Is Disney+ Good Enough? Star Wars Trilogy 4K Blu-ray Review
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- Опубліковано 25 сер 2024
- We review the original Star Wars trilogy on 4k bluray in Dolby Atmos.
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Now I'm hoping for lord of the rings 4k
Coming this summer
@@VulturePilot 😱😱😱
@@jimcameron1234 Source?
Peter Jackson will try, unlike Disney
And will wait Back to the future 😏
Disney went cheap and used 66gb discs instead of 100gb discs, tsk tsk! With disc we all want the best bitrates possible!
Frozen grain is a huge problem on these discs
for 120 minutes runtime. 66gb bluray is good enough.
Disney wants to kill physical media. That's why you only get HDR on physical and Dolby Vision on Disney +, crappy move by Disney, smh.
Bitrate isn't the problem with these, it's the processing.
@@JoelRamos14 could be, but with Dolby Vision they had to pay rolayties, and with HDR 10 or 10+ Donts. They may want to kill physical, but they are stingy
Nothing beats physical media
Frozen grain is a huge problem on these discs
@@vebjorngrytten7629 Exactly why I stuck with my blu-rays. If anything just upgrade Revenge of the Sith as apparently that's the best UHD of the bunch for Ep 1-6.
@@zanfear I support your plan 100%
FWIW, Return of the Jedi was shot with a diffusion filter which adds to the softness of the movie compared to the previous films.
Do you know why they used that? To help mask a few of the weaker special effects?
That’s weird. Out of the 4K fan transfers, Return of the Jedi is by far the sharpest
4K83 was from a very well preserved film print compared to the print(s) scanned for 4K77.
sade1212 That’s true. Sometimes I forget about the process behind the scenes. Those guys really deserve more credit
Found the same thing too. Oppo 205/LG C9.
My boy Shane with the xxxs star wars t-shirt
This made me chuckle lol
💪🏽💪🏽
Showing off the garter snakes 🐍
Hahaha get him! This man said you lookin "tasty" yo 🤣🤣😂
can't wait to get the new Star Wars movies in 4K and the skywalker saga movies collection
Shane always putting out quality content with consistency. I wish I had that kind of money the setup he owns.
When they are $15-20 I’ll upgrade my regular blu-ray collection
Pieter Balk I live in the US, they are $30ea now
check ebay, you can buy them for $20 each there.
I'd rather get all movies on Blu-ray 3D than in 4K, if 3D makes a comeback some day.
If you got the right 4K setup, it looks just like 3D wo the glasses and ghosting. Better dephs and color spectrum too not to mention better framerate during action sequences
@@chrislawson3134 It really doesn't. I have an LG C8 and a friend of mine has the E6, which was one of the last (and best) 3D TVs you could get. I actually prefer just getting 4K discs because of the added HDR and WCG, and also because the "3D effect" is simply lost on me after about twenty minutes and I may as well be watching a better looking image that doesn't have it. Having said that, the effect is absolutely NOT the same at all. The 3D on the E6 is crazy good and clear thanks to being a 4K screen that can actually get full 1080p 3D, which wasn't possible before.
Now if you want to compare contrast between various panel types, going all the way back to 2006, Plasmas looked waaaaaay better than your typical LCD screen, and many said the image "popped" and was almost 3D like (it really wasn't though). It simply looked more natural and the contrast blew away a non plasma, especially if you went up in tiers to get the Kuro. Fast-forward to now and you have a similar scenario where OLED has even better contrast than what plasmas had, which were already better than LCD. Even though local dimming (FALD) screens can look really good nowadays, they still have many issues with blooming or haloing that still make them overall look worse than an OLED, and even plasmas in some cases.
@@chrislawson3134 lol what an idiot. how does 4k ever look like 3D? man some people talk out of their ass.
Aren't all the clips of footage used in this video actually from the 2011 1080p Blurays? They have a noticeable magenta tint in the highlights and oversaturated reds, which the new releases do not suffer from as badly. This is especially apparent on the stupid SE droid slapstick shot, which is cropped more aggressively at the top on the new releases.
Good spot - some of the footage of the films used in this video seem not to actually be from the recent 4K UHD release (neither the physical disc, or from Disney+) - which is somewhat confusing... Can you confirm this please, SpareChange? Many thanks.
Good eyes! You’re correct!
Physical all day baby! 😎🤙🏽
Frozen grain is a huge problem on these discs
@@vebjorngrytten7629 Please stop spamming this same stupid comment on multiple posts. I assume you mean 'film grain', which will show on some older movies whether they're on disc or streaming. The only reason grain might be clearer on disc is that all detail is clearer on disc!
@@rosstee but you agree with the grain problem, then why do you think my comment was stupid.
@@vebjorngrytten7629 I agree that some movies have film grain, but it's not a problem to me - most of the time I don't even notice it. I prefer grain not to be removed because that usually removes details as well.
watched ep 4 Sat and it blows away the D+ version. For the first time I I actually noticed all the dents and scruff on C3PO.
That's because you were looking I saw them on vhs when I was a kid
Frozen grain is a huge problem on these discs
not sure what size and quality tv you were watching because even on the bluray version I could see the cracked plating/scuffs around c3p0 neck area ect.... though not as clear as on 4K
Bluray.com weren't particularly kind to the video quality on these. I'm still going to stick with my pre order for the atmos mix. I'm glad the 35mm 4k scans are out there online. The work on the scans are outstanding.
Frozen grain is a huge problem on these discs
These Disney blurays look better than 4k77 and 4k83
@Mark Sabian while I understand you're argument and agree. That's not what I meant.
Scene vs scene the new ones look so much better, but of course the SE edits suck.
I'm actually tempted to Remux my UHD BluRay into an MKV and edit it back to the original cut
Nice. I did notice they cleaned up the ATATs animation if not made them look less cheesy as well as the speeder scenes. Especially the behind the pilot's shoulders. Also the very first initial shot of the walkers when before the Cmdr with Binos id's them. I dunno I felt like they stretched the widescreen a bit more because im seeing more things than I've ever seen of every edition lol.
Are the HDR grades on the discs the same SDR to HDR grades on the Disney+ versions?
The Phantom Menace has been watched twice. No playback issues on first viewing, but the second viewing it wanted to freeze on Chapter 3: Short Negotiations, then skip to Chapter 4: Queen Amidala.
The Empire Strikes Back has been watched twice. No playback issues on first viewing, but the second viewing it wanted to freeze on Chapter 47: Falcon to the Rescue, then skip to Chapter 48: The Empire Closes In.
Rogue One also played fine upon first viewing, but on second viewing it wanted to freeze on Chapter 26: Attack on Eadu, then skip to Chapter 27: Eadu Aftermath.
Now I'm very meticulous about my movies so I can assure you I did not scratch the disc. It might be a factory defect or possibly my Ultra HD Player.
Anyone else have problems?
Hey, I’m not entirely sure I understand the recommendation. I’m clear that if you have an Atmos setup then the audio from the discs are well worth the purchase. But I heard nothing in the review of the picture to suggest that it was worth the upgrade alone? In the end you say that the picture and audio are better than the stream. Is there a reason you didn’t highlight specifically what was better about the picture Over the Disney plus? Thank you
Clearer detail over the streaming versions. "You can now count Han's chest hairs" - this is an actual quote from the video... :D
Physical discs allways. 😊👍
I decided to pass on the complete Skywalker set as I had already purchased Ep 8 on 4KBD and just purchased Ep 9 separate. I might get Ep 7 on 4K eventually or just keep the Blu-Ray. I probably will purchase Eps 4-6 on 4K BD more for the Atmos as mentioned. I still say that since Eps 1-3 are forever 1080P I’ll probably just keep the Blu-Ray for those
If the HDR is the same as the Disney plus that’s no bueno. Many videos were done that showed the HDR in those movies was poorly done. With nits never even reaching expected HDR levels.
I would give the video for A New Hope at least an 8.9, probably 9.0. In general, this trilogy looks really great on my setup. I think Shane's video scoring is way low vs. what I'm seeing. By far the best presentation on a consumer format.
Due to the special editions... Just stick with the 4k77, 4k80, and 4k83 fan releases of the 35mm of the Star wars trilogy. Prequels are fine on Disney plus or Blu-ray though due to them being 2k or 1080p upscaled.
Where can i buy those fan 4k versions???
Jim Cameron eBay
@Amir Mustafaa Ok then download from which side?
Jim Cameron join the Star Wars trilogy forums they will teach u how to download them
@@goodsuc81 Super many thanks and stay healthy/at home
Hey Shane, Great & Entertaining Reviews!
rogue one star wars story is the best 4k blue ray than all the other star wars transfers
Glad to hear, love that movie.
Honestly to me, Disney won't impress me until they release a 4k original unaltered edition.
Same for me, hell I don´t even ask an 4k uhd, just a decent restoration of the theatrical versions and I´m happy.
You can get the unaltered versions om Star Wars online both in 1080p and 2160p! And to be completely honest they look awesome! I strongly recommend you watching them! :)
@@LeonardoRamosGaete where can we get those versions?
@@LeonardoRamosGaete Are those in definitive versions already or are they still improving them? Sucks so many, many versions floating around.
Donaldo Martinez unfortunately I can’t not really provide a link because there are rules but I promise you a little bit of search on google and you will find it! I promise it isn’t hard to find :)
4K Blu Rays are the only way to go!
"Disney-" ( what I call them) don't add Dolby Vision to the Star Wars Discs and only give 66 GB's per Disc, but they still look BETTER than the Streaming service!
Shame on Disney- for not adding the extra GB's plus DV on all the Star Wars 4k Blu Rays!
Let's be honest. The 4k's we got look great and had they added DV or extra GB's any improvements would be virtually unnoticeable.
Question, how is colour compared to the Blu-Ray versions?
I just got the Project 4K77 and 4K83 no-DNR and will be watching those for the first time on May the 4th
They Have a more natural colours compared to the 2004/2011 Blu-rays transfers. But not perfect.
@@TheMillpat it doesnt compare huge difference the depth/colors alone amazing!
Physical for me, disney+ arent released in Norway anyways
anfinn berland same here in Sweden.
Does anybody experience the loss of the hyperdrive failure sound effect and the high end screech of the asteroid collision in Ep V ?
I truly love the surround sound on all the Star Wars movies, I have floor speakers so the sound is totally out of this World 🔊🔊🔊
Nice shirt bought entire series this last week at last Star Wars is on 4K a dream for us who love 4K Physical media. Great video.
saw the original trilogy on Disney plus and a new hope and loved and picked up the discs in 2020 and last year editions
Could you elaborate on Disney plus dd+ atmos mix compared to uhd atmos mix. How much more immersive overhead effects etc was uhd vs disney?
The UHD is by Disney, it's the same mix, except lossy Atmos on Disney+ vs lossless Atmos on the UHD. Dolby Vision image on streaming vs HDR10 on UHD, but the former will be around 16mbps bitrate, whereas to the latter is more like 60-70mbps bitrates.
Hello
Can you do 4k movie review for all of the harry potter i have only seen Deathly Hallows part two It was brilliant.
Thank you
Why doesn’t Disney just release the unaltered versions? I mean they could really use the dough
@Geralt of Trivia What means that?
Disney does not own the distribution rights to episodes 4,5,6 Fox still owns that for now, fox owns the distribution rights to episode 4 for all time that was the deal lucas made with with fox when he wanted to make the film and fox loses the distribution rights to episodes 5,6 this year sometime but i'm shure disney will try to make a deal with fox for all 3 and part of the deal disney made with lucas is that they are to never release the theatrical versions ever
@@daemonduskfall So we're basically screwed out of an official 4K GOUT?
@@JopieHaargel Yep most likely but if you haven't seen Harmy's despecalized editions of the original trilogy they are a nice hd version of the original films
@@daemonduskfall Yeah, I have those in 720p already. Holding out for the 1080p or 4K versions of those will be the way to go then.
Does new hope have the McKlunky line for greedo? As that will influence my decision in getting the 4K versions of these movies also any other changes worth mentioning in the scenes as well as dialogue as well
I'm perfectly fine with fan restorations. I hope fans take some footage from this transfer to restore the Orginal version in 4k.
The original version of Star Wars (1977) and Return of the Jedi are available online. Search for 4k77 and 4k83. Fans have restored old 35mm prints in 4k. They're available with DNR and without DNR. They look fantastic, but are pretty huge in terms of file size at about 80gb. These are the actual original versions of the film, unlike the Harmy Despecialized Editions, which are a mishmash between different releases to best restore the films to how they originally were. Unfortunately, The Empire Strikes Back 35mm print restoration is still being worked on because that print was in the worst quality.
Here are some links for more info.
www.thestarwarstrilogy.com/project-4k77/
www.thestarwarstrilogy.com/project-4k80/
www.thestarwarstrilogy.com/project-4k83/
Frozen grain is a huge problem on these discs
@@HiltonGoodeDU looks like 4k 80 is making good progress. I reckon late 2021. As long as people donate itll help the progress. Some of his reels are really damaged. Hopefully he'll buy a reel thatll ease some of the work load.
It has the 20th Century-Fox logo and fanfare.
Yes it does.
@@therealshanelee Because 20th Century-Fox and Lucasfilm Ltd. are both part of Disney.
Great review Shane the Star Wars Original Trilogy on 4K UHD Blu-ray Disc look and sounds amazing they never have looked and sounded better with HDR10 and Dolby Atmos Sound
I'll more than likely pick these up even though i have the 2011 Saga box set and original trilogy in separate steel book case releases. Great review guy!
Thank you for doing this comparison. I was curious to see the comparisons between these and the Disney Plus versions. Can you do The Force Awakens 4k as well?
Guess not .he is really busy lol
Yo, Shane! Your reviews are pretty cool.
Hey, I just have some doubts about 3D Blu-Ray compatibility stuff. I do have a 3D and 4K Blu-Ray compatible player and a 4K TV, but is a 3D TV required to play 3D Blu-Rays? Or is there a way to watch them without a 3D TV? I’ll wait for your response. Thanks!
I think a lot of 4K TVs are also 3D compatible - you'd have to check the manual or online to see if yours supports 3D. You'd need 3D glasses too of course.
How do the lightsabers look on the 4K discs? Earlier this year, I purchased the Disney regular Blu-ray copy of The Empire Strikes Back, and it was no different than the pre-Disney Blu-rays from 2011. Vader's lightsaber still looked pink, instead of red.
My question is, how do these compare to Harmy's Despecialized Editions?
This is the most important question.
Would love your input on the quality of mandalorian. Very sad it’s not coming to UHD
Update: seasons 1 and 2 are being released on 4K Blu-ray this holiday season. Happy Life Day!
@@DogmaFight ah that’s great news happy to hear it!
This is an excellent review! Ep 4 and Rogue for me. That'll be fine thanks
Frozen grain is a huge problem on these discs
I love Rogue One as much as the original trilogy, great prequel to Ep 4. Those four movies are the only ones I care about/will watch in future.
Would be cool to see/hear you and Brass Tax discuss you feelings about these transfers, not another review, but just a discussion. I think that would be tasssssssttayyy!
My Disney Plus going through my 4K Fire Stick and lost the Atmos, I contacted the Fire Stick Chat and they said they are working on the issue, as I had Atmos before.
I actually don't watch the three original Star Wars movies on Disney+, I just watch them on DVD made by 20th Century Fox.
Watched it. The sound is bit soft. The intro alone is like on the star wars 7, 8 and 9. The dynamic range is somewhat compressed. Thankfully i have the 1080p of the complete saga which has the thx certified full dynamic range score.
But the picture quality is stunning. Looks like it was from yesterday.
have they got rid of the colour problems on the blu rays? ie having too much of a red tint (see the pink hangar lights around the x wing in new hope)
Great shirt. OT OG. Did you notice any of issues where the voices didn't quite match up?
I did not.
So what do you prefer, hdr or dolby vision? Which looks better?
Frozen grain is a huge problem on these discs
@@vebjorngrytten7629 so dolby vision handles the grain better?
@@Seripmaci dont know
Seripmac Dolby Vision is almost always going to look at least a little better than HDR 10 and in some cases, more than slightly better. Seeing as how the Dolby Vision is on streaming and the HDR10 is on disc, we don’t know how they compare with these movies because of possible streaming compression and such, since Shane didn’t cover that. I’m not sure if that would make a difference or not.
Bit of a late reply, but hopefully I can clear things up. There was an analysis done on the Disney+ and the Blu ray version which confirms that while the footage SAYS that it's HDR10+ and/or Dolby Vision, the reality is that the footage is still just an SDR transfer wrapped in an HDR container.
Therefore, the Blu Ray will 100% look better due to the higher bit rate on the discs. The Disney+ version has no additional information.
The only advantage that the Disney+ version MAY have is that Dolby Vision has dynamic HDR, which means that the brightness levels can change on a scene by scene basis rather than be static. Unfortunately, I'm not sure if the Disney+ version actually does this, as I'm not aware that anyone's checked.
Also, apparently due to the DNR, the 2011 Blu rays actually have more detail in some scenes. Hope this helps!
(Also, If you're into that sort of thing, the 4K77, 4K83 and soon to be 4K80 fan transfers are very detailed, as long as you don't mind a bit of grain).
Is the physical versions of these films any different then the Disney + versions? Or are they better then the Blu-ray physical editions? - I was thinking about getting the 9 movie Skywalker set from Best Buy. But I own the previous Blu-ray saga that had 6 films.
I think Disney + is good enough unless you just want to collect them on disc but that's just my opinion
I will always go Physical. So yeah, I am picking up all the Beatles White Albums agine ...Wait... All the Star Wars movies for a 3rd time :)
So typically do you prefer Disc (but it only has HDR10) or Digital (but it has Dolby Vision)?
Thanks. I'm trying to justify whether I should by the Skywalker Collection. I own every steelbook in the saga, apart from episode 9. The only titles that I own the 4k are Solo and The Last Jedi. I own an 65 inch LG OLED and a 5.1 Yamaha HT, so I can take advantage of Dolby Vision but not Dolby Atmos. I prefer my Blu rays to the compressed uhd versions on Disney+. It's a letdown that they aren't visually stunning but in the end I'll get them anyway. This is the best version we'll get. Are you going to do a review of 4k blu Ray for The Force Awakens?
My TV is HadR10 and not Dolby Vision. Maybe that might be why it doesn't look right on my TV on Disney+. I don't have the film's on 4K Blu Ray but on Disney+ the image on everything HDR looks dark and a bit washed out on my TV. I bought my TV on Black Friday a year and a half ago for half price @ €400
Waiting for my Skywalker collection. I did watch them on Disney plus but I did hear quality on physical disc is much better hoping to start watching them tomorrow
Lazarrez Velazquez ti seems that disney+ did not have any hdr enhancements in episodes 4 to 6... and that is bad... some videstremer did compare blu ray and disney+ and find out that hdr was only Name in these films, not execution.
Shout out to the Despecialized Editions
I still have my trilogy laserdisc box set that has the original versions of these movies. Except for the opening crawl change to Star Wars as Episode IV: A New Hope, they're the original edits that you saw in theaters when they were new.
Do you happen to know if the HDR works now on Disney Plus on the Sony X900 - F? Only bringing this up since you mentioned Disney and I figured you'd know haha
QUESTION: can u stream rent and buy movies from apple tv app on PC in 4K HDR dolby atmos dolby vision? Without owning the apple tv device of course? Or is all those features available only with apple products?
If my Sony UHD player supports Atmos 2.1 the 7.1 track won't play, right?
its good enough safe yourself the money. Half of the star wars films made by disney without george lucas are crap anyways.
Why would they even consider using noise reduction?!
Because some people love to bitch about grain.
When do you think we will see 4K Lord of the Rings and Hobbit trilogy blu-rays?
How much of the original trilogy was changed this time?
Thank you for this review. The only reason I would upgrade would be for Atmos, and it sounds like their in the future for me...this will be the Sixth time buying this (Hopefully the last).
I'm assuming these don't have the original cuts in them? It didn't look like it
Really disappointed that the original but cleaned up cuts of ep4-6. are not included, with different branching and chapters it could have easily been done even with the new atmos soundtrack without to much editing as I really hate the cuts over time and mixing with the story
Please.. Please please Parmount let's have Star Trek Moves transfered into 4K next!!!
Miss when they made these THX Certified. No more since Disney bought starwars
For $7/ month (free trial for me) it's worth getting just to watch these movies. I only signed up for the free trial to watch all of them. Yea, I'm cheap 😅 I'll wait for price drop.
how does it compare to the 4k77 project ?
Would you recommend watching the 4k disney + or the 1080 bluray I own?
4K. Definitely
They wanted to bring balance to the entire skywalker saga🤩😏
Hi. I just recently bought 4k blu ray player with 4k "waterworld" and I noticed that the picture is darker and colorless than related blu ray.
I noticed it also on you tube movies 4k vs. blu ray comparison. (" ua-cam.com/video/NbTWvicoA7U/v-deo.html ")
Do you know what am I doing wrong in my settings on tv or 4k blu ray player?
Or it supposed to be like this like "v-log" on 4k cameras (gh5/s5)?
So should I just be happy with my blu rey and dvd collection
I am curious to know how different A/V reviewers can come up with such drastically different conclusions, such as the previously mentioned Blu-ray.com review of Episode 5 today.
Haven't read that review. Maybe he's using a Hisense.
The shortest one is over two hours long? I thought Laserdiscs only held 2 hours, and only ROTJ had two discs... Were ep 4 and 5 edited!?
There were different LaserDisc releases where Star Wars and Empire came on more than one disc. The releases you’re probably referring to were sped up slightly to decrease the run time.
schorman13 Wow! I grew up with low def, non-letterboxed, accelerated copies...and they were amazing. Thanks for the weird info!
I just wanna know where it’s better? Disney+ or iTunes?
D+
These movies defently look the best out of all 9 for that 4k, besides rouge one which is true 4k.
thank god i didnt pay full price on the skywalker collection on 4k blue ray i paid for mine 149 ,00
Disney plus please give us the original trilogy in its unchanged theatrical version
If you own the bluray, don't bother.
Are the Disney plus version not in Dolby atmos
They are. Just more compressed.
Yeah but....... Is disney + good enough? How do they compare? That would have been nice to know.........
I don't have a 4k bluray player so I'd pass for now. The Disney Plus Version is perfectly fine and I'm pretty sure it's even better than the 2011 bluray versions. Not sure I'd really be that wowed anymore by the 4k discs. Sure side by side they will likely be marginally better buts that not worth me going out and spending over £100 on a 4k disc player that I'd use very occasionally.
There is a massive difference I’ve compared the 2
I maybe watched a random movie or 2 on Disney+ a few Xmen animated episodes and the Simpsons and all of the Mandalorian. I Maybe watched 10 or 20 mins of the Star Wars films on Disney+ just trying them out. Saying oh yeah I'm going to watch these. But I never did? So much at my fingertips. It stopped me watching.
I had Disney+ since it launched.
So I canceled my subscription and bought all the Star wars 4ks except Last Jedi awful film and solo. because it's boring.
I've already watch the 1st 3 Star Wars films 4k blurays. Dolby Atmos is fantastic!
Yeah it's weird, there is so much to choose from on Netflix but I hardly ever watch that. Prefer to buy the stuff I really want on disc.
Don't see enough people mentioning this, so I guess I'll be that guy: your review for all three films is incredibly confusing because you are using footage from the old 2011 blu ray master yet you clearly make it seem like the focus is on the 2020 disney set. In fact, it sounds like you're reviewing the old one because your comments about black levels, contrast and blurriness are contradictory when you look at the new one.
You are correct about one thing. You're clearly confused about what your watching. The clips are used so you can go back and reference those scenes on your own disc. There isnt a single clip on UA-cam that will show the full quality of anything on physical media. The clips here are just a visual aid. I know you get this but you want to be smart.
It’s such a crime that the best LOOKING 4K Star Wars movie is also really the only one I have no desire to watch. Lol.
Bro left the tag on the shirt. Took it back for a refund after this bideo.
Does the emperor have the slug? Always bothered me
No
@@therealshanelee Oh, that's good to know. Thank you!
Disney starting to become like what EA is to gaming if they are not careful
I wish they would release the original originals,without the early cgi,Yeah Han shot first!
what the actual fuck is with disney deciding to dnr every catalog title to shit
Why do they keep screwing us over on the Dolby Vision on UHD discs? They give us Dolby Atmos but not Dolby Vision, it seems so silly especially when Dolby Vision can actually help with most sets not being anywhere near a thousand nits.