Thanks for the vid. Watched it and will watch it when TBC Classic is live. You helped me a lot! I've smite from p1 till p6 in WoW Classic, I'm so excited for TBC.
Thank you for putting this guide together. I've been main smite priest during all of classic, focusing on spell power, hit, crit, intel, but your video makes me want to go spirit! I'm using your set equivalency point config on seventyupgrades, it is super convenient.
Something I've been doing recently is spamming holy nova rank 1 or 2 in aoe situations to proc the free smite and target one strong mob that i can basically smite for free. It's good to equalize HPs in aoe pulls too.
@@pojothefuego9588 Do you have any trick for downranking smite and casting max rank smite only if it's the surge of light one? Waiting to see if it procs makes me lose a lot of time when downranking. I tried to make a macro with max rank, /stopcasting, downrank, but it doesn't work.
Glad to see this. I tried the Smite priest and i had a blast....BUT, because my guild was lacking dps, i was kind of "forced" to get back shadow and tbh, i hate it!!! I love the versatility that this spec offers....you can either dps or just support the healers in case they need help...but the game doesn't really promote or help the "hybrid-support" specs like this one. It's sad...... Imo, it offers an opportunity to people like me, who are not super great dpser or super great healer, to do something useful in raids (support healers, dpsing OK, bringing spirit buff, etc...)..... I struggle a lot atm with my shadow priest for multiple reasons. I think the fact that i hate it so much doesn't help...but if i want to be included in raids with my guild, i don't have a choice atm....
Thanks for the awesome video! There is a shortage of Smite Priest content everywhere, so I glad to see this video. :) I wanted to ask one more question about possible PvP Talent distribution. Is it viable to almost giving up Discipline for 21 points in Shadow (for Blackout and Silence - more control options) and 33 in Holy (for Blessed Resilience)? I saw your BG spec in the comment below and tried to resolve this problem about Silence absence.
I'm glad you liked it! Yeah, there is very few good sources out there for smite. Let alone sources at all. Shoutouts to Priestease who was pioneering the spec 13 years ago! Taking Silence for PvP is absolutely an option and has been seen in smite-weaving priests in classic. TBC Arena this is a very strong choice even sparking some controversy on Endless tournaments as RMP (Rogue Mage Priest) comps were run with the healer using silence creating unbelievable control/CC. The biggest thing I promote is understanding the trade-off through the talent system. Taking the points from Discipline will deny you the buffs and mana sustain from your build. If you sacrifice 21 points from holy you lose burst, base damage, and healing capability. Each build has their with pros and cons. Taking Shadow will make you an offensive juggernaut.
First.. Thank you for this amazing guide!! Pls keep on doing smite priest vids, maybe also pvp. You got a leveling skill order for us you can share? Would be very interesting.
Sorry for the late response! Thank you. While leveling in general or from 60. I fill my Shadow tree first (1 point in life tap) then complete Holy for Surge, then finish in Discipline til PI at 70. hope this helps!
@@anthonyzarfati3579 definetly go whole spirit tap for leveling. Thats the bread an butter. Rotation is like PWS - Holy Fire - Smite - Smite - Smite.... And then you start next mob while you got spirit tap buff. Its DMG buff and Mana regen. And thats how you do it..
I personally was planning on doing Nelf myself because 1. My classic priest is one and i'll just "inherit him" when tbc launches, 2. They're the dude that looks the best in a dress alliance side. and 3. Starshards. Classic Starshards is actually pretty neat because it gives non-shadow priest a viable mana efficient attack to use, but I've never crunched the numbers on tbc starshards. That being said, i'm heavily considering draenei for the extra utility their racials provide. what's basically a free aoe Mana pot every 5 mins is nothing to scoff at.
Ok while I disagree with using spirit tap it still seems really odd that you would opt for 4/5 in FoW & 4/5 in SG rather than going 3/5 & 5/5. The conversion of Spirit to SP is doubly useful if you are going for Spirit Tap since a Spirit tap proc doubles your spirit giving a DPS boost.
Heya! The main problem solving behind choosing spirit tap is to take advantage of both the high spirit value of T4-5 gear and further band-aid the mana struggles as a result of low item levels. Force of Will is certainly a stronger talent as aside from the Crit, the % damage will “bypass” the coefficient wall vs the spellpower gained from spiritual guidance. Many encounters from Kara-Hyjal have boss adds or aoe that allow for passive chances at spirit tap, giving you a sturdy boost compared to the consistent value of SG.
Hi, great video! I have a few questions... Did you know how trinkets like Bangle of Endless Blessings, the Blue Dragon Card, or the Priest T5 class trinket would work out in this spec? I image the spirit on use effect to be great with Spirit Tap. You said the spec would scale well, but can it really keep up with other caster specs in t5 and beyond?
Smite is dirty when min/maxed. Trinkets like Bangle of Endless Blessings and Blue Dragon Card are very worthwhile, and I use them both for long aoe sustain fights, or ones like Prince. (Also PLEASE communicate with your group/healer if you're after the Bangles trinket) Bangles is good in specific fights, I still prefer a dps trinket if the mana can manage. I want to emphasize these trinkets should be healers first in terms of loot prio.
I'm highly considering trying this one. I did Smite Priest a little in Classic WoW but left before I ever really got it off the ground. Do you have any recommendations for a PvP Smite Priest spec? Along with that, which race would be best for PvP?
Hi! In Battleground I used this spec tbcdb.com/talents/index.html?en&priest&5002320133205100501000235051002020152000000000000000000000000000 Lacking the ability in arena to silence greatly concerns me, especially in higher mmr. For race Undead is the best since fears are abundant and sometimes unavoidable even while pillar humping. An alternate choice could also be bloodelf for an instant manaburn (puts targets in combat) while having the ability to silence every two minutes. Hope this helps!
@@pojothefuego9588 Awesome I appreciate the info! Regarding if it was Alliance side, would Draenei be the best choice since they seem to have decent priest racials for PvP and still have their main racials be useful to a raid, so kinda balanced between both? I don't wanna make a Human despite the huge Spirit bonus which would help in PvE. Now I may be a bit greedy here, but while I do want to raid since I never experienced it much in original BC, but I also want to PvP, is there a recommended spec to kinda go in between PvE and PvP roles? Should I just do your PvP spec and deal with whatever I may be missing from the PvE side? Or should I just deal with it and respec as needed?
@@TheFragrantOne Yes! If you are looking for the most balanced race for both contents alliance side, Draenei would be the play. Symbol can be a useful ability vs mana burn comps and Chastise will be a good ranged root to help peel. I'd say Belf are in the same boat for horde but pillars will certainly be your best friends.
@@TheFragrantOne Revisiting to answer your second half of the question. I missed it. Smite doesn't support a PvE and PvP flex option as each build relies on specific talent synergies to function/compete as a spec. You would have to respecc for each content. Giving up your threat talent, ability cost reduction and raid-wide damage buff can make you undesirable for raid groups and create mana issues the spec has been known for in the past.
All I know is My 60 holy priest barely in Outland starting greens do more dps than my 70 rogue with smite. I have mixed feelings about this The levelling is a blast, can solo equal level elite, mad killing speed with spirit tap infinite sustain, of course getting into dungeons as a healer or dps with no problem. I would never thought holy priest as S tier leveler without playing it.
Love the video bro but I’m a little confused. You say how much you love spirit tap but you only put 1 point in it. Why 1 point instead of 5 and if your still leveling like I am (level 64) is 5 points worth it?
Hi! Using spirit tap up to T6 is definitely something I felt was a must-have. The talent doesn’t present enough situations/uptime for more investment that one point, but the dungeons and raid content during those phases had more than enough adds that you could still proc it consistently on 20% chance . The mana and damage bonus helped offset mana issues that were felt in that time, especially on longer fights like Lady Vashj with constant adds. Hope it helps!
Ty for the reply. I can’t wait to get online and try the spec out. Also why only 4/5 spiritual guidance? Why isn’t the extra 5% from taking 5/5 of that talent worth it?
@@deangelobailey5863 Realistically it comes down to preference as both talents come out to nearly identical value. The addition of Angel Form from the spirit talent give it an edge for progressive content. Additional scaling regen alongside spellpower helps sustain, which can become an issue depending on group comp/ability.
@@pojothefuego9588 thanks again bro Im gonna have to try it before I can comment on it but I would imagine if I don’t need anymore survivability I can put an extra point in force of will and spiritual guidance to see how it performs. I always like to stay over leveled anyway and go onto zones with mobs 1 or 2 levels under me to kill them faster. I’m
@@pojothefuego9588 I understand now there’s not enough points to 5/5 those talents but now that I tried it the damage is awesome I’m at twice as much but I have less utility. so cool you could make a damage spec out of a healer class I wish all classes were like that
Hey, good video, man! How did you calculate the stat weights which you used in the "Seventy Upgrades"? I also can't decide on a race. I was a human in WoW Classic. And in TBC I wanted to change the race to drenei. But after your video, I started having doubts. I'm very attracted to the drenei talent that gives a 1% spell hit. I'm not sure if I'll always have ElemSham with me in the group. In WoW Classic I had 12-13% spell hit for a long time and really got tired of missing during boss-fights. Also I think Symbol of Hope gives a lot more mana than 10% of spirit for the same time. So it turns out that humans only have a small boost to spell power? Maybe I'm wrong and 10% of spirit would be very weighty, but I'm very skeptical of spirit as a priority stat in equip... Do you have any experience playing drenei-smite-priest?
Hi, thank you! The stat weights were adapted from my own classic smite build which was more Mp5 based. Short Answer : Human and Draenei work well in high-end content. Spirit is a massive stat that comes from many passive places. Human's personal scaling is unmatched by any race. Draenai, however, bring much more utility to the table. Damage isn't the only metric. Providing 1000 mana to the group (5000 total) is incredibly strong and can merit a raid spot without mention of the 1% hit. Depending how you take advantage of these racials will determine which race is best for you. Both are strong options.
@@pojothefuego9588 I'd love to see a video of your Classic Smite build as well, bro! I imagine you take roughly the same talents just cant go all the way down to the instant Smite. I can't decide if the SP from Spiritual Guidance is better or worse than Force of Will when you have to choose between the two in Classic. I know this isn't a 2.4.3 comment but I love the work you put into Smite, homie! -Aranon
Also, you'd have to give up on PI to take Spiritual Guidance and that's probably too much. Leveling a new character it's probably great to take SG since you can get access to way more spell power than you would find on gear in the mid levels. But for raiding I don't think I you could compete with the loss of Force of Will AND PI.
would suggest to take +2% hit instead of divine spirit and probably one more +2% hit if you're going for boss fights DPS race because spirit tab won't help much unless there are adds
No. All you would do is create a hit inconsistency between your spells. Focused Power ONLY works for Smite and Mindblast. that leaves a 4% hit gap for SWP, Holy Fire, and SWD. Any resists can disturb the dps flow of the spec. As for Divine spirit, this is an essential buff. Not even to mention the spellpower it gives to your group/raid, for your own character this provides 10 mp5 and 17 spellpower alone (non-human). Spirit Tap is an unmovable talent unless I'm speccing for a specific fight. Too many raid bosses have adds.
@@pojothefuego9588 y, you re right in 10 man compo spirit is a must but imo in 25 man raid, if you want to compete for dps u'd have to pass divine spirit and imp ds for extra hit (at least 1 point) and mind tap. You'll have a full disc priest healer in 25 man grp because of PS is too op for not having one, and second. If u want to dps u'll need a perfect composition that is hybrid holy paladin in your grp as a healer with imp sanctity aura and a retri that will hold wisdom and what's MOST important imp Jotcr (if pala use pvp gloves for extra spell damage that is +230 holy damage. In that case u ll have to smap smite and that's it cause it will be most damage efficient. I'll prolly suggest to spam SHD as i'm a troll and 30% haste is always better then 10% ))
@@obeybosss I'd have to disagree on the importance of pure Disc healers in a raid. PS when used reduces the threat of the target by 5% making it tricky to use consistently on tanks. Realistically I've seen raids prefer CoH priests and only swap a priest into disc solely for IDS. IF Another disc priest is consistently present, yes. it's worth swapping out of DS, but base damage is much more valuable than the hit talent as explained above. Sanctity aura can be comfortably provided by any spec of pally. Shockadin, Sanct Prot, or Ret. If the Smite priest brings the IDS then it indirectly allows for another if not more CoH priests.
@@pojothefuego9588 shockadin is not a viable pve spec and Ret won't be in a caster party, so prolly only prot pala or holy sanct. IMO getting imp sanct aura is quite difficult while still having a good compo
I was curious about the Race and Racials section. I didn't hear you talk about Starshards for NElves. It's a free dot so I'm not sure it'd be situational, so I'm assuming you were referring to the 1% dodge that NElves get. Just thought I'd ask if you did research around that and wanted to know what the difference between the damage of Starshards versus the spirit humans get. I'm not expecting Starshards to be better, but I was curious how much different it would be.
Hiiii! Very sorry for the late response!! Nelf is in the utility category because it is helpful, but doesn't shine in every category. In terms of Min-Max Human and Draenai have the edge. While Starshards have no cost, Human still get more regen in comparison and the damage bonus from the extra spirit still contributes towards Surge and spells that can crit. Smite priest spellpower on gear is neutral so arcane still benefits. I wouldn't turn my nose up at the ability if it were on my bar.
Hi there. Thx for your guide. Why are you using tempest touch gloves for the meta gem, when you are socketing 2 violet stones in the spellstrike pants? Shouldn't they already count as blues?
Hi! Bit unclear in the video, but yes you would be correct. In that case for the gloves, they are a backup if the Tanzanite (purple gem) isn't available in phase 1. Meaning I'd have to use blue gems instead which I only have one socket for.
I've also updated my set since that you can check out in the description! I've been looking into the Mana-Etched two set that allows me 4 free gems slots because the bonuses offer resilience. Hope this clarifies :)
Hello again. I am little by little gathering equipment for Smite Priest. And I found one thing that might be frustrating. Shining Fire Opal and Fluorescent Tanzanite are now unique-equipped. So I'll have to use the less powerful gems the jewelers make.
Hi, Sorry for the slow response! Really sucks those gems became unique. As of now I've adapted to using the Veiled Noble Topaz for my hit (same gem but lower quality) and Sparkling Star of Elune for my vacant slots. hope this helps! Purified Shadow Pearls are great choices too!
I do! I'm currently leveling, but not too sure what people are interested to see to be honest. Are dungeons interesting to watch? lol I typically recorded my pvp on the mage.
@@pojothefuego9588 leveling, Dungeons and Raids. Different Skill tress, 3 min or the Statsbasens spelldamage tree. There is nearly No content Out there for Smite. You can do Everything :p
Hi! the links in the description should update automatically whenever I update the set. Or are you asking about my current priest's progression? Grats on 70 too! Kick all the ass
I'm running Aldor all the way. The extra spellpower is better for overall dps and I don't intend using hit trinkets because I'll be swapping so many :)
@@pojothefuego9588 Thank you for your reply man! I was also thinking that spell power is better than the crit% provided by Scryer. Holy still needs 16% hit though?
@@pojothefuego9588 i try your build while questing and leveling starting from disc tree like u do and i feel its better to start from holy tree for casting time and crit what do u think ?
@@SulimanAlkous After my first point in Spirit tap, I fill the holy tree, then disc last. Holy has all your damage and framework for the spec to work. Disc has the utility and mana sustain. Sorry for the confusion!
Link in the description will bring you to my gearsets. Weights are visible in the bottom right corner when mousing over 'Smite' under the "EQUIVALENCY POINTS" tab
Because I use the full toolkit, taking that talent could cause hit inconsistency. Death, Pain, Purge, Holy Nova, and Holyfire would not benefit from that talent. Having a shadow word pain resist is a ton of lost damage and mana.
Completely agree! Smite is very similar to the pacing of arcane mages having burn and conserve phases. Shadow fiend and power infusion are always helpful!
Hey! Sad news, but smite priest outside of a leisure spec is quite dead in WoTLK. Largest reason for this is that the unique utility it once brought has been taken away and given to other classes. IDS no longer exists and every dps spec mimics our benefit from spirit removing our largest advantage. With the addition of dual spec, bringing a player that can multi-role is now irrelevant (disc shields > renew weakens our off-heal output). If our dps was much higher I'd consider taking Pain Suppression as a utility bargaining chip, but sadly its already extremely low as is. The glyph and talent modifiers we gain (20% smite dmg, 30% nova dmg) Seem to only replace the buffs we lose converting from TBC to Wrath. Our dmg never improves, just able can do it on our own (Sanctity aura and crusader judgement are both gone). While I won't say it's truly impossible, with many spec variations I found some level of success going Holy/Shadow. However, still couldn't add enough utility to justify the spec in raiding. TL; DR: Not enough dmg or utility to justify as viable in WOTLK.
@@pojothefuego9588 man thank you for such a deteailed answer. i focus only on PVP, my dream is to play 5x5 arena with 5 smite priests :))) just AOE enemy and heal teammates... also maybe viable on RBG ? we still bring a lot of AOE in massive fights and also healing to team. idk how it goes in real, but i just dream of doing some usefull interesting staff with smite priest... dont wanna play some normal spec in 15 year old game
Thanks for the vid. Watched it and will watch it when TBC Classic is live. You helped me a lot! I've smite from p1 till p6 in WoW Classic, I'm so excited for TBC.
Cool guide, Can't wait for the Spellpower Rogue guide.
Spellpower rogue only works if they don't fix mage daggers so they can't be dual wielded.
I now one dagger 64 lvl what have effect steal life what have scaling with spell power
Thank you for the vid this will be my first time playing tbc and this spec looks awesome
Happy it caught your eye! I have a ton of fun smiting things and I hope your journey is epic as well!
Thank you for putting this guide together. I've been main smite priest during all of classic, focusing on spell power, hit, crit, intel, but your video makes me want to go spirit! I'm using your set equivalency point config on seventyupgrades, it is super convenient.
I'm happy you found it helpful! Spirit is a MASSIVE stat for sustain and damage. I'd love updates on your smite journey
@@pojothefuego9588 This is the setup I've been using for classic: seventyupgrades.com/set/p45DD9AsCDtXfWqbq8sEWK
Something I've been doing recently is spamming holy nova rank 1 or 2 in aoe situations to proc the free smite and target one strong mob that i can basically smite for free. It's good to equalize HPs in aoe pulls too.
@@jovrx I also find it to be the best way to stretch your mana bar in sustained aoe outside of PI. Nova > Smite > Nova Smite. Super helpful
@@pojothefuego9588 Do you have any trick for downranking smite and casting max rank smite only if it's the surge of light one? Waiting to see if it procs makes me lose a lot of time when downranking. I tried to make a macro with max rank, /stopcasting, downrank, but it doesn't work.
Glad to see this. I tried the Smite priest and i had a blast....BUT, because my guild was lacking dps, i was kind of "forced" to get back shadow and tbh, i hate it!!! I love the versatility that this spec offers....you can either dps or just support the healers in case they need help...but the game doesn't really promote or help the "hybrid-support" specs like this one. It's sad...... Imo, it offers an opportunity to people like me, who are not super great dpser or super great healer, to do something useful in raids (support healers, dpsing OK, bringing spirit buff, etc...)..... I struggle a lot atm with my shadow priest for multiple reasons. I think the fact that i hate it so much doesn't help...but if i want to be included in raids with my guild, i don't have a choice atm....
Thanks for the awesome video! There is a shortage of Smite Priest content everywhere, so I glad to see this video. :)
I wanted to ask one more question about possible PvP Talent distribution.
Is it viable to almost giving up Discipline for 21 points in Shadow (for Blackout and Silence - more control options) and 33 in Holy (for Blessed Resilience)?
I saw your BG spec in the comment below and tried to resolve this problem about Silence absence.
I'm glad you liked it! Yeah, there is very few good sources out there for smite. Let alone sources at all. Shoutouts to Priestease who was pioneering the spec 13 years ago!
Taking Silence for PvP is absolutely an option and has been seen in smite-weaving priests in classic. TBC Arena this is a very strong choice even sparking some controversy on Endless tournaments as RMP (Rogue Mage Priest) comps were run with the healer using silence creating unbelievable control/CC. The biggest thing I promote is understanding the trade-off through the talent system. Taking the points from Discipline will deny you the buffs and mana sustain from your build. If you sacrifice 21 points from holy you lose burst, base damage, and healing capability. Each build has their with pros and cons. Taking Shadow will make you an offensive juggernaut.
@@pojothefuego9588 thought im the only one who remember Priestease lol . Thats awesome :))
First.. Thank you for this amazing guide!! Pls keep on doing smite priest vids, maybe also pvp.
You got a leveling skill order for us you can share? Would be very interesting.
Sorry for the late response! Thank you. While leveling in general or from 60. I fill my Shadow tree first (1 point in life tap) then complete Holy for Surge, then finish in Discipline til PI at 70. hope this helps!
Ahh so your saying while leveling you got to go with the ole spirit tap first huh
@@anthonyzarfati3579 definetly go whole spirit tap for leveling. Thats the bread an butter. Rotation is like PWS - Holy Fire - Smite - Smite - Smite.... And then you start next mob while you got spirit tap buff. Its DMG buff and Mana regen. And thats how you do it..
I really appreciate the response man yea that makes sense I'm gonna for sure do that!
I personally was planning on doing Nelf myself because 1. My classic priest is one and i'll just "inherit him" when tbc launches, 2. They're the dude that looks the best in a dress alliance side. and 3. Starshards. Classic Starshards is actually pretty neat because it gives non-shadow priest a viable mana efficient attack to use, but I've never crunched the numbers on tbc starshards.
That being said, i'm heavily considering draenei for the extra utility their racials provide. what's basically a free aoe Mana pot every 5 mins is nothing to scoff at.
Playing Nelf too. With TBC youll get an extra Dot. Thats nice too.
Ok while I disagree with using spirit tap it still seems really odd that you would opt for 4/5 in FoW & 4/5 in SG rather than going 3/5 & 5/5. The conversion of Spirit to SP is doubly useful if you are going for Spirit Tap since a Spirit tap proc doubles your spirit giving a DPS boost.
Heya! The main problem solving behind choosing spirit tap is to take advantage of both the high spirit value of T4-5 gear and further band-aid the mana struggles as a result of low item levels. Force of Will is certainly a stronger talent as aside from the Crit, the % damage will “bypass” the coefficient wall vs the spellpower gained from spiritual guidance. Many encounters from Kara-Hyjal have boss adds or aoe that allow for passive chances at spirit tap, giving you a sturdy boost compared to the consistent value of SG.
is smite getting better or worse in wotlk? any chance it can be viable? glyphs look good, though talents get worse, what you think?
Hi, great video! I have a few questions... Did you know how trinkets like Bangle of Endless Blessings, the Blue Dragon Card, or the Priest T5 class trinket would work out in this spec? I image the spirit on use effect to be great with Spirit Tap. You said the spec would scale well, but can it really keep up with other caster specs in t5 and beyond?
Smite is dirty when min/maxed. Trinkets like Bangle of Endless Blessings and Blue Dragon Card are very worthwhile, and I use them both for long aoe sustain fights, or ones like Prince. (Also PLEASE communicate with your group/healer if you're after the Bangles trinket) Bangles is good in specific fights, I still prefer a dps trinket if the mana can manage. I want to emphasize these trinkets should be healers first in terms of loot prio.
I'm highly considering trying this one. I did Smite Priest a little in Classic WoW but left before I ever really got it off the ground. Do you have any recommendations for a PvP Smite Priest spec? Along with that, which race would be best for PvP?
Hi! In Battleground I used this spec tbcdb.com/talents/index.html?en&priest&5002320133205100501000235051002020152000000000000000000000000000 Lacking the ability in arena to silence greatly concerns me, especially in higher mmr. For race Undead is the best since fears are abundant and sometimes unavoidable even while pillar humping. An alternate choice could also be bloodelf for an instant manaburn (puts targets in combat) while having the ability to silence every two minutes. Hope this helps!
@@pojothefuego9588 Awesome I appreciate the info! Regarding if it was Alliance side, would Draenei be the best choice since they seem to have decent priest racials for PvP and still have their main racials be useful to a raid, so kinda balanced between both? I don't wanna make a Human despite the huge Spirit bonus which would help in PvE.
Now I may be a bit greedy here, but while I do want to raid since I never experienced it much in original BC, but I also want to PvP, is there a recommended spec to kinda go in between PvE and PvP roles? Should I just do your PvP spec and deal with whatever I may be missing from the PvE side? Or should I just deal with it and respec as needed?
@@TheFragrantOne Yes! If you are looking for the most balanced race for both contents alliance side, Draenei would be the play. Symbol can be a useful ability vs mana burn comps and Chastise will be a good ranged root to help peel. I'd say Belf are in the same boat for horde but pillars will certainly be your best friends.
@@TheFragrantOne Revisiting to answer your second half of the question. I missed it. Smite doesn't support a PvE and PvP flex option as each build relies on specific talent synergies to function/compete as a spec. You would have to respecc for each content. Giving up your threat talent, ability cost reduction and raid-wide damage buff can make you undesirable for raid groups and create mana issues the spec has been known for in the past.
I'm naulting, can't wait to raid as smite spec.
too bad that there was no Jotcr on boss in those videos. Would love to see what the damage
All I know is My 60 holy priest barely in Outland starting greens do more dps than my 70 rogue with smite. I have mixed feelings about this
The levelling is a blast, can solo equal level elite, mad killing speed with spirit tap infinite sustain, of course getting into dungeons as a healer or dps with no problem. I would never thought holy priest as S tier leveler without playing it.
Love the video bro but I’m a little confused. You say how much you love spirit tap but you only put 1 point in it. Why 1 point instead of 5 and if your still leveling like I am (level 64) is 5 points worth it?
Hi! Using spirit tap up to T6 is definitely something I felt was a must-have. The talent doesn’t present enough situations/uptime for more investment that one point, but the dungeons and raid content during those phases had more than enough adds that you could still proc it consistently on 20% chance . The mana and damage bonus helped offset mana issues that were felt in that time, especially on longer fights like Lady Vashj with constant adds. Hope it helps!
Ty for the reply. I can’t wait to get online and try the spec out. Also why only 4/5 spiritual guidance? Why isn’t the extra 5% from taking 5/5 of that talent worth it?
@@deangelobailey5863 Realistically it comes down to preference as both talents come out to nearly identical value. The addition of Angel Form from the spirit talent give it an edge for progressive content. Additional scaling regen alongside spellpower helps sustain, which can become an issue depending on group comp/ability.
@@pojothefuego9588 thanks again bro Im gonna have to try it before I can comment on it but I would imagine if I don’t need anymore survivability I can put an extra point in force of will and spiritual guidance to see how it performs. I always like to stay over leveled anyway and go onto zones with mobs 1 or 2 levels under me to kill them faster. I’m
@@pojothefuego9588 I understand now there’s not enough points to 5/5 those talents but now that I tried it the damage is awesome I’m at twice as much but I have less utility. so cool you could make a damage spec out of a healer class I wish all classes were like that
Hey, good video, man! How did you calculate the stat weights which you used in the "Seventy Upgrades"?
I also can't decide on a race. I was a human in WoW Classic. And in TBC I wanted to change the race to drenei. But after your video, I started having doubts. I'm very attracted to the drenei talent that gives a 1% spell hit. I'm not sure if I'll always have ElemSham with me in the group. In WoW Classic I had 12-13% spell hit for a long time and really got tired of missing during boss-fights. Also I think Symbol of Hope gives a lot more mana than 10% of spirit for the same time. So it turns out that humans only have a small boost to spell power?
Maybe I'm wrong and 10% of spirit would be very weighty, but I'm very skeptical of spirit as a priority stat in equip... Do you have any experience playing drenei-smite-priest?
Hi, thank you! The stat weights were adapted from my own classic smite build which was more Mp5 based. Short Answer : Human and Draenei work well in high-end content. Spirit is a massive stat that comes from many passive places. Human's personal scaling is unmatched by any race. Draenai, however, bring much more utility to the table. Damage isn't the only metric. Providing 1000 mana to the group (5000 total) is incredibly strong and can merit a raid spot without mention of the 1% hit. Depending how you take advantage of these racials will determine which race is best for you. Both are strong options.
@@pojothefuego9588 I'd love to see a video of your Classic Smite build as well, bro! I imagine you take roughly the same talents just cant go all the way down to the instant Smite. I can't decide if the SP from Spiritual Guidance is better or worse than Force of Will when you have to choose between the two in Classic. I know this isn't a 2.4.3 comment but I love the work you put into Smite, homie! -Aranon
Also, you'd have to give up on PI to take Spiritual Guidance and that's probably too much. Leveling a new character it's probably great to take SG since you can get access to way more spell power than you would find on gear in the mid levels. But for raiding I don't think I you could compete with the loss of Force of Will AND PI.
would suggest to take +2% hit instead of divine spirit and probably one more +2% hit if you're going for boss fights DPS race because spirit tab won't help much unless there are adds
No. All you would do is create a hit inconsistency between your spells. Focused Power ONLY works for Smite and Mindblast. that leaves a 4% hit gap for SWP, Holy Fire, and SWD. Any resists can disturb the dps flow of the spec. As for Divine spirit, this is an essential buff. Not even to mention the spellpower it gives to your group/raid, for your own character this provides 10 mp5 and 17 spellpower alone (non-human). Spirit Tap is an unmovable talent unless I'm speccing for a specific fight. Too many raid bosses have adds.
@@pojothefuego9588 y, you
re right in 10 man compo spirit is a must but imo in 25 man raid, if you want to compete for dps u'd have to pass divine spirit and imp ds for extra hit (at least 1 point) and mind tap. You'll have a full disc priest healer in 25 man grp because of PS is too op for not having one, and second. If u want to dps u'll need a perfect composition that is hybrid holy paladin in your grp as a healer with imp sanctity aura and a retri that will hold wisdom and what's MOST important imp Jotcr (if pala use pvp gloves for extra spell damage that is +230 holy damage. In that case u ll have to smap smite and that's it cause it will be most damage efficient. I'll prolly suggest to spam SHD as i'm a troll and 30% haste is always better then 10% ))
@@obeybosss I'd have to disagree on the importance of pure Disc healers in a raid. PS when used reduces the threat of the target by 5% making it tricky to use consistently on tanks. Realistically I've seen raids prefer CoH priests and only swap a priest into disc solely for IDS. IF Another disc priest is consistently present, yes. it's worth swapping out of DS, but base damage is much more valuable than the hit talent as explained above. Sanctity aura can be comfortably provided by any spec of pally. Shockadin, Sanct Prot, or Ret. If the Smite priest brings the IDS then it indirectly allows for another if not more CoH priests.
@@pojothefuego9588 shockadin is not a viable pve spec and Ret won't be in a caster party, so prolly only prot pala or holy sanct. IMO getting imp sanct aura is quite difficult while still having a good compo
I was curious about the Race and Racials section. I didn't hear you talk about Starshards for NElves. It's a free dot so I'm not sure it'd be situational, so I'm assuming you were referring to the 1% dodge that NElves get. Just thought I'd ask if you did research around that and wanted to know what the difference between the damage of Starshards versus the spirit humans get. I'm not expecting Starshards to be better, but I was curious how much different it would be.
Hiiii! Very sorry for the late response!! Nelf is in the utility category because it is helpful, but doesn't shine in every category. In terms of Min-Max Human and Draenai have the edge. While Starshards have no cost, Human still get more regen in comparison and the damage bonus from the extra spirit still contributes towards Surge and spells that can crit. Smite priest spellpower on gear is neutral so arcane still benefits. I wouldn't turn my nose up at the ability if it were on my bar.
Hi there. Thx for your guide. Why are you using tempest touch gloves for the meta gem, when you are socketing 2 violet stones in the spellstrike pants? Shouldn't they already count as blues?
Hi! Bit unclear in the video, but yes you would be correct. In that case for the gloves, they are a backup if the Tanzanite (purple gem) isn't available in phase 1. Meaning I'd have to use blue gems instead which I only have one socket for.
I've also updated my set since that you can check out in the description! I've been looking into the Mana-Etched two set that allows me 4 free gems slots because the bonuses offer resilience. Hope this clarifies :)
@@pojothefuego9588 ahhh, i see. Thanks for clearing this up
Hello again. I am little by little gathering equipment for Smite Priest. And I found one thing that might be frustrating. Shining Fire Opal and Fluorescent Tanzanite are now unique-equipped. So I'll have to use the less powerful gems the jewelers make.
Hi, Sorry for the slow response! Really sucks those gems became unique. As of now I've adapted to using the Veiled Noble Topaz for my hit (same gem but lower quality) and Sparkling Star of Elune for my vacant slots. hope this helps! Purified Shadow Pearls are great choices too!
Pre patch is live, what are your thoughts? Do you plan to do more Smite content?
I do! I'm currently leveling, but not too sure what people are interested to see to be honest. Are dungeons interesting to watch? lol I typically recorded my pvp on the mage.
@@pojothefuego9588 leveling, Dungeons and Raids. Different Skill tress, 3 min or the Statsbasens spelldamage tree.
There is nearly No content Out there for Smite. You can do Everything :p
@@scatman3094 When I catch some free time I got you covered :)
Which of the two did you pick? Scryer or Aldor and why?
He went Aldor, as for the reason I would imagine more SP over Crit, but not entirely certain
Hallo mate big fan! is there a way i can see when you upgate your Seventy Upgrades? :D (just hit 70 and getting rdy to smite! )
Hi! the links in the description should update automatically whenever I update the set. Or are you asking about my current priest's progression? Grats on 70 too! Kick all the ass
TBC talents were so fuckin good
So Aldor or Scryer for Smite Priest? Sorry if I missed it if you said in your video. Thank you.
I'm running Aldor all the way. The extra spellpower is better for overall dps and I don't intend using hit trinkets because I'll be swapping so many :)
@@pojothefuego9588 Thank you for your reply man! I was also thinking that spell power is better than the crit% provided by Scryer. Holy still needs 16% hit though?
@@whitemagick4 Indeed. 16%! But you don’t need to worry about spell penn
While questing do you recommend 5 points in spirit tap?
While questing and leveling I used the same build. Worked perfectly fine for me
@@pojothefuego9588 i try your build while questing and leveling starting from disc tree like u do and i feel its better to start from holy tree for casting time and crit what do u think ?
@@SulimanAlkous After my first point in Spirit tap, I fill the holy tree, then disc last. Holy has all your damage and framework for the spec to work. Disc has the utility and mana sustain. Sorry for the confusion!
@@pojothefuego9588 I would say that i would keep the spirit tap anyway...especially since smite priest consume a lot of mana ;)
the Blaqula special
You know it! lol nearly changed my name to "wight" to carry on the legacy
what are your weights for 70 ugprades?
Link in the description will bring you to my gearsets. Weights are visible in the bottom right corner when mousing over 'Smite' under the "EQUIVALENCY POINTS" tab
What level would it be ok to swap to this from shadow
If you're talking for BC leveling. Anytime! I leveled as smite with no issues. For 1-60 leveling shadow will always be the fastest.
your 5% off hit cap in tier 5 gear unless your expecting to have an ele sham in your group
correct. I do expect to have an ele shaman. I'm building for 13% hit in my sets
??? why no focused power? 4% hit
Because I use the full toolkit, taking that talent could cause hit inconsistency. Death, Pain, Purge, Holy Nova, and Holyfire would not benefit from that talent. Having a shadow word pain resist is a ton of lost damage and mana.
Down rank holy nova to fish procs for surging light is legit.
Completely agree! Smite is very similar to the pacing of arcane mages having burn and conserve phases. Shadow fiend and power infusion are always helpful!
What rank of Holy Nova do you use?
@@AidzMcShades I use rank 7, 3, and 1 for Holy nova
@@pojothefuego9588 ditto. wow we have the same brain.
Kinda lost me at 5 spirit instead of movement speed ;)
I prefer 2 spellpower and 1 mp5. In a raid fight every bit helps
You can get a movement meta to compensate. It doesnt stack with boot enchant anyway
Yo where's the devastate warrior at yo? I hear that's bis for the rest of classic.
lol...
is smite getting better or worse in wotlk? any chance it can be viable? glyphs look good, though talents get worse, what you think?
Hey! Sad news, but smite priest outside of a leisure spec is quite dead in WoTLK. Largest reason for this is that the unique utility it once brought has been taken away and given to other classes. IDS no longer exists and every dps spec mimics our benefit from spirit removing our largest advantage. With the addition of dual spec, bringing a player that can multi-role is now irrelevant (disc shields > renew weakens our off-heal output). If our dps was much higher I'd consider taking Pain Suppression as a utility bargaining chip, but sadly its already extremely low as is. The glyph and talent modifiers we gain (20% smite dmg, 30% nova dmg) Seem to only replace the buffs we lose converting from TBC to Wrath. Our dmg never improves, just able can do it on our own (Sanctity aura and crusader judgement are both gone). While I won't say it's truly impossible, with many spec variations I found some level of success going Holy/Shadow. However, still couldn't add enough utility to justify the spec in raiding. TL; DR: Not enough dmg or utility to justify as viable in WOTLK.
@@pojothefuego9588 man thank you for such a deteailed answer. i focus only on PVP, my dream is to play 5x5 arena with 5 smite priests :))) just AOE enemy and heal teammates... also maybe viable on RBG ? we still bring a lot of AOE in massive fights and also healing to team. idk how it goes in real, but i just dream of doing some usefull interesting staff with smite priest... dont wanna play some normal spec in 15 year old game