Turner and Constable: Who was the greater artist?
Вставка
- Опубліковано 20 вер 2024
- Art historian Jacky Klein takes a look at two new exhibitions in London, celebrating two great British artists and their later work: Turner at Tate Britain and Constable at the V&A.
www.artfund.org...
www.artfund.org...
Get 50% off both exhibitions with the National Art Pass: www.artfund.org...
Film by Northern Town: www.northerntow...
This woman is supremely worthy to be immortalized on canvas... ❤
You're absolutely right.... Good evening how are you doing over there hope you're having a wonderful day it's a lovely day that the lord has made
Wow, I'm only coming across this video now in 2024. How I would love to have seen both of these amazing exhibitions back to back!
How on earth can you compare these two great artists???
i wouldn t dare to decide who is the better painter......but watching mr. turners pictures makes me shiver, overwhelming reactions of my eyes and senses. .
You just answered the question than. Of course Turner. The purpose of art is exactly what you described. Emotion.
There's a painting, a painter, a luv constable, history. The plaque is 1802 for sale.
In my humble opinion, I like them both, each one is good in what they done, no one is better them other...
I adore Constable with his stylish British painting of landscape.
To Turner he was a Master in watercolor painting, in oil painting too, by his atmospheric effects in seascapes.
I love Constable and his rural English settings.
So do I... and I love English countryside!
Late Turner...! TRUTH..PURE EMOTION X
I love constable, but turner is actually the only artist whose work literally causes my jaw to drop when i see it in real life
I reserve the adjective "epic" for few artists. Turner is one of them.
I feel the same but for Constable, I could spend days in the national gallery admiring their work.
BOTH are equally great... if I had a Turner and Constable, I would have them in different rooms to evoke a feeling I want at any particular moment...
Constable is my fav
Why compare Turner and Constable by asking which one is greater? This sort of critique/analysis is unnecessary. Art is about much more than, "who is greater?". Their work is a reflection of their own creative expression. It has nothing to do with petty competition. Food for thought.
Totally agree Dominic.
@@TheLoneWolf_1013 Found the guy who's jealous of my art.
Both are great artists !
There is greater emotion in Turner’s art portraying the Industrial Revolution. That period was so dark & loathsome. Turner’s art captures the beautiful natural world before it but also the oncoming bleakness of Industrialism in its steamers & machines. He did very good work at contrasting those two different worlds using color emotion, he showed such happiness & bliss mixed with a kind of uncertain, dark power emerging.
But Constable is my favorite 💗💗💗 I love the quiet passion at the center of them, you know he put extra soul in his works as they were very personal spots he frequented & probably come to fear losing the bliss & serenity he’d grown to love in them against a world growing louder & darker. He quite literally painted his heart’s longings. Maybe Constable had a deeper appreciation for that romantic, natural world where nature was superior to man & caused great spirituality to the individual, so I love the way he kept that world without machinery and division forever in color. 🎨 🖼️ 💐
Turner’s character & beliefs come out in his work on the other hand as somebody who might have believed in that new world of industrial power & was accepting of the change whether for better or worse, so I admire Constable for remaining stubborn in his natural world closer to a Higher power of nature & beauty & not really capturing the darkness that was emerging at the time. I would have very much liked to stay in the solitude of a world without factories & corruption polluting the air & soul too. & that’s what I feel of Constable’s character just seeing his paintings. I am a romantic after all so this is biased of course, but both artists were amazing.
I love some of Turners paintings yet it is & always will be Constable for me.. i feel pulled in completely by his work & even as a child i would look into his art for long periods of time & i could hear the atmosphere where i would be hypnotised into being there with him through his eyes.
why such issues raise
let us enjoy & understand art !
It’s called critical assessment.
@@angela8858 it's childish crap.
Never understood this kind of approach.
Once will win and the other works will be destroyed. 😂
If people take it so serious that's what they have to do.
Thanks for sharing this. I enjoyed it and wished it was longer as with all the lock downs, election insanity (USA) and lots of folks sick w covid on the second wave here - i get a little testie and an art museum is my truly favorite get away. God blessed the world with the V&A !! I LOVE Turner, no one else has put me in the middle of the angry sea or made me cry while looking on a lonely sunset, no one.
Sunt geniali amândoi! Unul pt puterea sugestiei, celălalt pt evidențierea detaliului. Nu poți decreta valoarea, poți admira frumosul, reușita artistică.
i grew up in east anglia and love Constable
Did you ever meet Ian Mcshane?
I would love to have seen Constable do some of his major works of epic scenes in Europe like the well travelled Turner. Both artists are amazing but I prefer the best of Constables work
I saw a collection of Turner's paintings about 35 paintings about 5 years ago in a Dallas art museum and believe me Turner was the greatest landscape painter of the 19th century.
Definitely!
@@ufosrus I saw Turner again at the Ft. Worth- Kimbell art museum (exhibition) 8 months ago and my assessment has changed a little I think I appreciate Constable more. There were some Turner's that were to impressionistic for me and slightly abstract. He paints the best sun but all those other atmospheric additions, take away and doesn't add to.
such a silly question
Whoever is better I am very thankful we had both
Constable painted the everyday; Turner painted events. Even his pure landscapes or seascapes seem to be natural events. Together, they chronicled the quotidian and the extraordinary. In Constable the present recedes into nostalgia; in Turner, it rushes off into uncertainty like a runaway train. Constable painted the idyll of English life facing within while Turner painted the whirlwind of England facing the world.
Yes i am back to say… lovely video, Turner wins and the host of this video is delectable far and beyond ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
I'll take Turner any day
You can't compare them, they were coming from totally different places
+Olivia Giles Landscape painters from literally the same time and place. You sure as shit can.
Dois grandes artistas. Sou muito fã dos dois. Amo desenhar e sou muito influenciado por esses dois artistas gigantes William Turner e Jhon Constable, assim também como Benjamin William leader, Thomas Moran. Meu sonho é conhecer um museu desses. Ver bem de perto as obras desses artistas maravilhosos. Fico até sem palavras.... Simplesmente amo....
Was there really a "rivalry" back in the day? I think people at the time just liked to see both. It's like when people pretend there is a rivalry between the Japanese Katana and the European Longsword, and then say the Katana is better because it's more popular. It's nonsense, in Holland we say: You're comparing apples with pears, there is no winner.
There was an extreme rivalry as evidence by all of the writings about each other and the fights and public disputes they had written about by other artists in the academy. Not everything is some conspiracy you weirdo human!
This woman is extremely eclectic, hypnotising and beautiful....... if i may.... 🙏
Maravillosos tanto Constable como Turner cada uno un estilo diferente , personal, sus Obras son muy Bellas
Y no es justo que los comparen!
For me personally Turner is better by miles. Greater understanding of light, perspective.. braver in his approach.. always in search of something greater. When Constable tried expressionism he failed. When turner tried realism he succeeded. But practice makes perfect and Constable really perfected his own style.
One transcended and uplifted man's perspective, one tried to depict man's reality. Turner depicted his sensations as a natural visceral reaction, Constable depicted his parochial outlook. One arose in a working man's world as a barbers son, the other a landed gentry product. I think Constable would have voted for Brexit, Turner would have preferred to make the world his own and voted for inclusiveness. Almost certainly those that prefer Constable have strong conservative leanings. Turner is greater as he opens the window to a transcendent vision.
For me there is no comparison... for one, they approached it very very differently!!! And secondly, Turner is one of the few greatest there have ever been-- he can measure up to anybody!!!
nicely presented thank you
Stop comparing artists by who is better or best. Both offer so much to observe... enjoy the art
Linda pintura de constable , inspiração para todos nós artistas plásticos 🇧🇷🌞🎁🎻🌞🌍🇧🇷🎺
Impossible decision. I adore them both.
Turner used a lot of dodgy materials, so we can't really see them in the glory they once were; Constable I feel, is the better craftsman and took his time to produce the
'' english air '' which I find more believable.
Turner was not attempting to produce the "English air". Turner's paintings of Venice and Rome are unsurpassed.
Thanks!
My own favourite artists are Turner and Vermeer, very different! Constable was great of course.
Both masters in their own playgrounds.... but for me? Turner, baby..... Turner.....
I fucking love Constable
They really were so different, almost opposites in their approach to art. Turner was the great versatile innovator producing works way before his time designed to break down solid forms in light that well anticipated, and arguably even dramatically bettered Impressionism; on the other hand Constable was a very wonderful naturalistic landscape perfectionist - it is invidious to see them as in competition, both were geniuses in their own artistic fields
They are both marvelous in their own way, we can all learn from them we can all certainly enjoy them both. The tranquility of Constable is needed after the power of Turner, and lets not forget Turner had his tranquillity also. I love looking at both their works.
Given that their genre’s were mostly different…it’s a little illogical and childish to decide who is the ‘better’ artist…
For me Turner found true freedom without restraints and went awol… love his work!!!!
I prefer, Turner
Wooow meraviglia
Aaah..the joy of critics..bereft of artist ability giving their opinions..and Billionaires gambling on the Next Trend. But I guess that what art IS.... for some. As an Artist..Turner wins..Hands Down. It's a Very Personal Response. Turners 'Snowstorm' is the PERFECT piece of Art...for ME. because I feel it's something we are ALL scared to Admit.
One painted rural England and the other painted industrial England. Let their individual art exist.
I don't know who was the "greatest", and generally I don't like the whole concept of league tables and rankings. Isn't it enough that both were great? Having said that my own personal choice is Turner.
both are great genius but Turner is for me the best.
I like them both but I prefer Turner.
If you go by merit ,length of career and the ground breaking techniques... Turner is in a class by himself. Even Constable conceded that point.
I could listen to her all day.
Constable was a master of what he put in. Turner was a master of what he left out.
Both suffered from overworking the final canvases; both made glorious sketches and studies rivaling Monet. Turner's compositions seem odd, especially in his late famed "first abstract expressionist" explosions, but the color mixing is revolutionary. Constable over-composed, but subjects were less melodramatic pastoral scenes considered inferior to the grandiloquence of the period's High Art. They created a context in contrast to each other, and for viewers to consider what they wanted artworks to provide. I could live with small studies by either, but maybe large paintings by neither.
+z1522 You're telling me stuff like 'Hannibal and His Army Crossing the Alps' or 'The Decline of the Carthaginian Empire' were Turner's inferior works? I'd argue Turner was at his best when he was painting big, he was a pioneer of blending drama and nature together to create, as you put it, "melodramatic grandiloquence", which elevated landscape painting to a position of High Art. Constable as well was a fine small painter, but his most famous works are large canvas, e.g 'The Hay Wain' and 'The Opening of Waterloo Bridge'. You might say "over-composed", but Constable was about conjuring pastoral nostalgia, his whole deal was capturing an idyllic moment, so the composition is going to be precise. And one of Constable's main signatures was his fine detail, so by that case I'm not sure you could argue he "overworked" the final canvas either.
Monet was a Pygmy compared these two artists
Turner. For me ...All the way..passion
.perfection xxx
no need to compare them but it is inevitable
The greatest painting The Haywain, the greater artist Turner.
Turner all the way.
Why compare ? One thrills the heart. The other in beauty thrills history. I think this a stupid comparison.
Constable took photographs, Turner created.
" and Pilate said, 'what is truth?'"
I saw them both and I love them both. To me it's like comparing Whitney Houston and Mariah Carey. I love them both. Whitney is like Turner: the drama queen sticking to one technique or style (she never wrote a song) and everything is emotion and lots of it. Mariah is like Constable: the virtuous artist studying every minute detail of techniques and processes (Constable studied Michelangelo's and Da Vinci's books on painting techniques until he mastered them). Pity one cannot paint a duet but only sing one!!
(Verdict: Mariah/ Constable is/are the greater artists for their versatility and technique.)
I don't know how you can compare either of those screeching ninnies to some of the greatest art that has ever been produced 😂
Wow
Great commercial vid...:)
Turner
Constable is the best Artist by far
I guess I missed the show it’s 2024
Both… Both were top! … Constable was so English somehow… A “poet”and in his way the greater rebel.
Turner was ahead of his time.
Both are geniuses but for me it is Turner
Turner!
Turner ❤️
Why ask?
Talking heads standing in front of the paintings. No full paintings except blurry long shots usinng less than a quarter of the screen (the talking heads are the only full-screen shots allowed here) There are clear full-screen shots of these paintings online...she just does not care to show you them. What a waste.
Honestly, where Constable was an amazing painter, Turner made painting extraordinary with a style of his own, inventing a movement in itself… so i think Turner was the better artist. Constable images tend to be a bit too ordinary and somehow boring. If we compare Constable and lets say Claude Lorrain, yet again i think Lorrains paintings are more interesting but i feel for John
turner
constable
Nice try. Constable is good. But obviously Turner is far superior.
Turner is simply a more exciting, vigorous, and varied painter than Constable, both in subject matter and in life-long stylistic variety and career trajectory. Which is certainly not to say that Constable is any less beautiful, or acute in observation. They both have unique visions. But I think Turner's rapid progression as an artist best reflects their age and its accelleration. I would probably be more comfortable and gratified spending an afternoon in Constable's company, but I would be more challenged and considerably less comfortable trying to keep up with Turner. And therein lies the difference.
1:39
艺术元素饱满
Is this a competition and the loser will have his work destroyed?
😂
Absurd. Each is incredible. Totally different approach.
It's not comparing oranges and apples
More like oranges and refrigerators.
But she did choose Constable.
Monet will not admire Turner.
Since Turner is no longer available I'll not go to UK anymore.
I only visited Tate gallery last time.
Both were great but Turner wins it.
Ranking isnt really relevant is it ?
Great point there.😀
Turner. By a mile.
For me its John Constable who is the better Artist 🎨
Flex my suit
Lady, I like wot you are wearing...and you are beautiful...the effect is very ravishing...
Why judge.
Neither
Turner.
Turner or Constable? The greatest? Unanswerable. All of us are better off that both lived & breathed & painted.
Turner is definitely my favourite. Both artists were not that great when it came to drawing figures. It's a bit like comparing chalk and cheese. Constable is dry up against Turner but be has a great eye for detail. Turners work is dramatic and ethereal, which appeals to me more.
Rembrandt van Rijn
Yes,because he is English and a landscape painter
Who was the 'better' artist ? Applying the values of competitive sport to the appreciation of great art is an entirely unworthy and trivial idea - on a par with the Sun newspaper contriving a 'contest' between quite uninteresting pop groups Blur and Oasis. In fact - Turner and Constable had enormous love and respect for each others' work, as did Picasso and Matisse. The concept of competition is nothing to do with the work of artists, who tend to gain inspiration from each others work.
Give us a break, please. During his lifetime, official Britain treated Turner like a dog, because he had no classy background. Yet that man so loved his country, with love never requited. Only when he was recognised by the French artists after his death, and when the Americans started buying his works which often were a butt of jokes at exhibitions, then the British realised they might have something PROFITABLE at hand. Similar with Constable; educated, supertalented but poor, it was when his works were exhibited in Paris Salon & stirred the continental public that he became "Mister Constable". That is all Brits understand - money and rent. When money pours in their pockets through the high rent of under-appreciated real-estate, then they speak "litanies of art". The Brits are as blind as hedgehogs as to what art really is, so they use other senses, like noses, to smell the way where the money hides, or ears, to listen where money rings cashings.
Yeah, that John Ruskin really hated Turner
Okay I'm vaguely offended by this sorta unneeded hatred towards Britains.
Please piss off
Embarrassing! Confected rubbish! For crying out loud.
No comparison!
Turner! No competition!
Constable is so much greater, Turner's paintings are dull in my opinion