Stick with the A770, and maybe consider the Intel Arc Celestial GPUs. Heck, I personally would wait for the Intel Arc Druid GPUs. A770 should easily last you for the next 3-4 years.
The B580 is only 10-15% faster than the A770 in most games. In some, the difference is less than 10%. Not to mention that you would be downgrading your VRAM from 16GB to 12GB. Wait for the B770 (if it exists) or the Celestial.
@@rannarharmaste9857 They can only get you so far, UE5 is absolutely drowning all GPUs, even the 4090 can't keep up 60 fps at 4k, remember that this is the card that in normal games can max out a 180 Hz monitor at these settings. "Peasant" cards like the 3060 are equally fucked. Though Arc in some games may have even greater slowdown.
Funnily enough, Doom 2016 and Doom Eternal don't look **any** worse than recent titles. These developers and CEOs don't care about their games AT ALL. Graphics from several games made 5+ years ago still holds up pretty well.
I tried the original Hexen II (from GOG) a few days back. Software rendering is entirely broken. As for 3D accelerated, with nGlide they've converted it from Glide to DX9 and Vulkan. In DX9 it runs worse than with Glide on my Vooodoo 1 and K6-2+ 450 PC, a rig maybe appropriate for 1999. Vulkan is just fine as you may guess. I wish the other id games got nearly as much love as Doom gets.
Hexen isn't an id game. It was made by Raven Software. Btw all id developed games doom, quake and rage have all been updated and maintained for modern platforms. Quake 1 and 2 even got a remaster.
@@McTest-uo8bx Hexen is published by id and the games were built in the same engines as Doom and Quake, the games have been open sourced in the same fashion as the id games, I say it's fair to put them under the id Software umbrella. I guess the Heretic and Hexen games aren't that popular cause people see the id logo, see that they are built in Doom and Quake's engines and expect the same kind of first person shooter experience, despite them being something completely separate
I could try it on my Arc A750 if you want. Never even thought to check, Doom is a blast at 5 fps on a 386SX, let alone with even more than the 35 fps limit in the original. But it will most likely be a CPU bottleneck, so it should depend entirely on how fast that is.
Alright, tested, GZDoom is in fact capped at 500 FPS. Vulkan or OpenGL, it does not really matter, my setup has no issues hitting that limit at barely over idle power. I'd say without the limit it would reach around 1000 fps, just as Quake II does.
@@Igor369 Don't feel so bad, I've recently put together an Athlon 64 X2 rig to run the Haiku OS. In SoftwareGL it barely runs Chocolate Doom at 15 fps. GZDoom refuses to launch in software mode, with OpenGL (through a blistering fast Radeon 7000 PCI from 2001) gets about 5 FPS.
Can you do some Cyberpunk 2077 path tracing benchmark at 1080p/1440p with the "Cyberpunk Ultra Plus - Engine Control Panel - Bug Fixes - 1.58x Faster Path Tracing - AMD and Nvidia" mod, and latest XeSS and FSR 3.1 FG injected through optiscaler.
Is the b580 compatible with ryzen 5 5600 non x??? Also can you benchmark heavily modded minecraft 1.12.2, Path of exile 2, Ready or not, tarkov, Team Fortress 2 and dark and darker??? I'm an expert on modded mc and can help you install a modpack.
Yes it is. As stated on the box of B580 to run a card you need at last 10th gen Intel or Ryzen 3000 series. Those are the oldest CPUs card will run with. Also you need to update bios on mobo if it doesnt support RBAR out of box.
Honestly just try random games at this point. Every benchmark out there right now is the same 20 games. Just avoid the same games everyone else is doing. Also test beamng drive.
Agreed, gives us more random games! I'm more curious as to how this card runs sims 1 than seeing any run-to-run variances in those 20-30 games everyone tests. They're generally not even good games as well!
The remastered version runs very well, already tried it a few times. DXVK is still superior but unlike the OG is actually optimized to use modern hardware and not just single core cpu's like the OG version. I guess crysis franchise is next.
"RT costs too much performance"
Doom on an intel card: hold my beer
Since everyone's putting in requests, how does Ark run on the new Arc card?
Can we see Crysis franchise on B580?
sure why not
As a A770 user should I feel inclined to get the B580? Or does it make more sense to wait for a B770? being said if it ever comes out.
IMO the first card that will bring big performance improvement to you is RX 7700 XT.
@@taiga_69 not big enough jump imo to justify the upgrade
if you have a good version of the a770, get the power mod that allows you to make it MUCH more powerful.
Stick with the A770, and maybe consider the Intel Arc Celestial GPUs. Heck, I personally would wait for the Intel Arc Druid GPUs. A770 should easily last you for the next 3-4 years.
The B580 is only 10-15% faster than the A770 in most games. In some, the difference is less than 10%. Not to mention that you would be downgrading your VRAM from 16GB to 12GB.
Wait for the B770 (if it exists) or the Celestial.
It was bound for them to all perform amazing because doom is very optimized and ID software knows what they are doing.
The video shows that the Intel card is adapted to the new API. It's a pity that game developers don't understand this
how does b580 perform in ue5 games?
Much slower then in non UE5 games. I hope driver updates Will fix that soon
@@rannarharmaste9857 They can only get you so far, UE5 is absolutely drowning all GPUs, even the 4090 can't keep up 60 fps at 4k, remember that this is the card that in normal games can max out a 180 Hz monitor at these settings.
"Peasant" cards like the 3060 are equally fucked. Though Arc in some games may have even greater slowdown.
@masterkamen371 i know. cant stand UE5 and how so many companies who had their own tech migrate over to it. id tech 7 FTW!
Better then Alchemist so far but I think they are still behind the competition but I can’t directly compare because I don’t have a 4060 or 7600
Nice bro ❤
Funnily enough, Doom 2016 and Doom Eternal don't look **any** worse than recent titles. These developers and CEOs don't care about their games AT ALL.
Graphics from several games made 5+ years ago still holds up pretty well.
@@vinilzord1 yep. Doom games are really well optimized and are one of the few games that use vulkan.
have you had any issues running OBS with this card at all? I want to build a rig for a friend who sometimes dabbles in streaming.
I tried the original Hexen II (from GOG) a few days back. Software rendering is entirely broken. As for 3D accelerated, with nGlide they've converted it from Glide to DX9 and Vulkan. In DX9 it runs worse than with Glide on my Vooodoo 1 and K6-2+ 450 PC, a rig maybe appropriate for 1999. Vulkan is just fine as you may guess.
I wish the other id games got nearly as much love as Doom gets.
Hexen isn't an id game. It was made by Raven Software. Btw all id developed games doom, quake and rage have all been updated and maintained for modern platforms. Quake 1 and 2 even got a remaster.
@@McTest-uo8bx Hexen is published by id and the games were built in the same engines as Doom and Quake, the games have been open sourced in the same fashion as the id games, I say it's fair to put them under the id Software umbrella.
I guess the Heretic and Hexen games aren't that popular cause people see the id logo, see that they are built in Doom and Quake's engines and expect the same kind of first person shooter experience, despite them being something completely separate
What about GZDoom on openGL? It has no FPS cap AFAIK
I could try it on my Arc A750 if you want. Never even thought to check, Doom is a blast at 5 fps on a 386SX, let alone with even more than the 35 fps limit in the original.
But it will most likely be a CPU bottleneck, so it should depend entirely on how fast that is.
I have an ARC A750 and it runs good, it struggles with nuts wad, but other source ports runs good nuts wad
Alright, tested, GZDoom is in fact capped at 500 FPS. Vulkan or OpenGL, it does not really matter, my setup has no issues hitting that limit at barely over idle power.
I'd say without the limit it would reach around 1000 fps, just as Quake II does.
@masterkamen371 Then my peasant PC can not even reach 500 fps in GZDoom.
@@Igor369 Don't feel so bad, I've recently put together an Athlon 64 X2 rig to run the Haiku OS. In SoftwareGL it barely runs Chocolate Doom at 15 fps. GZDoom refuses to launch in software mode, with OpenGL (through a blistering fast Radeon 7000 PCI from 2001) gets about 5 FPS.
Could we see beamNG drive?Appreciate the channel waiting for B750 ❤
Been waiting for this
@IntelArcTesting check b580 gpu with battlefield series 1-5 and 2042
can you do Sons of the forest, please?
Can you do some Cyberpunk 2077 path tracing benchmark at 1080p/1440p with the "Cyberpunk Ultra Plus - Engine Control Panel - Bug Fixes - 1.58x Faster Path Tracing - AMD and Nvidia" mod, and latest XeSS and FSR 3.1 FG injected through optiscaler.
Is the b580 compatible with ryzen 5 5600 non x??? Also can you benchmark heavily modded minecraft 1.12.2, Path of exile 2, Ready or not, tarkov, Team Fortress 2 and dark and darker??? I'm an expert on modded mc and can help you install a modpack.
Yes it is. As stated on the box of B580 to run a card you need at last 10th gen Intel or Ryzen 3000 series. Those are the oldest CPUs card will run with. Also you need to update bios on mobo if it doesnt support RBAR out of box.
@@novinovic298 thanks
Can you also do assassin's creed franchise?
Oh god what have I started… let’s hope no one asks for Final Fantasy franchise
there is no going back :P
@@IntelArcTesting PES and FIFA franchise on B580 pls 🤣
Honestly just try random games at this point. Every benchmark out there right now is the same 20 games. Just avoid the same games everyone else is doing. Also test beamng drive.
Agreed, gives us more random games!
I'm more curious as to how this card runs sims 1 than seeing any run-to-run variances in those 20-30 games everyone tests. They're generally not even good games as well!
@roqeyt3566 fr I can't even afford most of them otherwise I wouldn't be planning to buy this card in the first place 😭
@@BrickEater129 that's pretty much my take as well 😂 I just want the games I have now to run better
good perf
i can't wait to see if can it run crysis.
The remastered version runs very well, already tried it a few times. DXVK is still superior but unlike the OG is actually optimized to use modern hardware and not just single core cpu's like the OG version. I guess crysis franchise is next.
👍
try ark survival evolve and assended both games
@@islamrupak And don’t forget Ark survival descended!
Pls make non gaming benchmark like pugetbench, adobe, davinci etc, not everyone is gamer.
Pliss test on warzone 😢
Hell no
B580 can die if you run warzone on it. Cards get cancer from running Warzone and Fortnite.
@@novinovic298 hahahaha, It’s not that bro, as I play warzone with an intel arc a750, I want to see if there is a change to the b580
@@novinovic298 Can confirm, I was playing Roblox yesterday on my b580 and the fans just stopped spinning. Had to RMA it :(
MY 2080 cries everytime I boot up Warzone. VRAM limits are a pain in the ass 😂@@novinovic298