dies its going in the dumpster.
I have a everlast 250ex works great .
I bought the MTS211Si a few years ago, it's worked good so far!
It's hard to beat the price of some of this equipment.
Thanks for watching Moe. Ya for your average welder not bad. Jimbo!
I don't think it'd your fault. they sound problematic
I bought one. They should be paying someone to develop a useful manual and put out some videos.
Ok - I like your video(s) and while I don't own an Everlast now I may sometime get one, probably the 210EXT model. I currently am using an 2nd generation AHP 200DX and so far have had no problems. Where is some wood to knock on!!
Funny you commented on the High-Freq. I bought a used 210EXT about 1 year ago on eBay and guess what was out. I got a HF card, installed it, turned it on, tried to weld and noticed a flash inside the welder and a generous cloud of smoke issued from it. One might think it was installed wrong, but I did service on laser printers before I retired so I am fairly sure it went in correctly. Guess something down deeper was at fault.
About the ground clamp not being connected: I would not blame myself for that one. One will forget it, or it may fall off, or get knocked off and the machine should not self destruct! That is faulty engineering in my opinion.
Thanks for watching Tom, Sorry to hear about your HF card, Hope you got it everything working right now. And maybe the ground clamp wasn't the problem, But it sure seemed like it was?. Jimbos garage!
Don't carbon arc gouge with that powerarc300 you'll fry it
What else have you welded with. I always thought that there was an American branch for repaire, Now I know why I keep getting the repaire department in Oakville Ontario.
At least US buyers get a year warrenty. We only get a 3 year warranty.
Thanks for watching, I have an old miller that work great still. You will be seeing a HTP here in the shop soon! Jimbos garage!
Jimbo- Appreciate your honest review of Everlast equipment. Though there are mixed reviews, I am not sold nor refuse to purchase/support Everlast equipment. I lean towards a more popular, "lets say" equip ie: Miller, and Ive even had issues with their brand new equipment more than once. Customer service can be hit or miss, so I still stand neutral on all brands. Just my two bits-
Most machines today even though they say made in USA are affiliated with China and or Mexico in some way. I'm currently using htp machines right now! Jimbos garage!
Do you find that TIG welding is typically used on your projects which require thin metal stock and or aluminum when requested.? Did you get your welder fixed or did you sell it off?
I use it for a lot of material and sizes, I still have it. Jimbos garage!
reveiew the weldpro mig 200 please
Yea but why would someone who's not mechanically inclined have a welder😂😂
Thanks for watching Tim, Lol,Lol, Ya your right. Jimbos garage!
sounds like everlast is not so good ?
what do you think about everlast 3 in one unit?? im looking to get a mig/tig/stick.
Thanks for watching Mike. I don't have one, But i hear they work good! Jimbos garage!
I've never heard anything but good things from Everlast. I don't own one but would like to. I have a Klutch multiprocess from Northern Tool and love it. I did buy one of those cheap plasma cutter from Amazon and it has been a beast! It has cut everything I've needed including 1/2 inch plate!
Thanks for watching Aaron, Yes Everlast is a pretty good machine for the price point!, However for a few bucks more any of the HTP machines are better! Jimbos garage!
I got the new HTP catalog after watching your video. I have been looking at the MIG 200 and 2400. I'm a big fan of pulse welding! I've watched Chucke2009 use one on his channel. He also uses the Everlast brand of welders. Great channel Jimbo! Thanks!
yo!!! this thing worken??
Where did you purchase your everlast equipment from?
Thanks for watching Brad, On there web site. Jimbos garage!
Failures on 3 out of 4. You had to fix 2 yourself to avoid shipping and waiting a LONG time for repairs, like you did with the other. I don't think I would buy Everlast for professional use.
Thanks for watching Charles, Your right if i did welding professionally i would not rely on Everlast. but for the weekender or hobbist. Not bad for the price point. Jimbos garage!
I presume you sold the MIG welder when you got the HTC. I presume you went HTC because of its performance both in shop and remote welding correct. The Everlast was just a shop welder correct? Did you replace or sell off the Stick Welder now that you are using the HTC mostly?
I still have all my Everlast machines. Jimbos garage!
No more issues anymore right with your Everlast machines? I watched your review on all the Everlast machines and it seemed you had some issues though most were due to shipping. I want to buy a new welder very soon and decided to start with a MIG machine. As per brand the most important thing for me is great performance followed with excellent service and reliability. I want to purchase from a company who is going to be around and also can be serviced local not needing to ship out a welder for repair or service. So far in the Salt Lake City area of Utah no one sells Everlast or HTC. All do sell both Miller and Lincoln machines. One said, " HTC, don't they make cell phones?" LOL.
If you have a few extra bucks i would recommend the htp over the Everlast. The Pro Pulse 200 is by far the best machine i have ever used.
Thank you Jimbo! One more question do you feel it is best to go MIG verses TIG and stick weld for quick welding?
I think Mig is your best option, The htp offers Mig and pulse Mig along with aluminum and other metals, And has a lift arc Tig as well. I will have my good friend Peter Zila chime in, He might be able to inform you a little better on this machine.
try Lincoln. never had a problem. made in USA
James Day Lincoln is as American as General Electric. May be assembled and sold in usa, but thats about it. I'm picking up on what ur putting down about usa, but lets be honest..