This is one of my favorite pieces to listen to. There's something magical about the opening. I know #9 is the "popular" choice, but I've always gotten so much more out of this.
For me. Walking around in Praha is like coming home. And Dvoraks music grasps the czech soul and the atmosphere in Bohemia. And this Karajan recording is probably close to what Dvorak was dreaming of when he composed it. Even if there is close nabourship to german music, Dvorak and Smetana created a special czech sound which you can't miss. Genuin czech like Griegs "norwegian sound". The third movement alegretto gracioso is the czech soul itself. Take a trip outside Praha in the bohemian landscape and you will feel the spirit of Dvorak.
Cuando se unen los Grandes ( Dvorak ,Karajan y Filarmonica de Viena) , la música clásica se convierte en un brillante Sol de armonía, fuerza y felicidad casi infinita. GRACIAS.
Without Dvorak and his great performers and conductors such as Karajan and his orchestra , our world would have been very lonely . From Tokyo of the Land of the Rising Sun 🇯🇵
The comments about the orchestra appearing militaristic could perhaps be justified, but do not detract from the music, the performance, being outstanding.
Karajan has proved the norm of contemporary orchestra performance through this. He achieved the most sophisticated orchestra aesthetics with VPO in the 1980s. Please compare this Dvorak symphiny no. 8 performance to that of 60s, which is a little wild but spiritual. Many thanks for uploadung this.
Erinnert an Richard Strauss dirigierstil, aber andererseits auch ganz anders. Karajan kann hervorragend ökonomisch dirigieren, sodass man immernoch einen tollen Eindruck des Stückes erhält und er dennoch Leidenschaft vermitteln kann. Genial! Die Aufführung lässt auch Möglichkeiten für eigene Interpretation offen. Bester Dirigent der Welt!
Grabacion genial,interpretacion apasionada.(stereo review 1985).probablemente la mejor interpretacion de esta obra y la grabacion impecable.un tesoro y un refugio!
❤ omg! I listened to this when I was in highschool (1999). At that time, I found the cassette at 'imported section' only, in another city quite far from mine. Yes. it was difficult to find such music back then in my country. Miss it so much! Tq!
Muy buena interpretación de una obra bellísima. Excelente la iluminación y muy bien el director de cámaras: siempre en el momento justo en el lugar correcto
Uma efetiva "compreensão" de uma sinfonia pressupõe que o ouvinte está captando e participando da nesma vivência do autor da música. Imagino os sentimentos que habitavam a alma de Dvorak ao compor essa inigualável peça: entusiasmo no mais elevado grau.
Wow, I couldn't miss any moment while watching this video. It's amazing! May I repost your channel on the platform of Ganjing World? I will keep everything as is and include your channel link as the source. Thanks, dear!
Nunca entendí porqué Karajan obliga a sus orquestas a no moverse cuando tocan, parecen mas un ejercito que un grupo de músicos tocando. No dudo que suena hermoso y compacto, pero las orquestas de hoy han demostrado que se puede tocar igual de bien y transmitir mejor cuando el músico está mas suelto. Hermosa sinfonía!!!! Mi preferida!!! aun por sobre la 9na.
Hay mucha toma fake en estas filmaciones por decisión del propio Karajan que lo pedía un poco por didáctica y otro poco por narcisismo. Este tipo de producción a mi en lo visual me aporta poco y nada. Pero aparte de todo, la versión es magnífica, sensualisima y pícara al mismo tiempo, también en algún momento suena un poco hinchadita en retórica, marca de Karajan también. Pero la riqueza sonora es tremenda. Vale la pena con todo.
@@joedays94 Buena reflexión. Estoy de acuerdo en que lo que se oye es increíblemente mas imaginativo y sensual de lo que se ve. Pero me sigue sorprendiendo la idea. Parece mas un desfile militar que un concierto. La orquesta con él marcó una epoca y se diferenció por mucho de las demas orquestas,eso es innegable.
Es necesario agregar que vienen después de una 2da guerra mundial, y todos ellos han vivido esa situación, así que no es de extrañar que ello ha podido influenciar en la forma en la que percibes a esta orquesta. Y si, también considero que el movimiento musical aporta en una interpretación, obviamente sin ser exagerados y manteniendo un equilibrio entre melodía y armonía
@@MrTann2010 Dear Mr. Tan: Maybe you can help me out. I heard that the first principal violinist died in a mountain climbing accident. Is this true? Thanks. Greetings from Canada.
At least up until 14:00 the orchestra is carrying Karajan. After the beautiful solo of the concertmaster at 14:00, the orchestra seems to start to lead. This is strange.
He had horrible back pain...and anything visual is playback as he would go back and make sure trumpets etc. were all in line and the cameras had the right filters etc - the video shows the orchestra largely faking it, especially when the different sections are shown...but the performance is of course the real deal.
This is from the days when the Wiener Philharmoniker wouldn’t take women on. They’ve changed that now, but it has taken them a long time and a lot of agonising.
Because they went back and reshot the much of the video with the original sound playing over loudspeakers - so they're basically faking and following Karajan's instructions just for visual effect.
これを 聞くと学生時代の混沌としながらもエネルギーを持て余していた頃を懐かしく思い出します。時間がゆっくり流れていました。学問は2番目だった。その後悔から、私は就職してから大学時代やり残した事をやっていた感じがします。仕事しながら大学院へ行ったり国家資格を6つ取りました。第１種放射線取扱主任者の時は自分の限界までやりました。全部1回でパス。生涯の友ができたのが一番の財産かも知れません。経済的に大変だったのに、2人の娘を大学へ入れる事が夢だった両親に感謝しています。当時、女性の大学進学率は10%程度、親戚や地元から結構白い目で見られたと後から聞きました。
なんて素晴らしい思い出でしょう！！
For me, the happiest symphony ever.
1. Allegro con brio (00:00)
2. Adagio (09:50)
3. Scherzo. Allegretto grazioso - Molto vivace (21:28)
4. Allegro ma non troppo (27:06)
This is one of my favorite pieces to listen to. There's something magical about the opening. I know #9 is the "popular" choice, but I've always gotten so much more out of this.
This symphony is either marciale or very lyrical. But Dvořák's 4th, 5th or 6th are very well done too!
same here
Perhaps it is because Dvorak had a special appreciation for the cello, and this symphony is very cellistic
My favorite Dvorak symphony conducted by my favorite conductor.
For me. Walking around in Praha is like coming home. And Dvoraks music grasps the czech soul and the atmosphere in Bohemia. And this Karajan recording is probably close to what Dvorak was dreaming of when he composed it. Even if there is close nabourship to german music, Dvorak and Smetana created a special czech sound which you can't miss. Genuin czech like Griegs "norwegian sound". The third movement alegretto gracioso is the czech soul itself. Take a trip outside Praha in the bohemian landscape and you will feel the spirit of Dvorak.
Cuando se unen los Grandes ( Dvorak ,Karajan y Filarmonica de Viena) , la música clásica se convierte en un brillante Sol de armonía, fuerza y felicidad casi infinita.
GRACIAS.
Maravillosas palabras!
Without Dvorak and his great performers and conductors such as Karajan and his orchestra ,
our world would have been very lonely .
From
Tokyo of the Land of the Rising Sun 🇯🇵
One of my favourite symphonies ever
Also Antonin is my favourite composer ever
24:16 chillzzzz
The comments about the orchestra appearing militaristic could perhaps be justified, but do not detract from the music, the performance, being outstanding.
Шикарный оркестр и гениальный Кароян ! Какая могучая внутренняя энергетика и глубокая наполненность чувств в лирических эпизодах !!! БРАВО Маэстро !!!
Karajan has proved the norm of contemporary orchestra performance through this. He achieved the most sophisticated orchestra aesthetics with VPO in the 1980s. Please compare this Dvorak symphiny no. 8 performance to that of 60s, which is a little wild but spiritual. Many thanks for uploadung this.
カラヤンのドボ八は本当に美しい、また飽きない、ワルツの達人ウィーンフィルにカラヤンの弦のうまさが冴える
Erinnert an Richard Strauss dirigierstil, aber andererseits auch ganz anders. Karajan kann hervorragend ökonomisch dirigieren, sodass man immernoch einen tollen Eindruck des Stückes erhält und er dennoch Leidenschaft vermitteln kann. Genial! Die Aufführung lässt auch Möglichkeiten für eigene Interpretation offen. Bester Dirigent der Welt!
Grabacion genial,interpretacion apasionada.(stereo review 1985).probablemente la mejor interpretacion de esta obra y la grabacion impecable.un tesoro y un refugio!
Riesige interpretation!
Wahrscheinlich die beste die es gibt!
Dvorak wäre sicherlich begeistert davon!
❤ omg! I listened to this when I was in highschool (1999). At that time, I found the cassette at 'imported section' only, in another city quite far from mine. Yes. it was difficult to find such music back then in my country. Miss it so much! Tq!
21:30 3rd movement
FLAWLESS,!!!!
Karajan is not my cup of tea but... thumb up anyway
Гениальное исполнение!!!
29:06 The Miracle starts at here ;)
or even at 0:57 ;D
Impecable Karajan
Muy buena interpretación de una obra bellísima. Excelente la iluminación y muy bien el director de cámaras: siempre en el momento justo en el lugar correcto
This is absolute expression!
La mejor versión sin dudas!!!
Allegro gracioso is BEAUTY TO PAIN💜💜💜!
All the piece is a Miracle!
Uma efetiva "compreensão" de uma sinfonia pressupõe que o ouvinte está captando e participando da nesma vivência do autor da música. Imagino os sentimentos que habitavam a alma de Dvorak ao compor essa inigualável peça: entusiasmo no mais elevado grau.
Simply the Best!
実に素晴らしい。
これぞ名演というものだと思います。
Great scent of Slavic!
嗚呼、やっぱりカラヤンが好き。『あんなことしてやろう。こんなことしてやろう』っていうのがなくて、ただただ音楽の素晴らしさが伝わってくる。
うんうん😢
Espléndida sinfonía, estupenda interpretación. Gracias por compartirla.
4악장 플룻 솔로에서 카라얀님 살짝 미소? :)
29:20 I love this flute solo so much.
He didn't take a single breath....l
Qué bien trasmite en su música la esencia de su tierra!!
Doesn't anybody understand the beauty starting at 6:43 ???
This symphony is even better than his ninth
Debatable
Both together are Dvorak's crowning achievement. The greatest symphonies of the 19th century, and probably of all time.
@IB_AARAV RAKESH Mahler
@@Dylonely42 Haydn
@@Aiwendill Not at all
Magical recording.
21:30
III. Scherzo
Wow, I couldn't miss any moment while watching this video. It's amazing! May I repost your channel on the platform of Ganjing World? I will keep everything as is and include your channel link as the source. Thanks, dear!
Nunca entendí porqué Karajan obliga a sus orquestas a no moverse cuando tocan, parecen mas un ejercito que un grupo de músicos tocando. No dudo que suena hermoso y compacto, pero las orquestas de hoy han demostrado que se puede tocar igual de bien y transmitir mejor cuando el músico está mas suelto.
Hermosa sinfonía!!!! Mi preferida!!! aun por sobre la 9na.
TE VOY A RESPONDER, LA UNICA ESTRELLA QUE DEBE BRILLAR ES LA MUSICA, EL MOVIMIENTO DISTRAE.
Hay mucha toma fake en estas filmaciones por decisión del propio Karajan que lo pedía un poco por didáctica y otro poco por narcisismo. Este tipo de producción a mi en lo visual me aporta poco y nada. Pero aparte de todo, la versión es magnífica, sensualisima y pícara al mismo tiempo, también en algún momento suena un poco hinchadita en retórica, marca de Karajan también. Pero la riqueza sonora es tremenda. Vale la pena con todo.
@@joedays94 Buena reflexión. Estoy de acuerdo en que lo que se oye es increíblemente mas imaginativo y sensual de lo que se ve. Pero me sigue sorprendiendo la idea. Parece mas un desfile militar que un concierto.
La orquesta con él marcó una epoca y se diferenció por mucho de las demas orquestas,eso es innegable.
Es necesario agregar que vienen después de una 2da guerra mundial, y todos ellos han vivido esa situación, así que no es de extrañar que ello ha podido influenciar en la forma en la que percibes a esta orquesta. Y si, también considero que el movimiento musical aporta en una interpretación, obviamente sin ser exagerados y manteniendo un equilibrio entre melodía y armonía
6:00 Young Alois Posch (2nd from right), his head bobbing style of playing is an early thing...evidently!
21:31 ❤❤
Г-н Караян напоминает здесь. тов. Черненко последних дней жизни
18:21
29:42 the Flutist is like a robot haha Do you know his name?? I wondered.
@@kezhihe8482 Oh,I actually know him but he is so young ı could not know him. thank you
He is Dieter Flury. First flutist for the Vienna Phil for over 30 years before retiring a few years ago. .
@@MrTann2010 Dear Mr. Tan: Maybe you can help me out. I heard that the first principal violinist died in a mountain
climbing accident. Is this true? Thanks. Greetings from Canada.
@@paulbrennan5646 yeah that first principal is Gerhard Hetzel who died in a mountain accident in 1992 at Salzburg
@@MrTann2010 Thanks for your speedy reply!
This rendition: THE HOLIEST of the HOLIEST.
Керемет😍
At least up until 14:00 the orchestra is carrying Karajan. After the beautiful solo of the concertmaster at 14:00, the orchestra seems to start to lead. This is strange.
He had horrible back pain...and anything visual is playback as he would go back and make sure trumpets etc. were all in line and the cameras had the right filters etc - the video shows the orchestra largely faking it, especially when the different sections are shown...but the performance is of course the real deal.
21:22 3rd mov
24:16, 25:40
27:38, 28:47
Please...someone...write a pop song to the opening theme from the second movement.
14:20
5:24 13:12 29:20
This is from the days when the Wiener Philharmoniker wouldn’t take women on. They’ve changed that now, but it has taken them a long time and a lot of agonising.
:(
If Dvorak was to write a better piece than this is would have to be in a New World.
29:20からのフルートソロはいつブレスとってる………….?????
just wanna ask , are they happy while playing?
no
33:07
5:24
22:59
Nossa! Demais!
Their A is tuned to 443 and it’s really getting to me 😓😓😓😓
lol- flute player @ 05:25 not even trying to make the fake playing look real! 😂
This has to be one of the most tepid Dvorak 8s I ever heard, and even if you prefer that the reverberant acoustics don't do it any favors.
No emotion
When you listen to its ?
none of these performers seem to be feeling any enjoyment in their playing whatsoever. Especially the first flautist.
Because they went back and reshot the much of the video with the original sound playing over loudspeakers - so they're basically faking and following Karajan's instructions just for visual effect.
And not one woman in sight. Bigots against women. The flute solo in the last movement was awful. Totally lazy rhythm.
ok soyjack.
21:30
13:49
27:06
28:30