Transformational Theory and Jacob Collier

Neo-Riemannian transformational theory explores chord relations through geometric spatiality and triadic movement. In this video we'll see how it can be used to ask interesting questions to Jacob Colliers music.
Video exploring standard transformations: • Negative Harmony: Riem...
Piano music using this theory: • Morning in Seoul
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Ambient music playlist: open.spotify.com/playlist/4ei...
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[@MelkorNoir]

Wonderful video! Perhaps in future videos you could include musical examples so we can hear the theory in action. I know how much extra work that would involve, but I think a few, well chosen examples would go a long way in clarifying things for the viewer :) Thanks for the video, I'm going to check out your music now

[@sorthpiano]

Thanks for the feedback. Good idea with the music examples. I'll start working on a video with the transformational sound right away.

[@RemyLuciani]

@@sorthpiano Yes please. And the hexagonal in triangles are quite confusing, hard to understand the path of transformation with an example. :) Thank you for putting the work and sharing anyway, it's a whole art to make good videos! Good luck!

[@hugomazeo1479]

Well great but there was no music in it, i honestly understood nothing, music is about sound, there was no sound

[@Proghead88]

There was sound. Words. They mean something. Maybe watch it again and pause more often to think about it or experiment on the piano or guitar.

[@exyl_sounds]

​@@Proghead88 Your comment is bitter, esoteric, elitist, and gatekeepy. The video claims that it can improve your understanding of Jacob Collier's music, yet fails to do accomplish this for most. Only a VERY small group of people can comprehend the lingo, let alone hear what's being explained in their head.
I get that "dumbing it down" just so more people could follow along could dilute the information presented. However, providing sound examples would not be dumbing down at all. It would make this video less painful to follow along even for experienced musicians.

[@Proghead88]

@@exyl_sounds this type of video is intentionally not for most. You're sort of missing the point. Also, the descriptions says it asks interesting questions about his music, not that it claims to make his music easier to understand overall. It's just literally one idea out or many used as a comparison to other ideas. It is what it is. Nothing "elitist" or especially "bitter" about this.

[@exyl_sounds]

​@@Proghead88 No. The video is not "intentionally" incomprehensible. Many other comments above asked for sound examples, and the creator even responded to one such comment thanking them for the feedback. There is no incentive for this information to remain "not for most". Defending this position is esoteric and elitist by definition. Jacob Collier is in the video's title and his music fascinates tons of experienced musicians and non-musicians alike.

[@Proghead88]

@@exyl_sounds I didn't say it was intentionally incomprehensible. You did. Read what I actually said carefully. You either quote me exactly or you don't. I'm stating very basic facts about the presentation and purpose. No need to get so worked up for no reason. You don't have to like the format. Like I said, it isn't meant to be appealing to the average musician. Not everything on youtube HAS to be like that. Just because it is about Jacob Collier doesn't change that fact. Jacob talks about all types of ideas, both simple and complex so that's neither here nor there. If you find it too confusing, move on. Others will find it useful if it suits them. The video creator can receive feedback and still present relatively useful information regardless (relative to who cares about interesting peculiarities and relationships between patterns in music).

[@lawrencetaylor4101]

This is sort of out of my pay grade. But my music teacher says that I a
have become a music theory Geek, so I enjoyed just auditing the lesson.

[@needheartranken]

You know what advantage Jacob has is his immersion with notes and how it feels. He has perfect pitch and had time swimming with how harmonies sound like and notes with each other. I think he doesn't use math and this theory along his way up but is actually just listening to what he's done and just pouring out creativity with courage. Then, along the way as he matures, he can now explain what he's doing because yeah he'd been to music school and is actually a son of a music teacher at a University. Perfect pitch and immersion have its edge, plus his full courage in just putting chords out and not caring what people have to say. That's the problem with creativity. You can know all the math in the world but without courage in arranging, no results.

[@ijohnny.]

An excellent beginning for a complex subject. All things evolve or die, including ideas, and this erudite tutorial can easily evolve, which, curiously, will do so by being "dumbed-down" .

[@hazelschannel162]

What a nice video!

[@muzaarnold]

🤣 no idea how I got here but hope all this information will make sense in the future

[@darthriahuz1]

bro same

[@myhoodie.smells.like_weed3248]

@@darthriahuz1 save the video bro

[@normantran2011]

Please include sound next time

[@donovick]

Thank you.

[@tranquilityandpeaceforever7250]

Lumatone style

[@brylie_music]

It would be really helpful to hear the chords when describing music theory.