After A LOT of research on what my first boat will be I've finally decided on this one. I'm also going to add the rudder. Your walk through on this video and your video on the best upgrade to a kayak definitely helped in my decision making. Thanks a ton. Now I just have to decide on the color, really like that winter camo.
Out of all the walkthroughs I've seen here on UA-cam, yours is possibly the most in depth. You literally went through every inch of the kayak. I've been up in the air on getting one of these until watching this. So thank you!
It is a really nice Kayak...great improvements to a proven hull...really appreciate your commentary...thorough and thoughtful...you should to more kayak reviews...you are well spoken
Back at you again. Am waiting on my 12.5 V2 ( June 20-25). I have to admit, had I gotten $1200 from the government, (unknowingly got claimed as a dependent @ 60+ yrs old), I would have gotten the vibe shearwater 12.5. Tons more of boat. I've had my eye on the V2 for months, getting it and not looking back. You're one of a couple people who made up my mind. Am sure I'll love it. Thanks again.
By far the best review on this boat, no yelling or mucho macho, good critic and a good explanation of all the attributes. Big charmer good luck with your channel mate, I have subscribed
Great review. I just bought my son the Moken 10 V2. Trying to decide which one to buy for myself. Sorry to see that Appomattox River Co doesn't carry them any longer. I'm just up the road from them.
That's one of my Phobias.... early adopters remorse. LOL. Nice video. That was a cool effect with the focusing during your intro. Surprised that i don't see it more often.
Great review. Getting one soon, if I can't find the moken 10 V2.( Not the lite version). Tough finding one the way things are. I feel if I get this, the rudder system is a must. Thanks again.
Of course they come out with a Molken with an adjustable seat after I just bought the Lure 13.5. I wonder if you can install the peddle drive in it? Thanks for the info
@@WAEofFishing did it have the hole all the way to the water under the sonar pod? Like the Lure model if you pull the sonar pod out you can see all the way through..
@@WAEofFishing Good and thanks for the review. I'll be getting one as soon as I can find one. My local dealer says they cant get it until February wth?
Nice review. Wondering if you happen to have an on-water evaluation by now. Too bad Appomattox is no longer carrying them. Any suggestions for a seller in northern VA? If the price is right, I'd probably travel an hour or two. Thanks!
Nice review ! This is a nice kayak, I want one too ☝️ I’m going to do a “ river float “ for hunting whitetail deer, and I need something that is : capable, stable , practical, quiet , has versatility and easy to maneuver in and out of water … that wheel in the keel is a great feature to supplement all of the other great features that you went over as well . Is it 440 pounds capacity ?
@@WAEofFishing Thanks 🙏 yeah I weigh 180 lbs , plus my clothes and gear I’m over 200 lbs , and then a deer ,quartered , skinned and packed it’ll be close to 350 lbs so I’m pretty sure this will handle the task .
Not that I've seen. They discounted them heavily last year. I would assume to drive down inventory before a new product launch. But I'm only speculating.
I’ve just bought one. Waiting for delivery. Bought beaver tail as well. Also a minn Kota riptide 45lb motor to fit through sonar pod scupper. Looking forward to trying it out. Are they pretty stable.
You can catch my model on deep discount if you look. BUT you can't beat the V2 for new kayak value! Did you see my video walkthrough of the boat? I hope to paddle it this summer
Yes. Flat calm with me paddling I've hit 3-4mph. I have been in the mouth of Chesapeake bay with this. Rollers and large boat wake was not an issue. Hatches are cam locked with seals and stay very dry. I have punched and fully submerged mine briefly with no worries.
I was wondering is the rear handle screwed directly into the plastic or does it have threaded inserts that the handle screws into? That's the only cheesy looking thing on the kayak, everything else is great.
Would you recommend a rudder or does it track ok? Is that a grab handle under the rear on each side of the rudder ? I was wanting the blue, but now I like that color better.
Rudder absolutely (if you can afford it). The Moken tracks great alone but rudders are really worth it. The rear handle is on both sides. Thanks for watching and hopefully subscribing!!!
I’m thinking of getting this kayak but how difficult is it to load on a roof rack? That is how I plan on carrying it and loading and unloading by myself. I will be using a roller on the back of the roof rack.
@@WAEofFishing one of my favorite features is the wheel since I will be mostly be loading and moving it by myself. I think that is a genius idea. I have a ladder roller on the back of my roof rack to help when lifting to the rack. I am also considering the Lure but this one seems to have most the features I’m looking for at a little cheaper investment. Thanks
Would you buy bare bones Lure V2 for the price or buy Moken V2 and use extra cash to upgrade the rails and sonar? ... Honestly feeling this kayak just as much as the Lure V2 but THE PRICE leaves room to buy more to upgrade it. So really it would be just as good if not better than Lure V2 after rudder and sonar... Or whatever we chose... Right!? Man, I'm picky and just want my second kayak to be one I'll have for a long time. I would appreciate your word on the matter. Thanks for the video and your time sir.
I would do moken. The lure seat is amazing but heavy. I say rig up the moken to the gills because in the long run it's more versatile. Take it all off and you have a river boat, load it up and you have a tournament rig. The lure is almost unusable without a rudder so add $200 to base price. You asked for my opinion....I just don't think the stability is worth the trade offs.🤷🏾♂️
Yes, but you do need good balance. I have a video where I was standing and fishing topwater out of it. If stability is that hi on the list you may want to look at a feelfree lure
Would you go with the lure 11.5 or this? I know the lure has the gravity seat and wider stance for stability for casting. What's your thoughts? I know you have the v1 moken and i watched your 2 year review.
totally depends on use case. The gravity seat is probably the best on the market honestly. But only if maneuverability, speed and tight quarters are not an issue. There is no simple answer to this. I have a Bonafide SS127 and a Moken....I would not take the SS127 on a river run if I have the choice between the two. It would work, sure but the Moken is way more nimble. Use case is everything.
I know you are a bonafide fanboy now, but I’m going back and forth between a moken 12.5v2 or the bonafide ex123. I fish flat water lakes mostly. What yak would you go with?
i love my SS127, but honestly for me... the Moken is my ROCK. It is just so much more versatile. current, portaging, speed, rough water, customizable. I really really still love my Moken. Even with my low seat position, it is like a Subaru WRX (Moken) vs. Tacoma (SS127).... LOL. Subaru kinda goes everywhere, does a little of everything... but with a turbo! lol
@@WAEofFishing sweet! Love you videos, thanks for the advice. Hope I didn’t cause offense with the fanboy comment, you called yourself that in one of the videos I’ve been binge watching!
Moken is faster and lighter. Lure is more stable. It depends on your current use and future plans. Saltwater/bigger water = Moken. Slow, lots of tackle and electronics = Lure. IMO
Mokens are made with LPDE...low density polyethylene plastic. This makes the kayak not as durable and rigid as HDPE...high density polyethylene. Kayak brands like Perception uses HDPE. If you plan to tool around a lake and take it easy, LDPE is fine. But if you are gonna torture your yak, like we do, go with HDPE. Also understand that LDPE has less sun resistance than HDPE.
FeelFree need to upgrade the seating to a Gravity Seat with a high back as standard, sorry but this seat doesn't look very comfortable... especially for people who have bad backs which is most of us guys over 40 yrs. old.
I have a bad back also! Lmbo. I haven't paddled the boat yet but I will in a couple of months. I wonder if it was a cost thing or weight thing that drove the decision. With it's price point, I'm willing to bet it was cost.
@@WAEofFishing It could be but these Kayaks are made in Bangkok to keep costs down anyway. If it cost a few extra dollars at the start to give you a comfortable seat, I'm sure most new Kayak buyers would justify paying a little more. Here in Australia FeelFree are charging $500 for an aftermarket Gravity Seat and then hit you up for another $70 to get the High Back option, $570 would get you a nice recliner. If that wasn't bad enough FeelFree don't even make a Gravity Seat for the Moken, whether that be new or old model, so even if you could afford if and wanted to upgrade, it's not an option.
@@WAEofFishing It certainly is a lot of money considering what it is, I wonder what metal it's made of. Now if it's stainless steel then OK but if it is just some sort of plastic wrapped or powder coated steel or worse still tin, then I think the public is getting ripped off. www.feelfreegearaust.com.au/collections/feelfree-kayaks-parts-accessories?page=2 (Page 1 has the high back price on it). I bought a Moken 12.5 earlier this week and looking back knowing what I know now I would of bought a Lure and if I had the money maybe the new Dorado. Please don't get me wrong I like most of the other features and the built in wheel is a real winner to me. On the earlier Model Lures you could fit an electric motor down through where they have the sounder pod nowadays with a slight Mod. ua-cam.com/video/wdchh-MVNKg/v-deo.html . Just wished they would think of people who don't have so much money to spend but could easily do a quick Mod. or have some sort disability or maybe aren't as fit or as strong as your average 18-35 yr old guy but want to get more enjoyment out of their Kayak and make life a little easier for themselves.
Its actually pretty darn comfortable. I've never tried the gravity seat so i can't compare, but i have a bad back and paddle for hours no problem with this kayak.
After A LOT of research on what my first boat will be I've finally decided on this one. I'm also going to add the rudder. Your walk through on this video and your video on the best upgrade to a kayak definitely helped in my decision making. Thanks a ton. Now I just have to decide on the color, really like that winter camo.
Glad I could help!
Out of all the walkthroughs I've seen here on UA-cam, yours is possibly the most in depth. You literally went through every inch of the kayak. I've been up in the air on getting one of these until watching this. So thank you!
Thank you for watching! And thanks if you subscribed! Let us know what you think, I will be doing an on water test in June
It is a really nice Kayak...great improvements to a proven hull...really appreciate your commentary...thorough and thoughtful...you should to more kayak reviews...you are well spoken
Well thank you very much! I may just do that this winter
I got mine for 649 and damn its awesome. I even got the same winter camo color scheme
The mystery machine just drove by with a flowmaster. That is comedy!! Plus a great review.
hahahahaha! thanks for watching!
Back at you again. Am waiting on my 12.5 V2 ( June 20-25). I have to admit, had I gotten $1200 from the government, (unknowingly got claimed as a dependent @ 60+ yrs old), I would have gotten the vibe shearwater 12.5. Tons more of boat.
I've had my eye on the V2 for months, getting it and not looking back. You're one of a couple people who made up my mind. Am sure I'll love it. Thanks again.
You're welcome! Thanks for watching
nice review. i think i'm going to get the 10V2 really soon.
Heck yeah! Congrats
By far the best review on this boat, no yelling or mucho macho, good critic and a good explanation of all the attributes. Big charmer good luck with your channel mate, I have subscribed
Thanks for the support!
I just bought the lure 11.5 but that's a nice ride and great review thanks for the info
You are very welcome! Send some pics when you take her out
I had a feel free 10 angler. Awesome kayak.
The price point on these V2 models is on point, especially given the features.
I know!!!!!!!!! Price NEW is nutso. I really want the moken..... but I really want a bonafide too. 🤔🤯
Nice kayak open box show, I am getting close to getting into this sport
It's the best money I ever spent on fishing!
First time watching and great review on this boat . im hooked on the moken 12.5 . ill be getting one soon .
Thanks for watching! Consider sticking around!!😎
Excellent walk through, just what I was looking for. Thanks! Ordering one tomorrow. 👍
Glad I could help!
Well done My Brother. Excellent choice too. Thanks, Respect, and blessings to You and Yours' .
Thank you and same to you!
good break down. I have to pre orderr for September delivery but im going for it! thanks
Crazy that you can't find one right now!
Great review thanks for the info about the feelfree
Thanks for watching!
Excellent review. You’ve really got me thinking about getting this kayak.
Haha. I have had the V1 for years and it hasn't failed me in any way. You would love this boat
Yeah I really dig that color.
Friggin awesome! Thanks for watching my channel btw, I appreciate it!
Thank you for the review, this will probably be my new yak for 2020.
Sweet! You're welcome, thank you for watching
great video buddy. We have not got them in the UK yet but coming soon think this might be a good one for my first boat:-)
Hope you enjoy it! It's awesome!
Great review. I just bought my son the Moken 10 V2. Trying to decide which one to buy for myself. Sorry to see that Appomattox River Co doesn't carry them any longer. I'm just up the road from them.
Yeah, it's a great boat. Even though it's an Asian company, it's not Chinese made quality like others.
That's one of my Phobias.... early adopters remorse. LOL. Nice video. That was a cool effect with the focusing during your intro. Surprised that i don't see it more often.
I had someone filming me this time
Great review. Getting one soon, if I can't find the moken 10 V2.( Not the lite version). Tough finding one the way things are. I feel if I get this, the rudder system is a must. Thanks again.
Right on! thanks for watching the video!
Great review.
Glad you enjoyed it
Thx for this review!
Very welcome!
The two.straps by the seats are straps to hold your rods. So you can lay your rods down
Thanks! I didn't think that.... I didn't consider it bc I wouldn't do it. Saltwater kills all it touches...🤣🤣 Thank you for commenting!
@@WAEofFishing lol. They do make rods and reels that do great in the salt. Mine have last me for over 8 years
@@scottmcbride2237 I've kept my old as dirt $29 Shimano Sienna going for a while! Never dunked them, but I can feel the age on them now.
the rubber straps in the beginning are rod holders the tips go to the front plastic protectors
thanks for adding that information!
Of course they come out with a Molken with an adjustable seat after I just bought the Lure 13.5. I wonder if you can install the peddle drive in it? Thanks for the info
I don't think so... but I didn't try
@@WAEofFishing did it have the hole all the way to the water under the sonar pod? Like the Lure model if you pull the sonar pod out you can see all the way through..
@@rockinglock yessir! It looks identical to me.
@@WAEofFishing Good and thanks for the review. I'll be getting one as soon as I can find one. My local dealer says they cant get it until February wth?
@@rockinglock where are you? My shop can ship it
Nice review. Wondering if you happen to have an on-water evaluation by now. Too bad Appomattox is no longer carrying them. Any suggestions for a seller in northern VA? If the price is right, I'd probably travel an hour or two. Thanks!
Bob's up the creek in Madison heights area has all feel free. I have not tried it. But am planning on getting a 10' model
Great walk-through! I wonder why they didn’t do a molded stern handle?
Good question....unfortunately they have never responded to my emails or social media messages :(
Nice review ! This is a nice kayak, I want one too ☝️
I’m going to do a “ river float “ for hunting whitetail deer, and I need something that is : capable, stable , practical, quiet , has versatility and easy to maneuver in and out of water … that wheel in the keel is a great feature to supplement all of the other great features that you went over as well .
Is it 440 pounds capacity ?
400lbs. Hope you tag one!!
The Lure is 425 capacity, but heavier overall
@@WAEofFishing Thanks 🙏 yeah I weigh 180 lbs , plus my clothes and gear I’m over 200 lbs , and then a deer ,quartered , skinned and packed it’ll be close to 350 lbs so I’m pretty sure this will handle the task .
Thanks for a good review
But i take it the moken 10.0 hasn't received any of the updates?
Not that I've seen. They discounted them heavily last year. I would assume to drive down inventory before a new product launch. But I'm only speculating.
I’ve just bought one. Waiting for delivery. Bought beaver tail as well. Also a minn Kota riptide 45lb motor to fit through sonar pod scupper. Looking forward to trying it out. Are they pretty stable.
Yes, very. I still love FeelFree. Very good at fitting multiple roles.
Congrats BTW!
@@WAEofFishing many thanks,👍
Great review! I'm trying to decide between this boat and the Vibe Sea Ghost 110. Thoughts??
This...100%.
Hull consistency, materials, proven capabilities, price.
I am really considering the feel free moken 12.5 v2 as my first kayak.
You can catch my model on deep discount if you look. BUT you can't beat the V2 for new kayak value! Did you see my video walkthrough of the boat? I hope to paddle it this summer
@@WAEofFishing I absolutely did lol you are the reason I am really considering the moken 12.5 v2. Can you put the overdrive in the it?
I don't think so..... but I can find out for you. Let me make a call
@@WAEofFishing I am glad I found your channel I really like your content and I am excited to see more
@@WAEofFishing thank you
Hows the speed in this boat and can it handle 2 to 3 ft swell in Ocean? Thanks for the vid!
Yes. Flat calm with me paddling I've hit 3-4mph. I have been in the mouth of Chesapeake bay with this. Rollers and large boat wake was not an issue. Hatches are cam locked with seals and stay very dry. I have punched and fully submerged mine briefly with no worries.
Does the radar and cables come along with the kayak or its extra fitting
The rudder is extra unfortunately. Just under $200 i believe.
I was wondering is the rear handle screwed directly into the plastic or does it have threaded inserts that the handle screws into? That's the only cheesy looking thing on the kayak, everything else is great.
Threaded. I agree, it's your standard Chinese made nylon handle
@@WAEofFishing cool man, I'm going to go check one out tomorrow and if all goes well I will be bringing one home with me.
Would you recommend a rudder or does it track ok?
Is that a grab handle under the rear on each side of the rudder ?
I was wanting the blue, but now I like that color better.
Rudder absolutely (if you can afford it). The Moken tracks great alone but rudders are really worth it. The rear handle is on both sides. Thanks for watching and hopefully subscribing!!!
See if I've got this right. You said the foot pedals slide for and aft to control the rudder? I thought there was "toe control"
The older model (the one I have ) was a toe control. But not this one.
Remember to read through the description for more info!
I’m thinking of getting this kayak but how difficult is it to load on a roof rack? That is how I plan on carrying it and loading and unloading by myself. I will be using a roller on the back of the roof rack.
This is a very light 12' boat. Especially with everything taken off and out of it.
@@WAEofFishing one of my favorite features is the wheel since I will be mostly be loading and moving it by myself. I think that is a genius idea. I have a ladder roller on the back of my roof rack to help when lifting to the rack. I am also considering the Lure but this one seems to have most the features I’m looking for at a little cheaper investment. Thanks
Lure seat is heavy imo. Hull is not as versatile, big trade off for that stability....imo. good luck!
Would you buy bare bones Lure V2 for the price or buy Moken V2 and use extra cash to upgrade the rails and sonar? ... Honestly feeling this kayak just as much as the Lure V2 but THE PRICE leaves room to buy more to upgrade it. So really it would be just as good if not better than Lure V2 after rudder and sonar... Or whatever we chose... Right!? Man, I'm picky and just want my second kayak to be one I'll have for a long time. I would appreciate your word on the matter. Thanks for the video and your time sir.
I would do moken. The lure seat is amazing but heavy. I say rig up the moken to the gills because in the long run it's more versatile. Take it all off and you have a river boat, load it up and you have a tournament rig. The lure is almost unusable without a rudder so add $200 to base price. You asked for my opinion....I just don't think the stability is worth the trade offs.🤷🏾♂️
I am interested in this boat but I will definitely want to stand and fish quiet a bit. Is it really stable enough to do that?
Yes, but you do need good balance. I have a video where I was standing and fishing topwater out of it. If stability is that hi on the list you may want to look at a feelfree lure
Would you go with the lure 11.5 or this? I know the lure has the gravity seat and wider stance for stability for casting. What's your thoughts? I know you have the v1 moken and i watched your 2 year review.
totally depends on use case. The gravity seat is probably the best on the market honestly. But only if maneuverability, speed and tight quarters are not an issue. There is no simple answer to this. I have a Bonafide SS127 and a Moken....I would not take the SS127 on a river run if I have the choice between the two. It would work, sure but the Moken is way more nimble. Use case is everything.
I know you are a bonafide fanboy now, but I’m going back and forth between a moken 12.5v2 or the bonafide ex123. I fish flat water lakes mostly. What yak would you go with?
i love my SS127, but honestly for me... the Moken is my ROCK. It is just so much more versatile. current, portaging, speed, rough water, customizable. I really really still love my Moken. Even with my low seat position, it is like a Subaru WRX (Moken) vs. Tacoma (SS127).... LOL. Subaru kinda goes everywhere, does a little of everything... but with a turbo! lol
@@WAEofFishing sweet! Love you videos, thanks for the advice. Hope I didn’t cause offense with the fanboy comment, you called yourself that in one of the videos I’ve been binge watching!
Oh no, I understood it immediately. Lol.
Which one would you recommend, the Moken 12.5 or Lure 11.5? I'm looking for my first kayak so I've got zero experience.
Thanks!
Moken is faster and lighter. Lure is more stable. It depends on your current use and future plans. Saltwater/bigger water = Moken. Slow, lots of tackle and electronics = Lure. IMO
Man I'm torn between this and the BKC RA220. BKC is about 150 cheaper and is loaded. Any opinion brother ?
First kayak? Save the money. Feel free is far better quality
@@WAEofFishing Yes sir, first Kayak. Will get the Moken 12.5 v2. Thank you :)
Haha nice!!!!!!
Did your V1 have the rudder? Did you use it a lot?
The rudder is an add on and I ended up installing it. I really wish I had gotten it from the start...i use it ALWAYS!
If you do buy it I can have your old boat right😂
Yes
Can I put Overdrive pedals on v2?
No, I don't think so.
great review feel free owes you for one more sale to me.
Call 'em for me!!!! 😅 TY!!
Can anyone tell me if these are made from HDPE or LLDPE?
Should be HDPE.
lol @ Kaleb
always!
Mokens are made with LPDE...low density polyethylene plastic. This makes the kayak not as durable and rigid as HDPE...high density polyethylene. Kayak brands like Perception uses HDPE. If you plan to tool around a lake and take it easy, LDPE is fine. But if you are gonna torture your yak, like we do, go with HDPE. Also understand that LDPE has less sun resistance than HDPE.
Oooooo, really good info. Im gonna pin this comment 💯
FeelFree need to upgrade the seating to a Gravity Seat with a high back as standard, sorry but this seat doesn't look very comfortable... especially for people who have bad backs which is most of us guys over 40 yrs. old.
I have a bad back also! Lmbo. I haven't paddled the boat yet but I will in a couple of months. I wonder if it was a cost thing or weight thing that drove the decision. With it's price point, I'm willing to bet it was cost.
@@WAEofFishing It could be but these Kayaks are made in Bangkok to keep costs down anyway. If it cost a few extra dollars at the start to give you a comfortable seat, I'm sure most new Kayak buyers would justify paying a little more. Here in Australia FeelFree are charging $500 for an aftermarket Gravity Seat and then hit you up for another $70 to get the High Back option, $570 would get you a nice recliner. If that wasn't bad enough FeelFree don't even make a Gravity Seat for the Moken, whether that be new or old model, so even if you could afford if and wanted to upgrade, it's not an option.
@@CaptainBax that's a LOT of money!!!
@@WAEofFishing It certainly is a lot of money considering what it is, I wonder what metal it's made of. Now if it's stainless steel then OK but if it is just some sort of plastic wrapped or powder coated steel or worse still tin, then I think the public is getting ripped off. www.feelfreegearaust.com.au/collections/feelfree-kayaks-parts-accessories?page=2 (Page 1 has the high back price on it). I bought a Moken 12.5 earlier this week and looking back knowing what I know now I would of bought a Lure and if I had the money maybe the new Dorado. Please don't get me wrong I like most of the other features and the built in wheel is a real winner to me. On the earlier Model Lures you could fit an electric motor down through where they have the sounder pod nowadays with a slight Mod. ua-cam.com/video/wdchh-MVNKg/v-deo.html . Just wished they would think of people who don't have so much money to spend but could easily do a quick Mod. or have some sort disability or maybe aren't as fit or as strong as your average 18-35 yr old guy but want to get more enjoyment out of their Kayak and make life a little easier for themselves.
Its actually pretty darn comfortable. I've never tried the gravity seat so i can't compare, but i have a bad back and paddle for hours no problem with this kayak.
Pointless review, seriously give us a REAL WORLD review.
Thanks for the comment.