@@ebensennett3095for me vilain ate just more human than heroes. Being able to hold yourself everytime is not really do able and i know all of us at least one time take a really bad decision and cuz of fear or some shit like that decide to stick to that madness idea. They are just more relatable
@@ArnoldBayema So basically you find villains more relatable because they screw up and don't try to fix it when they do? What kind of attitude is that to take toward life? And please don't reply "realistic," because you'd be surprised how often doing the right thing and doing the "realistic" thing coincide -- it's what's called "enlightened self-interest," which by your own argument villains don't subscribe to.
@@johannesneumayer6041 Har har. Maybe it'd be more appropriate for me to mention this guy I ran into (so to speak) here on UA-cam. He insists that the Rape of Nanking and the Bataan Death March are fake news. Way he talked, he was just one of many people who think it's okay to deny history they don't like because it puts their side in a bad light, like the Rape, the March, and for all I know the Holocaust. Dunno if they were the victors in WW2, but they certainly have their own idea of right and wrong.
You know Tai Lung is the most right here being that he wanted to be the Dragon Warrior only because Shifu planted the dream in his head from the beginning,he was the one who motivated, encourage and trained to go beyond his limits and be the best but once the dream and goal he had for his whole life was denied to him and his father Shifu the number one person he wanted to make proud of did nothing to stop it,he didn't know how to handle the reality and inevitably descended to darkness
@@QuotePediaYT BULLSHIT. He betrayed himself -- because he always believed it was ALL ABOUT HIM. You don't get respected and noticed for your abilities because you want to be. Respect and notice must be earned, fair and square. Remember this line? "Dormammu -- I've come to bargain!" Doc Strange locked himself and the extradimensional entity Dormammu in a stable time loop that always led back to that moment when he demanded Dormammu's attention. Dormammu could pound on Strange all he wanted, and did, and it wouldn't break the loop -- not least because Dormammu, a being from outside time and space, had no idea what time was. So after a few zillion times through the loop, Dormammu gave up out of sheer irritation and caved to Strange's demand to leave Earth alone. Now ask yourself: Would Tai Lung have been willing to do what Doc Strange did? I rather doubt it. It's all about him, remember? All about his getting the respect and notice and ADORATION he craved. But if there's no glory waiting for him -- remember, nobody but Doc Strange and his wizardly associates know what he did! -- then why would Tai Lung even care?
Tai Lung is strong in martial arts but his heart is weak Oogway saw it but Shifu didn't and neither did Tai Lung Tai is nothing more than any power hungry athlete wanting recognition for his talents, not knowing that martial arts requires a calm mind, a peaceful heart and a humble self.
@@yahwedalumiracleonwuneme The most human? The most plausible? Why? Because they reacted in the screwed-up way you've come to expect of most people? I've ranted in detail about Stanislav Petrov elsewhere in this thread, so let me try to keep this short. On September 26, 1983, the Soviet missile defense system appeared to detect five ICBM launches from the United States. Protocol demanded that then Lt. Col. Petrov, the duty officer in charge of the Soviet command bunker, immediately launch missiles in retaliation. But Petrov, thinking the matter over, decided the whole thing was a false alarm owing to the paltry number of missiles "launched." And he was right -- the system had managed to misidentify sunbeams as missiles. So. Are you going to tell me Lt. Col. Petrov's reaction was inhuman and implausible?
@@seanbigay1042 human amd plausible here means that it's most likely what we would go for if we have the opportunity they did. Take any movie villain for example, and compare it with an average human.
@@yahwedalumiracleonwunemeOn May 26, 2018, then 22-year-old Malian migrant Mamoudou Gossama scrambled four stories up the face of a block of flats on 51 rue Marx-Dormoy in Paris' 18th arrondissement in thirty seconds to save a four-year-old boy dangling from a balcony, a feat for which he was lauded as "the Spider-Man of Paris." So please don't tell me an average human can't be a hero. Or do I have to bring up the Tank Man of Tiananmen Square?
@@aahahshhshahahaj2364google yielded me: Don't Feel Pain By: Connor Quest & Joe Barnes Not sure or there's more songs containing this line though, nor or OP referenced this one. It is however a title I can offer the curious reader
When you make a story, there's often one piece of advice that stands out: Every villain is the hero of their own story. And these kind of video shows it.
Except they all understand that they’re going about it the wrong way. Take Thanos, someone a lot of people like to point to as a heroic villain. He was clearly in the wrong, he could’ve wished for infinite resources but instead chose mass murder. He even shows regret that he even wants to do so. They all consider themselves tragic villains.
@@MontycelA yes, of course. But it doesn't change the fact that if you build your villain this way, they will be more endearing, and more understandable.
@@MontycelA I've never heard anyone think that way about Thanos, they all say his plan was moronic and that's because his real reason was butchered, he just wanted to woo Death, it's really that simple.
@@Anon-NG Yeah, I agree with that. Even though he knows he contradicts himself in how he views the world, he continues down that path for a future only he envisions. I think that’s why he said, '...The selfish desire to maintain peace causes war, and hatred is born to protect love.'
I think a lot of people are missing the catalyst of Tai Lung’s downfall. He was abandoned by his own parents and adopted by a Martial Arts Master who, instead of teaching him discipline and self control, hyped him up for greatness when Lung showed a natural talent for Kung Fu. He trained him to be the Dragon Warrior, was more than likely told over and over again that he would become the Dragon Warrior who is arguably the greatest warrior in the KFP universe. When you’re being built towards a goal your entire life without being taught hardly any humility and self control only to be cast down in the blink of an eye can seriously mess someone up psychologically. That’s like training your entire life, literally, for the Olympics only to be told you’re not good enough. Shifu should have, above all else, taught Lung discipline, respect, and humility. He shouldn’t have filled his head with dreams that he could not foresee coming true. With that said, Lung was old enough to know right from wrong. If he disagreed with the decision, he should have left the temple and wondered on his own. Maybe then he could’ve found enlightenment and realized why he wasn’t chosen.
0 OOGWAY A TROLL & SHiFU A BiTCH. THAT'Z WHAT iT iS. & SHiFU BiTCHED UP WHEN iT MATTERED MOZT ! NO WONDER TAi LUNG WAZ MAD 1 [MAYBE THEN HE COULD'VE FOUND ENLiGHTENMENT AND REALiSED WHY HE WASN'T CHOSEN] DRAGON SCROLL WAZ A REFLECTiON JACKASS. EVEN PO, THE 1 OOGWAY DiD APPOiNT, DiDN'T GET iT 2 HiZ TREACHEROUZ GOOFY AZZ DAD WAZ THE 1 THAT REVEALED iT TO HiM. BY ACCiDENT NO FUCKiNG LEZZ ! BUT PO HAD TO PiECE iT TOGETHER. AiN'T NO ENLiGHTENMENT TO B FOUND ON WHY HE WAZN'T CHOSEN, OTHER THAN SOMEONE NOT TELLiNG HiM THE TRUTH SOONER, OOGWAY!! [NOT YELLiNG, SURPRiSiNGLY ENOUGH, JUZT LiKE TYPiNG iN CAP]
i really love the type of villain that isn't actually evil at heart, they're just people with different perspective of the world and is given power to do their will
What makes tai lung's case so tragic is that he was never his own man, never had any dreams of his own, it was all planted to him by shifu (doesn't matter if shifu intended for this to happen or not, he succeeded in teaching him kung fu, but failed in parenting). The worst pain for him was not getting rejected, but the fact that not even shifu (his father figure) tried to help him recover from this psychologically heartbreaking truth, that it was never his destiny to become the dragon warrior tbw. Being ignored by one person is one thing, but being ignored by your parents (biological, foster, doesn't matter) is the nail on the coffin. I'm not defending his actions when he heard the truth, but I also can't ignore the fact that he was definitely never taught the important life lessons like humility, self control and the ability to forgive, because training and breathing was all he knew to do If he ever gets redeemed (he deserves it), I'll be there to witness it
its these kind of quotes that really put a perspective on things and what makes some villains iconic and some of the quotes are just so right they may as well be put in stone
I don't entirely remember this one but Nox's quote from the show Wakfu. Nox was basically destroying the world to be able to go back in time to save his family and stop himself from destroying the world with his machine. He yelled at the heroes for trying to stop him and they knew what he was doing, with the pain in his voice he yelled that nothing mattered, what he was doing now would never had happened if he stopped himself from doing this. If he went back in time, saved his family and stopped himself he would have never made the machine that was destroying the world and no one would know who he was because he would never become the villain they knew him as. The guy made complete sense and he wasn't tricking them either, if he did go back in time and do this then the world wouldn't be in danger but in typical hero fashion, the MC said that the fact he is still killing people and stole a priceless and powerful artifact is enough reason to stop him. My man Nox was completely right in what he was doing and would have reversed the damage he had done but because he was killing people and using a priceless artifact he had to be stopped, by the MC's logic anyway and it was just stupid.
Doesn't he end up only being able to go back a short time though, it kinda makes all he did wrong worse and would have made th Mc complicit if he'd stood aside and let it fail.
Are you talking about the arc in which Nox went around murdering people for the "wakfu" in order to collect enough to go back in time? And then he pushed through with his plan, and found all the wakfu he'd collected sufficed only to send him a few minutes back in time rather than the many years he was hoping for? But even if he'd succeeded, he'd still be in the wrong. IMHO his reasoning boils down to, "We had to destroy the village in order to save it." Which is bupkis.
What -- the villain's perspective is accurate because it's cruel? Because no individual's life matters, and we should each be out for ourselves alone? Tell that to Stanislav Petrov. On September 26, 1983, the Soviet Union's nuclear early warning system appeared to report the launch of an ICBM from the United States, with four more immediately following. But then Lt. Col. Petrov, on duty at the Serpakov-15 bunker near Moscow housing the system's command center, felt sure it was a false alarm. He was sure enough that he did not launch a counterstrike -- and in fact, he was right. That day, Petrov proved himself, in NASA parlance, a "steely-eyed missileman." His calm resolve prevented World War III. And it's because of him that we're even around to debate the pros and cons of villains' beliefs on the Internet. So don't ever tell me nobody's life matters. Or that each of us should only look out for ourselves.
@@seanbigay1042i think you misunderstand what he said... its not accurate cause its cruel its cruel cause its accurate, no one said to be selfish people are just inherently selfish out of survival
@@gohan2791 "Villains have the most cruel reality perspective in life which is accurate." What's to misunderstand about that? He says villains' perspective in life is accurate because it's cruel. For that matter, you just said people are inherently selfish out of survival. Is that so? On May 26, 2018, then 22-year-old Malian migrant Mamoudou Gassama scrambled four stories up the face of a block of flats on 51 rue Marx-Dormay in Paris' 18th arrondissement, in thirty seconds, to save a four-year-old boy dangling from a balcony. For this feat he was hailed far and wide as the Spider-Man of Paris. Why did he do it? Not for the reward, though he was subsequently made a French citizen and took up a ten-month contract as a firefighter. As he explained to President Emmanuel Macron, he couldn't NOT do it -- he saw the boy and leapt to the rescue without further thought for himself or anything else but the boy's danger. Now, not everyone can rise to the occasion as Gassama did. There was a whole crowd milling at the foot of that block of flats, but only Gassama made a move. But don't you think that sometime, somewhere, someone will face an emergency and be moved by the story of the Spider-Man of Paris to do the right thing? Maybe we all start out selfish for the sake of survival. But we don't have to stay that way. We're better than we think we are. And it's heroes who teach us this. Not villains.
@@gohan2791 The biggest thing that makes a villain a villain isn't their ideals, but the way they act on those ideals. It is fine to recognize the corruption of the world...but to hurt people, often who aren't even the intended targets, is really the wrong way to solve the problem. Usually villains aren't even trying to solve the problem they are pointing out...they are just lashing out which just makes them part of the problem.
Neither are losers always right. There was this guy styling himself N. Smith who told me, here on UA-cam, that neither the Rape of Nanking nor the Bataan Death March happened -- that all that stuff was fake news spread by the Allies. Now, the Rape of Nanking did happen. So did the Death March. And so, for that matter, did the Holocaust -- something else I'm sure N. Smith denies happened. Note that it isn't a winner saying all this stuff.
@@rajibbiswas1752 Sorry for the outburst, but I stand by what I wrote. Did you read what I wrote elsewhere in this thread about Stanislav Petrov? No? Then here goes: On September 26, 1983, the Soviet Union's missile defense system appeared to register an ICBM launch from the United States, followed by four more. Had the duty officer at the Soviet system's command bunker followed orders without pausing to think, he would've launched missiles in "retaliation" (note the quotes), the Americans would have retaliated in return, World War III would have happened, and we wouldn't be here to argue the pros and cons of heroism or anything else, being too dead to argue. But then-Lt. Col. Petrov was the duty officer at the time. He reasoned that the Amis wouldn't launch a mere five missiles when they had five THOUSAND ready to go, and that the apparent detection was a glitch. So, he didn't respond. And guess what? He turned out to be right. The system had somehow misread sunbeams as missile launches. Lt. Col. Petrov had been what NASA calls a "steely-eyed missileman" -- he remained calm and rational under conditions that virtually mandated his freaking out. And because he did, he prevented World War III from happening. He saved us all. Now going back to your statement, if by "antiheroes" you meant "people with hang-ups like ordinary mortals," then I can't argue with you there. People who feel fear under stress are more relatable than people who feel nothing. Even Superman feels fear, praying, "Oh God, don't let me screw up." (Certainly the Superman of the new Adult Swim toon does.) But courage isn't the lack of fear. It's all in how you use that fear, and not let it use you. If Lt. Col. Petrov had given way to his fears, the world would have ended. But he didn't. If you're going to argue that someone who didn't react as Lt. Col. Petrov did would have made for a more interesting character ... then, IMHO, I'm afraid you have some major issues to contend with.
What you will call Oppenheimer huh?he was a villain or not?.somehow relatiable.Nowadays youths are watching basically bts etc stuff.i am not complaining about it.its okay in some point.they even dont know histroy.bullshit social media stuff.they think they are smart so much.Even vincent vin Gogh suffered so much.this society ignorance is bliss.
I think, it's not always what they believe in, it's the way they go about it that makes them the villain. Madara for example wanted peace and an end to things like war and suffering, but the way he went about it turned him into the villain. That's just my hot take on things, ik it's not always that way but for these characters I feel like it somewhat fits.
yup I hated it when people would say the devil made him/her do it when something evil would happen like seriously you really believe a red guy with horns from storie books did this no the real devil's of this would is (but not all) is society
Sindro or Syndrome? As in the little bastard who was so fixated on become Mr. Incredible's sidekick that he got in Mr. Incredible's way, thereby endangering all the people Mr. Incredible was trying to help? And when Mr. Incredible rejected him for this, he grew up to be an embittered whack-job prepared to slaughter superheroes wholesale in order to train the super-robot he'd built to fake feats of super-heroism and get the glory that was all he ever wanted? None of this is even remotely admirable.
When I saw KFP3 delving into the spirit realm and ringing back dead warriors, I really wanted to see a redemption arc for Tai Lung. Maybe with Oogway being his master in the afterlife, helping him find peace. That would've made it go full circle for Shifu.
@@jamestolbert1856 Precisely -- and it's one thing the villains in this piece all share: They are incapable of saying the simple words, "It's my fault."
Good and Evil do exist, and I'm not saying that because I'm religious. No matter which way you put it, there's constructive and destructive. There's Right and Wrong. There's violence, and force. Violence is merely force without good reasons. To deny evil exists is to commit evil. By not recognizing wrong, you will never do anything right.
Tai Lung's downfall was not entirely his fault. It also lies in Shifu. He trained Tai Lung, probably encourages him or telling him that he was MEANT to be the Dragon Warrior. But the moment Oogway rejected him. What did Shifu do? Nothing. Tai Lung saw his father abandoned him, casted him aside, doing nothing for the only thing that Shifu trained him to and told him he could be.
That's pretty much true, like even his name means "great dragon" which I'm sure Shifu wanted Tai Lung to be the dragon warrior. It's pretty sad how shifu did abandon him when all shifu could've did that day was consult with his adopted son, that even if he didn't get the name "dragon warrior" he's still proud of him. Atleast something like that, which shifu could do still since Tai Lung is returning in Kung Fu Panda 4
He was patient all his life. It was literally denied of him right in his face. That patience he had since a literal child was all for nothing, that's why he went rampant. All that training, suffering, just for another man's dream.
"There are many types of monsters in this world, monsters who will not show themselves, and who cause trouble, monsters who abduct children, monsters who devour dreams, monsters who suck blood and monsters who always tell lies" L, Death Note
They didn't choose to be a villain Life forced them to be it And we just making it worst than ever People want the hero But the hero need a villain So is the earth need water So is the fire need air Either you are hero or villain You are the same 'Cause we are human And we know "pain"
Maybe yes or... maybe no Villain is just a word for those who want to live in a better word of their imagination. They might seen more pain than heroes but sometime heroes know more about pain than them
That’s a lie, there’s always a choice. Madara, thanos, and syndrome never even had to hurt anyone. The joker kinda did given that subway scene where he would’ve been killed, but other than that he just likes killing people. Tai lung was misguided but that isn’t an excuse to start trying to get an irl kill streak. All of these villains are so petty, that’s why they’re villains. They disguise lies under truth to cover up the reality they’ve molded for themselves. I hate when people say things like “society made them do it” nobody makes you do anything, in the end it’s your finger behind the trigger, and your choice to pull it. It’s not that hard to understand.
@@QuotePediaYT Batman, Starlord, Wolverine, Damian Wayne, a lot of robins, spider man, Deadpool, Luke Skywalker, and Guts would like to disagree. Not to mention all the ones I either forgot or don’t know of
Right ideals, but misguided, something almost everyone suffers from which is what makes these villains so great. I especially love Tai Lung vs Shifu, if you look at it objectively. Yeah its not Shifus fault tai lung didnt get the scroll, it was completely up to Oogway and he didnt see him as worthy. As a kid, when I saw this I understood that and I wondered why Tai lung didnt vent his anger out on Oogway rather than Shifu. As a young man, viewing this from Tai Lungs perspective is frustrating, and heart breaking. Hearing Tai Lungs rant of frustration, you can almost hear the confusion and misguidedness within the snow leapards soul. He talks about wanting the scroll, but his complaints eminate from his grueling training and rough upbringing as a kung fu warrior. When he flashes back to when he was denied the scroll he doesnt focus on the fact he was denied by Oogway, he emphasizes on the fact Shifu did NOTHING. Tai Lung will always have a place as one of my favorite villians because he was able to convey so much in the little amount of time we got of him. I truly hopes he appears in KFP 4 and manages to find the inner peace he so desperately wants, rather than chasing the affection and validation of his father, he learns to give himself that validation and truly move forward.
There is a concept of reality and then there is a choice. You aither change the perspective how you see it or you allow yourself to see a different concept.
The incredibles one is very interesting. In the real scene Bob's attention is on holding bomb voyage when he tells buddy he works alone. Yet when syndrome recalls it Bob is denying him directly.
yeah, it just shows how pathetic humanity is. I use his quote to directly link with that from Dracula(2011 I think) - Sometimes humanity does not deserve a Hero to look up too, they deserve a MONSTER to fear. If you see a ''Hero'' and wish to see them fail, to watch their downfall, then you do not deserve that HERO, you deserve them to become the monster you have all feared. The Superman idea, given up trying to help humanity, as no matter what he does, he can't change anything and suffering always continues - so he simply now takes charge of THE PLANET, and humanity now is in a dictatorship planet wide under his control.
It's literally been disproven by the very movie though where the citizens helped Peter when he tried saving both MJ and the kids in the bridge. Not at all people mind you since Norman too is human and he wants to see Peter suffer by doing bad things against him. People who uses this quote and fail to realize its not absolute are living red flags themselves.
@@silenthero2795But that doesn't debunked goblins quote because that's what happen to Tom's Spiderman when mysterio made him look like villan despite being sacrificing himself and turning into dust for 5 years and then fighting for the whole universe people at the end starts hating him just because of one misunderstanding society will blinding believe in what they see and hear that's how most of human logic works people will only hear from one side and decide what is right and what is wrong
@@Manish_sahu1 In Mysterio's case, most people thought he was a superhero so to them, Spider-man just killed a fellow superhero after causing such destruction using Stark tech. The people don't hate Spider-man for being Spider-man but for his supposed actions. Aside from that, there will always be people going against Spiderman because that's who they are. It's crazy that in the MCU, Peter couldn't easily prove his innocence when he has the whole Avengers backing him up.
One quote that always stuck with me was one that Batman said,I know this mostly villains but this one just hits: “…Sometimes People deserve more. Sometimes people deserve to have their faith rewarded” . Each time I read it I’m like Oof!
There are just villains who you don't agree with, you want to die, but you can clearly see where they are coming from. And if you would be so different if you had lived their life.
Part of me wanted Tai lung to get the dragon scroll first time around seeing how it all played out... Oolong stopping him from getting to the blank scroll, protecting his, lesson, that he hoped someone would eventually figure out for themselves... of course, he couldn't be there when they did...
The third quote from Thanos the one about unable to see what can be, feels like most of the MCU fandom right now. Always looking back at Phase 1 to 4… not seeing what could be the future
The best quotes tend to come from the lease likely sources for example, my two favorite is "When there is evil in this world that Justice cannot defeat, Would You taint Your hands with evil to defeat evil? Or would you remain steadfast and righteous even if it means serending earn to evil?" And " If happiness has a form, What would it look like? It might be something like glass, Because one doesn't notice it normally. However, It is actually there. As proof, If you look at it from a different angle, The glass will reflect light. It will state it's purpose and existence more Elegantly then any other thing in this world."
This is why heroes who think they are wrong but understand that the villains have been right all along about the harsh reality. No matter what the humans do of their heinous acts, they still can't learn from their mistakes they made only to just repeat itself in a endless cycle.
“As a child, I was taught to build a ladder to greatness, to my dreams. It was only as an adult that I learned that I can’t hold both ends from the middle” - Unknown
I always tried to do the right thing, to make others happy. The world is full of things, happiness, loss, anger, frustration, sadness... And hope... Nobody cared back then. It seems they do now. I still try to do the right thing but this time only for myself. I'm not evil, I'm not a bad guy, I'm trying to do what I believe is right. I'm trying to make my life better, I'm trying to fullfil what I'm born for... And we happen to cross paths, standing in each others way. I will ask you twice to stand aside from my path. If you do we will go our separate ways, I hope that we don't see each other again. But if you stand in my way I will pass over you. I don't want to do it but if it becomes necessary I will crush you so I can go on my path. I don't want to bring suffering but I will if it's necessary. I don't want to justify why I'm doing this, the world never justified the things it did to me and it still doesn't. I don't want to explain why because I fear you may be so compelled that you want to join me and I don't want that to happen. You have a path, a better one. I hope if we ever happen to meet each other again it be in a better situation and that we both have found the peace that we're looking for
Most villains have a purpose. Someone did something to make them bad. Like Syndrome. He was just a kid and he was only misguided because he had a bomb on his cape thinking Mr.Incredible didn't want him to be better than him. But Mr.Incredible shouldn't push buddy away like that no matter how many times buddy kept trying to help. Tai Lung was good. He didn't have an evil heart. It was just his nature. That's also why Tigress wasn't chosen. Ugway knew a panda is both aggressive and calm. Then balance between good and evil. Ying and Yang. But most of the villains had something bad to them to make them a villain. Most of the villains are actually good but are on the wrong side. But that's when the hero steps in and stops their evil plans. That makes a fight between them. When the villain loses and the crowd cheers for the heroes the villain only feels more rage and anger.
I disagree, while some villains did become evil from circumstance Syndrome wasn't "made" bad. He worshiped Mr. Incredible and despite being able to use his genius for good chose to murder dozens of heros to one-up his former favorite even when he had Mr. Incredible at his mercy he didn't kill him instead he just gloated that he won and instead of stopping since his point was proven actively chose to attack innocent civilians to play pretend. I can see why Mr. Incredible pushed Buddy away, he didn't want a child getting hurt or killed on his watch and it's clear that it wasn't the first time Buddy interfered with his hero work. Him accidently letting Bomboyage get away to hurt/kill more people, cause a train wreck and it being his wedding night didn't help Buddy's impression of usefulness, though telling the kid "I work alone" shouldn't have torn him apart like that since it seems he was rejected quite frequently though if Mr. Incredible explained that Buddy had a bomb attached to him and gave him a chance to look forward to for 'training' when he was more mature it might have helped then again his parents should have warned him of the dangers of hero worship.
@@starkiller1289 That's true. I wasn't referring Buddy to be good or bad. I don't know how old Buddy is but he seems like he's almost a teen but a childs biggest role model is who they look up to. Maybe he doesn't have a father so he looked up to Mr.Incredible like one. Mr.Incredible pushed Buddy away a lot even though Buddy shouldn't have done it continuesly Mr.Incredible could have taken a different approach. You can see Buddy wants to be a sidekick and wanted to be a hero. Buddy is a smart kid to have made rocket boots but he is only smart when he is inventing or making things to make himself look like a hero but not smart enough to understand things going on around him. For all we know he could have been rejected by all the other supers and he thought Mr.Incredible was his best choice. Buddy was torn apart when Mr.Incredible told him he worked alone. So Buddy tried to fly off trying to prove he was worthy to Mr.Incredible. Buddy was probably desperate and wanted to try one more time but Mr.Incredible stopped him because of the bomb and Buddy thought Mr.Incredible was stopping him from becoming a hero. Buddy was framed as a bad guy because he was in a police car. Buddy desperately wanted to become a hero so he killed off the other heroes and tried to prove Mr.Incredible a point. Buddy desperately wanted to become famous and show how good he was. So he killed off the other heroes so he was more noticeable and became the one and only hero. But he doesn't care about heroes anymore and only wanted to become famous seeing heroes have powers and Buddy doesn't. Buddy desperately wants to become famous or a hero so he tries to kidnap Jack Jack at the end. He wanted a sidekick that he wanted to be. To be honest I don't think Buddy deserved to die in the plane propellers. He must have had so much hatred and tried to get what he wanted even though it wasn't the right thing. His mum not helping him and most likely ignoring him and having his idol tell him he doesn't need him in a bad tone. Buddy could have made up for everything at the end but people would still hate him. Buddy would have gone to prison either way and would have helped getting rid of supers in the future of he was still mad. Mr.Incredible probably doesn't know Buddy died in the propeller but he didn't care. If Buddy survived from it and saw Mr.Incredible still didn't care he would become very villainous. Buddy was a misguided child and because he was younger he chose a different path. I don't remember saying he was made bad or if it was a typo.
"In the symphony of life, childhood serenades the adoration of heroes, while the crescendo of adulthood unveils a nuanced understanding of villains-an evolution from the simplicity of admiration to the depth of comprehension, as we navigate the intricate melodies of human complexity."
Genuine and real quotes. Where this is light there will always be the dark, hiding in the form of shadows, and in a world where there are winners, there will also be those who lose.
It is terrifying to see how today's villains are more relatable than the heroes that stop them. It's as if we are justifying the wrong ideas. If this trend continues in the next 10 years, children born today will grow up with media and entertainment where the villain's actions are justified. Heroes today need no back story they just needed to stop the bad guys, while the bad guys story needed to be explored and explained how they became one. There was a time when we made stories telling our heroes struggles to overcome evil. Today we tell the stories of villains and how they are overcome by heroes. I hope I never see the day where we make stories where villains overcome heroes. Oh!!!! Wait......
You say this because you have not yet been totoured by people till you reached your breaking point. Villains, most of them were best of people that were destroyed, they are not right they are hurt.
@@TemwaniBotha-zs3ld and you say this because you only see yourself and not the people indirectly affected by your decisions whether they be good or bad. Hitler was once a loving child until he saw the horrors of reality growing up and it still doesn't justify his actions to kill 10 Million people. How many Hitler's, Stalin or Mao Zedong existed in the entire history of mankind was a good person traumatized by some events in their lives becoming monsters? Does their traumatic event justify their actions? Is this what you want to pass on to the next generation of children? That we should sympathize with monsters? No matter what the backstory is, a human turned monster should be eradicated without remorse. This is the reason why instead of sympathizing with monsters we should all focus on understanding one another and respect each other. Because sometimes a victim doesn't need to be pitied or victimized, all they need is a friend who would listen and comfort them and at times protect them if needed.
Hero: "What makes me a hero is saving others so they can become truely good to be heroes of there own...Is that what your referring to?" Villain: "No...Years of fighting and you always put me where I belong and that is in jail. Do you have any idea how many times we fight then it's just me off to prison again and again...Until I realised how much of a bad person you are for not ending my life so these people can live freely from very bad people like me! So tell me, hero... *What* *makes you truly the main villain of this world?"* Hero: "..."
The difference between a hero and a villan is that one wants to win, while one has to lose. And in thier side. Either side, they are the heroes of thier stories.
Characters in Chronological Order: - Madara Uchiha from Naruto - Walter White from Breaking Bad - Scar from The Lion King - Green Goblin from Spider-Man - Voldemort from Harry Potter and The Philosophers Stone - Joker from The Dark Knight - Tai Lung from Kung Fu Panda - Harvey 'Two Face' Dent from The Dark Knight - Bane from The Dark Knight - Thanos from Avengers: Infinity War - Joker again from The Dark Knight - Thanos again from Avengers: Endgame - Syndrome from The Incredibles - Tai Lung again from Kung Fu Panda - Arthur 'Joker' Fleck from Joker
True… but shadow is a glimpse of what darkness really is.. light brings with it the shadows.. the remnants of darkness but once light is gone.. there still exists eternal darkness… and so in my opinion darkness can exist with and without light but light can never be alone.. not as long as there are objects it has to shine upon. Even in complete vaccum, as light travels, it is surrounded by darkness
"I'll waste a couple hours here, and a couple of hours there. I've been doing it for years, yet it seems like no-one cares, so I'll waste another day, one day closer to the grave, I am running out of time to feel the quote I have made. What is wrong with me?" Not a quote, maybe not even accurate, but it's a song lyric from the song: "What is wrong with me?" by le grand
"There is no good and evil." "The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world it didn't exist." Both can't be right at the same time.
They can, since devil isn't necessary evil and god isn't necessary good. Good and evil are merely labels humans put on things, and even in bible a lot more people were killed by god, than by devil.
@@truthspreader1996 Yeah the Bibel saiy that everything that God does is good. Even the killing of entire civilisations or drowning 99.999% of humanity is a moraly god act.
Some of my favorite characters of fiction were villains. Venom, hive minded, he just does and consumes. Thanos without the hopeless romanticism was a cold very calculated smart villain who knew how to put events in order to gain his way without monologues of his plans. Joker, just cause he was unhinged 🤣. Even the T-1000 relentlessly perused his goal, which was the original T-800’s target, if he was human he’d be confused why his counterpart was against him but as a machine it didn’t matter, I liked how he tried using human concepts and approaches to obtain what he wanted
Pain (Nagato): we're just ordinary men who had been driven to seek vengeance in the name of justice. And if one comes to call vengeance justice, such justice will only breed further vengeance in which it will trigger a vicious cycle of hatred. Doflamingo (joker): "Justice will prevail you say? Well of course it is. Because whoever wins this war will become justice"
Made a quote to come back to when j want to (inspired by some of the quotes in this video): "The reason why people think i dont have problems is because i dont tell anyone about them. nobody is gonna care, nobody is willing to help you in your personal life, you cant count on anybody to save you. The world is a cruel place. Expect nothing but pain, sadness, suffering, rage, and futility. Joy is the beautiful lie, suffering is the painful truth
I actually like a villain when their ideas make sense. They have an actual reason to do what they do, even if no one else agrees to it.
Yeah, but I don't like when they use their ideas to justify their terrible acts. I'd hardly say Heath Ledger's joker was "Completely in the right"
Saving people isn't reason enough for you?
shut up
@@ebensennett3095for me vilain ate just more human than heroes. Being able to hold yourself everytime is not really do able and i know all of us at least one time take a really bad decision and cuz of fear or some shit like that decide to stick to that madness idea.
They are just more relatable
@@ArnoldBayema So basically you find villains more relatable because they screw up and don't try to fix it when they do? What kind of attitude is that to take toward life? And please don't reply "realistic," because you'd be surprised how often doing the right thing and doing the "realistic" thing coincide -- it's what's called "enlightened self-interest," which by your own argument villains don't subscribe to.
This shows that sometimes villains aren't the ones who are wrong, but ones that think of the right thing as something different
„Right and wrong is determined by the victors.“
That sounds like some Oprah Winfrey bullshit.
'Personal truths' she calls them.
@@johannesneumayer6041 That's a cop-out. If it were true, then Jesus of Nazareth would have been long forgotten by now.
@@seanbigay1042 who’s that? I‘m not into sports.
@@johannesneumayer6041 Har har. Maybe it'd be more appropriate for me to mention this guy I ran into (so to speak) here on UA-cam. He insists that the Rape of Nanking and the Bataan Death March are fake news. Way he talked, he was just one of many people who think it's okay to deny history they don't like because it puts their side in a bad light, like the Rape, the March, and for all I know the Holocaust. Dunno if they were the victors in WW2, but they certainly have their own idea of right and wrong.
You know Tai Lung is the most right here being that he wanted to be the Dragon Warrior only because Shifu planted the dream in his head from the beginning,he was the one who motivated, encourage and trained to go beyond his limits and be the best but once the dream and goal he had for his whole life was denied to him and his father Shifu the number one person he wanted to make proud of did nothing to stop it,he didn't know how to handle the reality and inevitably descended to darkness
He was betrayed by his master! He wanted to be respected and noticed for his abilities.
@@QuotePediaYT Thanks for replying
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@@QuotePediaYT BULLSHIT. He betrayed himself -- because he always believed it was ALL ABOUT HIM.
You don't get respected and noticed for your abilities because you want to be. Respect and notice must be earned, fair and square.
Remember this line?
"Dormammu -- I've come to bargain!"
Doc Strange locked himself and the extradimensional entity Dormammu in a stable time loop that always led back to that moment when he demanded Dormammu's attention. Dormammu could pound on Strange all he wanted, and did, and it wouldn't break the loop -- not least because Dormammu, a being from outside time and space, had no idea what time was. So after a few zillion times through the loop, Dormammu gave up out of sheer irritation and caved to Strange's demand to leave Earth alone.
Now ask yourself: Would Tai Lung have been willing to do what Doc Strange did?
I rather doubt it. It's all about him, remember? All about his getting the respect and notice and ADORATION he craved.
But if there's no glory waiting for him -- remember, nobody but Doc Strange and his wizardly associates know what he did! -- then why would Tai Lung even care?
Tai Lung is strong in martial arts but his heart is weak
Oogway saw it but Shifu didn't and neither did Tai Lung
Tai is nothing more than any power hungry athlete wanting recognition for his talents, not knowing that martial arts requires a calm mind, a peaceful heart and a humble self.
''nobody thinks what it is like to be other guy ''is the most meaningful quote.
U weak
As kids, we learnt to adore the heroes.
As adults, we began to understand the villians.
Understand, maybe. But agree with them? That's another can of worms entirely.
@@seanbigay1042 but most times, they offer the most human and plausible alternative.
@@yahwedalumiracleonwuneme The most human? The most plausible? Why? Because they reacted in the screwed-up way you've come to expect of most people?
I've ranted in detail about Stanislav Petrov elsewhere in this thread, so let me try to keep this short. On September 26, 1983, the Soviet missile defense system appeared to detect five ICBM launches from the United States. Protocol demanded that then Lt. Col. Petrov, the duty officer in charge of the Soviet command bunker, immediately launch missiles in retaliation. But Petrov, thinking the matter over, decided the whole thing was a false alarm owing to the paltry number of missiles "launched." And he was right -- the system had managed to misidentify sunbeams as missiles.
So. Are you going to tell me Lt. Col. Petrov's reaction was inhuman and implausible?
@@seanbigay1042 human amd plausible here means that it's most likely what we would go for if we have the opportunity they did.
Take any movie villain for example, and compare it with an average human.
@@yahwedalumiracleonwunemeOn May 26, 2018, then 22-year-old Malian migrant Mamoudou Gossama scrambled four stories up the face of a block of flats on 51 rue Marx-Dormoy in Paris' 18th arrondissement in thirty seconds to save a four-year-old boy dangling from a balcony, a feat for which he was lauded as "the Spider-Man of Paris."
So please don't tell me an average human can't be a hero. Or do I have to bring up the Tank Man of Tiananmen Square?
"...I think your confusing peace with quiet."
-Ultron
God i fking love Ultron. Sux the movie didn't do too good
@@1Rhaast They made him a puppet for 13 yo kids to laugh....
@@Alfamoto8 I'm 13 and respect ultron and another of villains
*you're
@@1Rhaast *sucks
“I didn’t spiral into madness. I just adapted to the sadness.”
Not a villain quote. Just a line from a song.
Loved it!
That quote hits hard ima start using it everyday when people makes me mad and feel like I’m worthless
Name of the song?
@@aahahshhshahahaj2364google yielded me:
Don't Feel Pain
By: Connor Quest & Joe Barnes
Not sure or there's more songs containing this line though, nor or OP referenced this one. It is however a title I can offer the curious reader
@@Drag0nvil Life is a harness, and i have failed to harness it, all my attempts only made it more clearer that i am just a, person, a thing
When you make a story, there's often one piece of advice that stands out:
Every villain is the hero of their own story.
And these kind of video shows it.
Except they all understand that they’re going about it the wrong way. Take Thanos, someone a lot of people like to point to as a heroic villain. He was clearly in the wrong, he could’ve wished for infinite resources but instead chose mass murder. He even shows regret that he even wants to do so. They all consider themselves tragic villains.
@@MontycelA yes, of course. But it doesn't change the fact that if you build your villain this way, they will be more endearing, and more understandable.
@@MontycelA I've never heard anyone think that way about Thanos, they all say his plan was moronic and that's because his real reason was butchered, he just wanted to woo Death, it's really that simple.
Sandman Spiderman 3
@@MontycelAthat wasn't possible
" The longer you live, the more you realize that only pain, suffering, and futility exist in this reality. "
- Madara Uchiha.
Nice chuchi Madara quote
The problem with his ideology is that he constantly contradicts himself due to his selfish desire
@@Anon-NG Yeah, I agree with that. Even though he knows he contradicts himself in how he views the world, he continues down that path for a future only he envisions. I think that’s why he said, '...The selfish desire to maintain peace causes war, and hatred is born to protect love.'
I think a lot of people are missing the catalyst of Tai Lung’s downfall. He was abandoned by his own parents and adopted by a Martial Arts Master who, instead of teaching him discipline and self control, hyped him up for greatness when Lung showed a natural talent for Kung Fu. He trained him to be the Dragon Warrior, was more than likely told over and over again that he would become the Dragon Warrior who is arguably the greatest warrior in the KFP universe. When you’re being built towards a goal your entire life without being taught hardly any humility and self control only to be cast down in the blink of an eye can seriously mess someone up psychologically. That’s like training your entire life, literally, for the Olympics only to be told you’re not good enough.
Shifu should have, above all else, taught Lung discipline, respect, and humility. He shouldn’t have filled his head with dreams that he could not foresee coming true. With that said, Lung was old enough to know right from wrong. If he disagreed with the decision, he should have left the temple and wondered on his own. Maybe then he could’ve found enlightenment and realized why he wasn’t chosen.
0 OOGWAY A TROLL & SHiFU A BiTCH. THAT'Z WHAT iT iS. & SHiFU BiTCHED UP WHEN iT MATTERED MOZT ! NO WONDER TAi LUNG WAZ MAD
1 [MAYBE THEN HE COULD'VE FOUND ENLiGHTENMENT AND REALiSED WHY HE WASN'T CHOSEN] DRAGON SCROLL WAZ A REFLECTiON JACKASS. EVEN PO, THE 1 OOGWAY DiD APPOiNT, DiDN'T GET iT
2 HiZ TREACHEROUZ GOOFY AZZ DAD WAZ THE 1 THAT REVEALED iT TO HiM. BY ACCiDENT NO FUCKiNG LEZZ ! BUT PO HAD TO PiECE iT TOGETHER. AiN'T NO ENLiGHTENMENT TO B FOUND ON WHY HE WAZN'T CHOSEN, OTHER THAN SOMEONE NOT TELLiNG HiM THE TRUTH SOONER, OOGWAY!!
[NOT YELLiNG, SURPRiSiNGLY ENOUGH, JUZT LiKE TYPiNG iN CAP]
You just spoiled kfp4 congratulations want a dumpling
@@thenoobreturnz8968 …do you have one?
@@thenoobreturnz8968how did he spoil a movie that's been out for ages now? Kfp4 is NOT about Tai Lung.
@dom-tc2ch you can look it up kfp4 is going to be about Tai lung. And that movie hasn't even been released yet lmao
i really love the type of villain that isn't actually evil at heart, they're just people with different perspective of the world and is given power to do their will
yup, just like that guy in ww2, he only wanted more living space for his people
“Insanity is doing the same f***king thing, over and over, and expecting s**t to change”
-Vaas
Watch the lastest video on my channel!
It has quotes from some amazing game villains! VAAS is also there.
ua-cam.com/video/JSLjQVEQgic/v-deo.html
I'm a simple man, I see Vaas I hit like
Einstein: Hey Vaas, don't make me roll up my sleeves and find out why they call me the MC 😎
yes that is true
What makes tai lung's case so tragic is that he was never his own man, never had any dreams of his own, it was all planted to him by shifu (doesn't matter if shifu intended for this to happen or not, he succeeded in teaching him kung fu, but failed in parenting). The worst pain for him was not getting rejected, but the fact that not even shifu (his father figure) tried to help him recover from this psychologically heartbreaking truth, that it was never his destiny to become the dragon warrior tbw. Being ignored by one person is one thing, but being ignored by your parents (biological, foster, doesn't matter) is the nail on the coffin. I'm not defending his actions when he heard the truth, but I also can't ignore the fact that he was definitely never taught the important life lessons like humility, self control and the ability to forgive, because training and breathing was all he knew to do
If he ever gets redeemed (he deserves it), I'll be there to witness it
Well given Kung Fu panda 4 will have him return, maybe there is a slight chance for him to be redeemed.
@@BanishedSilentShadow3318Nope!:(
its these kind of quotes that really put a perspective on things and what makes some villains iconic and some of the quotes are just so right they may as well be put in stone
Because villains are often masks of the authors. People who have actually lived.
Thats true but damn some of the quotes and moments hit harder then they should
I don't entirely remember this one but Nox's quote from the show Wakfu.
Nox was basically destroying the world to be able to go back in time to save his family and stop himself from destroying the world with his machine. He yelled at the heroes for trying to stop him and they knew what he was doing, with the pain in his voice he yelled that nothing mattered, what he was doing now would never had happened if he stopped himself from doing this.
If he went back in time, saved his family and stopped himself he would have never made the machine that was destroying the world and no one would know who he was because he would never become the villain they knew him as. The guy made complete sense and he wasn't tricking them either, if he did go back in time and do this then the world wouldn't be in danger but in typical hero fashion, the MC said that the fact he is still killing people and stole a priceless and powerful artifact is enough reason to stop him.
My man Nox was completely right in what he was doing and would have reversed the damage he had done but because he was killing people and using a priceless artifact he had to be stopped, by the MC's logic anyway and it was just stupid.
That does actually sound very frustrating to say the least.
Thanks you writing this big of a comment. I will try to find this and add it in a future video.
You mean Wakfu
Doesn't he end up only being able to go back a short time though, it kinda makes all he did wrong worse and would have made th Mc complicit if he'd stood aside and let it fail.
Are you talking about the arc in which Nox went around murdering people for the "wakfu" in order to collect enough to go back in time? And then he pushed through with his plan, and found all the wakfu he'd collected sufficed only to send him a few minutes back in time rather than the many years he was hoping for?
But even if he'd succeeded, he'd still be in the wrong. IMHO his reasoning boils down to, "We had to destroy the village in order to save it." Which is bupkis.
Villains have the most cruel reality perspective in life which is accurate
What -- the villain's perspective is accurate because it's cruel?
Because no individual's life matters, and we should each be out for ourselves alone?
Tell that to Stanislav Petrov.
On September 26, 1983, the Soviet Union's nuclear early warning system appeared to report the launch of an ICBM from the United States, with four more immediately following. But then Lt. Col. Petrov, on duty at the Serpakov-15 bunker near Moscow housing the system's command center, felt sure it was a false alarm. He was sure enough that he did not launch a counterstrike -- and in fact, he was right.
That day, Petrov proved himself, in NASA parlance, a "steely-eyed missileman."
His calm resolve prevented World War III.
And it's because of him that we're even around to debate the pros and cons of villains' beliefs on the Internet.
So don't ever tell me nobody's life matters.
Or that each of us should only look out for ourselves.
@@seanbigay1042i think you misunderstand what he said... its not accurate cause its cruel its cruel cause its accurate, no one said to be selfish people are just inherently selfish out of survival
@@gohan2791 "Villains have the most cruel reality perspective in life which is accurate." What's to misunderstand about that? He says villains' perspective in life is accurate because it's cruel.
For that matter, you just said people are inherently selfish out of survival. Is that so?
On May 26, 2018, then 22-year-old Malian migrant Mamoudou Gassama scrambled four stories up the face of a block of flats on 51 rue Marx-Dormay in Paris' 18th arrondissement, in thirty seconds, to save a four-year-old boy dangling from a balcony. For this feat he was hailed far and wide as the Spider-Man of Paris.
Why did he do it? Not for the reward, though he was subsequently made a French citizen and took up a ten-month contract as a firefighter. As he explained to President Emmanuel Macron, he couldn't NOT do it -- he saw the boy and leapt to the rescue without further thought for himself or anything else but the boy's danger.
Now, not everyone can rise to the occasion as Gassama did. There was a whole crowd milling at the foot of that block of flats, but only Gassama made a move. But don't you think that sometime, somewhere, someone will face an emergency and be moved by the story of the Spider-Man of Paris to do the right thing?
Maybe we all start out selfish for the sake of survival. But we don't have to stay that way. We're better than we think we are.
And it's heroes who teach us this.
Not villains.
@@gohan2791Life's is not cruel, it's indifferent, you just think it's cruel, because you are not winning.
@@gohan2791 The biggest thing that makes a villain a villain isn't their ideals, but the way they act on those ideals. It is fine to recognize the corruption of the world...but to hurt people, often who aren't even the intended targets, is really the wrong way to solve the problem. Usually villains aren't even trying to solve the problem they are pointing out...they are just lashing out which just makes them part of the problem.
Losers are decided by the winners,and winners are not always right.
Neither are losers always right.
There was this guy styling himself N. Smith who told me, here on UA-cam, that neither the Rape of Nanking nor the Bataan Death March happened -- that all that stuff was fake news spread by the Allies.
Now, the Rape of Nanking did happen. So did the Death March. And so, for that matter, did the Holocaust -- something else I'm sure N. Smith denies happened.
Note that it isn't a winner saying all this stuff.
Kids loves heroes. Adult sympathize with villains.
BALLS. GOOD people love heroes. BAD people love villains.
@@seanbigay1042their is nothing about so much good.antiheroes are always better
@@rajibbiswas1752 Sorry for the outburst, but I stand by what I wrote.
Did you read what I wrote elsewhere in this thread about Stanislav Petrov? No? Then here goes:
On September 26, 1983, the Soviet Union's missile defense system appeared to register an ICBM launch from the United States, followed by four more. Had the duty officer at the Soviet system's command bunker followed orders without pausing to think, he would've launched missiles in "retaliation" (note the quotes), the Americans would have retaliated in return, World War III would have happened, and we wouldn't be here to argue the pros and cons of heroism or anything else, being too dead to argue.
But then-Lt. Col. Petrov was the duty officer at the time. He reasoned that the Amis wouldn't launch a mere five missiles when they had five THOUSAND ready to go, and that the apparent detection was a glitch. So, he didn't respond. And guess what? He turned out to be right. The system had somehow misread sunbeams as missile launches.
Lt. Col. Petrov had been what NASA calls a "steely-eyed missileman" -- he remained calm and rational under conditions that virtually mandated his freaking out. And because he did, he prevented World War III from happening. He saved us all.
Now going back to your statement, if by "antiheroes" you meant "people with hang-ups like ordinary mortals," then I can't argue with you there. People who feel fear under stress are more relatable than people who feel nothing. Even Superman feels fear, praying, "Oh God, don't let me screw up." (Certainly the Superman of the new Adult Swim toon does.)
But courage isn't the lack of fear. It's all in how you use that fear, and not let it use you. If Lt. Col. Petrov had given way to his fears, the world would have ended. But he didn't.
If you're going to argue that someone who didn't react as Lt. Col. Petrov did would have made for a more interesting character ... then, IMHO, I'm afraid you have some major issues to contend with.
What you will call Oppenheimer huh?he was a villain or not?.somehow relatiable.Nowadays youths are watching basically bts etc stuff.i am not complaining about it.its okay in some point.they even dont know histroy.bullshit social media stuff.they think they are smart so much.Even vincent vin Gogh suffered so much.this society ignorance is bliss.
Sympathize, maybe. Admire and agree with? That's something else.
Green Goblin's rooftop monologue scene is one of my favorite Spider-Man scenes
I think, it's not always what they believe in, it's the way they go about it that makes them the villain. Madara for example wanted peace and an end to things like war and suffering, but the way he went about it turned him into the villain. That's just my hot take on things, ik it's not always that way but for these characters I feel like it somewhat fits.
You can feel the simultaneous pain and anger in tai lungs voice as he yells at shifu. Hits hard
" The greatest trick the devil ever pulled, was convincing the world he doesn't exist"
Okay these words really hit me 😭😔
yup I hated it when people would say the devil made him/her do it when something evil would happen like seriously you really believe a red guy with horns from storie books did this no the real devil's of this would is (but not all) is society
True devil only tempts and bring suggestions, he doesn't move or control bodies like puppets it's humans choice
Sindro's also is pretty good. He became a broken villian. Then again that's how most villain's are made.
Sindro or Syndrome? As in the little bastard who was so fixated on become Mr. Incredible's sidekick that he got in Mr. Incredible's way, thereby endangering all the people Mr. Incredible was trying to help? And when Mr. Incredible rejected him for this, he grew up to be an embittered whack-job prepared to slaughter superheroes wholesale in order to train the super-robot he'd built to fake feats of super-heroism and get the glory that was all he ever wanted?
None of this is even remotely admirable.
When I saw KFP3 delving into the spirit realm and ringing back dead warriors, I really wanted to see a redemption arc for Tai Lung. Maybe with Oogway being his master in the afterlife, helping him find peace. That would've made it go full circle for Shifu.
Well apparently Tai Lung is coming back in Kung Fu Panda 4. So there is a chance he could still get a redemption arc.
@@storimusprime5566this did not age well 😂
@@owenwoolley3394 yeah it really didn’t…
Voldemort is right about there not being good or evil, but he's wrong about power being the only motivation to do things.
God represents good, Satan represents evil, while we’re complicated, insane, and usually choose what’s easy for ourselves
The hardest choice anyone can make is choosing to recognize their own faults and flaws and move forward
@@jamestolbert1856 Truth
@@jamestolbert1856 Precisely -- and it's one thing the villains in this piece all share: They are incapable of saying the simple words, "It's my fault."
Good and Evil do exist, and I'm not saying that because I'm religious. No matter which way you put it, there's constructive and destructive. There's Right and Wrong. There's violence, and force. Violence is merely force without good reasons. To deny evil exists is to commit evil. By not recognizing wrong, you will never do anything right.
Tai Lung's downfall was not entirely his fault. It also lies in Shifu. He trained Tai Lung, probably encourages him or telling him that he was MEANT to be the Dragon Warrior.
But the moment Oogway rejected him. What did Shifu do? Nothing. Tai Lung saw his father abandoned him, casted him aside, doing nothing for the only thing that Shifu trained him to and told him he could be.
That's pretty much true, like even his name means "great dragon" which I'm sure Shifu wanted Tai Lung to be the dragon warrior. It's pretty sad how shifu did abandon him when all shifu could've did that day was consult with his adopted son, that even if he didn't get the name "dragon warrior" he's still proud of him.
Atleast something like that, which shifu could do still since Tai Lung is returning in Kung Fu Panda 4
If Tai Lung understood patience and self control, he would have had the scroll.
Nah,he had enough patience with the wait...
@@ZAND4TSUcap
@@MontycelA no cap bruh
He was patient all his life. It was literally denied of him right in his face. That patience he had since a literal child was all for nothing, that's why he went rampant. All that training, suffering, just for another man's dream.
He was
It was after oogway say no he changed
*"I tried everything, every goddam day, but society and people like them keep kicking us down."*
-A villain's line in a MHA fanfiction
Any chance you could share the source? Looking for a new fanfic to read.
@@GurenZ01I would like to know to.
villains are born, they are made by society and incidents occurred in their life.
When the first person to make a quote is Madara, you already know these villans gonna be spitin straight facts
Madara's speech is still chilling! 😊
"There are many types of monsters in this world, monsters who will not show themselves, and who cause trouble, monsters who abduct children, monsters who devour dreams, monsters who suck blood and monsters who always tell lies" L, Death Note
Insulting and hurting someone's feelings is like throwing a rock into a pond, you never know how deep it goes.
Tai lung and joker always gets my emotions
Idk if you should really emphasize with the joker lol
Hope fully only emotions
This beautiful ❤️ I cried tears of Joy when it got to Bane and Thanos and the way the background music builds up is beautiful
Filled with compassion with villains, that was really touching!
They didn't choose to be a villain
Life forced them to be it
And we just making it worst than ever
People want the hero
But the hero need a villain
So is the earth need water
So is the fire need air
Either you are hero or villain
You are the same
'Cause we are human
And we know "pain"
I feel villains have seen more pain than heroes.
Maybe yes or... maybe no
Villain is just a word for those who want to live in a better word of their imagination. They might seen more pain than heroes but sometime heroes know more about pain than them
That’s a lie, there’s always a choice. Madara, thanos, and syndrome never even had to hurt anyone. The joker kinda did given that subway scene where he would’ve been killed, but other than that he just likes killing people. Tai lung was misguided but that isn’t an excuse to start trying to get an irl kill streak. All of these villains are so petty, that’s why they’re villains. They disguise lies under truth to cover up the reality they’ve molded for themselves. I hate when people say things like “society made them do it” nobody makes you do anything, in the end it’s your finger behind the trigger, and your choice to pull it. It’s not that hard to understand.
@@icemoon_yiio2345No it isn’t.
@@QuotePediaYT Batman, Starlord, Wolverine, Damian Wayne, a lot of robins, spider man, Deadpool, Luke Skywalker, and Guts would like to disagree. Not to mention all the ones I either forgot or don’t know of
Right ideals, but misguided, something almost everyone suffers from which is what makes these villains so great.
I especially love Tai Lung vs Shifu, if you look at it objectively. Yeah its not Shifus fault tai lung didnt get the scroll, it was completely up to Oogway and he didnt see him as worthy. As a kid, when I saw this I understood that and I wondered why Tai lung didnt vent his anger out on Oogway rather than Shifu.
As a young man, viewing this from Tai Lungs perspective is frustrating, and heart breaking. Hearing Tai Lungs rant of frustration, you can almost hear the confusion and misguidedness within the snow leapards soul. He talks about wanting the scroll, but his complaints eminate from his grueling training and rough upbringing as a kung fu warrior. When he flashes back to when he was denied the scroll he doesnt focus on the fact he was denied by Oogway, he emphasizes on the fact Shifu did NOTHING. Tai Lung will always have a place as one of my favorite villians because he was able to convey so much in the little amount of time we got of him. I truly hopes he appears in KFP 4 and manages to find the inner peace he so desperately wants, rather than chasing the affection and validation of his father, he learns to give himself that validation and truly move forward.
True, he wasn't upset that he didn't get the scroll, he was upset, that Shifu didn't help him come to terms with his broken dream.
1:43 This shows why anime protagonists that are powerful enough to overpower any opponent are hated,haters are picky watchers.
There is a concept of reality and then there is a choice.
You aither change the perspective how you see it or you allow yourself to see a different concept.
True!
The incredibles one is very interesting. In the real scene Bob's attention is on holding bomb voyage when he tells buddy he works alone. Yet when syndrome recalls it Bob is denying him directly.
I just went looking for the scene and found the comparison video. This is very true, thank you for that.
Exactly. Syndrome effectively rewrote his own memory in order to justify himself.
Beauty!!!❤
Goblin's quote is so true. Theres no false words in it
yeah, it just shows how pathetic humanity is. I use his quote to directly link with that from Dracula(2011 I think) - Sometimes humanity does not deserve a Hero to look up too, they deserve a MONSTER to fear.
If you see a ''Hero'' and wish to see them fail, to watch their downfall, then you do not deserve that HERO, you deserve them to become the monster you have all feared. The Superman idea, given up trying to help humanity, as no matter what he does, he can't change anything and suffering always continues - so he simply now takes charge of THE PLANET, and humanity now is in a dictatorship planet wide under his control.
It's literally been disproven by the very movie though where the citizens helped Peter when he tried saving both MJ and the kids in the bridge. Not at all people mind you since Norman too is human and he wants to see Peter suffer by doing bad things against him. People who uses this quote and fail to realize its not absolute are living red flags themselves.
@@silenthero2795But that doesn't debunked goblins quote because that's what happen to Tom's Spiderman when mysterio made him look like villan despite being sacrificing himself and turning into dust for 5 years and then fighting for the whole universe people at the end starts hating him just because of one misunderstanding society will blinding believe in what they see and hear that's how most of human logic works people will only hear from one side and decide what is right and what is wrong
@@Manish_sahu1 In Mysterio's case, most people thought he was a superhero so to them, Spider-man just killed a fellow superhero after causing such destruction using Stark tech. The people don't hate Spider-man for being Spider-man but for his supposed actions. Aside from that, there will always be people going against Spiderman because that's who they are. It's crazy that in the MCU, Peter couldn't easily prove his innocence when he has the whole Avengers backing him up.
No one gonna award the real life people who wrote these quotes?
One quote that always stuck with me was one that Batman said,I know this mostly villains but this one just hits: “…Sometimes People deserve more. Sometimes people deserve to have their faith rewarded” . Each time I read it I’m like Oof!
Tai Lung hits me in the feels, i've been... no i am still am there.
There are just villains who you don't agree with, you want to die, but you can clearly see where they are coming from. And if you would be so different if you had lived their life.
Part of me wanted Tai lung to get the dragon scroll first time around seeing how it all played out... Oolong stopping him from getting to the blank scroll, protecting his, lesson, that he hoped someone would eventually figure out for themselves... of course, he couldn't be there when they did...
The third quote from Thanos the one about unable to see what can be, feels like most of the MCU fandom right now. Always looking back at Phase 1 to 4… not seeing what could be the future
The future is screwed bozo look at the recent movies lmao.
More like Disney hasn’t learned that lesson, always unable to accept what can be without their Wokeness everywhere
The differences between Hero and Villian, is just "LACK OF APPRECIATION" and " THE ABSENCE OF MENTOR"
Whoever wrote that first quote is the real hero
The best quotes tend to come from the lease likely sources for example, my two favorite is "When there is evil in this world that Justice cannot defeat, Would You taint Your hands with evil to defeat evil? Or would you remain steadfast and righteous even if it means serending earn to evil?" And " If happiness has a form, What would it look like? It might be something like glass, Because one doesn't notice it normally. However, It is actually there. As proof, If you look at it from a different angle, The glass will reflect light. It will state it's purpose and existence more Elegantly then any other thing in this world."
This is why heroes who think they are wrong but understand that the villains have been right all along about the harsh reality. No matter what the humans do of their heinous acts, they still can't learn from their mistakes they made only to just repeat itself in a endless cycle.
“As a child, I was taught to build a ladder to greatness, to my dreams. It was only as an adult that I learned that I can’t hold both ends from the middle” - Unknown
I always tried to do the right thing, to make others happy. The world is full of things, happiness, loss, anger, frustration, sadness... And hope... Nobody cared back then. It seems they do now. I still try to do the right thing but this time only for myself.
I'm not evil, I'm not a bad guy, I'm trying to do what I believe is right. I'm trying to make my life better, I'm trying to fullfil what I'm born for... And we happen to cross paths, standing in each others way. I will ask you twice to stand aside from my path. If you do we will go our separate ways, I hope that we don't see each other again. But if you stand in my way I will pass over you. I don't want to do it but if it becomes necessary I will crush you so I can go on my path. I don't want to bring suffering but I will if it's necessary.
I don't want to justify why I'm doing this, the world never justified the things it did to me and it still doesn't. I don't want to explain why because I fear you may be so compelled that you want to join me and I don't want that to happen. You have a path, a better one. I hope if we ever happen to meet each other again it be in a better situation and that we both have found the peace that we're looking for
Most villains have a purpose. Someone did something to make them bad. Like Syndrome. He was just a kid and he was only misguided because he had a bomb on his cape thinking Mr.Incredible didn't want him to be better than him. But Mr.Incredible shouldn't push buddy away like that no matter how many times buddy kept trying to help. Tai Lung was good. He didn't have an evil heart. It was just his nature. That's also why Tigress wasn't chosen. Ugway knew a panda is both aggressive and calm. Then balance between good and evil. Ying and Yang. But most of the villains had something bad to them to make them a villain. Most of the villains are actually good but are on the wrong side. But that's when the hero steps in and stops their evil plans. That makes a fight between them. When the villain loses and the crowd cheers for the heroes the villain only feels more rage and anger.
I disagree, while some villains did become evil from circumstance Syndrome wasn't "made" bad. He worshiped Mr. Incredible and despite being able to use his genius for good chose to murder dozens of heros to one-up his former favorite even when he had Mr. Incredible at his mercy he didn't kill him instead he just gloated that he won and instead of stopping since his point was proven actively chose to attack innocent civilians to play pretend. I can see why Mr. Incredible pushed Buddy away, he didn't want a child getting hurt or killed on his watch and it's clear that it wasn't the first time Buddy interfered with his hero work. Him accidently letting Bomboyage get away to hurt/kill more people, cause a train wreck and it being his wedding night didn't help Buddy's impression of usefulness, though telling the kid "I work alone" shouldn't have torn him apart like that since it seems he was rejected quite frequently though if Mr. Incredible explained that Buddy had a bomb attached to him and gave him a chance to look forward to for 'training' when he was more mature it might have helped then again his parents should have warned him of the dangers of hero worship.
@@starkiller1289 That's true. I wasn't referring Buddy to be good or bad. I don't know how old Buddy is but he seems like he's almost a teen but a childs biggest role model is who they look up to. Maybe he doesn't have a father so he looked up to Mr.Incredible like one. Mr.Incredible pushed Buddy away a lot even though Buddy shouldn't have done it continuesly Mr.Incredible could have taken a different approach. You can see Buddy wants to be a sidekick and wanted to be a hero. Buddy is a smart kid to have made rocket boots but he is only smart when he is inventing or making things to make himself look like a hero but not smart enough to understand things going on around him. For all we know he could have been rejected by all the other supers and he thought Mr.Incredible was his best choice. Buddy was torn apart when Mr.Incredible told him he worked alone. So Buddy tried to fly off trying to prove he was worthy to Mr.Incredible. Buddy was probably desperate and wanted to try one more time but Mr.Incredible stopped him because of the bomb and Buddy thought Mr.Incredible was stopping him from becoming a hero. Buddy was framed as a bad guy because he was in a police car. Buddy desperately wanted to become a hero so he killed off the other heroes and tried to prove Mr.Incredible a point. Buddy desperately wanted to become famous and show how good he was. So he killed off the other heroes so he was more noticeable and became the one and only hero. But he doesn't care about heroes anymore and only wanted to become famous seeing heroes have powers and Buddy doesn't. Buddy desperately wants to become famous or a hero so he tries to kidnap Jack Jack at the end. He wanted a sidekick that he wanted to be. To be honest I don't think Buddy deserved to die in the plane propellers. He must have had so much hatred and tried to get what he wanted even though it wasn't the right thing. His mum not helping him and most likely ignoring him and having his idol tell him he doesn't need him in a bad tone. Buddy could have made up for everything at the end but people would still hate him. Buddy would have gone to prison either way and would have helped getting rid of supers in the future of he was still mad. Mr.Incredible probably doesn't know Buddy died in the propeller but he didn't care. If Buddy survived from it and saw Mr.Incredible still didn't care he would become very villainous. Buddy was a misguided child and because he was younger he chose a different path. I don't remember saying he was made bad or if it was a typo.
Make them bad as in something got them upset and that's why they chose a different path
Hard to explain
"In the symphony of life, childhood serenades the adoration of heroes, while the crescendo of adulthood unveils a nuanced understanding of villains-an evolution from the simplicity of admiration to the depth of comprehension, as we navigate the intricate melodies of human complexity."
2:27 Instant goosebumps
"I came to realize some creatures are born to get _all_ the love. The rest of us get *NOTHING!"*
Dave from Penguins of Madagascar
" Hardest choices require strongest wills " Thanos
Genuine and real quotes.
Where this is light there will always be the dark, hiding in the form of shadows, and in a world where there are winners, there will also be those who lose.
There's the better Green Goblin quote IMO "In spite of everything you've done for them. Eventually they will hate you."
This is why I relate to them
It is terrifying to see how today's villains are more relatable than the heroes that stop them.
It's as if we are justifying the wrong ideas. If this trend continues in the next 10 years, children born today will grow up with media and entertainment where the villain's actions are justified.
Heroes today need no back story they just needed to stop the bad guys, while the bad guys story needed to be explored and explained how they became one.
There was a time when we made stories telling our heroes struggles to overcome evil.
Today we tell the stories of villains and how they are overcome by heroes.
I hope I never see the day where we make stories where villains overcome heroes.
Oh!!!! Wait......
You say this because you have not yet been totoured by people till you reached your breaking point. Villains, most of them were best of people that were destroyed, they are not right they are hurt.
@@TemwaniBotha-zs3ld and you say this because you only see yourself and not the people indirectly affected by your decisions whether they be good or bad.
Hitler was once a loving child until he saw the horrors of reality growing up and it still doesn't justify his actions to kill 10 Million people.
How many Hitler's, Stalin or Mao Zedong existed in the entire history of mankind was a good person traumatized by some events in their lives becoming monsters? Does their traumatic event justify their actions?
Is this what you want to pass on to the next generation of children? That we should sympathize with monsters?
No matter what the backstory is, a human turned monster should be eradicated without remorse.
This is the reason why instead of sympathizing with monsters we should all focus on understanding one another and respect each other. Because sometimes a victim doesn't need to be pitied or victimized, all they need is a friend who would listen and comfort them and at times protect them if needed.
"We often try to make sense of the madness, but only the wise knows how to embrace them."
For Joker to appear twice in this vídeo, it says a lot about the Character and the actor Heath Ledger
three if you count Phenix
Growing up i loved heroes but now im older , i understand villains
Hero: "What makes me a hero is saving others so they can become truely good to be heroes of there own...Is that what your referring to?"
Villain: "No...Years of fighting and you always put me where I belong and that is in jail. Do you have any idea how many times we fight then it's just me off to prison again and again...Until I realised how much of a bad person you are for not ending my life so these people can live freely from very bad people like me! So tell me, hero... *What* *makes you truly the main villain of this world?"*
Hero: "..."
Hero: “You’re right.”
The difference between a hero and a villan is that one wants to win, while one has to lose.
And in thier side. Either side, they are the heroes of thier stories.
That’s a lie
Even though what they’re saying is right it doesn’t necessarily mean the actions they take in response is right
Villains are the heroes we all rejected and abandoned cause we didn't able to understand their pain.
Growing up is realizing Tai Lung just wanted to make his father proud.
Day one of watching this and being motivated by it and training with this
Train hard bro and let those mfs know who are you!!!
Voldemort and Tai Lung's ones hit different bro.
Voldemort? Nah
Sitting alone and enjoying your own company is better than being with fake people
Hero’s born from the conflicts that plague them
While villains are fostered by the society that allowed those conflicts to exist.
I like that explanation.
Heros are those that never gave up against the bad that happend against them.
Vilains gave up and became the evil.
@@Chambi10614such a naive look on the world
@@narrow3601 Nah
Very often a villain doesn't see themselves as a villain, because to them they're doing what they think is best for the people around them.
i have a strong felling that all these villains would apply perfectly in our world, because the reality we live in is the one we are molded by
The greatest villains are those you can empathize with.
Characters in Chronological Order:
- Madara Uchiha from Naruto
- Walter White from Breaking Bad
- Scar from The Lion King
- Green Goblin from Spider-Man
- Voldemort from Harry Potter and The Philosophers Stone
- Joker from The Dark Knight
- Tai Lung from Kung Fu Panda
- Harvey 'Two Face' Dent from The Dark Knight
- Bane from The Dark Knight
- Thanos from Avengers: Infinity War
- Joker again from The Dark Knight
- Thanos again from Avengers: Endgame
- Syndrome from The Incredibles
- Tai Lung again from Kung Fu Panda
- Arthur 'Joker' Fleck from Joker
How many adults look back at their childhood and empathize with Tai Lung?
Villains are more important than heroes. You can have story without hero. But no good story ever missed good villain.
“Wherever there’s light there’s shadow”
“Vice versa, one can’t exist without the other”-me
True… but shadow is a glimpse of what darkness really is.. light brings with it the shadows.. the remnants of darkness but once light is gone.. there still exists eternal darkness… and so in my opinion darkness can exist with and without light but light can never be alone.. not as long as there are objects it has to shine upon. Even in complete vaccum, as light travels, it is surrounded by darkness
"I'll waste a couple hours here, and a couple of hours there. I've been doing it for years, yet it seems like no-one cares, so I'll waste another day, one day closer to the grave, I am running out of time to feel the quote I have made. What is wrong with me?"
Not a quote, maybe not even accurate, but it's a song lyric from the song: "What is wrong with me?" by le grand
"There is no good and evil."
"The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world it didn't exist."
Both can't be right at the same time.
They can, since devil isn't necessary evil and god isn't necessary good. Good and evil are merely labels humans put on things, and even in bible a lot more people were killed by god, than by devil.
@@ceu160193 My, brother, you do not understand the Bible.
Good and evil definitely exist. But shades of gray also exist
@@truthspreader1996 Yeah the Bibel saiy that everything that God does is good. Even the killing of entire civilisations or drowning 99.999% of humanity is a moraly god act.
@@Chambi10614 It literally says no one except Noah was righteous. Why are you picking one part of the story and ignoring the other one?
“As youngster we love hero,but as we grow up we understand villains”
“When everyones super, no one will be.” The Truth has been spoken
Im getting chills
Brah the fact they started with Madara, you know these quotes are good
There is no good or evil, there is only power hits hard
Handsome Jack: "Everyone thinks they are the Hero of their own Story"
"The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convince the world he didn't exist" chills 🥶
You see an antagonist does not have to be a villain ...
Edit : Most of these guys are villains
The greatest villains are not the ones that oppose good. They are the ones that believe it doesn’t exist.
Some of my favorite characters of fiction were villains. Venom, hive minded, he just does and consumes. Thanos without the hopeless romanticism was a cold very calculated smart villain who knew how to put events in order to gain his way without monologues of his plans. Joker, just cause he was unhinged 🤣. Even the T-1000 relentlessly perused his goal, which was the original T-800’s target, if he was human he’d be confused why his counterpart was against him but as a machine it didn’t matter, I liked how he tried using human concepts and approaches to obtain what he wanted
“The greatest trick the devil ever pulled is convincing the world that he never existed” that hit harder than expected 🔥
Pain (Nagato):
we're just ordinary men who had been driven to seek vengeance in the name of justice. And if one comes to call vengeance justice, such justice will only breed further vengeance in which it will trigger a vicious cycle of hatred.
Doflamingo (joker):
"Justice will prevail you say? Well of course it is. Because whoever wins this war will become justice"
Made a quote to come back to when j want to (inspired by some of the quotes in this video): "The reason why people think i dont have problems is because i dont tell anyone about them. nobody is gonna care, nobody is willing to help you in your personal life, you cant count on anybody to save you. The world is a cruel place. Expect nothing but pain, sadness, suffering, rage, and futility. Joy is the beautiful lie, suffering is the painful truth
Madara: Wake up to reality.
His plan: put everyone into an infinite dream.
That's call irony!
From 1:43 to 2:33 it’s probably the best lines in the entire video