This Is How The Spanish Golden Age Ended

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  • @grondhero
    @grondhero Рік тому +31

    *"Conquest and Culture"* was the first book I read by Thomas Sowell. I have now read six of his books (finished the 6th this weekend) and have three more on my shelf waiting to be read.

    • @hannobaali_makendali
      @hannobaali_makendali Рік тому +2

      Getting into His AUDIOBOOKS.
      He's like a fresh waterfall shower.

  • @BaltimoresBerzerker
    @BaltimoresBerzerker Рік тому +50

    Interesting fact I learned: Spanish gold and silver ended up in the Soviet Union during the Spanish Civil War. The communists sent it to the USSR for safekeeping but it was never returned.

    • @marschlosser4540
      @marschlosser4540 Рік тому

      Franco was a Nazi and were it not for Hitler, he would have lost the Spanish Civil War.

    • @BaltimoresBerzerker
      @BaltimoresBerzerker Рік тому +2

      @@marschlosser4540 it's more nuanced than that, Franco definitely wasn't a Nazi and could barely be forced into the box of Fascist either. What does this have to do with my comment anyway?

    • @joemahony4198
      @joemahony4198 Рік тому +2

      Socialist stealing gold and silver for the workers paradise.

    • @BaltimoresBerzerker
      @BaltimoresBerzerker Рік тому +5

      @@joemahony4198 😆 like Lenin said, capitalism is a prerequisite for socialism, because there has to be something to "confiscate" for socialism to finance itself. It's pathetic when your economic, social, and political vision depends on theft, and even then it didn't achieve it's goals.

    • @marschlosser4540
      @marschlosser4540 Рік тому

      @@BaltimoresBerzerker Franco owed his life to Hitler, and the Russians are not going to hand anything over to nazis.

  • @jordingbat
    @jordingbat Рік тому +21

    Excessive Power corrupts. When the laborers and tradesmen (small business & middle class) are removed the people suffer.

  • @joaopedrobaggio4475
    @joaopedrobaggio4475 Рік тому +39

    It doens't matter how much money you have, what really matters is how to take care of this money. This story is great example of this.

    • @CCoburn3
      @CCoburn3 Рік тому

      Not only that. In order to really be wealthy, people have to create goods or services that people want. If your only "product" is money, then money will flow through your hands to the people who produce actual goods and services. You will be "rich" for a short time, but that will not last. That's what happened to Spain, and that's what is happening to the US.

    • @joaopedrobaggio4475
      @joaopedrobaggio4475 Рік тому

      @@CCoburn3 sorry to say it buddy, but the USA is doomed.

    • @CCoburn3
      @CCoburn3 Рік тому

      @@joaopedrobaggio4475 I’d say it’s dead already. If we had a press that did more than spew government propaganda, we’d all know the country is dead.

  • @jimmyjohnson6232
    @jimmyjohnson6232 Рік тому +3

    Brilliant man

  • @neoreign
    @neoreign Рік тому +25

    When you destroy the middle class, in Spain's case 'expel' 🤡🤡

    • @szymonbaranowski8184
      @szymonbaranowski8184 Рік тому +1

      if they are foreigners they weren't their middle class so it needed to happen eventually

  • @TheGeneralGrievous19
    @TheGeneralGrievous19 Рік тому +3

    I would not link expulsion of Jews and muslims with a lack of strong middle class. It was rather the dominance of noble land owners in society/politics and taxation on internal merchants/craftsmen as well as peasants. In 15th century Spain had already developed Christian middle class and merchant fleet on par with other countries. The fate of Spain is kinda similar to Polish economy of that time where nobility also dominated and stopped cities from growing in early modern period. And Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth did not expel Jews and Germans that had strong presence in the cities, and still suffered similar fate.

    • @szymonbaranowski8184
      @szymonbaranowski8184 Рік тому

      yup the same way polishlithuanian commonwealth worked
      there wheat was the gold
      merchants and urban populations had no
      political power and so commerce was secondary when laws were dictated
      oh you can read how Copernicus wanted to convince king to not tax creation of currency
      getting profit from minting it
      but king didn't want to listen and leave such profit making economy and currency sound
      so main problem was the land owners monopoly on power
      but also illiterate in economics rulers 😂

    • @jmgonzales7701
      @jmgonzales7701 Рік тому

      @@szymonbaranowski8184 why didint spain like commerce? thou i still think there is still a link between the expulsion of jews and the moors to why their commerce dipped, the jews and arab people are very good merchants after all, but the downfall of spain is a combination of factors that slowly killed herself as time went on.

  • @DavidCraig-go1zv
    @DavidCraig-go1zv Рік тому +2

    "Those who do not learn from the past..."

  • @legiran9564
    @legiran9564 Рік тому +3

    Income doesn't define wealth. Expenses does.

    • @violinhunter2
      @violinhunter2 Рік тому +1

      An old friend of mine always told me that his problem was not expenses, it was his income, so he decided to get a second job.

    • @stayfree6115
      @stayfree6115 Рік тому +1

      When your out-flow exceeds your in-flow.
      Your up-keep will be your down-fall.

    • @szymonbaranowski8184
      @szymonbaranowski8184 Рік тому

      nope assets define ot

    • @legiran9564
      @legiran9564 Рік тому

      @@szymonbaranowski8184 Runaway expenses can result to loss of assets. Go back to school child. Adults are speaking here.

  • @authorcharlieboring
    @authorcharlieboring Рік тому +3

    read my book, Michael's Eyes for a take on Spanish gold folded into the story.

  • @rawmilkmike
    @rawmilkmike Рік тому

    Good one. Why not more like this video?

  • @Lejarzamikel
    @Lejarzamikel Рік тому +5

    Spanish territories in America were not colonies, they were parts of the Spanish empire, and all its citizens were considered as equals under the law and protected by the king, regardless of where they came from.

    • @Cocacolaespuma394
      @Cocacolaespuma394 Рік тому

      Yes but actually no, indigenous having privileges (can’t get judged by holy inquisition) in contrast to the Iberians or mestizos is not very equal

  • @eziolua11
    @eziolua11 Рік тому

    Well, he is not stating the fact that America was a land of opportunity, without lords and kings. Many Europeans went there, leaving their knowledge out of reach of the old continent.

  • @williamhagen2792
    @williamhagen2792 Рік тому +2

    Billiant.

  • @Munce72
    @Munce72 Рік тому +1

    Great work Dr. Sowell! Scooby snacks for you.

  • @errrzarrr
    @errrzarrr Рік тому

    Truth is Spanish gold ended up in the Vatican and the Soviet Union

  • @zerothehero753
    @zerothehero753 Рік тому

    Um... Yeah.

  • @jasonpalacios1363
    @jasonpalacios1363 Рік тому +2

    These are the reasons why Spain is the poorest nations in Western Europe especially they witnessed karma for their evil ways.

    • @Lacteagalaxia
      @Lacteagalaxia Рік тому +1

      poor lol ; thing lol; you have been here; its a higher quality of life index ranking Spain 19 , ;than france 26th or united kingdom 22th fo example or you have not been here or you are xenophobe ; Spain is the 4 economy of e.u with more fewer inhabitants than other three and the 14 economy of the world inept.

    • @Lacteagalaxia
      @Lacteagalaxia Рік тому

      karma lol ;then is also passed on to thr british right now lol; or the Americans waso who comtinues opress latinos with your surname ,🤣

    • @sodakk17
      @sodakk17 Рік тому

      Portugal is poorer.

    • @szymonbaranowski8184
      @szymonbaranowski8184 Рік тому

      bullshit
      Spain went full free market reforms thanks to Franco
      and had good growth but socialists spoiled it again
      strong Spain means strong European influence on Spanish speaking Latin America
      And USA very much doesn't want that...
      who is empire now dictating rules nowadays again?
      white blood was a grand gift and blessing to Latin America and Philippines
      look who does best on their universities lol
      well in case if Philippines I must add Chinese blood

    • @eziolua11
      @eziolua11 Рік тому

      Well Spain has been destroyed twice. The mountainous geography matters too. And also catholicism, although destructive in the extreme, puts God at the center, and not so much to the extreme rationalism, atnropoegocentric, individualistic and capitalist materialism. That is why, with pros and cons, Spain is a sweet and noble country, of ancient values, where in every corner there is a european echo of the search for beauty and humanism, of the renaissance of platonic antiquity. Things that now the US and the too artificial worlds we are missing, and rightly so.

  • @Spartangeneral7
    @Spartangeneral7 Рік тому +5

    Another element that added to the problem was the relentlessly brutal pursuit of enemies of the Holy See by the Spanish Inquisition.

    • @lupea8079
      @lupea8079 Рік тому

      A total of over 300 people were killed by the inquisition in Spain in a course of over 300-400 years. The Spanish inquisition is highly exaggerated by the British, protestants, and liberals. Most atrocities committed by the Spaniards we're of their own doing through war, caste system, and slavery.

    • @szymonbaranowski8184
      @szymonbaranowski8184 Рік тому

      bullshit and historical myth

    • @nathan_408
      @nathan_408 10 місяців тому +1

      these persecutions are super estimated by anglo-propaganda.

  • @violinhunter2
    @violinhunter2 Рік тому +6

    ..."a lack of human capital"... a nice way of saying "Laziness." ?

    • @Krontok
      @Krontok Рік тому +5

      I believe they call it a siesta

    • @violinhunter2
      @violinhunter2 Рік тому

      @@Krontok Na ja, Ich glaube their "lunch hour" used to run from noon to 3 pm. 🙂

    • @ericpreston8877
      @ericpreston8877 Рік тому

      The Spaniards enslaved Indians and worked them to death. I understand why fans of modern capitalism admire this.

    • @szymonbaranowski8184
      @szymonbaranowski8184 Рік тому +1

      it means no need to work
      as the goal of work is to later not need to work

    • @violinhunter2
      @violinhunter2 Рік тому

      @@szymonbaranowski8184 🙂 I think work is forever..... except on the seventh day....

  • @merlinwizard1000
    @merlinwizard1000 Рік тому +1

    23rd, 9 January 2023

  • @yousernameish
    @yousernameish Рік тому +3

    "skilled labour" the lack thereof isn't the suppression of the middle class. Its the lack of advancement opportunities for the working class. Thomas has difficulty acknowledging the importance of the working class, its like a blind spot, meanwhile overstating the importance of the middle class. Only my opinion before folks get all triggered, i have a lot of respect for Thomas, but this blind spot seems to be a reaction to Marxism... prevalent in right wing US politics. But theres also snobbery.....even more accute in the attitudes of liberal-democrats for instance who view themselves as morally superior to uneducated (ie no college degree) manual workers.
    Spains economy didn't collapse due to the lack of accountants, dentists, tax collectors, advertising executives, middle managers, nor college professors.
    no no no no no
    Spains working class enjoyed zero benefits from the influx of gold, none of the wealth trickled down (it never does) in fact they suffered the poverty caused by extreme inflation... caused by the influx of wealth.
    Wealth disparity will collapse any society sooner or later, thats a blindspot for a lot of otherwise enlightened thinkers, and the intellectuals who advocate more privelidge for tbe middle class are often the very same people who are vehemently against setting a minimum wage.

    • @InitialV666
      @InitialV666 Рік тому

      your comment is out of context

    • @ericpreston8877
      @ericpreston8877 Рік тому +1

      He *actively hates* the working class, as most antiMarxists do.

    • @hendrixisgod777
      @hendrixisgod777 Рік тому

      I think you’re misunderstanding what he means by ‘middle class’. In America the middle class IS the working class. Nobody uses the term working class or describes themselves as such.
      It’s like the way they use the word ‘public’ to describe schools run by the government. In Britain, it means the complete opposite, and if you don’t know this you end up in a world of trouble when having debates about education.
      We’re two nations divided by a common language.

    • @szymonbaranowski8184
      @szymonbaranowski8184 Рік тому

      west is totally rigged for business
      with stocks being main part of overall wealth there
      you do well in USA running business especially corporation with USA gov
      blessing
      but as worker even intellectual you are screwed totally since 1970 and dollar
      becoming world business main currency
      and denomination of most wanted assets
      so middle class if not business based is also screwed
      just look at cost of education in USA 😂
      it's aristocracy vs plebs all over again
      and new Cromwell is on his way for sure

    • @szymonbaranowski8184
      @szymonbaranowski8184 Рік тому

      ​@@hendrixisgod777 so what's lower class in USA? 😂