Paul Dye: What It Was Like to Bring the Shuttle Home From Orbit
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- Опубліковано 2 вер 2023
- Former NASA Senior Flight Director Paul Dye describes the Space Shuttle as the most amazing winged aircraft ever built. Who could argue the point? In this in-depth video review, Dye explains what it was like to bring the Shuttle home from orbit after a multi-day mission. Don't forget, the Shuttle was the largest glider ever built and one capable of flying at Mach 25.
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Paul Dye the Shuttle Guy…
( P-p-p-p-paul Dyyyyye the shuttle guuuyyyyyy.) Paul! Paul! Paul! Paul! Paul! Paul! Paul! Paul!
No wonder shuttle pilots were required to practice hundreds of approach and “landings” in the Gulfstream Shuttle Training Aircraft (STA) before flying an actual landing. That STA had its mighty Rolls-Royce Spey engines operating in reverse during approach and the cockpit shuttle speed brake handle was actually varying the engine reverse thrust! The STA was an amazing aircraft and vital to successful shuttle flight. Thanks for this great interview! I always had a soft spot for Endeavour.
The most amazing experience I’ve had was being at KSC for the launch of STS-135. I live streamed every minute of that flight, right to touch down. The shuttle is amazing!
My most memorable launch was the return to flight mission after Columbia. Watching from the safety of the beach, it was incredible to know a crew was once again on the way to space with no allusions about the real risks involved. Before Challenger, Shuttle had become almost routine, operational flight. Then had returned to that state of mind before Columbia.
After Columbia, there was no doubt that space flight is never routine. Yet here was a crew accepting that risk again. Godspeed to all who have, or will put their lives on the line for such an admirable endeavour!
Awww, this was way TOO SHORT a chat with such an interesting guest Paul 😔
Excellent Interview! What an amazing experience it must have been flying the shuttle! Thank you so much for sharing this with us!
Amazing interview. Loved the tie in’s to GA flying. Really gives an insight to the abilities and training of these pilots. Very interesting!
Thank you! Impressive numbers and story for anybody with any flight experience. Now I need to go to FL to check that one out. Thank you.
The Atlantis exhibit is incredible. The scorch marks on the tiles, the control panel visible through the thick quartz windows.
What struck me is the smell. That greasy, moldy metallic smell of an airplane in a hangar. Then underneath all that heat shielding, common aircraft aluminum and yellow anti-corrosion paint no different than an MD-80. You get almost within arm's distance of the most amazing aircraft/spacecraft ever built.
This interview was an awesome treat - Thanks Paul B and Thanks to Paul Dye for the out of this world discussion!!
As a former Space Shuttle mission Commander, I would like to buy that pilot from the video in the first half a beer
This was crazy awesome. Thanks for this great interview!
Great to see and listen. Thank you!
In 1999, I had the opportunity to meet & talk with Buzz Aldrin. I sort of rescued him out of a crowd asking "What's it like to walk on the Moon?" (for the billionth time) by opening up an Engineering & Mathematics conversation (which drove the crowd away). I don't know whether he was happy to see the crowd leave (and their same Qs) or that he actually enjoys highly technical & mathematical discussions.
As a result of that conversation Buzz invited me to work with him on designing the crew controls for the Orion spacecraft (which went around the Moon last year). I think a common element is that they're all very technical guys and enjoy that aspect as much as others do less technical entertainment. Certainly I did too and I was happy to contribute to the Orion as well as my new work with Musk's SpaceX.
I remember seeing Discovery “STS-29” launch from the Cape in early ‘89 while parked along I95… I was 12 & it was one of the coolest things I’ve ever witnessed… Especially, after watching Challenger blow up on TV in my school’s library in Jan 1986…
Awesome! Thank you both so much. Richard.
I had the pleasure of meeting and chatting with shuttle astronauts Hoot Gibson a few years ago at Oshkosh and with Charles Precourt this summer at Oshkosh. I mentioned to a friend these test pilot / astronauts are amazing guys. He replied “They put their pants on the same way we do.” I said no, these are extraordinary men and good guys to talk with, friendly and unpretentious. From the video I can see Paul Dye is cut from a similar mold. Enjoyed the interview Paul B.
Mach 2.5?! I had no idea, and they glide that monster in. What an enjoyable interview. Thanks for the content.
I think you mean 25.0 Mach. Not IAS though, that's the orbital velocity. Slowing down a few hundred mph from that means the vehicle is committed to reentry.
@@DrMackSplackem it may well have been that speed, I thought I heard them say mach 2.5 as they re entered around 80,000 feet. Regardless pretty bloody fast. Have a good day.
@@gavinhammond1778 Oh, that could be. By the time they reach 80,000 feet they've been out of the cooker for some time.
@@DrMackSplackemtechnically it’s hitting 25 Mach during re-entry than after after cross over hits around 6.5mach
Wow. Thank you very much to both gentlemen for your time, insight, experience and service.
fantastic interview! if anyone wants to experience what a touchdown from orbital speed feels like, i highly recommend "flight of nova". great respect for the folks who actually did that in real life!
I could listen to Paul talk for hours. Great video!!!!!!
An amazing interview with some amazing video. Thanks so much!!
Paul, outstanding interview!
Top notch interview Paul! Fascinating stuff.
Great discussion, gentlemen! Really enjoyed it!
Thank you gentlemen, very informative.
A great video about a fantastic machine.
Thanks for the video 👍
Fascinating subject to hear the technical details of.
Fascinating, interesting use of glider techniques. I came across one of Paul's old articles the other day in one of my older magazines ✌️💜👍😊
Paul (and Paul),
Thank you for this.
Paul (in MA)
Thank you!
We flew from OR to FL to watch Atlantis’s last launch… was a spectacular experience!
Wow. Respect!
Thank you for sharing. Must have been something. I'm in Ca. Always wanted to see one land. I remember seeing pictures of the one they took to LA when they were dragging it through the streets down there. Awesome! Maybe some day I'll get there to see it.
Chilean here: Easter Island's runway was extended by Nasa in 1985 by 1,420 feet to the 11,055 feet required for a shuttle landing to be usable as a Shuttle landing option...
I don't hate Astronauts but I love Trees.
I'm sorry for the Trees that are gone.
If you are losing 80.000ft on a single 360 in any vehicle calling that thing a glider is really stretching it.
Either that’s a really long 360 or the Shuttle flew like a pile of bricks 🧱. Maybe a combination of both.
If it wasn't a glider, it would just fall...
Even though the glide ratio isn't anywhere near a glider plane, it still is a glider.
There will never be another vehicle like the shuttle. One of a kind!
The soviets tried with Buran, yet their program ran into a hiccup called 'national fragmentation'.
Crewed Dream Chaser appears to be on the way. Not as big but will rocket to orbit and land like a plane.
Great conversation! Now I want to go look up the glide ratio, approach and stall speeds on The Brick.
Same here, I can’t believe they burned off 80k ft in a left 360 😂
Unreal!!!
Living in FL, I saw a couple Shuttles coming in for landing right over me near Lake Okeechobee. They were hauling ass, so much faster than normal planes.
thanks Pauls. the plasma blackout was solved by uplink to comm sats much earlier than the shuttle...it was needed to control icbms durring reentry. that probably means nasa had voice com to Columbia ... any thoughts on that?
Ha! Love Paul’s last sentiment…it choked me up and brought tears to my eyes too when I walked through the doors and saw Atlantis hanging there on display! What a cool interview…I’m a huge shuttle nerd and still learned a whole bunch more from it. Would love to hear more with Paul!
I remember Columbia shaking the house as a little kid in early eighties SoCal. We knew what it was, so no earthquake nerves, but that's what it felt like. Like the floor dropped out from under me. Made me laugh. I watched two Edward's landings. I was in grade school watching TV in class when we lost Challenger. That hurt. I think that hurt everyone. Separate tangent; cool Paint job on his little jet.
I went to an open house at the Downey plant and saw the tail end of one of these being built......... wonder which one it was ? .... it was impressive.
So if/when the Crewed Dream Chaser becomes a reality, a similar experience will once again be possible.
Dropping 80,000ft in one go around is crazy.
must see for sure KSC
Been hand flying it since second grade.
Thank God for people like Paul Dye, I would rather dig ditches the rest of my life than do what he did. I'm a big fan of gravity, fresh air, proper plumbing, daily showers, fishing, swimming, golfing, barbecuing, and all those other things us earthbound people take for granted. If it was insisted upon that I go into space I would run like D.B. Cooper and spend the rest of my life in hiding!
So I might have missed it but did they have a flight director and some sort of v nav to monitor their vertical position. Other then the ground crew. I’m imagining it like a descend via on a star…..x 1000
I was 19 in 1981 and traveled from St. Pete to the cape to watch Columbia fly for the first time. We got there before dawn and hung out in a crowded bar along the river waiting. There was a poster on the wall at the other end of the bar which was the shuttle on the launch pad at night and the captioned read “ For all of you that’s for the Space shuttles crew this Buds for you” I made up my mind that I was going to liberate that poster and made my way across the bar, I sat with my back to the poster and when the time was right I made my move but when I turned around the poster was gone. We watched the launch and I have never forgot that day.
Growing up my father was a Mercury, Gemini, Apollo Engineer so KSC is a special place to me.
At 13:18 in the video there is what looks like a Delta jet miles behind as the shuttle is turning final. Is that normal for an airliner to be that close to the approach pattern? Thanks for this amazing video.
It was probably a nasa chase aircraft.
I'm sure that commercial airliner was many MANY miles away from the shuttle, what you're seeing is the extreme foreshortening distortion that's a characteristic of very long focal length lenses.
Paul Dye has good beer choice flying dog ale!
So explain to me how you can be in reentry with the black heatshield needing to be facing the way you’re falling yet he said you can bank it upto 90*. The heat shielding is only on the bottom and rolled a little over the LE. How can you fall sideways then when the top of the wings and side of the shuttle isn’t shielded??
Because at the altitude where that maneuvering is happening, the vehicle is above the sensible atmosphere. Serious heating hasn't started yet.
It was great to see the shuttle landing. I feel a real loss about the program. Why do they wait til the last second to drop the gear. There is no missed approach.
Likely Vlo/le restriction
The shuttle was an incredible machine, it’s a shame that the design couldn’t be perfected.
NASA had 40 years to iterate on it. However, I doubt their budgets during that period allowed the freedom to iterate.
Yup, building on the success of the airframe with newer more reliable technologies would have been great, but NASA was deprived the budget. However for being the most complex experimental machine ever built it did amazing. We lost two shuttles, but in neither case was the shuttle at fault. It was the simple stuff that failed, like designing a field joint that could withstand the “cold” of Florida, and figuring out how to stick foam to the external fuel tank. One of the main reasons for the foam was to prevent ice build up on the tank which could fall off and damage the orbiter. Then of course the foam itself peeled off and damaged the orbiter.
Well, that explains my repeated failures on the public video game simulators at Space Center Houston. I think I must have had 2 APUs fail. 😂 But it is a poor workman who blames his tools. 😢
I wonder if they are able to get any/use the engines on descent? I’d imagine even minimal margins of power in reserve would be used if the fuel or thrust was available.
I believe they were used in a complimentary fashion during launch.
Crazy to here that Easter Island was a divert - almost one of the most remote places on waste! Imagine getting that shuttle back home? Or knocking a couple of moai over during landing like a game of millennial pinball.
Great interview. Wish it was three times as long.
How ironic they’re both infront of a green screen.
Soci how you been Paul fixing the Armstrong earth f q yet still
I got a Peroni 😂
Computers control every part of flight for landing.
Kick Arse
Liars
Well....Firstly....You have to be a good liar....
Hey AVweb, when not flying in a noisy aircraft you don't need your microphone inside your mouth... Great topic video!
Ha, it's easy to land a modified jet with two engines in the rear
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