Can you prove it? The Intermediate Value Theorem

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  • Опубліковано 16 гру 2024

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  • @MrAllenmath
    @MrAllenmath 3 роки тому +6

    I've been wanting a solid proof of IVT and here it is. Thank you!

  • @omjoglekar3677
    @omjoglekar3677 3 роки тому +18

    Wait . . .till now I thought that the IVT was intuitive. I mean it is. But there exists a proof ? And that too formal ? Whoa ! COOL !

    • @damyankorena
      @damyankorena 11 місяців тому +2

      oh my god we have the same profile picture

    • @omjoglekar3677
      @omjoglekar3677 11 місяців тому

      yay !@@damyankorena

  • @dylank6191
    @dylank6191 3 роки тому +11

    Exactly the way I proved it as well. I just said that, without loss of generality, we can assume c = 0 (we can consider g(z) := f(z) - c which is continuous, so if we show that g(z) = 0 for a z in (a,b), we know that f(z) = c for this exact z) which makes everything a bit easier to write down and visualize.

  • @ghstmn7320
    @ghstmn7320 9 місяців тому +2

    Hello there! My school textbook has a proof of IVT by using Bolzano Theorem which states if a function is continuous at [a, b] and f(a)*f(b)

    • @drpeyam
      @drpeyam  9 місяців тому +1

      Same thing!

  • @alieser7770
    @alieser7770 3 роки тому +1

    sir i love you so much, you're one of the few UA-camrs that I think are wonderful people in real life too

  • @rodrigocalixto470
    @rodrigocalixto470 Рік тому +4

    12:15 Did you mean for N "very big" instead of "very small"?

  • @raminrasouli191
    @raminrasouli191 3 роки тому +1

    I haven't seen the proof in a long time. Thanks 🍉❤❤🌷

  • @ninafiliakelly3086
    @ninafiliakelly3086 2 роки тому

    Thank you so much for making these videos. They have really helped my university maths as everything you explain makes so much sense!

  • @luisrosano3510
    @luisrosano3510 3 роки тому

    Thank you Dr Peyam. Always is a pleasure watch you channel.

  • @justincallan2549
    @justincallan2549 4 роки тому

    How come at 10:20 the limit is

    • @justincallan2549
      @justincallan2549 4 роки тому +1

      Wait no never mind, disregard that ^^ i convinced myself haha say: (-1/n) < 0 but lim (-1/n) = 0

    • @drpeyam
      @drpeyam  4 роки тому +1

      Yep :)

    • @irinaignatova1799
      @irinaignatova1799 3 роки тому

      The set I= ]-inf;a[ is not closed in R, which means, there exist sequence of element of I, which converges, but the limit is no longer in I
      The sequence s_n is exactly this kind of sequence
      The same goes for your (1/n) sequence
      Each element of your sequence is inside ]0;+inf[ but your limit is not in ]0;+inf[

  • @broccoloodle
    @broccoloodle 3 роки тому

    Your analysis proofs are always beautiful

  • @mrdavetrouble
    @mrdavetrouble Рік тому

    yes, this proof is beautiful. But would you agree "beauty is in the eye of the beholder" so we can not all be viewed beautiful even though we are. How do you feel about route to the summit using the nested interval theorem.

  • @noahtaul
    @noahtaul 3 роки тому +1

    Did you ever give a topological version of this proof, not using metric spaces but proving that continuous image of connected is connected? There's all these topological properties that continuous functions preserve, and you have to remember whether it's f or f^-1, like open, closed, compact, connected, etc. And each of them is a new theorem/definition when interpreted in the metric space context.

  • @jimmykitty
    @jimmykitty 3 роки тому

    Wow!! Elegantly explained Boss 🤩
    Thanks for posting the video ❤🌿

    • @drpeyam
      @drpeyam  3 роки тому +1

      You’re welcome!!!

    • @jimmykitty
      @jimmykitty 3 роки тому

      @@drpeyam ❤❤🌿🌿

  • @anshumanagrawal346
    @anshumanagrawal346 3 роки тому +1

    The proof is absolutely 😘 indeed

  • @rahulseetharaman261
    @rahulseetharaman261 2 роки тому

    Hello Sir, could you please elaborate a bit more on how you used

  • @mrdavetrouble
    @mrdavetrouble Рік тому

    well done my friend

  • @martinepstein9826
    @martinepstein9826 3 роки тому +1

    Great vid. We can also use open balls instead of sequences. Suppose f(x0) < c. Then by continuity of f there is an open ball about x0 whose image is < c. This ball contains points in S greater than x0 which contradicts the fact that x0 is an upper bound of S. On the other hand, suppose f(x0) > c. Then by continuity of f there is an open ball about x0 whose image is > c. This ball contains upper bounds of S less than x0 which contradicts the fact the x0 is the _least_ upper bound of S. Hence f(x0) = c.

    • @martinepstein9826
      @martinepstein9826 3 роки тому

      Speaking of real analysis, I looked at Folland's 'Real Analysis' the other day. I found two of his definitions extremely interesting: the limit supremum and limit infimum of a sequence of _sets_ E1, E2, E3, ...
      One is defined as the intersection from k=1 to oo of the union from i=k to oo of Ei. The other is the same but with "union" and "intersection" swapped. To make sure I understood, I intentionally forgot which was which and tasked myself with figuring it out based on what makes conceptual sense. These definitions suggest that an arbitrary sequence of sets "converges" if its limit supremum equals its limit infimum. I wonder how this relates to traditional limits in calculus and topology.

    • @drpeyam
      @drpeyam  3 роки тому +1

      There are videos precisely on that, check out my sequences playlist

    • @martinepstein9826
      @martinepstein9826 3 роки тому

      @@drpeyam Hi Dr. Peyam, I checked out the playlist but I only found content for sequences of real numbers, not sequences of arbitrary sets. Maybe I just missed it. I can see if you take real numbers to be Dedekind cuts then the notions are actually equivalent.

  • @dgrandlapinblanc
    @dgrandlapinblanc 2 роки тому

    Thank you very much.

  • @szewing9038
    @szewing9038 4 роки тому

    Hi Dr Peyam at 14:18 why f of TN is greater than or equal c ?I think it's just greater than c only no equal sign.
    Thanks.

    • @drpeyam
      @drpeyam  4 роки тому +2

      Yes but if it’s > c then it’s >= c

  • @guill3978
    @guill3978 3 роки тому +1

    Can you prove in a video that the area of an squircle x^n+y^n=1 es equal to 4*(gamma(1+1/n))^2/gamma(1+2/n)?

    • @drpeyam
      @drpeyam  3 роки тому

      That’s a nice idea

  • @nicholascousar4306
    @nicholascousar4306 10 місяців тому

    Can the IVT be restated as the following? If f is continuous on the interval [a,b], then for every c between f(a) and f(b), c belongs to the image set of f([a,b]).

    • @drpeyam
      @drpeyam  10 місяців тому +1

      Yes, by definition of image set

  • @mattetor6726
    @mattetor6726 Рік тому

    Thank you! I c what you did there!

  • @SimsHacks
    @SimsHacks Рік тому

    Baby analysis : Proof of IVT
    Adult analysis: Proof of IFT 😂

  • @adityaekbote8498
    @adityaekbote8498 3 роки тому

    Can you do a video on line integrals which are very generalized I get it for like R¹ or R² but it's hard to visualize for R^n/ n-integrals like there are double and triple integrals I want to know (and think something interesting will happen in the infinite case but I maybe wrong)

  • @yoav613
    @yoav613 3 роки тому

    Nice prrof. What about cool integral are you planning one?

  • @isaacstamper7798
    @isaacstamper7798 4 роки тому +2

    Are you using Pugh's Real Mathematical Analysis book for this course? I'm using it for a course right now and a lot of the examples you give are the same.

    • @drpeyam
      @drpeyam  4 роки тому

      I love that book!!! Lucky you, it was the same I used when I took analysis. But no, the videos are based on the book by Ross

  • @whatitmeans
    @whatitmeans 3 роки тому

    Here is a somehow related questions, about upper bounds for maximum slew rate of functions.. I hope you could talk about it on your videos: on math stack exchange, question 4269062

  • @117hippo3
    @117hippo3 3 роки тому

    중간값의 정리인가요?

    • @reeeeeplease1178
      @reeeeeplease1178 3 роки тому

      In english it's called
      Intermediate Value Theorem
      Hope this helps :D

  • @nnnn0596
    @nnnn0596 3 роки тому

    Always radioactive💫🤍

  • @lancege8596
    @lancege8596 3 роки тому

    中值定理

  • @chessematics
    @chessematics 3 роки тому

    Back to classroom????