@@paperc07 miraidon ex is good because it takes advantage of its slower play style and easy power up of iron hands. just be careful what you put on the bench so they dont get trapped. Keep it light on the bench and the match up should not be that bad for you.
I really like your take on the deck and it was fun watching it 😄 I figured TM Devo is really much needed and added it myseld but I didn’t think about crushing hammer. I‘m currently experimenting by adding a 1-1 line of Bronzong with Evolution jammer in the deck. Thus, Rabsca can be cut and you completely crush evolving-focused decks like dragapult and so on and still have venomoth for all other decks.
I have a ruling question! What happens if I use the attack “Light Pulse” from Altaria EX to KO any of your Pokemon. On your turn you will be able to attack with Venomoth but you won’t confused my Pokemon, but what happens with the item lock? It’s also cancelled by Altaria attack by being an effect from an attack or not?
From my understanding the item lock would still be in affect since the affect of the item lock goes to the player not a pokemon. so you would not get confused but the lock would stay in place
more like people don't wanna sit thru a trash deck, same goes to snorlax, no win condition, people just quit against it online. Nobody wants to sit thru 30 rounds drawing
@@Gabor147 it does have a win condition, setting up the item lock along with the spread damage is how you win. Same as snorlax, you trap a pokemon to stall. The style of game play may not be for everyone but it is still a valid way to play the game.
@@professorgnomeits valid way to play, but as far as online goes I rather play an engaging game then trying to play against this deck. What do I care if I scoop? I saved some time and you go about thinking you're awesome. Win, win lol. Love the creativity though.
@@qalandaryar that's a fair view point, however I would say you should try to play it out to get the experience because if your in tournament you wouldn't want to scoop and so understanding the deck is still important. But you make a fair point!
Ya there was someone in our community discord discussing that idea the other day, wanted to start working on something like that myself soon! I think it's a pretty fun idea haha
@@professorgnome I have it with a crazy applin build, they think they have me until I bust out a fully buffed burning darkness one hitting all their cards until I win lol!
I am trying to understand the confuse condition....cant they just possibly roll out of during the checkup? Why am I not seeing that here? I tried playing venomoth against the AI and it destroys me cause most of the time it rolls heads and cures the confusion. Am I missing something?
No the condition stays but when they attack they have to flip a coin. If they flip tails they take 30 damage if they get heads the attack continues. so its not perfect, your mainly looking for the item locking affect but the confusion can be an added bonus to maybe keep you alive.
So i have not tried scream tail ex but i did try salvatore and more often then not it was better to just have draw supports then salvatore but i think scream tail ex could be interesting
@@professorgnome uptalk-upspeak, same thing, its when you end every sentence with a rising infliction, like your ending every sentence with a question. anywho, your use of venomoth and froslass here is nasty, I might give it a shot and see how I like it. :) peace.
I'm currently using it in mew and it's working out but I can agree it has a harder time when your opponents are better and know what to target and how to counter the deck more frequently
@@TheLinkhawkins Best of luck haha as someone with dyslexia I couldnt even think about trying to teach someone else to read haha I commend your efforts!
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That one guy prizing both of his stage 1 grass kitties had the WORST luck.
ya that was kinda nuts haha
Froslass chilling on the bench, Venamoth blowing powder and Munkidori chucking damage counters. This deck is insane 🎉
its so much fun has been one of my favorite things to play at the moment!
bro my buddy plays this deck its absoloutely insane is there any good counter decks?
@@paperc07 miraidon ex is good because it takes advantage of its slower play style and easy power up of iron hands. just be careful what you put on the bench so they dont get trapped. Keep it light on the bench and the match up should not be that bad for you.
I really like your take on the deck and it was fun watching it 😄 I figured TM Devo is really much needed and added it myseld but I didn’t think about crushing hammer. I‘m currently experimenting by adding a 1-1 line of Bronzong with Evolution jammer in the deck. Thus, Rabsca can be cut and you completely crush evolving-focused decks like dragapult and so on and still have venomoth for all other decks.
thats really smart, ill have to give that a try!
This is probably one of the better froslass decks, I tried a variant with Alolan Raticate that is pretty decent as well.
thanks im happy you like the deck!
I have a ruling question! What happens if I use the attack “Light Pulse” from Altaria EX to KO any of your Pokemon. On your turn you will be able to attack with Venomoth but you won’t confused my Pokemon, but what happens with the item lock? It’s also cancelled by Altaria attack by being an effect from an attack or not?
From my understanding the item lock would still be in affect since the affect of the item lock goes to the player not a pokemon. so you would not get confused but the lock would stay in place
Damn bro, everyone rage quit one you! You had them reelin
ya this deck is a lot to deal with haha
more like people don't wanna sit thru a trash deck, same goes to snorlax, no win condition, people just quit against it online. Nobody wants to sit thru 30 rounds drawing
@@Gabor147 it does have a win condition, setting up the item lock along with the spread damage is how you win. Same as snorlax, you trap a pokemon to stall. The style of game play may not be for everyone but it is still a valid way to play the game.
@@professorgnomeits valid way to play, but as far as online goes I rather play an engaging game then trying to play against this deck. What do I care if I scoop? I saved some time and you go about thinking you're awesome. Win, win lol. Love the creativity though.
@@qalandaryar that's a fair view point, however I would say you should try to play it out to get the experience because if your in tournament you wouldn't want to scoop and so understanding the deck is still important. But you make a fair point!
Insane deck, just subbed!
Thank you so much! I appreciate the support!
I have been working on a Feraligatr + Minkidori deck. When it works it can beat everything in the meta. Kinda cool.
Ya there was someone in our community discord discussing that idea the other day, wanted to start working on something like that myself soon! I think it's a pretty fun idea haha
Awesome! I'll join your discord group!
That is a dastardly deck! Holy crap! Maybe add in a rare candy with a charmander/charizard for late game in case they have you in the ropes
@@pimpnorris2097 not sure what I would be able to cut, to fit that in sadly
@@professorgnome absolutely could, maybe one less hammer and that rabsca you weren’t even using it
@@pimpnorris2097 maybe I would have to test it and see how it goes
@@professorgnome I have it with a crazy applin build, they think they have me until I bust out a fully buffed burning darkness one hitting all their cards until I win lol!
I am trying to understand the confuse condition....cant they just possibly roll out of during the checkup? Why am I not seeing that here? I tried playing venomoth against the AI and it destroys me cause most of the time it rolls heads and cures the confusion. Am I missing something?
No the condition stays but when they attack they have to flip a coin. If they flip tails they take 30 damage if they get heads the attack continues. so its not perfect, your mainly looking for the item locking affect but the confusion can be an added bonus to maybe keep you alive.
Have you considered putting in Scream Tail ex into this? And maybe an emergency Salvatore?
So i have not tried scream tail ex but i did try salvatore and more often then not it was better to just have draw supports then salvatore but i think scream tail ex could be interesting
Great deck!
Radiant alakazam would be good in this strategy?
yes if you can fit it in it be great!
How about Salvatore for itemlocking turn 1?
I cut it because I never seemed to come up, but it be good if i ever got it in my hand haha
omg control, and spread 🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩
-Luna
Ya its super interesting deck! A lot of fun to play haha maybe not so much to play vs
@@professorgnome I love decks like this😍😍😍
~Luna
Why no bug catching set?
you dont really need it since it only hits a few cards and you can already search out everything else that you need with other cards.
whoa, are you from cali? your uptalk is crazy pre.
uptalk? sorry not sure what you mean.
@@professorgnome uptalk-upspeak, same thing, its when you end every sentence with a rising infliction, like your ending every sentence with a question. anywho, your use of venomoth and froslass here is nasty, I might give it a shot and see how I like it. :) peace.
@@jonhill329 oh never really noticed haha anyway happy you like the deck and I hope it works out for you!
#giveaway and My favorite Pokémon game is OG Gold. Loving this deck idea! Venomoth needs more love!
Fun deck ELO has stalled with it though. Gotta luck into to much.
I'm currently using it in mew and it's working out but I can agree it has a harder time when your opponents are better and know what to target and how to counter the deck more frequently
Great video 🔥
Thanks happy you enjoyed it!
Awesome Man!
Thanks!
Just played against this, so hard to go against. Made me quit lol
Ya I'm not looking forward to having to be on the other end of this deck, but it will also be a cool feeling haha
Luminous Energy, not Legacy* BTW cool deck
ya sorry about that lol happy you enjoy the deck haha
This is fun to play against Gardevoir EX decks, and Chien Pao EX/Baxcalibur
Luminous energy not legacy energy two a specs would be crazy
Ya I didn't realize I was calling it the wrong thing till later when I was editing lol my ability to remember card names is not to great lol
It's a very fun deck!
Happy you enjoyed it!
By Legacy Energy you mean Luminous Energy. I can see how thats easily confusing.
My ability to read strikes again lol im truly gifted lol
@@professorgnome tell me about it. I'm trying to teach my kids to read and I feel dumb at times haha
@@TheLinkhawkins Best of luck haha as someone with dyslexia I couldnt even think about trying to teach someone else to read haha I commend your efforts!
Also he said ra-bas-ca 😂 it's rab-sca. He's a good player tho 👍
@@fixxmyhead eh Pokemon names have always been weird. I think a lot of us do not watch the show/movies anymore so we go based on reading them.
This is mentallllllll
ya its such a cool idea, i loved working on this one haha
i'm just not having any luck with this deck. cool deck but just not working for me.
Sorry to hear the deck isn't working out for you. Hopefully your luck turns around or your able to find another deck that works for you.
This deck is so inconsistent
sorry to hear the deck is not working out for you.
Rab-sca. Dra-kloak.
Thank you, this is very helpful haha