I Can Show You Exactly Why Israel Should Exist

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  • @wytemamba9219
    @wytemamba9219 Місяць тому +316

    I stand with Israel not terrorists.

    • @dblum
      @dblum 26 днів тому +11

      @NavyPatriotCombatVet "For once"??? Please do research. The first Arab-Israeli War was a war where Israel received no help from America but the Arabs did receive help.

    • @DannyJava
      @DannyJava 25 днів тому

      @NavyPatriotCombatVet That is the most insane thing I've ever read. Israel is lifting the weight of the world with the wars they won with and without foreign aid. You're over here bitching about the only beacon of freedom and democracy in the middle east.

    • @GGreenix
      @GGreenix 21 день тому

      @@dblum The arabs were a bunch of gangs which rounded up to kill as many jews as possible and America started to support Israel in the mid 60's

    • @Talisman1010
      @Talisman1010 18 днів тому

      Agreed. Most people who support Palestine have very little knowledge on the entire history of what led up to the war and most of them are stupid liberals who didn't even know Palestine existed 10 years ago. It's a joke. Free Isreal from the terrorist nations its surrounded from.🇮🇱

    • @Horizon0505iije
      @Horizon0505iije 18 днів тому +2

      @@dblumthey got support from the British though lmao

  • @brianoconner3090
    @brianoconner3090 Місяць тому +725

    It is nice to listen to these conversations where both parties talk and listen to each other.

    • @Ibn_Abdulaziz1405
      @Ibn_Abdulaziz1405 29 днів тому

      Israel can exist in texas. Or is he anti-semitic, calling for genocide?

    • @binghamguevara6814
      @binghamguevara6814 19 днів тому

      These conversations are forced by the state. No choice involved.

    • @YourKyckling
      @YourKyckling 19 днів тому +1

      @@binghamguevara6814 Hahahah please elaborate

    • @jacoblongbrake8230
      @jacoblongbrake8230 17 днів тому

      No offense I believe in a higher power But if you told me the guy down, the road named Jesus walked on water. I would say you're crazy, and you need help. So why is it true for the past but not for the present

    • @De6d
      @De6d 8 днів тому

      @@binghamguevara6814 no, some people can actually converse without being emotional in the discussion or disagreement

  • @grm3334
    @grm3334 Місяць тому +491

    That’s how a civilised conversation should be. God bless Charlie and that young man.

    • @iamlightsunshine6628
      @iamlightsunshine6628 Місяць тому

      None of them realy know what Jesus said and what he meant. I can also remind that Jesus was a jewish rabbi, an Israeli and called himself king of jews, celebrated Jewish holidays., hated Roman invaders

    • @thefella131
      @thefella131 29 днів тому +1

      Think you might have used the wrong pronouns there.

    • @greatgordonfan7094
      @greatgordonfan7094 28 днів тому +8

      @@thefella131 Bruh. He is wearing a Megadeth shirt. He is clearly just a metalhead 🤦‍♂.

    • @jencedever2990
      @jencedever2990 23 дні тому

      His @ is Wescas go follow him

    • @jacoblongbrake8230
      @jacoblongbrake8230 17 днів тому +1

      No offense I believe in a higher power But if you told me the guy down, the road named Jesus walked on water. I would say you're crazy, and you need help. So why is it true for the past but not for the present

  • @KKoserYaks
    @KKoserYaks Місяць тому +513

    The Megadeth shirt was a good indicator that this conversation was going to go better than you thought.

    • @AberranceMetal
      @AberranceMetal Місяць тому +34

      I thought the same thing. And also cool to see another fellow Christian who likes megadeth

    • @user_xsr
      @user_xsr Місяць тому +38

      Yep ill take a metalhead over any swifties any day now 😅

    • @LibertyPlusTV
      @LibertyPlusTV Місяць тому +6

      Megadeth is such a good band Dystopia is maybe one of the best albums ever made.

    • @OpticHamster69
      @OpticHamster69 Місяць тому +11

      ​@@LibertyPlusTV Rust in Peace is easily one of the best metal albums ever made imo

    • @zeldagoblin
      @zeldagoblin 29 днів тому +2

      Interesting, symphony of destruction makes me think about organised religion.

  • @berealz9701
    @berealz9701 Місяць тому +739

    What a pleasant young man.... God bless him

    • @noelward8047
      @noelward8047 Місяць тому +4

      God looks down and says ... You had one job !

    • @QueenQaffir
      @QueenQaffir Місяць тому +7

      Lol try to tell him he’s a he

    • @AberranceMetal
      @AberranceMetal Місяць тому +25

      @@QueenQaffirjust because he has long hair? So what?

    • @spizarobo6943
      @spizarobo6943 Місяць тому +15

      Going by his Megadeth tshirt I think he is just a metalhead

    • @anastasia-fr1gn
      @anastasia-fr1gn Місяць тому +5

      @@QueenQaffiruh, what?

  • @fishinnewengland4807
    @fishinnewengland4807 Місяць тому +544

    Very polite productive talk for once.

    • @noelward8047
      @noelward8047 Місяць тому

      Haha 'Girl' hair walked off ... unaware of the whole World seeing how silly 'He' has !

    • @alanakafang6143
      @alanakafang6143 Місяць тому +18

      @@noelward8047 you should take a long look in the mirror and judge thyself Noel

    • @Michael-RS56
      @Michael-RS56 Місяць тому +4

      @@noelward8047I bet you think you “judge righteously”

    • @_Lil_Fil_
      @_Lil_Fil_ Місяць тому

      polite sure, but i dont know about productive

    • @johnnunn8688
      @johnnunn8688 28 днів тому

      @@noelward8047that makes zero sense, shag.

  • @paulwarren4256
    @paulwarren4256 Місяць тому +99

    And remember pre 1967 Jerusalem was cut in two and the holy sites controlled by the Jordanians were not accessible, that gravestones from the Jewish cemeteries were used in the urinals of the Intercontinental Hotel, that snipers in the Jordanian section fired into the Israeli side. Since then the sites have been opened for everyone - other than Jewish restrictions to Temple Mount.

    • @AzuraeLyonheart
      @AzuraeLyonheart 10 днів тому

      The war that Muslim Arabs started and lost, and repeated to since degree a few times to?

  • @genez2043
    @genez2043 Місяць тому +187

    Put glasses on that dude and he’s Garth from Wayne’s world

  • @zandertraveler2083
    @zandertraveler2083 Місяць тому +51

    What a great interaction, I love seeing how some of these kids are smart and respectful

  • @benfields7707
    @benfields7707 Місяць тому +74

    What a pleasant debate. God bless them both

  • @nomer440
    @nomer440 Місяць тому +45

    wow a debate that actually looks like a debate

    • @bar506
      @bar506 22 дні тому +1

      Ikr? Instead of yelling "free palestine" or "from the river..." they actually talking 😂

  • @lihizigdon
    @lihizigdon 11 днів тому +5

    As a Jewish Israeli I question our government every single day and hold them responsible for October 7th. If they listened to the observing soldiers (the girls who are now hostages) this could have been prevented

  • @Ace96x10
    @Ace96x10 Місяць тому +134

    Islam says Christ is a "Great Prophet", but ask them "what did he prophesize" , and they can't answer with anything. They lie.

    • @Scott.Kristiansen
      @Scott.Kristiansen Місяць тому +12

      Why don't you expound on what the Talmud has to say about Christ? ? ? Hmmm I bet you won't.

    • @meowtx9031
      @meowtx9031 Місяць тому +14

      Jesus peace be upon him are great prophet. Even his mother vrigin mary is great mother.
      In islam we belive Jesus son of Mary will return so does christian. Go and ask any jewish do they believe in return of Jesus or did they believe Jesus is born from virgin Mary. I'll wait.
      And who are the one make roman crucified jesus did the islam or jew.

    • @difficsambalao
      @difficsambalao Місяць тому +5

      @@Scott.Kristiansen talmud? do christians believe talmud? SMH

    • @difficsambalao
      @difficsambalao Місяць тому +17

      @@meowtx9031 maryam 28 says maryam also was the sister of aaron who was brother of moses. so don't bring islam taqqiya when discussing Jesus Christ

    • @bzwosky4348
      @bzwosky4348 Місяць тому +15

      ​@@meowtx9031Since the Quran agrees that Jesus was sinless and born of a virgin, why then do you follow Muhammed who was neither? Sammy Tanago is a great source of info on this if you want that kind of information.

  • @Aaronjames2023
    @Aaronjames2023 25 днів тому +8

    as a Latter Day Saint, just clarifying, in 18'00's the early days of the church Joseph Smith (the prophet) sent an apostle called Orson Hyde to bless the land for the return of the Jews way before they gathered after the 2nd world war, so yes we definitley believe in Israel as a literal gathering place for the Jews.

  • @classic.cameras
    @classic.cameras Місяць тому +48

    This young rocker has great taste in Heavy Metal. Love Megadeth!!!

    • @brettallen1440
      @brettallen1440 29 днів тому

      Megadeath is good but Metallica is better.

    • @elbentzo
      @elbentzo 29 днів тому +1

      @@brettallen1440 I simultaneously agree and am triggered by that sentecnce xD

    • @toragic3432
      @toragic3432 28 днів тому +1

      @@brettallen1440 wrong… just… plain wrong…

    • @ThaSkwaQc
      @ThaSkwaQc 9 днів тому

      @@brettallen1440and wow wait hold on a minute let’s not go down that path 😂🫡

  • @imacomputer1234
    @imacomputer1234 Місяць тому +56

    Great discussion. This is how all debates should be.

  • @christineweston5242
    @christineweston5242 Місяць тому +90

    I and many members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints )- some say LDS -) support the existence etc. of Israel.

    • @Pinoy_Central
      @Pinoy_Central Місяць тому

      You and 99% of Christendom will defend The Anointed One

    • @dudebro91-fn7rz
      @dudebro91-fn7rz Місяць тому

      You're a cult

    • @glennjohn3919
      @glennjohn3919 Місяць тому +9

      That's wonderful. However you should consider believing in God's finished revelatory product, The Bible and avoid filtering it through new revelation. The Bible says we are positionally made righteous, ASIDE from works, ordinances, and obedience to the law...it's only by faith in Christ alone (Romans 4:5). Know you're a sinner, men are not good and are naturally inclined toward sin (Romans 3:10,23). Faith in Christ determines your final resting place and nothing else .

    • @JesusAteWithTaxCollectors
      @JesusAteWithTaxCollectors Місяць тому

      ​@@glennjohn3919 Amen. LDS theology is fascinating

    • @patriciaalber367
      @patriciaalber367 29 днів тому +1

      @@Pinoy_Central Don't know anything about mormonism, do you?

  • @shalomtubul1801
    @shalomtubul1801 29 днів тому +39

    As someone who is Israeli and Jewish, I sincerely appreciate you and would like to extend an invitation for you to visit Israel. In regards to your statement about the intelligence failure, I respectfully disagree. There was documentation of Hamas training near the fence, and while we were hesitant to start a war, our focus on defense was not enough. Unfortunately, we have lost many lives as a result. It is clear now that there is no room for weakness in the Middle East. Even Bibi has acknowledged finding an attack without the backing of the United States. While there was certainly an intelligence failure, I believe there was a much bigger failure in our perception of the situation (they will not attack...we are strong.... And etc).

  • @jasonhutchins9239
    @jasonhutchins9239 Місяць тому +26

    But can it exist without us sending them billions per year in aid

    • @G360LIVE
      @G360LIVE Місяць тому +7

      Exactly. They should be able to exist on their own.
      Also, American tax dollars should only go to what directly benefits Americans. We should have the best of everything, but we can't have nice things because we send our money everywhere else.

    • @joshuain2771
      @joshuain2771 Місяць тому +18

      @@G360LIVE We send money to every country that allows us to have bases there. This is for US global hegemony in which you do benefit from.

    • @nostro1001
      @nostro1001 Місяць тому

      ​@@G360LIVEAlas, you clearly don't understand foreign policy and aid. In Israel's case money sent there directly helps America. There's been a long relationship since Israel's inception. Although, you cannot see, the relationship has been a two way street, especially in more recent times as Israel is a world leader in technology aside from many others things and works closely with America.
      Perhaps sending billions to places like Iran or indirectly funding Hamas terrorists should be examined. 🤔
      Isn't it odd that the top tier Hamas leadership are all multi billionaires, yet their population somehow struggles with many basic things!

    • @bassandtrebleclef
      @bassandtrebleclef Місяць тому +1

      @@G360LIVE To which Americans are you referring? Because there is A LOT wrong with the "who benefits" question you raise. Singling out one element of the thousands smells like something it may not be.

    • @dark3031
      @dark3031 Місяць тому +12

      It existed when it was attacked by 5 countries in 1948, they can probably do it again.
      I do believe US will have some form of interest to maintain a Jewish state in Middle East, but currently this interest is outweighed by the constant invasion of its own borders.
      I believe that Islam is never a religion of peace, so if they don't have a clear target of Israel, they'll target something else to expand their territory or power.

  • @ImYourOverlord
    @ImYourOverlord Місяць тому +12

    The young man sounds refreshingly like his eyes, mind, and heart are open. Impressive 🙂

  • @DannySmith66679
    @DannySmith66679 Місяць тому +33

    Wait till this dude realizes that Dave Mustaine who sings for megadeth is a conservative Christian. And I’ll be seeing them on the tour this summer!

    • @ca8944
      @ca8944 Місяць тому

      Is he?
      I need to tell my son that bc he’s a fan.

    • @johnnunn8688
      @johnnunn8688 28 днів тому

      Which dude, Charlie?

  • @musclechic2001
    @musclechic2001 Місяць тому +20

    This was a great discussion. We don't all have to agree 100% but being able to defend your position and belief in a rational and logical way is wonderful, and refreshing to hear from the younger generation. Totally respect that.

  • @Broomba51
    @Broomba51 Місяць тому +23

    The guy is wearing a Megadeth shirt -- one of the albums deal with religion, war, and government corruption. A song from that album is called Holy Wars.....Punishment Due. Megadeth is a very Conversative Heavy Metal band in support of democracies in Israel.

    • @grenademaster8981
      @grenademaster8981 28 днів тому

      Dave Mustaine who wrote the vast bulk of the music has always been anti-establishment not necessarily conservative. "Foreclosure of Dream" mocks George H. W. Bush, rightfully so, but in later albums he also mocks Obama's "Hope and Change". He really just calls out BS in government where he sees it. However, I would say he leans conservative especially now.

    • @Broomba51
      @Broomba51 28 днів тому

      @@grenademaster8981 Bush is no where near a conservative -- he is a globalist, neo-con big government tool.

  • @janbaer3241
    @janbaer3241 22 дні тому +2

    If you think supporting America's allies is expensive, wait until you find out the cost of abandoning them.

    • @HIAMHIGH
      @HIAMHIGH 20 днів тому

      what would happen

  • @Onlythenarrowroad
    @Onlythenarrowroad Місяць тому +5

    Jesus was Jewish.

  • @MichaelGernold
    @MichaelGernold Місяць тому +28

    Guy was raised well!

    • @Southernguy39
      @Southernguy39 29 днів тому

      The kid is a Mormon, so not really.

    • @FirstDateFrt
      @FirstDateFrt 29 днів тому

      Except with no knowledge of the God who made him, otherwise why would he be in a cult?

  • @chrispile3878
    @chrispile3878 Місяць тому +47

    Personally, I prefer the King James Version.

    • @FoogleBoogle
      @FoogleBoogle Місяць тому +3

      i prefer Reality and Truth. That's why I'm not Religious

    • @billbilly2797
      @billbilly2797 Місяць тому +2

      @@FoogleBoogleyou’ll never convince someone who arrived at a conclusion without any fact or reason to sway from that belief using any fact or reason.

    • @billbilly2797
      @billbilly2797 Місяць тому

      @@FoogleBoogleBut I do agree haha

    • @FoogleBoogle
      @FoogleBoogle Місяць тому

      @@billbilly2797 in other words
      you'll never convince people if they've been brainwashed

    • @Michael-RS56
      @Michael-RS56 Місяць тому +19

      ⁠@@FoogleBoogleyou edgy internet atheists are getting kind of old at this point 🥱

  • @GlockSnW
    @GlockSnW Місяць тому +18

    Very mature conversation. What a great listen

  • @oreally8605
    @oreally8605 Місяць тому +228

    Know your history. Charlie Kirk does. No Christian should be against Israel.

    • @N0T1C3R0FtH1NGS
      @N0T1C3R0FtH1NGS Місяць тому

      Shabbos Goy
      That assertion by itself is proof that you do not “know your history”

    • @nunziomeatballs
      @nunziomeatballs Місяць тому

      And no Jew should be against a European Christian homeland/culture, it needs to work both ways

    • @Aaron-xl3rk
      @Aaron-xl3rk Місяць тому +6

      Charlie claims that God has a covenant with Abraham to bless his children and the nations with the land, Israel. Through faith in Christ even gentiles are made children of Abraham (Gal 4:28). Throughout history the Jewish people disobeyed God, were exiled and restored many times to the point of rejecting His Son. Israel will be restored when Christ sits on the throne in Jerusalem, and as it currently exists, the nation state of Israel is in disobedience to Christ our Lord. Even non-zionist jews recognize that Israel will be restored spiritually, not just physically and politically.

    • @nunziomeatballs
      @nunziomeatballs Місяць тому

      Yes and no Jews should be against a European Christian homeland/culture and homogenous society, just like how Israel wants in its borders.

    • @SwiFTDBL
      @SwiFTDBL Місяць тому +10

      But also you shouldn’t blindly follow / support something that is actively making bad decisions.

  • @funtimefoxy6699
    @funtimefoxy6699 29 днів тому +25

    Isla owns enough territory. Israel is the size of New Jersey. The fact that so many people have an issue with the right of Israel JUST TO EXIST tells you how many people make much ado about nothing. Mow your lawn, make your bed, and leave Israel alone.

    • @RazorRico-rn7hb
      @RazorRico-rn7hb 26 днів тому +1

      So other races and religions should get there own states right?

    • @funtimefoxy6699
      @funtimefoxy6699 26 днів тому +1

      @@RazorRico-rn7hb I made no mention of race - but if your religion is coupled with a legal system like Shariah, then yeah, you need to keep a leash on it. It is not female-friendly and is overtly hostile to homosexual and, apparently, Jews.
      But you seem to be okay with that. Speaks volumes about your character.

    • @RazorRico-rn7hb
      @RazorRico-rn7hb 26 днів тому

      @@funtimefoxy6699 semites are a race.

    • @nicelydone5800
      @nicelydone5800 26 днів тому +1

      ​@@RazorRico-rn7hb are acting like there isn't 20+ Muslim Arab countries? Or 50+ Muslim countries or 60+ christian countries or Hindu countries or asian countries? And yet people call Israel a colonial state when it's one of the smallest countries and it's anti colonial we survived every single empire that occupied the land.

    • @ohcharlie428
      @ohcharlie428 24 дні тому

      Hostile to Christians too...check into the recent history of Lebanon. ​@@funtimefoxy6699

  • @adamheld2971
    @adamheld2971 29 днів тому +7

    There is a simple answer to the question why Israel should backed up by US. Because that’s what allies do.

    • @mediadrive100
      @mediadrive100 26 днів тому

      But not at the cost of our people I agree with Kirk support Israel as a country not the government and while aiding our allies is good it shouldn't come at the cost of the US

    • @adamheld2971
      @adamheld2971 26 днів тому

      @@mediadrive100 that is what alliance is - sometimes it’s costly.

    • @mediadrive100
      @mediadrive100 26 днів тому +1

      No that's called taking advantage of our kindness

    • @alexpham7178
      @alexpham7178 17 годин тому

      @@mediadrive100 right... 26 billion dollars is absurd

  • @watchingthewheelsgoround260
    @watchingthewheelsgoround260 Місяць тому +13

    This was a great conversation!

  • @acdfg3
    @acdfg3 Місяць тому +15

    the kid was very well mannered, did not shout over him and listened to what he has to say. That is how you debate

  • @ptrborys
    @ptrborys Місяць тому +6

    This posted interaction was very beautiful to hear. Mr. Kirk and a open-minded and respectful student sharing views on a topic that shouldnt be up for debate. Love and respect. Cheers

  • @joleedaae884
    @joleedaae884 28 днів тому +2

    He was respectful. That speaks volumes of his character.

  • @mbryan4964
    @mbryan4964 Місяць тому +31

    Charlie is rather amazing.

    • @qwertpoo1
      @qwertpoo1 Місяць тому +3

      He really really is. We would be fucked without him

    • @Chase0267
      @Chase0267 Місяць тому +1

      Agreed!

    • @FoogleBoogle
      @FoogleBoogle Місяць тому +1

      meh, i liked him before I knew he was a radical religous

    • @qwertpoo1
      @qwertpoo1 Місяць тому +2

      @@FoogleBoogle radical is wild to say lol you seem like a radical atheist

    • @FoogleBoogle
      @FoogleBoogle Місяць тому +1

      @@qwertpoo1 maybe he should for once just keep religion out of it. Definitely radical. Especially if you think I am.

  • @javierfarfan1628
    @javierfarfan1628 29 днів тому +5

    As a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, I can tell you, that part of our doctrine is that Israel would be restored to its ancient land. So, Charlie's beliefs and LDS's beliefs are in harmony on this subject. I think our young scholar has not read his scriptures or missed his gospel doctrine classes.

  • @ca8944
    @ca8944 Місяць тому +5

    They both really need to look into the “religion of peace”.
    They also believe that Jesus will come back and delete Jews and Christians.
    He’s just picking and choosing some passages in the Bible and the Quran.

  • @youngorel1402
    @youngorel1402 21 день тому +1

    thank you charlie ❤️

  • @Sarfnic
    @Sarfnic 21 день тому +1

    Great debate, wow, everyone was respecting of their differing opinions.

  • @danlo7698
    @danlo7698 Місяць тому +50

    I stand with America! 🇺🇲
    I stand with Israel 🇮🇱
    I stand for God ✝️
    I stand for Freedom!

    • @sheehan92
      @sheehan92 Місяць тому

      I stand with America, Israel and freedom. God doesnt even exist and religious people like Charlie Kirk and quick to pander to the left and muslims for some votes before the election.

    • @paulinegmur2221
      @paulinegmur2221 27 днів тому +1

      Amen

    • @pauls7803
      @pauls7803 26 днів тому

      God is not for freedom. There is no freedom of religious belief in Christianity. The US constitution enshrines that

    • @RevanoRasyikh
      @RevanoRasyikh 13 днів тому

      u stand with genocide? u stand with killing innocents children? u stand with illegal occupation?

    • @tabaluga9890
      @tabaluga9890 8 днів тому

      So you agree when Israel destroys Orthodox Churches and kill Christians with the approbation of the USA ?

  • @jkgcank9
    @jkgcank9 Місяць тому +17

    We’ve already seen what happens to important biblical, religious, archaeological sites when the so called palestinians have possession of the land. It gets destroyed.

    • @ash870
      @ash870 27 днів тому +3

      Classical Israeli response

    • @ash870
      @ash870 27 днів тому

      All hail the United States of Israel!!!
      Even Palestine took more work to steal 😂😂😂.

    • @jumanamen1026
      @jumanamen1026 27 днів тому +1

      No they don't?? Palestinians have protected the lands for centuries. Who bombed the churches in Gaza? Wasn't Palestinians.

    • @DVS_BSTD
      @DVS_BSTD 27 днів тому

      ​@@jumanamen1026might have been

    • @jumanamen1026
      @jumanamen1026 27 днів тому +2

      @@DVS_BSTD lmao no. The IDF acknowledges they bombed it.

  • @user-sq9bh2hw1c
    @user-sq9bh2hw1c 21 день тому +1

    I was so misinstrued into thinking that a debate was constantly heated, usually that I didn't even recognize this as a debate, more so a friendly conversation

  • @juliewriston980
    @juliewriston980 Місяць тому +109

    Israel isn't going anywhere.. the Bible tells me so.. 😊 God bless you Charlie from Safford Arizona 💖

    • @joaopedrobaggio4475
      @joaopedrobaggio4475 Місяць тому +12

      I am Brazilian, and i will always support the right that Israel has to exist a protect their land.

    • @nunziomeatballs
      @nunziomeatballs Місяць тому

      @@joaopedrobaggio4475yes they should exist but not at the expense of other nations and people that want a homogenous society just like how Israel wantsinside it’s borders

    • @thund3r94
      @thund3r94 Місяць тому +8

      Actually the Bible says all nations will be against Israel in the end, we are close to that

    • @yearight1205
      @yearight1205 Місяць тому +2

      @@thund3r94 We're really not. The Bible also says (in both the Old and New Testament) that in the end of days Israel, Egypt AND Assyria will once again be countries on the world stage. Everyone seems to want to gloss over the part that Assyria isn't a country currently, and that the Assyrian people are spread all across the world due to all the war going on in the Middle East. And given the fact that the Israeli's are on the sides of the Kurds and NOT the Assyrians in ensuring that land goes to the Kurds and NOT the Assyrians, I'm guessing that the "end of days," should that ever be the case, isn't going to happen for anywhere from 200 to 2000 years from now.

    • @thund3r94
      @thund3r94 Місяць тому +5

      @@yearight1205 well will see no one knows the day of the hour of course but it sure seems like we’re nearing that point, and all I was saying is that we are close to all nations being against Israel

  • @gregorysleeth1792
    @gregorysleeth1792 Місяць тому +8

    Very smart and respectful kids

  • @WilRod123
    @WilRod123 28 днів тому +1

    This is one of the most refreshing conversations in a college campus by opposing views I’ve watched in a while! 👏 I appreciate both the kid for being respectful in his views & Charlie for finding common ground but also disagree on certain points. We NEED more conversations like these!!!

  • @NoNeedJustFeed
    @NoNeedJustFeed 29 днів тому +1

    what a nice guy, finally a respectful young man, willing to ask and know, listen. this is the way to peace

  • @conniemorgan8402
    @conniemorgan8402 Місяць тому +6

    Loved the civilized conversation

  • @Aaron-xl3rk
    @Aaron-xl3rk Місяць тому +29

    Charlie, please read Galations 4:28. Even gentiles are considered sons of Abraham by faith in Jesus Christ.

    • @bobbob-zc1nx
      @bobbob-zc1nx 29 днів тому

      Yes we know that, but the jews are still considered the elect(elect means chosen ones) for their fathers sakes. Despite being enemies considering the gospels sake.
      Also God said He would graft them back in when He talked about Israels blindness.
      Just like He grafted the gentiles in through the church.
      This wont happen until the future when all Israel will be saved.
      They will turn to their messiah.
      That doesn't happen until the 70th week of Daniel aka the great tribulation.
      When the world persecuted Israel.
      We as saved believers dont have to wait 70 weeks or until the 70th week of Daniel for God to bring an end to our sin.
      That prophecy was about delivering Israel from its sin, since they constantly kept falling back to it.
      We are cleansed immediately.
      So the prophecy obviously is talking about the people.
      Also God made multiple promises to Israel through Moses and the other prophets, not just Abraham.
      Here is clear scripture proving it.
      Romans
      11 I say then, Hath God cast away his people? God forbid. For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin.
      2 God hath not cast away his people which he foreknew. Wot ye not what the scripture saith of Elias? how he maketh intercession to God against Israel saying,
      3 Lord, they have killed thy prophets, and digged down thine altars; and I am left alone, and they seek my life.
      4 But what saith the answer of God unto him? I have reserved to myself seven thousand men, who have not bowed the knee to the image of Baal.
      Romans
      23 And they also, if they abide not still in unbelief, shall be grafted in: for God is able to graft them in again.
      24 For if thou wert cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature, and wert grafted contrary to nature into a good olive tree: how much more shall these, which be the natural branches, be grafted into their own olive tree?
      25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
      26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
      27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.
      28 As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the father's sakes.
      29 For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance.
      30 For as ye in times past have not believed God, yet have now obtained mercy through their unbelief:
      31 Even so have these also now not believed, that through your mercy they also may obtain mercy.
      32 For God hath concluded them all in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all.

    • @S7evin13
      @S7evin13 29 днів тому +1

      God even distinguishes between the earthly seed (Jews) and the spiritual seed (the true Israel in the eternal covenant with God)

    • @bobbob-zc1nx
      @bobbob-zc1nx 29 днів тому

      @S7evin13 bruh did I get deleted again?

    • @bobbob-zc1nx
      @bobbob-zc1nx 28 днів тому

      Yes we know that, but the jews are still considered the elect(elect means chosen ones) for their fathers sakes. Despite being enemies considering the gospels sake.
      Also God said He would graft them back in when He talked about Israels blindness.
      Just like He grafted the gentiles in through the church.
      This wont happen until the future when all Israel will be saved.
      They will turn to their messiah.
      That doesn't happen until the 70th week of Daniel aka the great tribulation.
      When the world persecuted Israel.
      We as saved believers dont have to wait 70 weeks or until the 70th week of Daniel for God to bring an end to our sin.
      That prophecy was about delivering Israel from its sin, since they constantly kept falling back to it.
      We are cleansed immediately.
      So the prophecy obviously is talking about the people.
      Also God made multiple promises to Israel through Moses and the other prophets, not just Abraham.
      Romans
      11 I say then, Hath God cast away his people? God forbid. For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin.
      2 God hath not cast away his people which he foreknew. Wot ye not what the scripture saith of Elias? how he maketh intercession to God against Israel saying,
      3 Lord, they have killed thy prophets, and digged down thine altars; and I am left alone, and they seek my life.
      4 But what saith the answer of God unto him? I have reserved to myself seven thousand men, who have not bowed the knee to the image of Baal.
      Romans
      23 And they also, if they i not still in unbelief, shall be grafted in: for God is able to graft them in again.
      24 For if thou wert cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature, and wert grafted contrary to nature into a good olive tree: how much more shall these, which be the natural branches, be grafted into their own olive tree?
      25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
      26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
      27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.
      28 As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the father's sakes.
      29 For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance.
      30 For as ye in times past have not believed God, yet have now obtained mercy through their unbelief:
      31 Even so have these also now not believed, that through your mercy they also may obtain mercy.
      32 God hath concluded them all in unbelief, I he might have mercy upon all.

  • @Huku__
    @Huku__ 28 днів тому +1

    Such a wholesome interaction, both acknowledged that they would have disagreements, yet held a polite tone throughout the entire thing, very pleasing to see in contrast to the usual!

  • @AshleyJOsborne
    @AshleyJOsborne Місяць тому +2

    Refreshing to hear respectful discussions. Bravo!

  • @atlasmonologues
    @atlasmonologues Місяць тому +3

    Latter-Day Saints believe in the literal gathering of Israel, which includes the physical gathering of Jews in Jerusalem. It's a doctrine that has been emphasized by our prophet in the past few years, so I'm not sure how a Latter-Day Saint doesn't understand why the Jews should be in Jerusalem.

  • @JeremyWizman-pz7bk
    @JeremyWizman-pz7bk 28 днів тому +3

    Thank you for your support 🇮🇱

  • @Allaiya.
    @Allaiya. 29 днів тому +1

    You can tell this guy was raised right. This is how colleges used to be. Discussions not shouting matches.

  • @SarahSansoni
    @SarahSansoni Місяць тому +1

    This was a nice conversation to watch and I learned from it.

  • @Zax-Magic-Israel
    @Zax-Magic-Israel Місяць тому +4

    2 things to consider, Charlie:
    1. The only time in the History of our land when all religions worshipers are free to practice their fate is under Israel. Between 1948 to 1967, Jews were not allowed to get to the Western Wall in Jerusalem as it was under Jordanian rule.
    2. Up until the creation of the PA in 1994, Christians were 65% of Bethlehem's population. 30 Years later, under Muslim PA, they are about 25%.

    • @patriciaalber367
      @patriciaalber367 29 днів тому +1

      I would add another-mormonism is not Christian

  • @sixxftundr
    @sixxftundr Місяць тому +8

    No U.S. dollars should be spent ANYWHERE except for here in the U.S. FIRST. I do not give a fuck about a thousand year war overseas.

    • @jdrider4149
      @jdrider4149 28 днів тому +1

      It’s worse in Canada bro u should see this bill. They send billion and billion to Ukraine meanwhile everywhere here is going under. Triple grocery prices now. It’s insane

  • @vixencaw7551
    @vixencaw7551 Місяць тому +2

    This conversation was strangely wholesome and I am not complaining

  • @trent7893
    @trent7893 29 днів тому +1

    Very calm and intellectual conversation, would be great to see more of these interactions

  • @ethandavis2373
    @ethandavis2373 Місяць тому +155

    Long live Israel

    • @OGtruthserum
      @OGtruthserum Місяць тому +6

      Not in a million years.

    • @mattlol163
      @mattlol163 Місяць тому +2

      Israel is a place.... not a living thing.

    • @ethandavis2373
      @ethandavis2373 Місяць тому +4

      @@mattlol163 ok?

    • @bzwosky4348
      @bzwosky4348 Місяць тому +14

      ​@@mattlol163It is both a place and a people.

    • @shannonhawkins3296
      @shannonhawkins3296 Місяць тому +5

      @@OGtruthserumantisemitic

  • @CL-hl8ui
    @CL-hl8ui Місяць тому +5

    I love listening to Charlie but I feel like he didn’t explain much here. I wanted him to elaborate on his views instead of just saying “we’re not gonna agree”

  • @Clowns-jd3fl
    @Clowns-jd3fl 24 дні тому +1

    Me being an Israeli: absolutely stunned by how people view us. First - we wanted a state to prevent a second Holocaust. That’s the only reason we are here. Because of violence against Jews.
    I’d say most of us think religion is a poison that makes the world a horrible place. I wish we could’ve have a two state solution but the Palestinians just want to leverage it for another October 7, it happened so many times before, we handed over a piece of land and we got terrorism in favor and not peace. So yes we should occupy it all (just because of security, not that I desire to oppress anyone)

  • @rhondamoore9842
    @rhondamoore9842 Місяць тому +2

    Great conversation between these two!

  • @road_warrior_1
    @road_warrior_1 Місяць тому +7

    Christ is king and Megadeath is better than Metallica
    🤟😉

  • @lincolndasema6694
    @lincolndasema6694 Місяць тому +4

    What an intelligent fella! Christ is King!

    • @patriciaalber367
      @patriciaalber367 29 днів тому

      Trust me, he does not believe Christ is King. He believes Christ is the spirit brother of Lucifer.

    • @Fairfacts
      @Fairfacts 28 днів тому

      ​@@patriciaalber367 The name of the church is: "The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints." We worship Jesus Christ as the Son of God, and as part of the Godhead. We are all spirit children of God. So, I'm curious: who do you think Lucifer is?

    • @bluclowd8182
      @bluclowd8182 26 днів тому

      @@patriciaalber367 A person who says "Christ is King" after demonstrating superior than average knowledge of the gospel, and who belongs to "The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints", doesn't actually believe Christ is King? You've just demonstrated you know very little about his faith.
      But nevermind me, answer what @Fairfacts just said to you, because he just easily checkmated you while revealing your own ignorance of the Bible.

  • @SandraJones-py1bd
    @SandraJones-py1bd 21 день тому +1

    It’s not about our truth-it’s about God’s truth.

  • @glennmathias1805
    @glennmathias1805 Місяць тому +1

    That was a great discussion. We need more of those in everyday life.

  • @sarahmanly7322
    @sarahmanly7322 Місяць тому +8

    You can talk about what you don't like about Israel in Israel. Ask Gazans if they are rewarded the same liberty.
    Also, Israel stands at the gateway of Radical Islams hatred of the west. It is important Israel survive as the only democractic refuge in the Middle East.

  • @BigBass-xf5yi
    @BigBass-xf5yi Місяць тому +12

    So tax payer money to isreal is bad, but taxpayer money to ukrain is fine???
    Ok, gotit !!!!

    • @clarabarton8350
      @clarabarton8350 Місяць тому

      Tax money to Israel = free US weapons research & development. The US is getting back 300% on every dollar sent to Israel. What did Iran and hamas to with the $$$ that Obama-Biden sent?

    • @nostro1001
      @nostro1001 Місяць тому +2

      Taxpayers money to Iran and Hamas (indirectly via UNRWA etc) is also fine. As is selling as weapons to Qatar so they can gift to Hamas.

    • @synewparadigm
      @synewparadigm 28 днів тому

      We don't get anything from Ukraine beside big banks that are enriching themselves and money laundering for the democratic party. We get lots of cooperation in science, military and medicine with israel.

    • @MegaRayland
      @MegaRayland 27 днів тому

      The kid didn’t say or suggest that.

    • @AngloSocDem
      @AngloSocDem 24 дні тому

      Ukraine has more white people.

  • @JipJac
    @JipJac Місяць тому +1

    This was one of the best conversations I’ve seen.

  • @pattiwallace4303
    @pattiwallace4303 Місяць тому +2

    Happy Friday Everybody. That was Great. Thank You CK

  • @markbass354
    @markbass354 Місяць тому +6

    GO TRUMP GO

  • @karleone28
    @karleone28 28 днів тому +14

    The fact that we are even discussing "Israel Should Exist" says that world is in huge trouble.

    • @jumanamen1026
      @jumanamen1026 27 днів тому +2

      No, it really doesn't.

    • @karleone28
      @karleone28 27 днів тому +1

      @@jumanamen1026 The fact that we still hear opinions like yours only proves my point.

    • @AngloSocDem
      @AngloSocDem 24 дні тому

      Why? Why should I care about a Jewish homeland?

  • @lisahoupt1335
    @lisahoupt1335 28 днів тому +1

    The one thing that I admire about this student is too have a peaceful and rational discussion about a very controversial topic. No screaming, yelling. Just a verbal dialogue where they can agree on somethings, but not all things. Most of the time and unfortunately Charlie Kirk is being yelled at or attacked by aggressive students. This was refreshing.

  • @nathangerber1547
    @nathangerber1547 28 днів тому +2

    Weird. I’m also a Latter Day Saint and I definitely believe that the foundation of Israel is a part of the prophesied restoration of the ten tribes.

  • @timhorton9058
    @timhorton9058 Місяць тому +3

    XDEMOCRAT California

  • @grneal26
    @grneal26 Місяць тому +10

    Nice young LDS man.

  • @eyeofrage7025
    @eyeofrage7025 Місяць тому +1

    I do appreciate a calm exchange of ideas 💡

  • @trevorstockwell8290
    @trevorstockwell8290 Місяць тому +2

    Good to see not all who go to college aren't a gone yet or consumed by woke insanity

    • @patriciaalber367
      @patriciaalber367 Місяць тому

      And yet the kid doesn't have enough brains to discern that no angel is going to come almost 2000 years after Christ and tell Joseph Smith to wear a special pair of glasses to read something that noone else was going to be allowed to see because Christianity has been totally wrong for 2000 years. The kid is Mormon

  • @MyGuyYourNotHim
    @MyGuyYourNotHim Місяць тому +4

    I'm from The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints or LDS, but I was caught off guard by how this guy dressed. Gen Z for sure, and glad he didn't make us look bad.

    • @timber72
      @timber72 Місяць тому

      You should leave your death cult. Don't be offended. Consider what I have to say. Everything your Mormon church has taught you has been a lie, and has nothing to do with Jesus, nor He with them. It is "another Jesus" as Paul says in 2 Cor 11:4.

    • @dinocollins720
      @dinocollins720 29 днів тому +1

      Well he didn't meet the BYU dress code haha, but he seems like a good kid

    • @JpVicvega
      @JpVicvega 29 днів тому

      he doesn't need to make us look bad we got Mitt Romney leading the pack on that front but one positive is that at least Harry Reid is finally gone.

  • @yumsanmei
    @yumsanmei Місяць тому +15

    Free Palestine from Islam.

  • @TheFrododentron
    @TheFrododentron 28 днів тому +1

    Why even use religion as argument? Ask him if he's christian, then ask him what would happen to christians, jews, atheists, homosexuals and other minorities there, if Israel wouldn't exist. Answer is probably very simple. They wouldn't

  • @AlexRobles-tl4jd
    @AlexRobles-tl4jd 29 днів тому +1

    I would not have assumed he was Christian. Props to Charlie for asking before judging.

  • @Dorimania
    @Dorimania Місяць тому +11

    Zionism is the long-held belief that the Jewish people have a right to self-determination and a homeland in their ancestral land of Israel. It is not a form of colonialism, as many falsely claim, as Jews have had a continuous presence in the region for over 3,000 years. The ongoing conflict is a result of Palestinian leaders rejecting multiple offers for a peaceful resolution.

    • @tehbone8604
      @tehbone8604 Місяць тому +1

      I declare ownership of Poland because my great ancestor 600 yrs ago was of great value there.

    • @Dorimania
      @Dorimania Місяць тому

      @@tehbone8604 Jews always lived in israel.
      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1834_looting_of_Safed
      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1929_Hebron_massacre

    • @Dorimania
      @Dorimania Місяць тому

      @@tehbone8604
      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1929_Hebron_massacre
      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1834_looting_of_Safed
      how can you say Jews didn't lived in israel? do some research man

    • @Dorimania
      @Dorimania Місяць тому

      @@tehbone8604
      google this : 1834 looting of Safed

    • @Dorimania
      @Dorimania Місяць тому

      ​@@tehbone8604
      You do know that jews always lived in Israel right?
      Google this: 1834 looting of Safed

  • @timhorton9058
    @timhorton9058 Місяць тому +14

    Trump Tucker 2024!

    • @synewparadigm
      @synewparadigm 28 днів тому

      No Tucker. He is to complicated a divisive.

  • @user-bt7ov5gb1f
    @user-bt7ov5gb1f 28 днів тому +1

    from South Africa love your channel🎉

  • @russpeele9882
    @russpeele9882 29 днів тому +1

    well done Charlie!

  • @gil6875
    @gil6875 Місяць тому +7

    As a jew i believe in Jesus

    • @user-iq7th6rd7s
      @user-iq7th6rd7s Місяць тому

      Then you're not a jew can't have it both ways😮

    • @mordi2537
      @mordi2537 29 днів тому +2

      Jesus as what? A man? OK
      God ? You are not a Jew.

    • @edenseal
      @edenseal 28 днів тому

      @Benzley722 Most Jews dont give a crap about the Talmud. Including me.

    • @edenseal
      @edenseal 28 днів тому

      @@mordi2537 Romans 11 talks about the Jews returning to believe in Jesus.

    • @AGENTtoaster-eg4ju
      @AGENTtoaster-eg4ju 26 днів тому

      @Benzley722If a man has a jewish mother he is Jewish

  • @yourmissingsock556boop3
    @yourmissingsock556boop3 Місяць тому +13

    Israel can exist without my taxes, so can ukraine.

    • @havok6280
      @havok6280 Місяць тому

      No. Israel would not exist without financial and military support from the US and Germany. Why do you think they have such a formidable military? It's paid for by us and the Germans.

    • @Webzeey
      @Webzeey Місяць тому

      Yes it can. But it would not be an ally, and if it is not an ally, the west has no power in the Middle East and means Iran gets stronger which means Russia gets stronger. Same with Ukraine. If Russia takes over Ukraine, USA loses the power position. I ain’t even American but it’s common sense.

    • @Mitch_Conner75926
      @Mitch_Conner75926 Місяць тому

      Agreed, until they piss off Iran and get wasted lol which is where it’s going to go. They won’t have the US backing them either cause of our failing military so they’ll be on their own.

    • @FoogleBoogle
      @FoogleBoogle Місяць тому +2

      i tend to agree. I'm struggling severely here and I can't get disability so my times running out but entire countries get essentially a disability check.
      Israel is the good side but ya i hate our money wasted while our countries \ people get nothing.

    • @_Chev_Chelios
      @_Chev_Chelios Місяць тому +3

      Israel can take care of zer self.

  • @danjames99
    @danjames99 29 днів тому +1

    Best phrase to end a conversation, Christ is king 🙏🏼

  • @Itsjustincredible
    @Itsjustincredible 28 днів тому

    This is how all debates and conversations should be handled

  • @l.palmer6747
    @l.palmer6747 Місяць тому +8

    Stand with Isreal.

  • @KeiGambit
    @KeiGambit Місяць тому +6

    "I can show you where jesus walked on water".... i mean yeah, i can show you where i exploded a watermelon with my mind too.

  • @MarkSinger-uk5wz
    @MarkSinger-uk5wz 28 днів тому +1

    I am an Israeli and I love to see christians coming to Israel
    The Church of the Holy Sepulchre is a really great experience

  • @johnlightner1503
    @johnlightner1503 Місяць тому +1

    It’s nice to hear an intellectual discussion between a young gentleman an Kirk. I applauded them both for their ability to discuss an very complex situation.

  • @AverageMitch1987
    @AverageMitch1987 Місяць тому +5

    Nope. Not America’s problem. America needs to get our own house in order.

  • @USMC0842
    @USMC0842 Місяць тому +4

    Is that a man?

  • @jameslauder3984
    @jameslauder3984 22 дні тому

    Wow, an actual productive conversation with a college student that was polite and civil. Has to be a freak of nature.

  • @d0narroyo
    @d0narroyo 26 днів тому +2

    Were should the Jewish people go if there is no Isreal?

  • @Dorimania
    @Dorimania Місяць тому +5

    israel💗💗💗💗💗💗💗